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But before we get
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let's begin
with an amazing fact.
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On August 24th, 1875,
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Matthew Webb slipped into
the water at Dover, England
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and 21 hours and 45 minutes
later touch the land in France,
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becoming the first person
to conquer the English Channel.
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Swimming the English Channel
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became one of the greatest
swimming challenges of the day.
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Since Webb's triumph,
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more than 470
people have been successful
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in swimming the English Channel,
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including a
12-year old boy in 1979
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and a 12-year old girl in 1983.
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The first woman to
swim the English Channel
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was 19-year old
American Gertrude Ederle.
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On the 6th of August, 1926,
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she crossed the English Channel
in 14 hours and 31 minutes.
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That's two hours
faster than the man's record,
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setting a woman's record that
stood for the next 35 years.
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Then came Alison Streeter,
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known as the
Queen of the Channel.
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She has swam the channel
more times than anyone else,
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43 crossings to date.
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Streeter first
swam the channel at 18
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and was the first
woman to swim the double,
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that is from England to
France and then back to England,
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and is the only woman ever
to have completed the three-way,
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that's from England
to France back to England
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and then to France again.
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But possibly the
greatest triumph of endurance
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is held by Benoit Lecomte who,
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with the aid of
two French sailors
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and a 40-foot sailboat,
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swam, believe it or not,
across the Atlantic ocean.
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On the 16th of July, 1998,
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he set out from Cape
Cod with eight wetsuits,
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a snorkel, and some flippers,
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navigated through the
40th and the 50th latitude,
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and protected by
electronic force field,
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Lecomte swam six
to eight hours a day,
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over more than 3000 nautical
miles of relentless waves.
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72 days later, on
the 28th of September,
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he swam ashore
exhausted but heroic in France.
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Now did you know
friends that the Bible teaches
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that at the end of time,
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Christians will
also need to have
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a high degree of endurance,
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not so much physical endurance
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but more
importantly spiritual endurance.
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You see, the Bible
tells us in Matthew 24:11,
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it says, "At the end of time,
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many false prophets will
rise up and deceive many.
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And because
lawlessness will abound,
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the love of many will grow cold.
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But he that endures to
the end shall be saved."
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To be a Christian in the
last days requires endurance.
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And the reason
for this endurance
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is because Revelation 12:17,
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talking of God's
people at the end of time,
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says, "And the dragon,"
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that's Satan,
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"was enraged with a woman."
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That's the church.
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"And he went to
make war with the rest
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or the remnant of her offspring
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who keep the commandments of God
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and have the
testimony of Jesus."
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So at the end of time,
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the devil is
enraged with the church,
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the true church,
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the remnant church,
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and he's making war with those
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who are keeping
God's commandments
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and have the testimony
and the faith of Jesus.
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Well, friends, we
wanna be amongst those
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that have spiritual
endurance in the last days.
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How can we now prepare
for what is yet to come?
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Well, one of the
ways that we prepare
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is by filling our
minds with the Word of God.
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The Word of God is a sure
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And as I
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my name is Jean Ross.
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Pastor Doug is out this evening,
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Thank you for being a part
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Our first caller
this evening is Anthony
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and he's
listening from New York.
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Anthony, welcome to the program.
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You're on Bible Answers Live.
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- [Anthony] Yes.
Hello, Pastor Ross.
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Can you hear me okay?
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- We can, yes.
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- [Anthony] Okay, yes.
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I was told that I had a
little bit of a bad connection,
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but my question...
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Well, let me
just briefly explain.
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I think it was last week.
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After church I got
into a conversation
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with a gentleman
that was there visiting.
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And he just had some
questions and also some ideas
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that differed
widely from what I believe.
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But I've been studying
to make sure I understand
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different
doctrines that I believe.
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So the topic about the
divinity of Christ came up
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and I thought I
was well prepared.
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I went through
Hebrews 1 and John 1:1,
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and things like that.
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And then I used Isaiah 9:6.
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And that's the
basis of my question.
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And it says right here.
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Sorry, I had it up.
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"For unto us the child is born,
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unto us the son is given,
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and the government
shall be upon his shoulder
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and his name shall be
called wonderful counselor,
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the mighty God."
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And I kinda
paused there for emphasis
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to show that this was
talking about Jesus Christ,
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the prophecy of Christ,
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and He's called mighty God.
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And he said, "Ah, but
what about the next part
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where it says the
everlasting Father?"
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And I said, "Okay, yeah.
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So yeah, He's
one with the Father."
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Well, he's like, "Well,
that kind of defeats your point
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where you say that the
Father, the Son, Jesus Christ,
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and the Holy Spirit,
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they're three separate beings.
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By him calling
the Son, the Father,
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that defeats your point."
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And so he thinks that it's
more symbolic rather than...
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That this prophecy is symbolic
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rather than proving
the divinity of Christ.
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So I guess my question is,
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why does this prophecy
call Jesus Christ, the Son?
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Why does it also call
Him the everlasting Father?
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- Okay. Well,
very good question.
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Yes, the verse
you're talking about,
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for those who are
maybe driving in their car,
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Isaiah 9:6,
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and many recognize this
as a messianic prophecy.
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It's a reference
to the coming Messiah.
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Several things.
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First of all, it
does mention here
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that Jesus is
the Prince of Peace.
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And we know that when
Christ came to the earth,
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it was through His
sacrifice that He made peace
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between the
sinner and the Father.
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Between God and man,
He is the intercessor.
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So, we know that refers to Him.
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He is also referred to
as the Wonderful Counselor,
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the Mighty God.
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So, there's a reference
to Christ being divine.
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But the phrase
everlasting Father,
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why is that phrase used?
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Well, because especially before
the incarnation of Christ,
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along with the Father is
He is the source of life.
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John 1:1, "In the
beginning was the Word
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and the Word was with God.
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All things were made by Him
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and without Him was not
anything made that was made."
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So Jesus is
actively involved in creation
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and seeing that He's
actively involved in creation,
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He is the
Father of all creation.
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And so when it's
referring to Christ
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as the Everlasting Father,
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not only was the Father,
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the Heavenly Father
that we think of today
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involved in creation,
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but Christ was also involved
in the creation of earth.
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And then of course,
when Jesus came to the earth
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and He was born
here on this earth,
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He recognized that His
Father in heaven was God.
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And of course, we
have the Holy Spirit
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and Jesus is baptized.
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You have the Father in heaven,
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you have the Holy
Spirit coming upon Him.
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Jesus is in the
water being baptized.
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Christ prayed to His Father
in heaven as we need to pray.
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But the fact that
He's also referred to
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as the Heavenly Father indicates
that He is the Creator,
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He's the source of life.
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And that of course is
the same with God the Father
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that we think
of today in heaven.
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Does that help Anthony?
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- [Anthony] That does help.
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That does make sense.
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I'll wait 'til next week.
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I know I can
only ask one question.
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But someone preached a sermon
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where they proved
that Jesus was divine,
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but they said that the Holy
Spirit is not a separate person.
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You did help with
the one about Christ.
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- Yeah, that's a good question.
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Ask it next week when
we have a little more time
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'cause that is an important one,
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or what role does the Holy
Spirit have in the Godhead?
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All right. Well, thank
you for your call, Anthony.
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You know, we do have a book
that talks a little bit more
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about the Father,
Son, and the Holy Spirit,
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the Godhead or the Trinity,
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and the book is called
"The Trinity: Is it Biblical?"
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and we'll be happy
to sent this to anyone
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who calls and asks.
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Again, the number that you
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You can ask for the book,
"The Trinity: Is it Biblical?".
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What does the Bible say?
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By God the father, the
Son, and the Holy Spirit.
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We'll be happy to send it to
anyone here in North America.
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Next caller that we have is
Britney listening in California.
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Britney, welcome to the program.
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- [Britney] Hey.
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- Hi, and your question tonight.
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- [Britney] Yes.
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My question is, what does
the Bible say about flowers?
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- What does the
Bible say about flowers?
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Now, you're
thinking just in general
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or something
specific about flowers?
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- [Britney] Well, I'm
talking about in general.
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- Okay.
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Well there are references
to flowers in the Bible.
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Bible speaks about
God creating a garden
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called the Garden of Eden
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and all kinds of plants
were there in the garden.
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There were fruit trees.
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There were flowers,
I'm sure, to beautify.
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So flowers is
something that God created.
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But in the prophetic sense,
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here's something
that you might not know.
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A flower is actually used
as a title or a name for Jesus,
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and you'll find this
in Song of Solomon 2:1
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and the flower being
referred to there is a rose
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and it refers to
the Rose of Sharon.
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In here Jesus is being described
as this Rose of Sharon.
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So actually, a flower
is used in a symbolic sense
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in the Bible with
the reference to Jesus.
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So yes, flowers are used
and spoken of in the Bible.
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Next caller that we have
is listening from Colorado.
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We've got...
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Let's see, Connor
listening from Colorado.
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Connor, welcome to the program.
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You're on the air.
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- [Connor] Hello.
How are you, Pastor Ross?
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- I'm doing well.
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Hope you're doing well, too.
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- [Connor] Thank
you. I appreciate it.
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My question is for
a biblical baptism,
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does that have to be
done by a pastor or minister?
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Or can that be done by someone
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with a good
knowledge of the Word?
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- Well, usually
when it comes to baptism,
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baptism is a public
profession of our decision
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to follow Jesus.
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And when we gonna
make a public profession,
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we wanna do so in the
company of friends and family
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but also the one leading out,
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and that needs to be somebody
that's recognized as a leader.
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For example, if
two people get married,
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they go to somebody who is
licensed to perform weddings,
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whether that be a pastor
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or maybe it is a
justice of the peace,
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but it is somebody that is
recognized as an authority.
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When we make a public
profession of our faith
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and we're baptized
following Christ's example,
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we wanna do so in the
presence of family and friends,
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but also we wanna have
someone that is recognized
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as a spiritual leader.
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We wanna have a
pastor in the church.
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Of course, we
wanna have a pastor
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that follows the
Bible and Bible teaching
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because I think there are
many different ideas out there
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as to what the Bible says.
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So, we wanna make sure
that we're following a church
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and we're
participating with someone
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who understands the Bible.
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But yes, if we can,
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it's appropriate to
have a pastor lead out
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in the baptismal service.
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It's a very
special and sacred event.
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Okay.
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- [Connor] So would that pertain
to like a rebaptism, too?
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Or is that
probably the same answer?
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- Well, in rebaptism, yes.
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I think you'd also want somebody
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because that's a reaffirmation
of your faith in Christ.
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In some cases, if a
pastor is not available,
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the church elder might
serve in that capacity.
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Usually though, it's in
communication with the pastor.
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The pastor knows the
elder and maybe he's traveling
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or maybe the church
does not have a pastor
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that is permissible.
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Usually, there is some
communication that takes place
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between the elder of the church
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and maybe the conference that
is associated with the church.
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But usually, you wanna
have somebody in a leadership,
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a spiritual leadership role,
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lead out in the
baptismal service.
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Somebody that will
meet the biblical criteria
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that you find
for what an elder is.
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- [Connor] Okay, thank you.
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I appreciate your help.
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- All right. Thanks
for your call, Connor.
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You know, we do have a
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We've got Jim listening
from looks like Indiana.
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Jim, welcome to the program.
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- [Jim] Yeah, the
question I have is
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in Revelation 17:10-12.
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- Yes. - What are
they talking about?
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The seven kings,
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are those political or
are they really just...
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- Okay, great question.
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Let me give a
little background to those
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who might not be
familiar with Revelation 17.
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In Revelation 17,
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John in vision sees a woman
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and she is sitting on
a scarlet colored beast
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and the beast has
seven heads and 10 horns.
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Now in Bible prophecy,
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a woman represents a church
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and a beast
represents a political power.
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So here you have a church,
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a religious power,
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that is
controlling a political power.
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So really what we have
is a description of a church
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and state where the
state is enforcing the decrees
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or the teachings of the church.
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And it's really a description
of the medieval church
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or the Roman Catholic church,
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especially during the dark ages,
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a people supremacy
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where the papacy was controlling
the nations of Europe.
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There is a revival of
that at the end of time
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if you keep reading in
Revelation 17, Revelation 13.
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But the angel begins to
identify these different symbols
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that we find here in Revelation.
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And you'll find
in Revelation 17:9,
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it says, "Here is
the mind that is wisdom.
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The seven heads,"
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that's the seven
heads of the beast,
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"are seven mountains
on which the woman sits."
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So here we have a church
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that is located on seven
mountains or seven Hills.
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Well, of course, a
church that is well known
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to be situated
amongst seven hills
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or mountains is
the church of Rome
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'cause Rome is known to
be the city of seven hills.
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But then it also
represents something else.
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And in verse 10, it says,
"There are also seven Kings.
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Five have fallen,
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one is, and one is not yet come.
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And when he comes, he
must continue a short time."
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So these kings,
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the king represents a kingdom.
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These seven kingdoms
refer to seven political powers
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or nations that'll
persecute God's people,
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and it began way back
in Old Testament times
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and will continue right
up 'til the very end of time
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just before Jesus comes.
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So the five principal
nations that war against Israel
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after they had entered
into the promised land,
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you have the nation of
Assyria or the Assyrians
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that conquered the
10 tribes or the north.
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You have the nation of Babylon.
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Then you have Medo/Persia,
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you have Greece,
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and you have Rome.
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So during the 1260
years of papal supremacy,
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or we call that the dark ages,
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those five powers or political
powers had already fallen.
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The one that is
refers to the papacy
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during its 1260 year
rule 'cause it says one is,
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and that's the description
that we find in Revelation 17.
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And then it says
one is yet to come.
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And when he comes, he
must continue a short space.
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Well, in Revelation 13,
you discover this two beasts.
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The second
beast of Revelation 13
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is actually the United States.
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And according to Revelation 13,
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a time will come when
the United States will play
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a leading role in
enforcing the mark of the beast
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and those who refuse to go along
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with these religious
laws will face persecution.
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They won't be
able to buy and sell.
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So the beast that is yet to come
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or the political
power that is yet to come
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in a persecuting
role is a reference there
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to the United States.
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And then it says the
eighth is the beast as well.
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And that again,
refers to the papacy.
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So those are the seven kings.
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Five have fallen,
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one is, one is yet to come.
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Those are the key players
that we find in Bible history
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and even right up
'til the end of time.
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Does that help, Jim?
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- [Jim] Oh yeah,
that cleared it right up.
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- All right.
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Good question.
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Thank you for calling.
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Appreciate it.
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All right, next
caller that we have.
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Lolita is listening in Nevada.
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Lolita, welcome to the program.
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- [Lolita] Hi.
Thank you, Pastor Ross.
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- Yes.
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- [Lolita] Good
to hear your voice.
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- Thank you.
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- [Lolita] My question
has to do with Jeremiah 31:15
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and it mentioned Rachel
weeping for her children,
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refusing to be comforted
for her children are gone.
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Could you explain that for me?
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I've always wondered
why Rachel is mentioned
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and exactly what
that verse refers to.
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- Okay, very good question.
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It's interesting.
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This verse that we find
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in Jeremiah 31:15
is actually a prophecy
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because it's
referred to in Matthew 2:18.
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And when it's
referred to in Matthew 2:18,
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it's in the context of
the decree that Herod made
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that all the little
baby boys in Bethlehem
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and in that area
was to be put to death.
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And after
describing this in Matthew 2,
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Matthew actually
quotes Jeremiah 31:15
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and he says what
happened with Herod,
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killing the baby boys,
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was an actual
fulfillment of this prophecy.
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So the verse 15 says,
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"A voice was heard in Ramah,
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lamentation and bitter weeping,
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Rachel weeping
for her children."
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Rachel there is just
a reference to Israel
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and to the mothers of
Israel in particular there.
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"Refusing to be
comforted for her children
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because they are no more."
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So her children,
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it's referring to something
happening to her children,
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but then the promise comes
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if you read a
little bit further on it.
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It says, "But they shall return
from the land of the enemy."
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So, there is a promise.
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That's the next verse.
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It says they shall return
from the land of the enemy.
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There's a promise
of a resurrection.
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And that was the
hope that was given
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to those mothers that
suffered that terrible loss
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of having their baby
boys snatch from their arms
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and killed by
Herod in fear of a king
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that would rival his throne.
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So, that's Jeremiah 31:15.
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Does that help, Lolita?
- Yes, that helped greatly.
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Thank you very much.
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Uh-huh, that helps a lot.
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Thank you.
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- All right,
the cross references
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I mentioned
there is Matthew 2:18
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if you wanna look up that
verse and read that as well.
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We got Iwan
listening from New York.
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Iwan, welcome to the program.
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- [Iwan] Good
evening, Pastor Ross.
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- Hi.
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- [Iwan] My question is,
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what was going through the
mind of Satan during the flood?
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Was he scared?
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Was he angry?
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Or was he laughing maniacally?
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- Well, you know,
we don't know for sure
00:21:33.99\00:21:36.09
what was going on in the
mind of Lucifer during the flood
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or Satan during the flood.
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But I think one
thing we realized is that
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Satan had never seen
anything like this before.
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Up until that point,
the earth was beautiful.
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Even after Adam and Eve sinned
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and they were driven
from the Garden of Eden,
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the earth was still a paradise.
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And Adam and Eve and
their descendants lived
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almost 2000 years
before the flood in the world
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and then until
wickedness got so bad.
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The Bible says every
imagination of the heart
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was just evil continually.
00:22:05.42\00:22:07.62
And God said, "My Spirit shall
not always strive with man.
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His days shall be a 120 years."
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And so Noah was
called to build the ark.
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The devil is obviously watching
as the ark is being built
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and the animals
miraculously enter into the ark.
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Noah and his
family go into the arc.
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The door in the ark is closed
00:22:21.60\00:22:23.24
and then the
rain begins to come.
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And it's pretty tumultuous
00:22:25.71\00:22:27.58
because it talks
about the fountains
00:22:27.58\00:22:29.28
of the great deep
breaking open during that time.
00:22:29.28\00:22:32.71
So not only is the rain falling
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and it hadn't
rained up to that point,
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but you have all this
water coming down from the sky.
00:22:36.08\00:22:38.75
You also have
the earth opening up
00:22:38.75\00:22:40.82
and a massive
amounts of water spewing up
00:22:41.99\00:22:44.89
through the crust of the
earth and flooding the land.
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And you have volcanic activity
00:22:48.43\00:22:50.10
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earth is commotion.
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The mountains are moving
and continents are moving.
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It was just something we
can't even begin to imagine.
00:22:55.10\00:22:59.41
And I'm sure even
the devil and his angels
00:22:59.41\00:23:01.08
which were on the
earth witnessed all of this.
00:23:01.08\00:23:02.81
I don't know.
00:23:02.81\00:23:04.15
Maybe they did
experience to some degree
00:23:04.15\00:23:05.41
some fear or
amazement at the power
00:23:05.41\00:23:08.08
that was
demonstrated there in the flood.
00:23:08.08\00:23:10.85
And of course, God
protected Noah and his family.
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That was the type of
what's gonna ultimately happen
00:23:14.29\00:23:17.23
to the devil and his angels
at the end of the 1000 years.
00:23:17.23\00:23:20.60
Just like Noah and his family
that were protected in the ark
00:23:20.60\00:23:23.26
from the waters of the
flood which purified the earth,
00:23:23.26\00:23:26.37
so there's going to
be at the end of time,
00:23:26.37\00:23:28.40
a sea of fire that's
gonna purify the earth
00:23:28.40\00:23:32.07
and you read about
this in Revelation 20.
00:23:32.07\00:23:34.74
And this fire that
is referred to as hell
00:23:34.74\00:23:37.18
or the lake of fire,
00:23:37.18\00:23:38.68
it's gonna purify the earth.
00:23:38.68\00:23:40.25
But just as Noah and his
family was safe in the ark,
00:23:40.25\00:23:42.58
so the redeemed or
the saved will be safe
00:23:42.58\00:23:45.22
inside the new Jerusalem.
00:23:45.22\00:23:47.36
According to Revelation 21,
00:23:47.36\00:23:49.06
the new Jerusalem comes
down from God out of heaven
00:23:49.06\00:23:51.33
at the end of
the thousand years.
00:23:51.33\00:23:53.09
The wicked are resurrected
00:23:53.09\00:23:54.30
for the great
white throne judgment,
00:23:54.30\00:23:56.46
and then they mount their
attack upon the new Jerusalem
00:23:56.46\00:23:58.50
and fire comes and devours them.
00:23:58.50\00:24:00.94
But just as the earth
was purified the first time
00:24:00.94\00:24:03.24
with water,
00:24:03.24\00:24:04.47
it will be purified
the second time with fire
00:24:04.47\00:24:07.01
and then God
creates a new heavens
00:24:07.01\00:24:09.01
and a new earth
wherein dwells righteousness.
00:24:09.01\00:24:11.68
Now the devil made it
through the first purifying,
00:24:11.68\00:24:13.78
that of water,
00:24:13.78\00:24:14.95
but we know the
devil's not gonna make it
00:24:14.95\00:24:16.35
through the second purifying,
00:24:16.35\00:24:17.75
that of fire,
00:24:17.75\00:24:19.22
because the Bible says the
devil and his angels were cast
00:24:19.22\00:24:21.69
into the lake of fire
and they were destroyed.
00:24:21.69\00:24:24.96
So that's kind
of a little overview
00:24:24.96\00:24:26.73
if you look at the
different cleansing
00:24:28.13\00:24:29.60
and the symbols behind the
flood and what it represents.
00:24:29.60\00:24:32.37
Does that help
Iwan a little bit?
00:24:32.37\00:24:34.34
- [Iwan] Yeah, it
helped a little bit.
00:24:36.44\00:24:37.97
- Yeah, we don't know
what was in the mind of Satan,
00:24:37.97\00:24:39.94
but we can just imagine
00:24:39.94\00:24:41.34
that it was a pretty
fearful experience for him.
00:24:41.34\00:24:45.38
- [Iwan] Thank you.
00:24:45.38\00:24:46.82
- All right. Well,
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France from California.
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France, welcome to the program.
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- [France] Good evening, Pastor.
00:30:59.42\00:31:00.76
- Good evening. And
your Bible question?
00:31:00.76\00:31:02.49
- [France] Yes.
00:31:03.83\00:31:04.76
So I just wanted you to help me
00:31:04.76\00:31:07.20
get some
clarification on Daniel,
00:31:07.20\00:31:10.50
this two time prophecy
at the end of Daniel 12.
00:31:10.50\00:31:13.77
- [Pastor Ross] Okay.
00:31:13.77\00:31:15.10
- [France] And it
seems like I try to see
00:31:15.10\00:31:17.57
how you can situate
them in prophetic time.
00:31:17.57\00:31:20.84
So, if you can kind of
give me a little understanding
00:31:20.84\00:31:23.91
of those two time
prophecies, please.
00:31:23.91\00:31:25.91
- Sure, Revelation 12
is an interesting chapter.
00:31:25.91\00:31:28.85
There's a lot of details,
00:31:28.85\00:31:29.95
but there are
different time periods.
00:31:29.95\00:31:31.82
It's actually three time
periods that we read about.
00:31:31.82\00:31:34.42
There's the 1260,
the 1290, and the 1335.
00:31:34.42\00:31:38.23
And here we can
find it in Daniel 12:11.
00:31:38.23\00:31:41.36
I'm just gonna read this first.
00:31:41.36\00:31:42.50
It says, "And at that time
00:31:42.50\00:31:43.87
when the daily
sacrifice is taken away
00:31:43.87\00:31:46.40
and the abomination
of desolation is set up,
00:31:46.40\00:31:48.57
there shall be 1290 days."
00:31:48.57\00:31:51.64
Then it says,
"Blessed is he say that waits
00:31:51.64\00:31:53.44
and comes to the 1335 days."
00:31:53.44\00:31:57.51
And then a little
earlier, we read about the 1335.
00:31:57.51\00:32:00.78
So what are these
different time periods?
00:32:00.78\00:32:02.32
More specifically,
the 1290 and the 1260.
00:32:02.32\00:32:06.86
The 1260,
00:32:06.86\00:32:08.39
remember one prophetic days
is equal to one literal year
00:32:08.39\00:32:10.43
in Bible prophecy.
00:32:10.43\00:32:11.89
So the 1260 year time
period that we read about
00:32:11.89\00:32:15.43
in both Daniel and Revelation
00:32:15.43\00:32:17.40
is the time period of papal
supremacy from 538 until 1798.
00:32:17.40\00:32:22.40
So in 538, we have
the papacy rising to,
00:32:24.74\00:32:27.78
not only religious
power but more importantly,
00:32:27.78\00:32:30.28
political power and
sort of takes the throne
00:32:30.28\00:32:34.22
of the west and Roman empire.
00:32:34.22\00:32:36.45
It rules 'til 1798
where the papal power received
00:32:36.45\00:32:41.46
what's called the deadly wound
00:32:42.32\00:32:43.83
where Napoleon's general,
Berthier, marched into Rome,
00:32:43.83\00:32:45.76
proclaimed the political
rule of the papacy at an end.
00:32:45.76\00:32:48.66
The Pope was taken prisoner.
00:32:48.66\00:32:50.00
So that's the
1260 year time period.
00:32:50.00\00:32:52.50
The 1290 year time
period covers roughly
00:32:52.50\00:32:55.70
the same time period,
00:32:55.70\00:32:56.87
but it begins a little earlier.
00:32:56.87\00:32:58.61
It actually begins in 508,
00:32:58.61\00:33:00.88
is the starting
point of that time period.
00:33:00.88\00:33:03.55
And what's significant about
that date is that one of the...
00:33:03.55\00:33:06.28
Actually, yeah.
00:33:06.28\00:33:07.52
What's
significant about that date
00:33:07.52\00:33:08.45
is one of the political powers
00:33:08.45\00:33:10.89
that was key in coming on board
00:33:10.89\00:33:14.02
to give the papacy
its authority was France.
00:33:14.02\00:33:17.13
And in 508, you have
the conversion of Clovis,
00:33:17.13\00:33:20.03
King of the Franks,
00:33:20.03\00:33:21.56
that opened up the way for
full papal supremacy in 538.
00:33:21.56\00:33:26.37
So, the 1290s
referring to that time period.
00:33:26.37\00:33:29.54
And then the 1335,
00:33:29.54\00:33:31.77
starting in 508,
00:33:31.77\00:33:33.27
you go forward 1335 and
you come to the date 1843.
00:33:33.27\00:33:38.08
And what's significant
about the 1843 is the beginning
00:33:38.08\00:33:41.32
of the proclamation
of the time of the end
00:33:41.32\00:33:44.45
and the judgment
message that you read about
00:33:44.45\00:33:46.39
in Revelation 14.
00:33:46.39\00:33:48.29
So, that's just a
little bit of an overview
00:33:48.29\00:33:50.23
of those three time
periods that we find
00:33:50.23\00:33:52.89
in the book of Daniel.
00:33:52.89\00:33:54.00
Does that help a little?
00:33:55.26\00:33:57.20
- [France] Yes.
Definitely, Pastor.
00:33:57.20\00:33:58.27
Thank you very much.
00:33:58.27\00:33:59.47
- All right,
thanks for your call.
00:33:59.47\00:34:00.47
We're gonna go to Jerry in...
00:34:00.47\00:34:02.37
Let's see,
actually Bob in New Jersey.
00:34:02.37\00:34:04.01
Bob, welcome to the program.
00:34:04.01\00:34:05.41
- [Bob] My question is this.
00:34:06.78\00:34:08.21
I have a friend
who's next door to me,
00:34:08.21\00:34:10.08
a Christian guy.
00:34:10.08\00:34:11.41
He takes communion
every day by himself.
00:34:14.38\00:34:17.65
What he usually does is that
he says you can use anything,
00:34:19.09\00:34:21.49
water, water
bread, stuff like that.
00:34:21.49\00:34:25.19
But what really
gets me about is the fact
00:34:25.19\00:34:28.66
that I feel like you
were supposed to do it
00:34:28.66\00:34:30.63
under the auspices
of a pastor or an elder
00:34:30.63\00:34:35.64
or somebody to that effect.
00:34:37.11\00:34:39.27
But he said to me that you
could do your own communion
00:34:40.71\00:34:44.25
because the Bible says
we are kings and priests.
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So, what is the
truth behind this?
00:34:50.65\00:34:54.29
- Okay. Good question, Bob.
00:34:54.29\00:34:55.62
I'm gonna put you on mute there,
00:34:55.62\00:34:57.59
if you can still hear me,
00:34:57.59\00:34:59.03
just because we had a
little bit of feedback there
00:34:59.03\00:35:00.53
in the background.
00:35:00.53\00:35:01.90
Is it possible to take
communion by yourself at home?
00:35:01.90\00:35:04.40
No.
00:35:05.37\00:35:06.30
You can eat by yourself at home
00:35:06.30\00:35:07.54
and you can ask God's
blessing upon your food.
00:35:07.54\00:35:09.50
There's no doubt about that.
00:35:09.50\00:35:10.64
That's good.
00:35:10.64\00:35:11.71
But when it comes to communion,
00:35:11.71\00:35:13.17
communion is unique.
00:35:13.17\00:35:14.71
It is a group of believers
that are gathered together
00:35:14.71\00:35:17.81
in a worship format
00:35:17.81\00:35:20.18
and they are
together corporately
00:35:20.18\00:35:23.08
recognizing the
sacrifice of Jesus
00:35:23.08\00:35:25.49
through the eating of the bread
00:35:25.49\00:35:27.59
and the drinking
of the grape juice.
00:35:27.59\00:35:29.36
Now, these symbols are important
when it comes to communion.
00:35:29.36\00:35:32.73
Jesus refers to
Himself as the bread of life.
00:35:32.73\00:35:35.83
And on one occasion, Jesus said,
00:35:35.83\00:35:37.13
"Whoever eats My
flesh and drinks My blood
00:35:37.13\00:35:39.80
will I have life in themselves."
00:35:39.80\00:35:41.20
And the people
were offended by this.
00:35:41.20\00:35:43.14
And they said, "What
do You mean eat Your flesh
00:35:43.14\00:35:44.54
and drink Your blood?"
00:35:44.54\00:35:45.87
Jesus said to them,
"The words I speak unto you,
00:35:45.87\00:35:48.41
they are Spirit
and they are life."
00:35:48.41\00:35:49.98
So when we partake of
the bread in communion,
00:35:49.98\00:35:53.82
we're recognizing or
acknowledging that Christ died
00:35:53.82\00:35:57.82
for us. When we
drink the grape juice,
00:35:57.82\00:35:59.72
we are acknowledging
that He spilled His blood
00:35:59.72\00:36:02.39
which makes atonement for
our sins and we are forgiven.
00:36:02.39\00:36:06.06
Now, when it comes to the
bread and the grape juice,
00:36:06.06\00:36:08.13
the symbols are important.
00:36:08.13\00:36:09.86
Leaven in the Bible or
yeast as referred to today
00:36:09.86\00:36:13.27
are symbolized sin in the Bible.
00:36:14.27\00:36:16.71
And so the bread that was used
00:36:16.71\00:36:18.57
both in the
sanctuary in the old Testament
00:36:18.57\00:36:20.58
and also the bread that's used
00:36:20.58\00:36:22.18
for communion needs
to be unleavened bread.
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Meaning, that
it's free of yeast.
00:36:24.78\00:36:26.85
And when it comes to the juice,
00:36:26.85\00:36:28.72
the grape juice,
00:36:28.72\00:36:29.55
it also needs to be pure
00:36:29.55\00:36:30.85
because it's
symbol of Christ's blood.
00:36:30.85\00:36:33.29
Yeast is used in
the fermenting process.
00:36:33.29\00:36:35.69
So, it's not an
alcoholic beverage.
00:36:35.69\00:36:37.76
It needs to be fresh grape
juice as a symbol of Christ,
00:36:37.76\00:36:41.40
atoning blood that was shed.
00:36:41.40\00:36:43.40
The church is
described as the body of Christ.
00:36:43.40\00:36:45.43
And when we gather
together corporately to worship
00:36:45.43\00:36:48.30
and we partake of communion,
00:36:48.30\00:36:50.11
we together are acknowledging
that Jesus has died for us
00:36:50.11\00:36:54.24
and we believe in Him.
00:36:54.24\00:36:55.44
So communion is not
one of those ceremonies
00:36:55.44\00:36:58.08
that we are to
try and do on our own,
00:36:58.08\00:37:00.45
but we wanna do it as a church,
00:37:00.45\00:37:02.42
a group of believers.
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Does that help, Bob?
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- [Bob] Well, he
says that the Bible says
00:37:08.26\00:37:10.16
that we're kings and priests.
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Where does that fit in?
00:37:12.26\00:37:13.19
I mean...
00:37:13.19\00:37:14.00
- Yes, we are.
00:37:14.00\00:37:14.93
Spiritually, we are kings
00:37:14.93\00:37:16.46
because Christ
is our older brother
00:37:16.46\00:37:18.70
and we are to rule over
sin and we can be victorious.
00:37:18.70\00:37:23.41
Revelation says he who overcomes
shall inherit all things.
00:37:23.41\00:37:27.44
And we are
priests in the sense of
00:37:27.44\00:37:29.31
we are sharing the
gospel with others.
00:37:29.31\00:37:31.28
So, we can take the gospel
00:37:31.28\00:37:32.58
and we can share
it to somebody else.
00:37:32.58\00:37:33.78
If they respond to the gospel,
00:37:33.78\00:37:35.55
well, they're also saved.
00:37:35.55\00:37:36.99
But it's got nothing
to do with communion.
00:37:36.99\00:37:39.49
The idea that only a priest
00:37:39.49\00:37:40.92
can offer
communion isn't biblical.
00:37:40.92\00:37:43.69
Matter of fact,
in the New Testament,
00:37:43.69\00:37:45.76
you don't read
about the priesthood.
00:37:45.76\00:37:47.23
It talks about
leaders in the church.
00:37:47.23\00:37:48.96
You've got pastors
and you've got elders
00:37:48.96\00:37:50.67
and you have people of
different responsibility,
00:37:50.67\00:37:53.13
but that's not what
the verse is referring to
00:37:53.13\00:37:55.07
when it says we
are kings and priests.
00:37:55.07\00:37:56.67
It's not talking
about us doing communion
00:37:56.67\00:37:58.74
on our own at home.
00:37:58.74\00:38:00.14
That's a
misunderstanding of the verse.
00:38:00.14\00:38:01.54
- [Bob] Thank you
very much, Pastor.
00:38:02.74\00:38:04.01
- All right.
Thanks for your call, Bob.
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Next caller that we have is...
00:38:05.48\00:38:07.08
Let's see, Jerry is
listening in Oregon.
00:38:07.08\00:38:08.88
Jerry, welcome to the program.
00:38:08.88\00:38:10.39
- [Jerry] Good
evening, Pastor Ross.
00:38:11.45\00:38:13.46
My question pertains to works.
00:38:13.46\00:38:16.69
- Okay.
00:38:16.69\00:38:17.89
- [Jerry] Now,
it's a core belief
00:38:17.89\00:38:19.03
amongst all
Christian denominations
00:38:19.03\00:38:21.40
that salvation is a
gift that cannot be earned.
00:38:21.40\00:38:26.33
But there are some scriptures,
00:38:26.33\00:38:28.34
and I know that
you're aware of them
00:38:28.34\00:38:30.87
but then I'll
summarize them for the audience.
00:38:30.87\00:38:33.17
Matthew 25 where Jesus talks
about the goats and the sheep.
00:38:35.01\00:38:40.02
The sheep are the people
who fed, gave drink, shelter,
00:38:41.45\00:38:45.35
and satisfied the needs
of those people in need.
00:38:47.92\00:38:52.93
And the goats are the
ones who didn't do that.
00:38:54.30\00:38:57.97
The goats are on His left side.
00:38:57.97\00:39:01.04
Then He says in there,
00:39:01.04\00:39:03.97
then He will say
to those on His left,
00:39:03.97\00:39:05.97
the goats, those who
didn't do the good deeds,
00:39:05.97\00:39:08.01
"Depart from Me,
you who are cursed,
00:39:08.01\00:39:10.85
into the eternal fire prepared
00:39:10.85\00:39:12.61
for the devil and the angels.
00:39:12.61\00:39:14.12
For I was hungry, you
gave Me nothing to eat,"
00:39:14.12\00:39:17.19
et cetera. - Sure.
00:39:17.19\00:39:18.29
- [Jerry] And so on.
00:39:18.29\00:39:19.45
And then in Revelation 20,
00:39:19.45\00:39:23.02
it says towards, let me see,
00:39:23.02\00:39:26.59
verse 12 or so or 13,
00:39:26.59\00:39:31.23
"The dead were judged
according to what they had done
00:39:33.27\00:39:36.77
as recorded in the books.
00:39:36.77\00:39:38.84
The sea gave up the
dead that were in it
00:39:40.04\00:39:42.58
and death and Hades gave
up the dead that were in them
00:39:42.58\00:39:45.28
and each person was judged
according to what they had done.
00:39:45.28\00:39:49.55
Then death and Hades were
thrown into the lake of fire.
00:39:50.95\00:39:53.66
The lake of fire
is the second death.
00:39:53.66\00:39:55.72
Anyone whose name
was not found written
00:39:55.72\00:39:59.16
in the book of life was
thrown into the lake of fire.
00:39:59.16\00:40:02.10
So I would infer from that,
00:40:02.10\00:40:04.40
the saved are in
the book of life,
00:40:04.40\00:40:06.40
that they're being
judged by their works.
00:40:06.40\00:40:08.60
- Okay. Great question.
00:40:08.60\00:40:10.14
Yeah, let me see if I can
shed a little bit of light
00:40:10.14\00:40:11.77
on that.
00:40:11.77\00:40:12.94
So, we're saved by faith.
00:40:12.94\00:40:14.18
We're actually saved
by grace through faith.
00:40:14.18\00:40:16.78
How do we obtain the grace?
00:40:16.78\00:40:17.81
It's through faith.
00:40:17.81\00:40:19.01
Not of works as
Paul says in Romans,
00:40:19.01\00:40:21.12
unless we shall be judged.
00:40:21.12\00:40:22.92
But the kind of faith that
saves us is a faith that works.
00:40:22.92\00:40:27.79
So, if we claim to have faith
but our faith is not working,
00:40:27.79\00:40:30.93
meaning, our
lives are not changing,
00:40:30.93\00:40:33.76
then that means
the kind of faith
00:40:33.76\00:40:35.46
that we have is a
counterfeit faith.
00:40:35.46\00:40:38.27
A genuine faith will
be revealed in what we do.
00:40:38.27\00:40:42.67
That's why when it
comes to the judgment,
00:40:42.67\00:40:44.37
God could
actually look at our works
00:40:44.37\00:40:46.74
and our works will tell
00:40:46.74\00:40:48.24
whether or not we
have genuine faith.
00:40:48.24\00:40:50.31
That's a faith that saves us,
00:40:50.31\00:40:52.48
but our works will testify as
to what kind of faith we have.
00:40:52.48\00:40:57.05
That's why James tells us
00:40:57.05\00:40:58.35
if you go look in
the book of James.
00:40:58.35\00:41:00.56
It says some will
say, "Well, I have faith,
00:41:00.56\00:41:03.43
but I don't have works."
00:41:03.43\00:41:04.96
Somebody else might say,
00:41:04.96\00:41:06.43
"Well, I have faith and
it's revealed by my works."
00:41:06.43\00:41:09.86
So, true faith will
always be revealed in obedience,
00:41:09.86\00:41:14.34
willing obedience.
00:41:14.34\00:41:15.27
Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego,
00:41:15.27\00:41:16.54
when they stood
on the plain of Dura
00:41:16.54\00:41:18.31
and a death decree was given
anyone who would not bow down
00:41:18.31\00:41:21.04
and worship the golden image,
00:41:21.04\00:41:22.84
or while they
were saved by faith.
00:41:22.84\00:41:24.71
They were trusting in God.
00:41:24.71\00:41:26.11
But that faith
demonstrated itself in works.
00:41:26.11\00:41:29.38
They stood faithful when
everyone else bowed down.
00:41:29.38\00:41:32.39
So, true faith will
always be demonstrated
00:41:32.39\00:41:34.99
by works of obedience,
00:41:34.99\00:41:37.06
reflecting the character of God.
00:41:37.06\00:41:39.66
Does that help, Jerry?
00:41:39.66\00:41:42.56
- [Jerry] Yes, and
there's another scripture.
00:41:42.56\00:41:45.00
Faith without works is dead.
00:41:45.00\00:41:46.80
- Correct.
00:41:46.80\00:41:48.30
- [Jerry] So any
Christian who claims he's saved
00:41:48.30\00:41:50.84
by the sacrifice of Jesus
00:41:50.84\00:41:53.54
and does not do help
his fellow man, et cetera,
00:41:53.54\00:41:57.58
is not a genuine faith.
00:41:57.58\00:42:00.32
- It's the wrong
kind of faith, right?
00:42:00.32\00:42:02.32
And it's possible to
even deceive yourself
00:42:02.32\00:42:04.09
thinking that you have faith.
00:42:04.09\00:42:06.05
But if your faith is
not producing kind works,
00:42:06.05\00:42:09.92
well then, that's
the wrong kind of faith.
00:42:09.92\00:42:12.13
And of course, this
faith comes from God.
00:42:12.13\00:42:14.36
It's a gift.
00:42:14.36\00:42:15.20
We can ask for it,
00:42:15.20\00:42:16.73
but we need to exercise
that faith in doing those things
00:42:16.73\00:42:18.97
that are pleasing to Him.
00:42:18.97\00:42:20.30
Good question, Jerry,
00:42:20.30\00:42:21.30
Thank you for your call.
00:42:21.30\00:42:22.54
Next caller that
we have is Taivion
00:42:22.54\00:42:24.27
listening in Illinois.
00:42:24.27\00:42:25.41
Taivion, welcome to the program.
00:42:25.41\00:42:27.01
- [Taivion]
Taivion, that's a new one.
00:42:28.41\00:42:30.41
- You know, that's
what popped up on my screen.
00:42:30.41\00:42:32.21
What is your name?
00:42:32.21\00:42:33.11
Oop, we might have missed him.
00:42:34.18\00:42:35.55
Let's try here.
00:42:35.55\00:42:37.39
Dina.
00:42:37.39\00:42:38.32
Dina, New York.
00:42:38.32\00:42:39.49
Are you there?
00:42:39.49\00:42:40.32
- [Dina] Yes, sir. I am.
00:42:41.26\00:42:42.52
- All right.
00:42:42.52\00:42:43.46
Okay, I think it went through,
00:42:43.46\00:42:44.39
and your question tonight.
00:42:44.39\00:42:45.83
- [Dina] My question is...
00:42:47.13\00:42:49.23
Hold on, let me turn this down.
00:42:49.23\00:42:50.77
I'm sorry, I'm driving.
00:42:52.67\00:42:54.00
So, I really
can't- - That's okay.
00:42:54.00\00:42:56.71
- Exactly tell you
where it is that I read it,
00:42:56.71\00:43:00.94
but I know it's in the book
of Genesis where it says that,
00:43:00.94\00:43:04.88
"And God put
Adam in the garden."
00:43:06.05\00:43:10.35
- Yes.
00:43:10.35\00:43:11.82
- [Dina] So I want to
know, was he created in...
00:43:11.82\00:43:14.69
It seems like he was
not created in the garden.
00:43:14.69\00:43:18.23
He created Eve
from Adam in the garden,
00:43:18.23\00:43:22.63
but from what I heard it says,
00:43:22.63\00:43:24.53
"And God put
Adam in the garden."
00:43:24.53\00:43:28.57
- Okay.
00:43:28.57\00:43:29.80
Yeah, let me just
refer to the verse.
00:43:29.80\00:43:31.24
I think the one you're
referring to is Genesis 2:8.
00:43:31.24\00:43:33.17
And it says, "The
Lord God planted a garden
00:43:33.17\00:43:35.28
eastward of Eden
00:43:35.28\00:43:36.61
and there he put the
man whom he had formed."
00:43:36.61\00:43:40.05
So your idea is,
00:43:40.05\00:43:41.28
was Adam created
outside the garden
00:43:41.28\00:43:43.45
or was he created
inside the garden?
00:43:43.45\00:43:46.19
- [Dina] That's
what it sounds like
00:43:46.19\00:43:47.59
because He put him there.
00:43:47.59\00:43:49.12
- Yes.
00:43:49.12\00:43:50.36
Now the phrasing
that you have here
00:43:50.36\00:43:52.03
and I'm looking from...
00:43:52.03\00:43:52.96
This is the New king James.
00:43:52.96\00:43:54.10
Some other
translations might explain it
00:43:54.10\00:43:56.33
a little bit clearer.
00:43:56.33\00:43:57.63
The idea of
being put in the garden
00:43:57.63\00:44:00.07
isn't necessarily
picking something up
00:44:00.07\00:44:01.90
and putting it in
a different place.
00:44:01.90\00:44:04.27
Rather, it carries with it
the idea that that's their home,
00:44:04.27\00:44:07.34
that that's
their dwelling place.
00:44:07.34\00:44:09.44
So, the garden became
the home of Adam and Eve.
00:44:09.44\00:44:13.25
Most likely, God
created the garden first
00:44:13.25\00:44:16.69
and then He formed Adam and
gave him the garden as his home.
00:44:16.69\00:44:21.46
That became his dwelling place.
00:44:21.46\00:44:23.53
The whole earth was before him,
00:44:23.53\00:44:25.43
but specifically
the garden was his home
00:44:25.43\00:44:27.56
or his dwelling place.
00:44:27.56\00:44:29.00
So the Bible doesn't
tell us for sure, you know,
00:44:29.00\00:44:30.90
if God created
Adam right at the gate
00:44:30.90\00:44:32.97
and kind of laid
him into the garden.
00:44:32.97\00:44:34.77
It could very well
have been the case.
00:44:34.77\00:44:36.81
Or if he was
created in the garden
00:44:36.81\00:44:38.97
and God said,
"This garden is yours,"
00:44:38.97\00:44:41.11
in the sense of
putting him in the garden,
00:44:41.11\00:44:43.51
the Bible's not
exactly clear on that.
00:44:43.51\00:44:46.25
But either way, I think
the idea would be there,
00:44:46.25\00:44:48.72
that the garden
became their home.
00:44:48.72\00:44:50.42
- [Dina] Uh-huh! We've
been taught all our lives
00:44:51.82\00:44:53.82
that they were created
in the garden and all that
00:44:53.82\00:44:57.03
and I was reading and I said,
00:44:57.03\00:44:58.39
"Wait a minute,
He put him there."
00:44:58.39\00:45:00.36
- Yes, put him there in a
sense of that was his home,
00:45:00.36\00:45:03.13
his dwelling place.
00:45:03.13\00:45:04.20
- [Dina] Uh-hmm. And
thank you guys so much.
00:45:05.33\00:45:08.57
About 10 years ago,
00:45:08.57\00:45:09.90
Pastor Doug sent me a booklet
00:45:09.90\00:45:12.87
that was talking about the chip.
00:45:12.87\00:45:17.08
And it was like it
was gonna be in something
00:45:17.08\00:45:20.28
that looked like a
little grain of rice
00:45:20.28\00:45:23.52
and all our information
was gonna be put there
00:45:23.52\00:45:28.26
and then under our skin.
00:45:28.26\00:45:30.23
And I was telling people.
00:45:30.23\00:45:31.49
It's like, "Whoa, this
is what's gonna happen."
00:45:31.49\00:45:33.26
And people were
looking at me like I was crazy,
00:45:33.26\00:45:36.00
and that's exactly
what is happening now.
00:45:36.00\00:45:38.83
- Yes, when you're
getting into Bible prophecy,
00:45:38.83\00:45:40.87
you learn some
interesting things.
00:45:40.87\00:45:42.37
And of course, I
wouldn't be the first one
00:45:42.37\00:45:44.27
to wanna get any kind
of implant under the skin,
00:45:44.27\00:45:46.61
and the Bible
speaks against that.
00:45:46.61\00:45:47.98
But from a spiritual sense,
00:45:47.98\00:45:50.05
when you talk about
the mark of the beast,
00:45:50.05\00:45:51.61
we understand it
has to do with worship.
00:45:51.61\00:45:53.28
It's not a
physical computer chip,
00:45:53.28\00:45:55.02
but it really has to do
with worship and allegiance,
00:45:55.02\00:45:57.49
who do we obey
and who do we worship.
00:45:57.49\00:46:00.32
Matter of fact, we
do have a study guide
00:46:00.32\00:46:01.82
that talks about that for
anyone wanting to learn more
00:46:01.82\00:46:03.93
about the mark of the beast.
00:46:03.93\00:46:05.19
Is it a computer chip
in the hand or in the feet?
00:46:05.19\00:46:07.50
Or what does the
Bible say about that?
00:46:07.50\00:46:09.90
And I think Dina
referenced that subject.
00:46:09.90\00:46:13.03
You can read the study guide.
00:46:13.03\00:46:14.84
It's called "The
Mark of the Beast."
00:46:14.84\00:46:16.57
And all you have to do
is call and ask for it.
00:46:16.57\00:46:18.61
The number is 800-835-6747.
00:46:18.61\00:46:21.98
And again, just ask
for the study guide.
00:46:21.98\00:46:23.85
It's called "The
Mark of the Beast."
00:46:23.85\00:46:25.45
We're gonna try
Illinois once again.
00:46:25.45\00:46:28.62
Taivion, I'm not
pronouncing your name right?
00:46:28.62\00:46:31.35
- [Taivion] No, it's Taivion.
00:46:32.65\00:46:34.22
- Taivion, thank you.
00:46:34.22\00:46:35.46
All right, and your
question this evening.
00:46:35.46\00:46:39.06
- [Taivion] Yes,
my question was...
00:46:39.06\00:46:41.36
So I was going through the Bible
00:46:42.26\00:46:44.97
'cause I have read through
the new Testament already
00:46:44.97\00:46:47.84
and I'm going through the old,
00:46:47.84\00:46:50.37
and I was brought back to...
00:46:50.37\00:46:53.07
I believe it was Matthew 12:42.
00:46:53.07\00:46:56.78
Yeah, 42.
00:46:56.78\00:46:58.08
About the queen of the south,
00:46:58.08\00:46:59.48
how she shall
rise on the judgment,
00:46:59.48\00:47:01.25
how she shall rise and generally
condemn the generation.
00:47:02.58\00:47:07.16
So I've taken that as,
00:47:07.16\00:47:09.32
especially due the fact
that I put Solomon in there,
00:47:09.32\00:47:11.39
that it's confirming
that the queen of Sheba
00:47:11.39\00:47:14.13
will be in heaven.
00:47:14.13\00:47:15.00
But I also read,
00:47:15.00\00:47:16.67
I think it was one
of the other gospels
00:47:16.67\00:47:18.73
or made with
someone in the new Testament
00:47:18.73\00:47:20.67
that it also confirmed
00:47:20.67\00:47:22.17
that King Nebuchadnezzar
was going to be there too?
00:47:22.17\00:47:24.71
- Yes, that's a good point.
00:47:26.21\00:47:28.34
We believe
Nebuchadnezzar will be here
00:47:28.34\00:47:30.08
because he actually
wrote a chapter in the Bible.
00:47:30.08\00:47:33.52
It's the only
chapter that we know of
00:47:33.52\00:47:35.75
written by a pagan king,
00:47:35.75\00:47:37.49
and you find it in
the book of Daniel.
00:47:37.49\00:47:40.19
Yes, Daniel 4 is
actually the description
00:47:40.19\00:47:44.16
of Nebuchadnezzar's dream and
the explanation of the dream.
00:47:44.16\00:47:47.66
And that at the
end of the chapter,
00:47:47.66\00:47:49.03
you read how that
Nebuchadnezzar acknowledges
00:47:49.03\00:47:50.97
the God of
heaven and worships Him.
00:47:50.97\00:47:52.30
So, the fact that
there is a chapter recorded
00:47:52.30\00:47:54.97
by Nebuchadnezzar in the Bible
00:47:54.97\00:47:57.04
and that at the end of
the chapter he acknowledges
00:47:57.04\00:47:58.91
and worships the God of
heaven is a stronger indication
00:47:58.91\00:48:01.84
that yes, he was saved.
00:48:01.84\00:48:03.21
He did come to a
knowledge of the true God.
00:48:03.21\00:48:05.18
- [Taivion] Okay.
00:48:06.15\00:48:07.08
Okay, I just wanted to make sure
00:48:07.08\00:48:08.28
because I was
going through Matthew
00:48:08.28\00:48:10.75
and then I got confused
00:48:10.75\00:48:11.95
because I'm like,
okay, I know we believe
00:48:11.95\00:48:13.86
that he's going to heaven,
00:48:13.86\00:48:15.12
but I thought there
was a specific verse
00:48:15.12\00:48:16.36
that said that he
would go into heaven
00:48:16.36\00:48:19.16
along with the queen of
Sheba before the Pharisees.
00:48:19.16\00:48:22.66
- Not in the new Testament, no.
00:48:22.66\00:48:24.57
The evidence used for
Nebuchadnezzar being saved
00:48:24.57\00:48:27.90
comes directly from Daniel.
00:48:27.90\00:48:29.74
- [Taivion] Okay, thank you.
00:48:30.67\00:48:31.64
- All right, great question.
00:48:31.64\00:48:32.67
Thank you.
00:48:32.67\00:48:34.14
Next caller that we have is
Raymond listening from Michigan,
00:48:34.14\00:48:36.24
Raymond, welcome to the program.
00:48:36.24\00:48:38.61
- [Raymond] Hello,
sir. How you doing?
00:48:38.61\00:48:39.91
- Doing well, thank you.
00:48:39.91\00:48:41.12
And your question tonight?
00:48:43.79\00:48:45.92
- [Raymond] My
question is in Genesis 4:14.
00:48:45.92\00:48:50.89
- Okay.
00:48:50.89\00:48:51.73
- [Raymond] After God
curse Cain for killing Abel,
00:48:53.09\00:48:56.83
"Surely you have
driven me out this day
00:48:56.83\00:49:01.14
from the face of the ground.
00:49:01.14\00:49:03.27
I shall be
hidden from your face.
00:49:03.27\00:49:05.57
I shall be a fugitive
and a vagabond on the earth.
00:49:05.57\00:49:09.78
And it will happen that anyone
who finds me will kill me."
00:49:09.78\00:49:14.78
How could he have said that
00:49:16.99\00:49:18.49
when there was only Adam and
Eve and himself on the earth?
00:49:18.49\00:49:21.96
- Okay.
00:49:21.96\00:49:22.89
By the time this story occurred
00:49:22.89\00:49:23.89
between Cain and Abel,
00:49:23.89\00:49:25.79
there were other sons and
daughters born to Adam and Eve
00:49:25.79\00:49:29.20
that are not referenced
specifically at the time
00:49:29.20\00:49:31.83
because you'd lead...
00:49:31.83\00:49:33.27
Sorry, you'll read on later on,
00:49:33.27\00:49:34.74
it talks about Adam and Eve
having other sons and daughters.
00:49:34.74\00:49:38.84
So where did Cain and Abel...
00:49:38.84\00:49:40.84
Or at least Cain,
00:49:40.84\00:49:41.81
where did Cain get his wife?
00:49:41.81\00:49:42.98
Well, it was a sister.
00:49:42.98\00:49:44.58
It was a
daughter of Adam and Eve.
00:49:44.58\00:49:46.48
So there were other
people on the earth.
00:49:46.48\00:49:48.08
How many?
00:49:48.08\00:49:49.02
The Bible does not tell us.
00:49:49.02\00:49:50.42
But the fact that,
they were all related
00:49:50.42\00:49:53.62
and they're all siblings,
00:49:53.62\00:49:54.82
you can
understand Cain's concern
00:49:54.82\00:49:56.86
if one of his
brothers come across him
00:49:56.86\00:49:58.83
and they know
that he killed Abel.
00:49:58.83\00:50:01.40
Well then, maybe
they'll wanna kill him.
00:50:01.40\00:50:03.97
So it were the
other siblings of Cain
00:50:03.97\00:50:06.84
that's been referred to there.
00:50:06.84\00:50:08.74
- [Raymond] Okay, okay.
00:50:08.74\00:50:10.67
All right, thank you very much
00:50:10.67\00:50:11.94
and you all are
doing a great job.
00:50:11.94\00:50:13.98
- All right.
00:50:13.98\00:50:14.91
- [Raymond] On the radio.
00:50:14.91\00:50:15.84
- Thanks for your call, Raymond.
00:50:15.84\00:50:16.75
Appreciate it.
00:50:16.75\00:50:17.68
- [Raymond] Okay.
00:50:17.68\00:50:18.51
Yeah, okay. Thank you.
00:50:18.51\00:50:19.58
- Next caller that we have...
00:50:19.58\00:50:21.28
Let's see.
00:50:21.28\00:50:22.42
We've got Robert
listening in Washington.
00:50:22.42\00:50:25.79
Robert, welcome to the program.
00:50:25.79\00:50:27.36
- [Robert] Hello.
00:50:29.32\00:50:30.56
Thank you for taking
my call, Pastor Ross.
00:50:30.56\00:50:32.03
- Hi, and your question tonight.
00:50:32.03\00:50:33.83
- [Robert] I thought I'd
ask you a Revelation question
00:50:35.73\00:50:38.80
since that's your specialty.
00:50:38.80\00:50:41.04
- I like revelation, yes.
00:50:41.04\00:50:42.64
- [Robert] The one guy, a
few couple or three things ago,
00:50:47.38\00:50:51.28
was mentioning the
question that I asked.
00:50:51.28\00:50:53.65
Well, at least he
breezed through it anyway
00:50:53.65\00:50:56.42
about death and
hell where he said Hades.
00:50:56.42\00:51:00.19
- Yes.
00:51:00.19\00:51:01.42
- [Robert] But I've
heard of it saying...
00:51:01.42\00:51:03.89
I guess that's
probably King James.
00:51:03.89\00:51:06.13
Death and hell being
cast in the lake of fire.
00:51:06.13\00:51:09.03
How can hell be cast
into itself, kind of thing?
00:51:09.03\00:51:12.90
- Oh, good question.
00:51:12.90\00:51:14.34
All right, the verse, I
think, you're referring to...
00:51:14.34\00:51:15.94
I'm just gonna
put you on mute there
00:51:15.94\00:51:17.14
'cause we had a
little background noise.
00:51:17.14\00:51:18.87
Revelation 20,
and it's verse 14,
00:51:18.87\00:51:21.81
actually starting verse 13,
00:51:21.81\00:51:23.91
it says, "The sea gave
up the dead that was in it
00:51:23.91\00:51:26.48
and death and Hades delivered
up the dead that were in them.
00:51:26.48\00:51:29.65
And they were judged
each according to the works."
00:51:29.65\00:51:31.65
Now the word Hades
there simply means the grave.
00:51:31.65\00:51:35.29
This is the old
King James language.
00:51:35.29\00:51:37.49
I'm using the New King James.
00:51:37.49\00:51:39.39
So when it says death and Hades,
00:51:39.39\00:51:40.80
it just simply
means death and the grave.
00:51:40.80\00:51:43.03
And then verse 14
says, "And death and Hades."
00:51:44.23\00:51:46.20
same word
talking about the grave.
00:51:46.20\00:51:48.34
"Death and Hades were
cast into the lake of fire.
00:51:48.34\00:51:50.57
This is the second death."
00:51:50.57\00:51:52.04
Meaning that after the
lake of fire does its work,
00:51:52.04\00:51:55.18
there will be no more death
and there'll be no more grave.
00:51:55.18\00:51:59.38
So sometimes in King James,
00:51:59.38\00:52:01.65
you find the word
hell used for the grave,
00:52:01.65\00:52:04.02
but it just
simply means the grave.
00:52:04.02\00:52:05.62
It's not a place of torment.
00:52:05.62\00:52:07.46
That was a pagan idea
that came along later on.
00:52:07.46\00:52:10.26
But the word Hades
just means the grave.
00:52:10.26\00:52:14.40
So that's the explanation there.
00:52:14.40\00:52:16.16
Does that help, Robert?
00:52:16.16\00:52:17.70
- [Robert] Yes,
thank you very much.
00:52:19.03\00:52:20.00
- Okay, you're welcome.
00:52:20.00\00:52:21.54
Thanks for your call.
00:52:21.54\00:52:22.80
I think we have
time for maybe...
00:52:22.80\00:52:25.24
Let's see.
00:52:25.24\00:52:26.17
We got one more call perhaps.
00:52:26.17\00:52:29.04
Lilia listening from Arizona.
00:52:29.04\00:52:30.61
We got about two minutes, Lilia.
00:52:30.61\00:52:33.05
- [Lilia] Hello, thank you.
00:52:33.05\00:52:35.05
During the
seven-year tribulation,
00:52:35.05\00:52:37.49
will no one be able to be
saved even if they repent?
00:52:37.49\00:52:42.49
- Okay.
00:52:42.96\00:52:43.76
Well, first of all,
00:52:43.76\00:52:45.19
you mentioned the word
seven years of tribulation.
00:52:45.19\00:52:46.86
You won't find seven-year
tribulation in the Bible.
00:52:46.86\00:52:50.90
There is a tribulation
that the Bible speaks about,
00:52:50.90\00:52:53.44
but it's not
gonna be seven years.
00:52:53.44\00:52:55.04
During the tribulation,
00:52:55.04\00:52:56.40
the seven last
plagues get pour out
00:52:56.40\00:52:58.24
and maybe that's
where the confusion is.
00:52:58.24\00:52:59.71
Sometimes people
think the seven last plagues
00:52:59.71\00:53:01.88
and they think of
that has been seven years.
00:53:01.88\00:53:04.15
But actually, the seven
last plagues will fall roughly
00:53:04.15\00:53:06.68
in about the period of a year.
00:53:06.68\00:53:08.82
And the reason we say that
00:53:08.82\00:53:10.09
is because
Revelation speaks of the plagues
00:53:10.09\00:53:11.85
coming upon Babylon in one day.
00:53:11.85\00:53:14.42
One prophetic day is
equal to one literal year.
00:53:14.42\00:53:17.93
So you have a time of trouble
00:53:17.93\00:53:19.59
or you call it the tribulation.
00:53:19.59\00:53:21.40
It's about the period of a year
00:53:21.40\00:53:23.20
when the seven last
plagues are poured out.
00:53:23.20\00:53:25.50
Now it is true that
00:53:25.50\00:53:26.74
before the seven last
plagues are poured out,
00:53:26.74\00:53:29.57
probation does close.
00:53:29.57\00:53:31.64
So, there'll be two
groups when that time comes.
00:53:31.64\00:53:33.74
Those who have the seal of God,
00:53:33.74\00:53:35.08
those who love God
and keep His commandments,
00:53:35.08\00:53:36.88
and those who have
the mark of the beast.
00:53:36.88\00:53:38.98
And then probation closes.
00:53:38.98\00:53:40.48
The seven last
plagues are poured out,
00:53:40.48\00:53:42.65
but the plagues don't harm
those who have the seal of God.
00:53:42.65\00:53:45.22
They are protected
00:53:45.22\00:53:46.42
during this time of
widespread destruction.
00:53:46.42\00:53:49.19
They're protected
because they're sealed by God.
00:53:49.19\00:53:51.86
And then at the end
of that tribulation,
00:53:51.86\00:53:54.13
then Jesus comes and you
have the great resurrection.
00:53:54.13\00:53:57.57
The dating
Christ are resurrected.
00:53:57.57\00:53:59.10
Those who are alive are caught
up to meet Jesus in the air
00:53:59.10\00:54:02.27
and the wicked are destroyed
00:54:02.27\00:54:03.54
with the
brightness of His coming.
00:54:03.54\00:54:05.71
So when this great tribulation
spoken of in Daniel 12,
00:54:05.71\00:54:10.71
when that time does come,
probation would've closed.
00:54:12.18\00:54:13.45
Everybody would
have made up their mind
00:54:13.45\00:54:15.22
which side they're gonna be on.
00:54:15.22\00:54:16.99
But that
tribulation is not closed yet.
00:54:16.99\00:54:19.15
The gospel is still
going out to the world.
00:54:19.15\00:54:21.02
People are still responding.
00:54:21.02\00:54:22.72
The Holy Spirit is speaking
to the hearts of individuals.
00:54:22.72\00:54:25.79
Probation is not yet closed.
00:54:25.79\00:54:28.00
But when it does close
00:54:28.00\00:54:29.26
after the mark of the
beast becomes an issue
00:54:29.26\00:54:31.63
and you have the seal of God,
00:54:31.63\00:54:33.47
then it is that
everyone's made up their mind.
00:54:33.47\00:54:35.90
Probation closes and the seven
last plagues are poured out.
00:54:35.90\00:54:39.27
You know, we do
have a study guide
00:54:39.27\00:54:40.51
that talks about
the mark of the beast
00:54:40.51\00:54:42.11
and it's called
"The Mark of the Beast"
00:54:42.11\00:54:43.78
and we'll be happy to send
it to anyone who calls and asks.
00:54:43.78\00:54:46.45
The number is 800-835-6747
00:54:46.45\00:54:50.35
and you'll have a
lot more information,
00:54:50.35\00:54:52.19
more than I can
actually share on the radio,
00:54:52.19\00:54:54.69
with all the Bible
verses and everything related
00:54:54.69\00:54:57.09
to the subject of
the mark of the beast
00:54:57.09\00:54:58.59
or the seal of God.
00:54:58.59\00:55:00.13
Now, friends, do you hear
that music in the background?
00:55:00.13\00:55:02.36
We got two more
minutes of internet questions.
00:55:02.36\00:55:05.90
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00:55:05.90\00:55:06.94
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00:55:06.94\00:55:08.17
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00:55:08.17\00:55:09.70
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and we will try to answer
as many of these questions
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as we could or we can in
the next minute and a half.
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So, we do have some
questions that came in.
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First question is,
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did the angels know
what was good and evil
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before Eve committed sin?
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Revelation 12 talks
about a war in heaven
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where Michael and his
angels fought against the dragon
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and the dragon and his angels,
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they lost the war and
they were thrown out of heaven.
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So, there was a
knowledge of right and wrong
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prior to Adam and Eve.
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And of course the
devil tempted Adam and Eve,
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or Eve, and then Eve
gave the fruit to Adam.
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He knew what he was doing.
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He knew that he was trying
to get them to disobey God
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and disobey His commandments.
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Another question that we have,
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does the Bible say
that some people are saved
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in the second resurrection?
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Well, the Bible speaks of
two general resurrections.
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There is the first resurrection
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that takes place at
the second coming of Christ
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when the dead in
Christ are resurrected
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and then they go to
heaven for a thousand years.
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At the end of
the thousand years,
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in Revelation 21,
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you have the new Jerusalem
coming down from heaven.
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At that time, Jesus sets
His feet on the Mount of Olives
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and it opens up and
forms a great valley
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and the new
Jerusalem comes to rest
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and then all the
wicked are resurrected.
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They're resurrected for
the great white throne judgment
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that you read
about in Revelation 20.
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At the end of which,
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the wicked mount their
attack upon the new Jerusalem
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and fire comes
down and devours them.
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So those resurrected in
the second resurrection,
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is there any hope of them
being converted and saved?
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The answers is no.
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Those who are resurrected
in the first resurrection,
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they're the ones that are saved.
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Those who are resurrected
in the second resurrection,
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they're the ones who are
in rebellion against God.
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They are resurrected
simply for the final judgment
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and then the destruction comes.
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Our last question that
we're gonna be able to get,
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is the Holy Spirit on the
left hand of God the Father
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if Jesus is seated at the
right hand of God the Father?
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well, it's interesting
when you look in Revelation 4,
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you have a description
of the heavenly throne room
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and it speaks about
God's seated upon His throne.
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But before the throne,
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in front of the throne,
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it talks about seven
burning lamps of fire
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which is a symbol
of the Holy Spirit.
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So we know Christ is at
the right hand of the Father.
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The Holy Spirit has a position
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at least
described in Revelation 4
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as being before the throne,
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not necessarily on the
other side of the throne.
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So, that is an
interesting point.
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Thank you for
calling in, friends.
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We look forward to next week
for more Bible Answers Live.
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