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Now, here's your host from
Amazing Facts International,
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Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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- Hello, friends.
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Would you like to
hear an amazing fact?
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Dragon flies are among
the fastest of all insects,
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having been clocked
at over 60 miles an hour.
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Fossils tell us
that before the flood,
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some dragon flies had a
wingspan of nearly three feet.
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Not only are they fast
but they're strong too.
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About half of their body mass
is devoted to flight muscles
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and they have the ability
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to lift more than
twice their body weight,
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a feat that no manmade
aircraft has ever come near.
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They can take off backwards,
then accelerate at warp speed,
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then stop in an instant.
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They can also execute an
unbanked turn as if on a pivot,
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summer salt in
the heat of combat
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and fly virtually any maneuver
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using an infinite
combination of its four wings.
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Not only can the dragonfly
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outmaneuver anything else on
wings, it can see better too.
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It's wraparound compound
eyes contain over 30,000 lenses,
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providing a 360
degree field of view.
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In fact, a dragon flag
can see a net three feet away,
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dart from its nest,
seize and devour the prey,
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and return to its perch
all in about one second.
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In addition,
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the success rate when
hunting is nearly a 100%,
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where compared to like a
(indistinct), Falcon or a lion
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it's 25%.
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The US Air Force has studied
the amazing flight versatility
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of dragonflies and wind tunnels,
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hoping to uncover the secret
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of their incredible
aerodynamic abilities,
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yet the
extraordinary flying ability
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and seeing
ability of dragonflies
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doesn't match up with
some characters in the Bible,
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Pastor Ross.
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(Pastor Doug laughs)
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- Well, I know where you're
going with that Pastor Doug,
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talking about speed.
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I mean, dragonflies are fast
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but in comparison
to other created beings
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they don't even come close,
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we're talking about angels.
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Angels, the Bible
says, also has wings.
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We have a description of
angels with wings in the Bible,
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but these amazing
creations, these amazing beings,
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the Bible calls
them ministering spirits,
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can travel faster
than the speed of light.
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So, we're thinking
probably the speed of thought,
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you'd think.
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- There's something
between the speed of light
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and how fast angels go,
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we don't know what
that measurement is
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but there's an example
in the Bible, I believe,
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in the Book of Daniel.
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- Yeah, there's an
interesting passage
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you find in Daniel chapter nine,
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a little bit of
the background here.
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You have the prophet Daniel
who's praying for understanding,
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and in response to his
prayer the angel Gabriel
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is sent to
answer Daniel's prayer.
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And we actually find the verse
here in Daniel chapter nine,
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and starting in
verse 21 it says,
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"Yes, while I was
speaking in prayer,"
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this is Daniel the prophet,
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"... the man Gabriel,
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whom I had seen in the
vision at the beginning,
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being caused to fly swiftly,
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reached me about the
time of the evening offering."
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So, Pastor Doug, here we
have here Daniel, I should say,
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the prophet
praying for understanding.
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And then the angel
Gabriel gets the commission,
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go answer Daniel's request,
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we find in verse 23 of
the same chapter, it says,
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now Gabriel is
speaking and he says,
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"At the beginning
of your supplication,"
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that's the
beginning of his prayer,
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"... the commandment went out,
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and I've come to tell you,
for you are greatly beloved;
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therefore consider the matter,
and understand the vision."
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So, you look back a
little further in the chapter
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you probably got 10 minutes
of talking, or maybe even less,
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where Daniel is praying,
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he begins his
prayer confessing his sins.
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From that point to
where Gabriel suddenly appears
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in front of Daniel, he
flies from heaven to earth
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in a very short period of time.
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- Yeah, it's just fractions
of seconds, or minutes,
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going all that distance,
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which is encouraging to
know when you're in trouble
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and you pray, it
doesn't take very long
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for the paramedic to get to
you, the heavenly paramedic,
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and, what do they call
it, the 911 response time.
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It's pretty quick for heaven.
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Well, Pastor Ross,
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it's good to be here
for the program tonight.
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Wanna welcome you friends,
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And, Pastor Doug,
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to begin the program.
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We have an
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that comes from
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and that study guide is called
"Angel Messages from Space".
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It's talking about
the Three Angels Messages
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that we find in
Revelation chapter 14.
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- Yes.
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- Before we go
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we always like to
begin with prayer,
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so let's do that right now.
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Dear Father, we thank
You that we have this time,
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once again, where we can just
gather together through media,
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open up Your Word and study.
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Father, we thank you
for those who are listening
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and we pray Your
blessing upon this program,
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guide us into a
clearer understanding
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what the Bible teaches.
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And we ask this
in Jesus' name, amen.
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- Amen.
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- All right, ready to
go to the phone lines.
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We've got April
listening in Florida.
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April, welcome to the program.
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- [April] Hi, good
evening, pastor Doug.
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Good evening, pastor Jëan,
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it's good to
hear you guys again.
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- Thank you for calling.
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- [April] Thank you
for accepting my call.
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So, my question is,
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in the Book of John
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Jesus mentioned nobody
has seen the face of God,
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or I think He said
nobody's seen the face of God.
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But I believe Abraham,
Moses and Elijah are in heaven.
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Also, when Jesus
was on the mountain,
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and I'm sorry I don't
have my Bible with me.
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When Jesus was on the mountain,
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I believe with
Abraham and Elijah,
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James, Peter and
John, I believe, saw Him.
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So, why would Jesus say,
I think to the Pharisees,
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nobody has seen the face of
God except for the Son of Man?
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- Yeah, I think that the key
there is Jesus actually says,
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"No man have seen the Father."
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And so people have
seen Jesus, the Son.
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Now, for an example, if
you go to Exodus chapter 33,
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Moses says, "Lord,
show me Your glory."
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And He said, "No
man can see My glory."
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Matter of fact, let me
see, if you look in verse 20,
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He said, "You
cannot see My face,
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no man can see
My face and live."
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And so, to see the face of
God in his undiminished glory
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would just be too much.
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Now, that's because
we're in our sinful condition,
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so once Moses and
Elijah are in heaven
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and they've got
their glorified bodies,
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they can endure
the presence of God.
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Indeed, Adam and Eve used
to walk with God in the garden,
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so they could see God.
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And they were probably
spending time with God, the Son,
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in those encounters,
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But God, the
Father in particular,
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in His
undiminished glory, humans,
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especially in
our lost condition,
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we could not bear the
sight it would consume us,
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be like a laser.
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So, there's a distinction there
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and often when
people have seen God,
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He's veiled His divinity in
the form of a man or something,
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and would appear to
people like Abraham and Jacob
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and Manoah, or
Manoah and his wife.
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- So, would that be Christ
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that appeared in the old
Testament to Abraham and...
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- Yeah, those are
called Christophanies,
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they're the pre-incarnation
appearances of Jesus.
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Jesus appeared several times,
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that's why Jesus said
to the Jewish leaders,
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"Abraham longed to
see My day and he saw it."
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Jesus appeared to Abraham
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and, of course, Abraham
saw Christ in the sacrifice
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of when he offered Isaac.
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He saw Him prefigured there.
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So, hope that makes sense,
April, that it is still true,
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no man can see the
face of God the Father,
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but clearly people
have seen God the Son.
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- All right, next
caller that we have
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is Palmer
listening from, is that Iowa?
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Palmer, welcome to the program.
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- [Palmer] Oh,
I'm glad to be here.
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I'm glad you guys were
willing to take this question.
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- Sure.
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- [Palmer] The question is,
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in Daniel chapter two the
stone that turns into a mountain
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and fills the whole earth,
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is that a literal
kingdom after the millennium?
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- Well, let's use some
biblical hermeneutics here.
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When we look at Daniel two,
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and you see in the
image their head is of gold
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and the arms of silver,
and the belly is bronze,
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and the legs of iron, and
the feet are iron in clay.
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Do those other metals
represent real kingdoms, Palmer?
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And, obviously,
Babylon really represented
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a literal kingdom of
Babylon, the head of gold.
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And the silver was a
literal kingdom of Persia,
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so when you get down to
the stone, to be consistent,
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it must be a
literal kingdom of Jesus,
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And not only did Christ
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begin preaching
the spiritual kingdom
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when he came 2000 years ago,
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we're looking
forward to a literal kingdom.
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The spiritual kingdom
has always been available,
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it's within you, but the
literal kingdom is still future
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'cause the devil is
contesting this world,
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but Jesus is going to create
a new heavens and new earth,
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and says the knowledge
of God will fill the world.
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That's when that new
kingdom is established on earth.
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- You know, pastor Doug,
there's an interesting verse
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that I like in
Matthew 21 verse 44.
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And, Palmer, maybe you've
never seen this verse before.
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It's actually
Jesus, and He says,
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"Whoever falls upon
this stone shall be broken;
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but on whomever it falls,
it'll grind him to powder."
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It's kind of interesting,
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Christ here is
referring to Daniel chapter two
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because the stone that comes
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and strikes the
image upon its feet,
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it says it grinds all of
these various metals to powder
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and the wind blows it away;
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and then the stone grows
and becomes a great mountain.
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So, to fall upon the
stone, the stone being Christ,
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our hearts are broken.
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But there is a warning,
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if we don't take
advantage of the salvation
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that Jesus wants to give us,
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when the second coming occurs
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we're gonna be turning to
the rocks and the mountains
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as they fall on us and hide us
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from the face of Him
who sits upon the throne.
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So, yes, it's a very literal
kingdom that'll be established.
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Now, there's
phases of that kingdom,
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you have the
second coming of Christ
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where the righteous are
taken to him for 1,000 years,
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the wicked are destroyed.
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But then at the
end of the 1,000 years
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you have the great
white throne judgment
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and the wicked are destroyed,
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and then the earth is recreated,
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the new heavens the new earth.
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- Yes.
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- All right, well,
thanks for your call, Palmer.
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We got Michael,
also from Michigan.
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Michael, welcome to the program.
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- [Michael] Yes, hello
Pastor Doug, Pastor Ross.
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Thanks for taking my question.
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- Yeah.
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- [Michael] My question is,
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if Daniel nine, 24
through 27 is a repeat
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and enlargement of
the kingdom of grace,
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where can we find
that in Daniel two?
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- You say Daniel nine,
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well it's talking about
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Daniel nine
chapter 24 through 27 is,
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really, that's the prophecy
of Christ's first coming
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from the time that He would be
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anointed with the
Holy Spirit at His baptism.
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That's at the end of
the 483 days or years,
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to His crucifixion in
the midst of that final week
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when He causes
a sacrifice cease,
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and so that's
the kingdom of grace.
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When you're in
Daniel chapter two
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it's talking about
God's a literal kingdom,
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so they're covering
different time periods
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so I'm not sure...
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Did we say something about
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the kingdom of grace and Daniel
two that you're looking for?
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- [Michael] Well, if
Daniel nine, 24 through 27
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is a repeat and enlargement
of the kingdom of grace,
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I'm wondering where
it is in Daniel two.
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- Well, when Jesus comes it's...
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Let me say this differently.
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The kingdom of grace actually
is available from creation.
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That lamb that was slain from
the foundation of the world,
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everybody saved Old
Testament, New Testament,
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is saved by grace.
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So, all through Daniel two,
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God's people are
always spared through grace,
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nobody is saved by law.
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- Well, I think you do
find an interesting feature
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when you look at
Daniel chapter two
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and Daniel chapter seven,
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and you get Daniel chapter eight
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and then Daniel chapter nine.
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It does cover much
of the same time period,
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but each of the various visions
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amplify and give
additional details.
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So, Daniel chapter two is
focused primarily on powers,
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political powers, and
ultimately the kingdom of God
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being established on earth.
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And then you're
finding Daniel nine,
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the emphasis there is
on the spiritual kingdom,
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the
establishment of that kingdom
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that Jesus preach
when He came and He said,
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"The kingdom of
heaven is at hand,"
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that's the kingdom of grace.
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So, Daniel is addressing
both the kingdom of glory,
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as well as the kingdom of grace
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in the various visions
in Daniel two, Daniel seven.
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You also have the judgment
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that's referred
to in Daniel seven,
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and you also find that
referred to in Daniel eight
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so there's a number of
parallels between these visions.
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- Yeah.
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So, hope that helps
a little bit, Michael,
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and we appreciate
that you can see the grace
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all the way
through all the prophecies.
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But, yeah, they
continue to expand
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not only in Daniel, in
Revelation, they continue to
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enlarge. All right, I think
we're ready for Marcus and--
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- Marcus, welcome.
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Listening from Tennessee.
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Marcus, welcome to the program.
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- [Marcus] Oh, hi.
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My question is, what
is the image to the beast?
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- All right, very good.
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When you read in
revelation chapter 13,
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it talks about that there's
two beasts in revelation 13,
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you got this first beast
and it comes up out of the sea.
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And then you
get the second beast
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that comes up out of the land,
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and he encourages the world
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to make an image
to the first beast
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who had a wound by
the sword, a deadly wound,
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but yet he's
revived, he still lived.
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And the first beast
was the persecuting power
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of the dark ages from
like 538 to about 1798,
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that was 1,260 years
when the people power
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was persecuting,
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like 50 million Christians
died during that time, and Jews,
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and you get the Human
knots and the Walden season,
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and many others.
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And this is not something
original with our radio program,
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this is what the
Protestants taught,
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like Luther, Wesley, Spurgeon.
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I mean, you can
go down the line,
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all the puritans and the
Protestants believe that.
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So, that would
be the first beast,
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but then you
get this other beast
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which we believe
is the United States,
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which it's kind of been
the beach head for Protestants,
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but there's gonna be apostacy,
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which we already
see in the church.
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And they're gonna encourage
the world to make an image,
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that means a likeness,
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they're gonna recreate a
religious political system
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that is very similar
and that is gonna be,
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once again, a persecuting power
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if you do not
worship the way you're told.
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It's what it says,
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if you do not worship
the image of the beast
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you can't buy or sell and
you'll ultimately be killed.
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And I don't think
those days are very far away.
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I always think it's interesting,
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if you look at a
picture of the Vatican
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and then you look at a
picture of the capital building,
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they look like they're
copied after each other.
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And you look in
front of the Vatican
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a great obelisk is there.,
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and in front of the capital
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you've got the
Washington Monument.
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And so, it's kinda interesting,
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they're both kinda based on
this Greco-Roman architecture.
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But that's not the
image, it's not the architecture
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it's the power, the government
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that it's gonna be
a persecuting power.
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- Yeah, I think, Pastor Doug,
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you mentioned it
a little earlier,
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during the dark ages
you had a religious power,
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the church that
was using the state,
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the political
power, to enforce worship
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or a certain type of worship.
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So, an image to the beast
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would be when religious
powers in the United States
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put emphasis or
motivate, coerce, the government
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to start forcing a certain
type of worship or religion.
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That would be an
image to the first beast.
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- Yeah, it's like a facsimile
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is making an image of something.
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And the second beast
encourages the world,
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it's like a
facsimile of the first beast.
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- Right, right.
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- We think image, we think idol,
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it's not like the
world world's gonna be told
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to worship a big Buddha,
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it's talking about
it'll be a similar system.
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- And then it's not
only the United States,
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but with the
support of the United States
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it spreads around the world.
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- Right, it's global.
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- We have a study
guide, it's called,
00:18:19.69\00:18:21.06
"The United States
in Bible Prophecy,"
00:18:21.06\00:18:23.26
just the US in Bible prophecy,
00:18:23.26\00:18:25.17
and we'll be happy
to send this to anyone
00:18:25.17\00:18:26.60
who wants to
learn more about this,
00:18:26.60\00:18:28.34
this is such an
important and fascinating study.
00:18:28.34\00:18:31.27
If you'd like to receive that,
00:18:31.27\00:18:32.41
the number to
call is (800) 835-6747.
00:18:32.41\00:18:35.61
You can ask for the study guide,
00:18:35.61\00:18:36.71
it's called, "The
USA in Bible Prophecy."
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We'll be happy to send it
to anyone who calls and asks.
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We've got Fred
listening from Connecticut.
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Fred, welcome to the program.
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- [Fred] Yes,
00:18:47.19\00:18:48.09
should a Christian be
playing the stock market?
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- All right, good question.
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Well, when you say
playing the stock market,
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I think a Christian
ought to avoid anything
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that borders on gambling.
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Now, investing
in the stock market,
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nothing wrong
with that, morally,
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because if you put
your money in the bank,
00:19:08.94\00:19:11.45
what banks do is
they invest in the market.
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Banks just don't
just sit on the money,
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they lend it out and
they try and gain interest.
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And when you
invest in the stock market
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you're basically buying
part ownership of companies.
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Now, as a Christian,
00:19:25.26\00:19:26.59
I would not recommend
you buy part ownership of
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R.J. R Reynolds,
what is it, tobacco.
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You might not wanna buy part
ownership in Anheuser-Busch,
00:19:33.30\00:19:37.41
which makes Budweiser.
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Those are not things that
Christians should support,
00:19:38.81\00:19:42.41
but there are
legitimate companies,
00:19:42.41\00:19:44.91
maybe are a construction
company or whatever.
00:19:44.91\00:19:48.02
And they're doing well and
you'd like to invest in it,
00:19:48.02\00:19:50.39
there's nothing wrong with that.
00:19:50.39\00:19:51.75
When people start
doing a lot of day trading,
00:19:51.75\00:19:54.12
it's almost like
they're doing speculation
00:19:54.12\00:19:56.09
and that can kind
of border on gambling,
00:19:56.09\00:19:57.96
can be very dangerous,
00:19:57.96\00:19:59.83
but there's
nothing morally wrong
00:19:59.83\00:20:02.00
with investing
money in the stock market.
00:20:02.00\00:20:04.60
- And I think there are
companies that specialize
00:20:04.60\00:20:06.60
in certain companies
that have a good reputation,
00:20:06.60\00:20:10.41
that are not
involved in tobacco, alcohol
00:20:10.41\00:20:13.71
or certain forms
of entertainment;
00:20:13.71\00:20:15.58
and a Christian can
work with those different
00:20:15.58\00:20:19.75
investment companies
and know that your funds
00:20:19.75\00:20:21.72
are going to a good cause.
00:20:21.72\00:20:23.12
- Yeah, and when
you buy a mutual fund,
00:20:23.12\00:20:25.09
a mutual fund is a company
00:20:25.09\00:20:26.52
that has a bouquet
of stocks they've bought
00:20:26.52\00:20:29.59
that are either conservative
or they're aggressive,
00:20:29.59\00:20:31.66
or they're
overseas, or whatever.
00:20:31.66\00:20:34.10
And Jesus said in that
parable of the 10 talents,
00:20:34.10\00:20:38.77
He condemns the lazy
servant who hides his money,
00:20:38.77\00:20:42.60
he buries it,
00:20:42.60\00:20:44.07
says, "You could have at
least given it to the bankers
00:20:44.07\00:20:45.34
that I'd get interest."
00:20:45.34\00:20:47.01
And so, typically, over
time the stock market increases.
00:20:47.01\00:20:50.31
There's an occasional
crash but it usually goes up.
00:20:50.31\00:20:55.08
- All right, thank
you for your call, Fred.
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We've got Anthony
listening in New York.
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Anthony, welcome to the program.
00:20:58.25\00:20:59.82
- [Anthony] Hello,
good evening, pastors.
00:21:01.16\00:21:04.06
I have a pretty
serious question.
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I want to know, how do we
know if someone is struggling
00:21:07.83\00:21:12.87
with demon
possession, demonic possession
00:21:13.94\00:21:16.81
and, if so, what do we do
or what can we do to help,
00:21:16.81\00:21:21.88
if anything?
00:21:22.51\00:21:23.68
- Well, let's assume that you
know it's demonic depression,
00:21:25.08\00:21:27.62
and we'll answer the second
part of the question first,
00:21:27.62\00:21:29.58
what can you do to help.
00:21:29.58\00:21:31.29
In the Bible there's no
question that Jesus said
00:21:31.29\00:21:34.69
that you will have power,
00:21:34.69\00:21:36.22
you can pray and
you can cast out devils.
00:21:36.22\00:21:39.36
And the disciples came
to Jesus once and said,
00:21:39.36\00:21:43.20
"We tried to cast this
devil out of this man's son
00:21:43.20\00:21:45.97
and we couldn't."
00:21:45.97\00:21:47.24
And He said, "Well,
this kind only comes forth
00:21:47.24\00:21:48.24
by prayer and fasting."
00:21:48.24\00:21:50.17
So, through prayer, sometimes
if it's specially serious,
00:21:50.17\00:21:53.21
you'd pray and fast.
00:21:53.21\00:21:55.24
In the Bible, sometimes,
it's claiming the name of Jesus.
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Paul did it that way
00:21:59.68\00:22:01.02
when the girl was
following him in Philippi.
00:22:01.02\00:22:03.08
Sometimes they laid hands
on somebody or touched them.
00:22:03.08\00:22:06.45
So, Christians
should pray for others
00:22:06.45\00:22:08.99
if they're grappling
with demonic possession.
00:22:08.99\00:22:12.23
I've done a lot of work overseas
and it's more prevalent,
00:22:12.23\00:22:15.76
Pastor Ross was born in Africa,
00:22:15.76\00:22:17.73
it's more prevalent in
some of these countries
00:22:17.73\00:22:20.37
where there's a
lot of spiritualism.
00:22:20.37\00:22:22.94
And I've had people just
go berserk during my meeting,
00:22:22.94\00:22:26.81
the pastors grabbed
the person, man or woman,
00:22:26.81\00:22:29.08
and they prayed over them,
00:22:29.08\00:22:30.68
and you'd see
their sanity return.
00:22:30.68\00:22:33.28
So, there's that.
00:22:33.28\00:22:34.42
Now, how do you know if
it's demonic possession?
00:22:34.42\00:22:37.62
Well, that's a
more difficult question.
00:22:37.62\00:22:40.26
There are some people,
00:22:40.26\00:22:41.32
they've just got a
plain old medical problem
00:22:41.32\00:22:43.22
that's affecting their behavior,
00:22:43.22\00:22:45.53
and a doctor can
sometimes help you identify
00:22:45.53\00:22:50.30
something like that.
00:22:50.30\00:22:51.27
There's a thin
line sometimes between
00:22:52.50\00:22:54.57
what may be purely
demonic and spiritual
00:22:54.57\00:22:57.57
and what might be physiological,
00:22:57.57\00:23:00.68
and I think the devil
can even combine the two.
00:23:00.68\00:23:03.78
Meaning, a person
might have a propensity
00:23:03.78\00:23:07.58
to behave erratically,
00:23:07.58\00:23:09.32
and the devil
will take advantage
00:23:09.32\00:23:10.72
of the chemical or
biological problem;
00:23:10.72\00:23:13.89
and with a spiritual
push pushes 'em over the edge.
00:23:13.89\00:23:18.83
So, that is difficult and
sometimes it's hard to tell.
00:23:18.83\00:23:22.80
I've noticed that some people
00:23:22.80\00:23:23.87
that when it's
satanic or it's spiritual,
00:23:23.87\00:23:28.20
it's like they become
preoccupied with spiritual
00:23:28.20\00:23:31.47
things. Even the devils,
the demons, possessed devils,
00:23:32.77\00:23:36.58
they call Jesus out,
"We know who You are.
00:23:36.58\00:23:38.71
Jesus, Son of
the most high God."
00:23:38.71\00:23:40.72
They became obsessed
with spiritual things.
00:23:40.72\00:23:43.12
- And, of course, I
think the devil is very good
00:23:44.45\00:23:45.55
in masquerading his
influence over people.
00:23:45.55\00:23:49.29
In Western societies it
might not be that prevalent
00:23:49.29\00:23:52.16
because people aren't
worshiping the spirits
00:23:52.16\00:23:54.76
as you might find it
in some other places,
00:23:54.76\00:23:56.43
but the devil's hold over the
hearts and the minds of people
00:23:56.43\00:23:59.90
in Western countries are
just as strong, if not stronger,
00:23:59.90\00:24:03.07
than some of these other places.
00:24:03.07\00:24:04.31
- Materialism and (indistinct).
00:24:04.31\00:24:06.01
- Yeah, absolutely.
00:24:06.01\00:24:07.61
- I have a book
that I wrote, Anthony,
00:24:07.61\00:24:09.81
and it's called "Broken Chains".
00:24:09.81\00:24:11.95
And it talks about
when Jesus cast a devil,
00:24:11.95\00:24:14.55
or a legion of
devils out of a man
00:24:14.55\00:24:16.28
that was desperately possessed.
00:24:16.28\00:24:18.09
Now, that's not
among the free books
00:24:18.09\00:24:19.92
it's a little bigger book,
00:24:19.92\00:24:21.49
but you can get that
00:24:21.49\00:24:23.73
by just going to the
Amazing Facts website,
00:24:23.73\00:24:26.06
it's called "Broken Chains".
00:24:26.06\00:24:28.03
- All right,
thanks for your call.
00:24:28.03\00:24:29.13
We've got Eric, and
he's listening in Indiana.
00:24:29.13\00:24:31.47
Eric, welcome to the program.
00:24:31.47\00:24:33.00
- [Eric] Hello.
00:24:33.87\00:24:34.94
There's a strong
pattern in the Old Testament
00:24:34.94\00:24:36.94
of all the Kings
being judged in their lives,
00:24:36.94\00:24:40.01
according to doing what is
right in the sight of the Lord
00:24:40.01\00:24:42.54
or what is evil in
the sight of the Lord,
00:24:42.54\00:24:44.81
and certain terms such
as high places or groves,
00:24:44.81\00:24:48.18
or sacred poles or
ashram poles are used.
00:24:48.18\00:24:51.12
And when we compare Revelation,
the symbols of Jezebel
00:24:51.12\00:24:54.52
being defined as one who
teaches a sexual morality
00:24:54.52\00:24:57.63
or Babylon spreading it
throughout the whole world,
00:24:57.63\00:25:00.60
or the name written on
the forehead of the woman
00:25:00.60\00:25:02.63
being prostitute,
00:25:02.63\00:25:03.93
how strong of a case can we make
00:25:03.93\00:25:05.50
that God was
referring to prostitution
00:25:05.50\00:25:07.40
in these King's judgements,
00:25:07.40\00:25:08.90
and how seriously
does God take prostitution
00:25:08.90\00:25:11.97
and judge
societies by the level in it?
00:25:11.97\00:25:14.01
- Well, prostitution, they
call it the oldest profession,
00:25:15.34\00:25:17.41
is very clearly
condemned in the Bible.
00:25:17.41\00:25:20.82
And it is also true that in
many of the ancient religions,
00:25:20.82\00:25:25.89
in these cult religions,
00:25:26.55\00:25:27.89
even in just the last 70
years they still had it in India
00:25:29.22\00:25:32.96
where some of the Hindu temples
00:25:32.96\00:25:34.03
had what they
call temple virgins,
00:25:34.03\00:25:36.63
but they didn't
say that way long.
00:25:36.63\00:25:38.63
And it was a terrible
way of abusing young girls,
00:25:38.63\00:25:41.17
but a lot of
the ancient idolatry
00:25:42.30\00:25:46.04
involved sexual promiscuity,
00:25:46.04\00:25:49.18
and they called about
sacrifices on the high places
00:25:50.45\00:25:53.25
to the ashram,
00:25:53.25\00:25:54.78
not so much with bail worship
as with some of the others
00:25:56.75\00:26:00.09
but God typically calls
idolatry harlotry in the Bible.
00:26:00.09\00:26:05.09
And because Babylon is,
00:26:06.53\00:26:09.46
there's so much idolatry in
revelation 17 that that woman,
00:26:09.46\00:26:14.07
she's called the harlot.
00:26:14.07\00:26:15.40
So, whenever God's
people went to worship idols
00:26:15.40\00:26:18.47
God called it
infidelity or harlotry.
00:26:18.47\00:26:21.84
So, there's an
overlap between the two,
00:26:21.84\00:26:23.55
you can't always say that every
time people worshiped idols
00:26:23.55\00:26:26.25
that there was prostitution work
00:26:26.25\00:26:29.28
or they had the temple
prostitutes, or whatever.
00:26:29.28\00:26:32.45
Not every religion had that
00:26:32.45\00:26:33.59
but every time that
God went after idols
00:26:33.59\00:26:35.62
God called it harlotry.
00:26:35.62\00:26:37.99
So, I don't know, that's
kind of a vague distinction
00:26:37.99\00:26:40.96
but I hope that
made sense, Eric.
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My name is Doug Batchelor.
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- My name is Jëan Ross,
00:31:04.66\00:31:06.06
and we have Darius listening
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00:31:06.06\00:31:09.43
Darius, welcome to the program.
00:31:09.43\00:31:11.03
- [Darius] Hey, pastors,
goodnight, can you hear me?
00:31:12.53\00:31:14.54
- We can.
00:31:14.54\00:31:15.44
- Okay, hey,
this is my question.
00:31:16.67\00:31:19.21
So, I wanted to know if I
should go back to my church
00:31:19.21\00:31:23.51
because my
pastor told me something
00:31:23.51\00:31:26.85
that I know that's
contrary to the Bible.
00:31:26.85\00:31:29.62
He says that it's okay
00:31:29.62\00:31:32.09
to go to football
game on the Sabbath,
00:31:32.09\00:31:34.72
and he said that I am too
black and white for the Bible.
00:31:34.72\00:31:39.36
And I was discouraged
and I don't know what to do.
00:31:39.36\00:31:43.50
I don't wanna go down
looking for a new church,
00:31:43.50\00:31:46.03
so can you gimme
some points on this?
00:31:46.03\00:31:47.87
- Yeah, all right,
so the question is,
00:31:49.07\00:31:50.77
if you're in a church and the
pastor's telling you something
00:31:50.77\00:31:55.74
that you believe is
categorically untrue,
00:31:56.95\00:31:59.48
well, that often will
cast the other teachings
00:31:59.48\00:32:02.42
under a light of suspicion,
00:32:02.42\00:32:03.89
you'll wonder
what else is he saying
00:32:03.89\00:32:05.55
that I may not be aware
of that is not biblical.
00:32:05.55\00:32:08.62
And so it is cause for concern.
00:32:08.62\00:32:10.86
I would not say that
if people in our church,
00:32:10.86\00:32:14.93
Pastor Ross and I both
pastor at the same church,
00:32:14.93\00:32:18.20
if they said,
00:32:18.20\00:32:19.30
"If I ever hear pastor
Doug say anything wrong
00:32:19.30\00:32:20.74
I'm not coming back,"
There'd be nobody left
00:32:20.74\00:32:23.37
because I'm sure
I've said things wrong,
00:32:23.37\00:32:24.87
'cause we're humans
and the Bible says, what,
00:32:24.87\00:32:27.48
"In the abundance of
words sin is not lacking."
00:32:27.48\00:32:30.51
And sometimes you just
misspeak so if someone said,
00:32:30.51\00:32:33.28
"As soon as he
says something wrong
00:32:33.28\00:32:34.55
or he mispronounces
something, I'm not coming back."
00:32:34.55\00:32:37.49
But then there's
the other extreme
00:32:37.49\00:32:40.16
where if you sit
under erroneous teachings,
00:32:40.16\00:32:44.39
that can affect
your perspective.
00:32:45.49\00:32:48.33
And you see in ancient Israel
00:32:48.33\00:32:50.50
that whenever the king
was not dedicated to God,
00:32:50.50\00:32:53.37
gradually the whole
nation seemed to slip away
00:32:53.37\00:32:55.57
'cause it
followed the leadership.
00:32:55.57\00:32:57.24
So, that's something
you have to pray about.
00:32:58.41\00:33:00.41
I don't know, I would be
surprised if a pastor tells
00:33:00.41\00:33:05.45
people there's nothing wrong
with going to a football game
00:33:06.82\00:33:08.15
on the Sabbath day.
00:33:08.15\00:33:09.48
That's holy time
for worshiping God
00:33:11.45\00:33:13.49
and the
environment of a football game
00:33:13.49\00:33:15.96
with people kinda calling out
for the defeat of their enemy,
00:33:15.96\00:33:20.53
the opponent, just is not
the right mind and attitude,
00:33:20.53\00:33:24.40
and place for worship,
00:33:24.40\00:33:25.50
so that would
really, really surprise me.
00:33:25.50\00:33:26.80
But nothing, I guess,
really surprises me anymore.
00:33:26.80\00:33:30.41
- So, in that case, pastor
what you're suggesting is,
00:33:31.81\00:33:33.84
if we're in a church that is
clearly not preaching the Bible
00:33:33.84\00:33:38.91
or advocating
teachings that are not biblical,
00:33:40.02\00:33:42.55
and we've said something,
we've spoken to the leadership,
00:33:42.55\00:33:44.62
at some point I think
we want to find ourselves
00:33:44.62\00:33:47.92
with those who are
following the Bible
00:33:47.92\00:33:49.72
as closely as they can.
00:33:49.72\00:33:51.43
So, that might mean
looking for another church.
00:33:51.43\00:33:53.70
- And you brought
up a very good point
00:33:53.70\00:33:55.36
that I just wanna
expand a little bit is,
00:33:55.36\00:33:58.33
if you've got a pastor
00:33:58.33\00:33:59.87
and he says something
that is just outta left field
00:33:59.87\00:34:02.54
that surprises you,
respect him enough to go to him.
00:34:02.54\00:34:05.97
And even for his own
soul, approach him and say,
00:34:05.97\00:34:08.44
"According to the
Bible, that is not right."
00:34:08.44\00:34:11.31
And in a loving
spirit and humility,
00:34:11.31\00:34:14.42
it might bring him to
conviction and turn them around.
00:34:14.42\00:34:17.15
And so, make at least an effort
00:34:17.15\00:34:18.49
to be reconciled with
your brother, so to speak,
00:34:18.49\00:34:21.89
and try and drawn 'em back.
00:34:21.89\00:34:23.49
But if they're
firm in preaching error,
00:34:23.49\00:34:25.69
then it's probably not
healthy to continue going.
00:34:25.69\00:34:28.40
- Okay, we've got Steve
listening in California.
00:34:28.40\00:34:30.23
Steve, welcome to the program.
00:34:30.23\00:34:31.80
- [Steve] Hi, pastors.
00:34:33.34\00:34:34.14
Thanks for taking my call.
00:34:34.14\00:34:35.40
- Sure.
00:34:35.40\00:34:36.30
- [Steve] My question
is, when Cain was banished
00:34:37.64\00:34:41.38
he went to the land of Nod,
who lived in the land of Nod?
00:34:43.18\00:34:47.15
- Well, in the very beginning
00:34:48.72\00:34:50.85
the land was talking
about an area, a region,
00:34:50.85\00:34:53.86
that was later named.
00:34:53.86\00:34:54.99
It's just telling
you where he went,
00:34:54.99\00:34:57.13
there's no people there yet.
00:34:57.13\00:34:59.03
And so, when Cain left
00:34:59.03\00:35:01.36
he went to a part of
this Virgin world, country ,
00:35:01.36\00:35:04.90
and developed it,
and it was later named,
00:35:04.90\00:35:07.54
according to what the
various patriarchs named it.
00:35:07.54\00:35:10.31
But when they first went
00:35:10.31\00:35:11.71
it had no name 'cause
there were no aborigines
00:35:11.71\00:35:14.54
or other people living there.
00:35:14.54\00:35:16.24
So, I think Moses just telling
us where that region is now.
00:35:16.24\00:35:21.12
And there's more than one
place called Nob, actually,
00:35:22.48\00:35:25.09
in the Bible.
00:35:25.09\00:35:26.45
David, there's a place
not far from the Philistines
00:35:26.45\00:35:29.26
called Nob too, but that's
not the one that Cain went to.
00:35:29.26\00:35:32.59
- And of course a
lot of things changed,
00:35:32.59\00:35:34.00
this of course
happened before the flood;
00:35:34.00\00:35:35.96
and so many years passed
and then you had the flood,
00:35:35.96\00:35:38.70
and then you had
the writing of the Bible
00:35:38.70\00:35:40.04
during the time of Moses.
00:35:40.04\00:35:41.57
So, it's referring to a
place that was fairly well known
00:35:41.57\00:35:44.97
to people at the time when
Genesis was written by Moses.
00:35:44.97\00:35:49.34
- Yep.
00:35:49.34\00:35:50.48
- All right, thanks
for your call Steve.
00:35:50.48\00:35:51.78
We've got Daniel in Canada.
00:35:51.78\00:35:53.45
Daniel, welcome to the program.
00:35:53.45\00:35:55.08
- [Daniel] Hi
pastors, this is Daniel here.
00:35:56.18\00:35:58.72
So, if Satan tempted Adam
and Eve in the Garden of Eden
00:35:58.72\00:36:03.79
and our hearts became
hard, just like God said
00:36:04.89\00:36:08.16
our hearts are evil.
00:36:08.16\00:36:10.37
Why did God allow
our hearts to become evil
00:36:10.37\00:36:13.17
in the first place?
00:36:13.17\00:36:14.50
Why must we suffer for
the sins of Adam and Eve?
00:36:14.50\00:36:17.67
- Yeah, and you could even
expand that question and say,
00:36:19.01\00:36:22.24
why are some children
born with birth defects
00:36:22.24\00:36:24.95
because of the bad
living habits of their parents?
00:36:24.95\00:36:27.92
Some kids are born
with the cerebral palsy
00:36:27.92\00:36:30.29
because the parents
had alcohol problems.
00:36:30.29\00:36:32.69
And why are people
in Ukraine suffering
00:36:32.69\00:36:35.02
because you've got an
individual that's bombing them,
00:36:35.02\00:36:40.10
what did they do?
00:36:40.76\00:36:41.10
Well, first of all,
00:36:43.80\00:36:44.90
let me back up and go
to the very heart of it.
00:36:44.90\00:36:46.63
God made His
intelligent creatures free,
00:36:46.63\00:36:49.24
with a free will
to choose to love Him
00:36:49.24\00:36:50.97
or choose not to love Him.
00:36:50.97\00:36:52.71
And as soon as man
chose to distrust God
00:36:52.71\00:36:56.04
and not to love God, his compass
needle inside was broken.
00:36:56.04\00:37:01.12
What I mean by that is,
00:37:01.78\00:37:02.85
we're normally
created to love God first.
00:37:02.85\00:37:06.86
The great commandment is, love
the Lord with all your heart,
00:37:06.86\00:37:08.86
even more than yourself,
00:37:08.86\00:37:10.16
and then love your
neighbor as you love yourself.
00:37:10.16\00:37:13.36
And when man fell into sin,
00:37:13.36\00:37:16.03
all of a sudden Adam and
Eve are blaming each other,
00:37:16.03\00:37:18.20
they're not getting
along and they're blaming God,
00:37:18.20\00:37:20.70
they're blaming the
devil and the serpent;
00:37:20.70\00:37:22.34
and all of a sudden man's hearts
became hard because of sin.
00:37:22.34\00:37:27.41
God didn't just say,
"I'm gonna harden the hearts,"
00:37:28.81\00:37:29.88
it was what
happened because of sin.
00:37:29.88\00:37:31.71
But making man free to love
means he's free to not love,
00:37:31.71\00:37:36.79
otherwise God is forcing them
to love, and that's not love.
00:37:38.19\00:37:41.92
- And, of course,
freedom does have consequences
00:37:41.92\00:37:44.73
and we need that.
00:37:44.73\00:37:46.03
I mean, if you have
freedom to choose to love
00:37:46.03\00:37:47.56
and to be a blessing,
00:37:47.56\00:37:48.70
and to be an
encouragement to somebody,
00:37:48.70\00:37:50.73
well, then you also
have freedom to hurt
00:37:50.73\00:37:53.50
and discourage others.
00:37:53.50\00:37:55.50
And people make their choices,
00:37:55.50\00:37:57.21
so the choices that we make
00:37:57.21\00:37:59.01
does have an impact
upon those around us.
00:37:59.01\00:38:01.04
- Absolutely.
00:38:01.04\00:38:02.14
- And, of course,
the devil's choices
00:38:02.14\00:38:03.65
made an impact upon Adam and Eve
00:38:03.65\00:38:05.25
and, of course, all
of their descendants.
00:38:05.25\00:38:08.02
All right, thank you, Daniel.
00:38:08.02\00:38:09.05
We've got Caleb
listening in New York.
00:38:09.05\00:38:10.82
- Hi Caleb.
00:38:12.52\00:38:14.02
- [Caleb] Pastor
Batchelor, how you doing?
00:38:14.02\00:38:15.52
- Really good,
thank you for calling.
00:38:15.52\00:38:17.43
- [Caleb] I'm good, thank you.
00:38:18.23\00:38:19.36
Well, by the way,
I have a question.
00:38:19.36\00:38:20.66
I'm reading the Bible
right now and I wanna know,
00:38:20.66\00:38:25.20
two questions, which
version is better to read?
00:38:25.20\00:38:27.87
Right now I'm
reading the NIV version,
00:38:27.87\00:38:30.14
which is easier
for me to understand
00:38:30.14\00:38:32.47
than the King James version.
00:38:32.47\00:38:34.84
I wanna know if that's okay.
00:38:34.84\00:38:36.18
And, two, I read
the gospels before
00:38:36.18\00:38:40.55
and not until I
started watching your sermons,
00:38:40.55\00:38:43.92
I started understanding
more things I've missed,
00:38:43.92\00:38:46.86
clearly I've missed.
00:38:46.86\00:38:48.62
I was wondering, is there a way,
00:38:48.62\00:38:50.33
is there a pattern I
shouldn't read the Bible
00:38:50.33\00:38:52.03
to get more understanding?
00:38:52.03\00:38:53.46
- Yeah, well, good questions.
00:38:54.46\00:38:56.46
All right, first
part of the question,
00:38:56.46\00:38:58.00
and Pastor Ross might answer
00:38:58.00\00:38:59.73
slightly different than I would.
00:38:59.73\00:39:01.17
I think there's several
good translations of the Bible
00:39:01.17\00:39:03.61
you can read that
they're translations
00:39:03.61\00:39:06.91
from what they call
the Textus Receptus,
00:39:06.91\00:39:08.98
which is I think
the most accurate.
00:39:08.98\00:39:10.88
And that would be, of course,
00:39:10.88\00:39:11.98
King James is the
classic in English.
00:39:11.98\00:39:14.35
And when we say translations
00:39:14.35\00:39:15.45
we're talking about
English translations.
00:39:15.45\00:39:17.62
Right now I'm reading through
the English Standard Version,
00:39:19.02\00:39:21.16
which is also a translation
from the Textus Receptus,
00:39:21.16\00:39:24.03
That is the
American standard version.
00:39:24.03\00:39:26.80
The new King James version
00:39:26.80\00:39:28.10
is what I usually
preach from every week,
00:39:28.10\00:39:30.07
is the new King James version.
00:39:30.07\00:39:31.63
I dunno, Pastor Ross,
you have some other favorite?
00:39:33.03\00:39:34.77
- Yeah, maybe
just to add to that,
00:39:34.77\00:39:36.30
there's a difference
that we need to understand
00:39:36.30\00:39:37.84
between a
translation and a paraphrase.
00:39:37.84\00:39:40.88
Now, we're just
talking about English.
00:39:40.88\00:39:42.24
So, a translation is where
you take the original Greek
00:39:42.24\00:39:45.08
and Hebrew,
little bit of Aramaic,
00:39:45.08\00:39:47.22
and you translate
that into English.
00:39:47.22\00:39:49.68
But a paraphrase might be where
00:39:49.68\00:39:51.35
you could do
this, I could do this,
00:39:51.35\00:39:53.32
we take an English translation
00:39:53.32\00:39:55.66
and we rewrite it in other words
00:39:55.66\00:39:58.93
and we bring out different
ideas, it's more devotional.
00:39:58.93\00:40:01.60
I'm not saying all
paraphrases are wrong,
00:40:01.60\00:40:03.33
but if we're gonna
study to find doctrinal depth
00:40:03.33\00:40:07.17
we wanna go with
the good translation.
00:40:07.17\00:40:09.40
And we also gotta remember,
00:40:09.40\00:40:11.44
the Bible wasn't
written originally in English
00:40:11.44\00:40:13.44
it was written
in Greek and Hebrew,
00:40:13.44\00:40:14.78
and that's where
having a concordance
00:40:14.78\00:40:16.78
and being able to compare
scripture with scripture,
00:40:16.78\00:40:18.71
and go back and look at
some of the original ways
00:40:18.71\00:40:21.18
the words were
used, is always helpful.
00:40:21.18\00:40:23.52
And that really enlarges a
person's study of the Bible.
00:40:23.52\00:40:26.15
- Yeah, and let the
Bible interpret itself.
00:40:26.15\00:40:28.79
If you see a word and you think,
00:40:28.79\00:40:31.13
"I wonder what that word means."
00:40:31.13\00:40:32.16
Look at other
places in the Bible
00:40:32.16\00:40:34.66
where that term
or that word is used,
00:40:34.66\00:40:36.73
and usually through
context of it you can say,
00:40:36.73\00:40:39.10
"Oh, now I see
what they're saying."
00:40:39.10\00:40:41.40
So, that just
happened to me this week
00:40:41.40\00:40:43.54
when we were
studying about Moses
00:40:43.54\00:40:45.81
and it said, "That rock
that followed them was Christ."
00:40:45.81\00:40:48.81
And I was picturing
this Boulder rolling around
00:40:48.81\00:40:50.71
through the wilderness
that kept giving him water.
00:40:50.71\00:40:52.95
And then I looked up
where it says rock and I said,
00:40:52.95\00:40:54.65
"Oh no, Moses is
talking about God."
00:40:54.65\00:40:56.72
He calls God the rock
many times a Deuteronomy.
00:40:56.72\00:40:59.45
So, just by
comparing it with other places
00:40:59.45\00:41:03.22
is usually one of the best ways.
00:41:03.22\00:41:04.86
And how do we study the Bible?
00:41:04.86\00:41:06.43
Well, again, Pastor Ross
might be a little different
00:41:06.43\00:41:08.56
than me, but I'm always
reading through the Bible
00:41:08.56\00:41:11.70
at different points.
00:41:11.70\00:41:13.03
I think you're trying to
read through the whole Bible
00:41:13.03\00:41:13.97
in how long?
00:41:13.97\00:41:15.24
- Yeah, well, there's
different programs you can do.
00:41:15.24\00:41:16.50
You can actually read
through the Bible in 90 days,
00:41:16.50\00:41:19.37
it's about an hour
of reading every day.
00:41:19.37\00:41:21.71
Didn't realize you can actually
get through it that quickly.
00:41:21.71\00:41:23.65
So, yeah, I try to
read through the Bible
00:41:23.65\00:41:25.48
at least once or twice a year.
00:41:25.48\00:41:27.55
And then there's some
great commentaries, as well,
00:41:27.55\00:41:29.42
that you can
read alongside that,
00:41:29.42\00:41:30.82
that really helps
to bring it to light.
00:41:30.82\00:41:32.79
There's different
ways of reading, pastor.
00:41:32.79\00:41:34.19
You can just read it
to get the big picture,
00:41:34.19\00:41:35.99
which if you're gonna read
through the Bible in a year
00:41:35.99\00:41:38.73
you're doing a lot of reading
00:41:38.73\00:41:40.10
and you're getting the
big picture, which is good,
00:41:40.10\00:41:42.33
but there's also
where you focus more
00:41:42.33\00:41:44.73
on a shorter
passage of scripture
00:41:44.73\00:41:46.30
and really try to
squeeze out everything
00:41:46.30\00:41:49.20
that, that chapter or
that passage has to say.
00:41:49.20\00:41:51.94
And that's what
takes a little more time,
00:41:51.94\00:41:53.48
that's where you compare
scripture with scripture.
00:41:53.48\00:41:55.44
And both is good.
- Yep, absolutely.
00:41:55.44\00:41:57.68
Yeah, I use the
computer program, I use Logos,
00:41:58.88\00:42:02.08
and also use a
free one called e-Sword,
00:42:02.08\00:42:05.45
and I find
between the two of them
00:42:05.45\00:42:06.72
I get some great commentaries
and some great tools.
00:42:06.72\00:42:09.82
So, that's probably more
than that gets you started.
00:42:09.82\00:42:14.10
Yeah, you can
read through the Bible,
00:42:14.10\00:42:15.46
you can start with the New
Testament, read the history,
00:42:15.46\00:42:18.50
meaning you go from
Genesis through the Kings,
00:42:18.50\00:42:20.90
and then jump to
the New Testament.
00:42:20.90\00:42:22.77
Thanks so much, Caleb,
hope that helps a little.
00:42:22.77\00:42:24.71
- [Guest 3] We've
got Robert listening.
00:42:24.71\00:42:25.97
- We've got Robert
listening from New Jersey.
00:42:25.97\00:42:27.61
Robert, welcome to the program.
00:42:27.61\00:42:29.24
- [Robert] Good evening,
pastors Doug and Pastor Ross.
00:42:30.55\00:42:33.28
- Evening.
00:42:33.28\00:42:34.92
- [Robert] Good evening.
00:42:34.92\00:42:35.72
My question is just concerning,
00:42:35.72\00:42:37.12
did it rain prior
to the flood or not
00:42:38.39\00:42:40.52
and is there evidence
from the Bible on either?
00:42:40.52\00:42:43.12
And I'll take my
answer off the air.
00:42:44.19\00:42:46.23
- All right, yeah,
thank you very much.
00:42:46.23\00:42:47.60
I believe that the
Bible's pretty clear
00:42:47.60\00:42:49.86
that prior to the
flood it had not rained,
00:42:49.86\00:42:53.17
and you can--
00:42:53.17\00:42:54.67
- Here's the verse, Pastor Doug.
00:42:54.67\00:42:56.04
I know where you're going with--
00:42:56.04\00:42:57.01
- [Pastor Doug] Yeah, go ahead.
00:42:57.01\00:42:58.24
- Genesis, I just
found it on the computer,
00:42:58.24\00:42:59.71
Genesis chapter two
and verse six, it says,
00:42:59.71\00:43:02.78
"Speaking of before the flood,"
00:43:02.78\00:43:04.68
oh, actually verse five.
00:43:04.68\00:43:06.01
It says, "Before any plant
of the field was in the earth
00:43:06.01\00:43:08.72
and before any herb
of the field had grown.
00:43:08.72\00:43:10.45
For the Lord God had not
caused it to rain on the earth,
00:43:10.45\00:43:13.46
and there was no
man to till the ground;
00:43:13.46\00:43:15.49
but a mist went
up from the earth
00:43:15.49\00:43:17.33
and watered the
whole face of the ground."
00:43:17.33\00:43:20.03
- Yeah.
00:43:20.03\00:43:20.93
So, it appears,
00:43:20.93\00:43:22.60
and not only from
what you read in the Bible
00:43:22.60\00:43:24.77
but just from the fossil record,
00:43:24.77\00:43:27.00
that prior to the flood,
00:43:27.00\00:43:29.14
that there was an envelope
of water, vapor or something,
00:43:29.14\00:43:33.31
that sorta
surrounded the whole planet
00:43:33.31\00:43:35.91
that polarized the rays
00:43:35.91\00:43:37.15
and gave an even
temperature around the planet.
00:43:37.15\00:43:39.65
"Cause even in, what do
you call it, Antarctica,
00:43:39.65\00:43:42.82
up in Siberia, they
find fossils of ferns,
00:43:42.82\00:43:47.16
which usually grow
in a tropical climate.
00:43:47.16\00:43:49.72
So, the whole world was
changed after the flood,
00:43:49.72\00:43:53.09
and it didn't
rain like it does now.
00:43:53.09\00:43:55.23
I think there was
just moisture and mist
00:43:55.23\00:43:57.23
that kind of
irrigated and watered things.
00:43:57.23\00:44:01.10
- All right, well,
thank you, Richard.
00:44:01.10\00:44:02.34
We've got Pat
listening in Arizona.
00:44:02.34\00:44:04.34
Pat, welcome to the program.
00:44:04.34\00:44:06.51
- [Pat] Thank you.
00:44:06.51\00:44:08.31
- Thank you, Pat.
00:44:08.31\00:44:09.24
- [Pat] My question
is, is gambling a sin?
00:44:10.35\00:44:14.15
- Well, first of
all, the Bible says,
00:44:15.22\00:44:16.32
"Do not make haste to be rich,
00:44:16.32\00:44:18.32
and he that
makes haste to be rich
00:44:18.32\00:44:19.79
will not be without guilt."
00:44:19.79\00:44:23.29
And so, the idea of getting
rich quick by playing numbers,
00:44:23.29\00:44:27.56
first of all, 99.9% of the
people that do that lose money
00:44:27.56\00:44:32.60
'cause the whole system is
set up where the house wins.
00:44:34.37\00:44:37.91
And it's anything
that becomes an addiction,
00:44:37.91\00:44:40.71
christians should avoid.
00:44:40.71\00:44:42.08
There are people who actually
become addicted to gambling
00:44:42.08\00:44:44.51
and it destroys their
lives, and they can't stop,
00:44:44.51\00:44:47.18
it's like a psychosis.
00:44:47.18\00:44:49.18
And I remember doing a
meeting in another country,
00:44:50.49\00:44:51.82
and a lady came up to me
just sobbing, and she says,
00:44:51.82\00:44:56.02
"I'm addicted to gambling
and I've mortgaged my home,
00:44:56.02\00:45:00.46
I've run up our credit cards,
00:45:00.46\00:45:01.80
my husband's getting ready
to leave me, and I can't stop."
00:45:01.80\00:45:04.43
And even before I got
done counseling, she says,
00:45:04.43\00:45:06.57
"But there's this one more race
00:45:06.57\00:45:08.54
and I think if I win that
race I can win it all back."
00:45:08.54\00:45:11.07
And I couldn't believe she
was thinking about the next bet,
00:45:11.07\00:45:15.81
even as we talked.
00:45:15.81\00:45:17.51
- Well, there's
another aspect of gambling
00:45:17.51\00:45:18.88
that we need to bear
in mind as a Christian is,
00:45:18.88\00:45:21.12
if you do get
lucky and you do win,
00:45:21.12\00:45:23.72
you're winning at a lot
of other people's losing.
00:45:23.72\00:45:27.22
So, you're winning
because of others misfortune,
00:45:27.22\00:45:30.06
so you're really taking
advantage of other people.
00:45:30.06\00:45:32.33
- Same thing with the lottery.
00:45:32.33\00:45:33.66
- Right. - Yeah.
00:45:33.66\00:45:34.60
So, yeah, and it's interesting,
00:45:35.40\00:45:38.33
you study the history of
people that have won the lottery
00:45:38.33\00:45:40.37
and most of them
don't do very well,
00:45:40.37\00:45:41.97
if you look what happens
in the next couple years.
00:45:41.97\00:45:43.47
- The money
disappears real quick.
00:45:43.47\00:45:44.44
- Some even get murdered.
00:45:44.44\00:45:45.37
- Yeah.
00:45:45.37\00:45:46.21
- It's not good.
00:45:46.21\00:45:47.51
- All right,
thanks your call, Pat.
00:45:47.51\00:45:48.51
We got Glen listening in Ohio.
00:45:48.51\00:45:50.25
Glen, welcome to the program.
00:45:50.25\00:45:51.75
- [Glen] Evening,
(indistinct) thank you very much
00:45:52.98\00:45:54.32
for taking my call.
00:45:54.32\00:45:56.48
(indistinct) concerns
misquoting of the scripture,
00:45:56.48\00:45:59.62
second Corinthians five, eight.
00:45:59.62\00:46:01.82
And I think it has (indistinct)
implications right there,
00:46:03.12\00:46:05.33
most people say that Paul said,
00:46:05.33\00:46:06.90
"To be absent from the body
is to be present with the Lord."
00:46:06.90\00:46:10.40
And that's not what that
says that, people misquote it.
00:46:10.40\00:46:13.13
Can you help me understand what
the proper understanding is?
00:46:13.13\00:46:18.01
- Yeah, we'll do our best.
00:46:18.01\00:46:19.11
All right, so our friends,
00:46:19.11\00:46:20.48
if you wanna go to
second Corinthians five, eight,
00:46:20.48\00:46:23.01
and this is often quoted when
it talks about people dying.
00:46:23.01\00:46:26.21
And Paul says, and
we'll start with verse eight,
00:46:27.35\00:46:31.45
"Yes, we are confident,
00:46:31.45\00:46:32.82
Yes, well pleased rather
to be absent from the body
00:46:32.82\00:46:35.26
and to be
present with the Lord."
00:46:35.26\00:46:36.83
And then you
need to read on here.
00:46:36.83\00:46:38.69
It says,
"Therefore we make it our aim,
00:46:38.69\00:46:40.50
whether present or absent,
to be well pleasing to Him.
00:46:40.50\00:46:44.33
For we must all appear before
the judgment seat of Christ,
00:46:44.33\00:46:47.44
that each one of us
might receive the things
00:46:47.44\00:46:49.34
done in the body,
according to what he's done,
00:46:49.34\00:46:51.14
whether good or bad."
00:46:51.14\00:46:53.11
And so, Paul, earlier
in that passage he says,
00:46:53.11\00:46:58.18
"'Cause I'm kind of in a
quandary between two things,"
00:46:59.48\00:47:03.52
he said, "On one hand," he says,
00:47:04.65\00:47:06.29
"I'd love to depart
and be with the Lord."
00:47:06.29\00:47:08.56
Meaning when a Christian dies
00:47:08.56\00:47:10.93
their next conscious thought
is gonna be the resurrection
00:47:10.93\00:47:13.23
and the presence of the Lord.
00:47:13.23\00:47:14.73
But Paul said, "It's needful
for you that I stay here."
00:47:14.73\00:47:18.50
Well, it is true that if we die
00:47:18.50\00:47:21.30
and these bodies turn back
to dust, the Bible's very clear.
00:47:21.30\00:47:24.81
And for the believer their
next conscious thought it's,
00:47:24.81\00:47:28.34
there's no sensation of time
00:47:28.34\00:47:29.91
is to be the
presence of the Lord,
00:47:29.91\00:47:32.11
but it doesn't happen
until there's a judgment
00:47:32.11\00:47:33.82
and a resurrection.
00:47:33.82\00:47:35.18
- And it also says Paul was
a prophet, so he had visions.
00:47:35.18\00:47:38.22
In another place he
actually talks about
00:47:38.22\00:47:40.39
seeing something
in vision and he says,
00:47:40.39\00:47:42.06
"Whether I was absent
from the body or in the body,
00:47:42.06\00:47:44.49
I can't quite remember,"
and then he tells the story.
00:47:44.49\00:47:47.60
So, Paul was at
times taken off in vision,
00:47:47.60\00:47:50.67
that would be
considered absent from the body,
00:47:50.67\00:47:53.23
but I think here
it's talking about
00:47:53.23\00:47:54.87
when we receive our reward
00:47:54.87\00:47:56.77
it's at the
second coming of Christ,
00:47:56.77\00:47:58.41
and we get
these immortal bodies,
00:47:58.41\00:48:00.84
and we get to live with Him.
00:48:00.84\00:48:03.04
- First verse in chapter five,
00:48:03.04\00:48:04.58
"For we know that
if our earthly house,
00:48:04.58\00:48:06.21
this tent, is destroyed..."
00:48:06.21\00:48:07.52
- [Pastor Ross] Yeah
- That's pretty clear,
00:48:07.52\00:48:08.62
he's talking about the
body, when you're dead.
00:48:08.62\00:48:10.72
- [Pastor Ross] Right, right.
00:48:10.72\00:48:11.52
- Yeah, so thank you, Richard.
00:48:11.52\00:48:12.89
- Thank you.
00:48:12.89\00:48:13.92
We've got Yvonne
listening from Mexico.
00:48:13.92\00:48:18.33
Yvonne, welcome to the program.
00:48:18.33\00:48:19.96
- [Yvonne] Hello.
00:48:21.10\00:48:22.36
- Hi.
00:48:22.36\00:48:23.43
- [Yvonne] It's an
honor to talk to you,
00:48:23.43\00:48:25.90
since I talked to you
first in a long time ago,
00:48:25.90\00:48:29.47
but you might not remember me.
00:48:29.47\00:48:32.64
- Well, thank you for
calling the again, Yvonne.
00:48:32.64\00:48:34.78
- [Yvonne] By the way,
I'm not that Mexican at all,
00:48:34.78\00:48:37.11
I'm Espagnole-Irish, and
that's my question about it.
00:48:37.11\00:48:40.52
As (indistinct)
Irish descendant,
00:48:41.62\00:48:44.82
can we celebrate
St, Patrick's day?
00:48:44.82\00:48:47.92
My family too is Irish.
00:48:47.92\00:48:49.52
- So, there's no
scripture that tells us
00:48:50.63\00:48:53.86
there's anything sacred
about St. Patrick's day,
00:48:53.86\00:48:56.77
and I'm sure that if Patrick,
Patrick was a very godly man,
00:48:56.77\00:49:00.94
he was actually a Protestant
00:49:00.94\00:49:02.00
and it's interesting
that the Catholics made
00:49:02.00\00:49:04.44
Patrick a Saint,
and he was a Protestant.
00:49:04.44\00:49:08.08
And Patrick was
also a Sabbath keeper,
00:49:08.08\00:49:09.88
some people don't know that
he kept the seventh day Sabbath
00:49:09.88\00:49:13.45
but nowhere are we told to
worship saints in the Bible.
00:49:13.45\00:49:18.52
And so, sometimes for fun in
North America it's a tradition,
00:49:19.85\00:49:23.59
you'll wear a green tie
00:49:23.59\00:49:24.86
and people say
it's St. Patrick's day,
00:49:24.86\00:49:26.49
and so to just to commiserate
with our Irish friends,
00:49:26.49\00:49:30.43
and my family's part Irish,
my brother had flaming red hair.
00:49:30.43\00:49:34.30
But we'll wear something
green on St. Patrick's day,
00:49:34.30\00:49:37.77
but I wouldn't worship it
as far as a spiritual holiday.
00:49:37.77\00:49:42.84
So, hope that
helps a little bit.
00:49:43.88\00:49:45.15
Thank you, Yvonne,
appreciate your question.
00:49:45.15\00:49:47.02
- All right, we've got
Anita listening from Maryland.
00:49:47.02\00:49:49.52
Anita, welcome to the program.
00:49:49.52\00:49:51.82
- [Anita] Hi,
how are you, pastor?
00:49:51.82\00:49:53.76
- Yeah.
00:49:53.76\00:49:54.82
- [Anita] Can you hear me?
00:49:54.82\00:49:55.76
- We can.
00:49:55.76\00:49:57.03
- [Anita] Okay, today
is the third anniversary
00:49:57.03\00:50:01.76
of my 18 year old's death,
00:50:01.76\00:50:03.97
we didn't know till he died
00:50:03.97\00:50:05.87
that somebody was
giving him medical marijuana.
00:50:05.87\00:50:08.97
He was acting very aggressive
and violent towards us,
00:50:10.27\00:50:13.11
his personality totally changed.
00:50:13.11\00:50:15.08
I called him at
work, made a big mistake,
00:50:16.18\00:50:18.35
not knowing
much about marijuana,
00:50:18.35\00:50:19.95
thinking it's a harmless drug,
00:50:19.95\00:50:21.68
like everyone else
I was totally wrong.
00:50:21.68\00:50:24.25
He actually, after work,
00:50:24.25\00:50:26.92
after I called him
and I yelled at him,
00:50:26.92\00:50:29.82
instead of coming straight home
00:50:29.82\00:50:31.03
he used all the marijuana he had
00:50:31.03\00:50:33.26
'cause he knew mom and dad
are gonna take everything away.
00:50:33.26\00:50:36.53
He had a psychosis,
00:50:36.53\00:50:38.63
crashed his car into
a tree near our house,
00:50:38.63\00:50:41.74
survived that crash,
00:50:41.74\00:50:43.04
walked out onto I95 and
was run over and killed.
00:50:44.27\00:50:47.51
He was hit, the
first person that hit him,
00:50:47.51\00:50:50.78
the first car was a 28-year-old
with a history of DUI,
00:50:50.78\00:50:55.02
marijuana drunk driving.
00:50:55.02\00:50:56.28
So, my question
is kind of loaded.
00:50:56.28\00:50:58.65
I feel extremely guilty
'cause I caused his death
00:51:00.19\00:51:04.29
and plus Aaron
wasn't was not baptized,
00:51:05.36\00:51:09.93
so I kind of I'm wondering,
00:51:09.93\00:51:13.00
is there a chance
that he could be in heaven
00:51:13.00\00:51:15.47
and will I be
forgiven for what I did?
00:51:15.47\00:51:17.84
- All right, let's
start with the second part
00:51:19.11\00:51:20.61
of that question.
00:51:20.61\00:51:21.94
First of all, you know
our hearts go out to you.
00:51:21.94\00:51:24.28
That's a heartbreaking,
00:51:25.55\00:51:26.92
that's one of the worst
things that could happen,
00:51:26.92\00:51:28.98
is losing a child.
00:51:28.98\00:51:30.39
And my wife and I, we lost
a 21 year old son, years ago,
00:51:30.39\00:51:35.59
and it's just the worst
news that parents can have
00:51:37.13\00:51:40.93
so we empathize with you.
00:51:40.93\00:51:43.33
And then the part of this I
want to deal with, first of all,
00:51:43.33\00:51:47.14
as you said, can I be forgiven.
00:51:47.14\00:51:49.14
Be careful not to
blame yourself for this,
00:51:49.14\00:51:52.74
you were doing probably
what any parent would do,
00:51:52.74\00:51:54.61
you were concerned about
your son's health and wellbeing
00:51:54.61\00:51:57.91
and so you may not
have reacted the way,
00:51:57.91\00:52:00.65
if you could play it over again
you might do it differently,
00:52:00.65\00:52:03.45
but you can't beat
yourself up forever about that
00:52:03.45\00:52:05.62
'cause you certainly had no
intention on doing him harm,
00:52:05.62\00:52:08.09
you were worried about him.
00:52:08.09\00:52:09.82
And the Bible tells us that,
00:52:09.82\00:52:13.80
"Time and chance happens
to all," is what Solomon says.
00:52:13.80\00:52:17.17
So, be careful not to
read too much meaning into it,
00:52:17.17\00:52:20.14
it was an accident.
00:52:20.14\00:52:22.14
And so, there was a
terrible tragic accident,
00:52:22.14\00:52:25.01
and then of course
you're wondering now,
00:52:25.01\00:52:26.64
"What does this mean,
00:52:26.64\00:52:27.74
is there a chance that
I'll see my son again?"
00:52:27.74\00:52:29.98
This is one of those situations
00:52:29.98\00:52:31.35
where you've gotta know
that God is good, God is love,
00:52:31.35\00:52:34.02
and that God loves your son
infinitely more than you do,
00:52:34.02\00:52:38.12
and He will do what is good.
00:52:38.12\00:52:40.66
And so, you just put this
in God's hands and trust Him.
00:52:40.66\00:52:44.23
We, obviously on the program
00:52:44.23\00:52:45.79
we can't put ourselves in
the position of the eternal
00:52:45.79\00:52:48.16
and say we think you
will or won't be saved.
00:52:48.16\00:52:51.13
There's guidelines in
the Bible for following Him
00:52:51.13\00:52:54.34
but I think we're gonna be
surprised when we get to heaven,
00:52:54.34\00:52:56.81
that there were some
exceptions we didn't anticipate.
00:52:56.81\00:53:00.31
And so, the Bible talks
about the second coming of Jesus
00:53:00.31\00:53:04.85
as the blessed hope,
00:53:04.85\00:53:06.15
and so just hang on to
hope and live for the Lord,
00:53:06.15\00:53:09.75
trust that He forgives you.
00:53:09.75\00:53:11.22
God is good and
God is love, Anita.
00:53:11.22\00:53:13.19
And if it's okay,
00:53:13.19\00:53:14.92
Pastor Ross and I'd like to
have a brief prayer with you
00:53:14.92\00:53:18.06
'cause I know that
you and others like you
00:53:18.06\00:53:20.53
have lost children and
your hearts are breaking.
00:53:20.53\00:53:24.70
Loving Lord, we just
pray that you'll be with Anita
00:53:24.70\00:53:27.04
and I pray her
family, her husband,
00:53:27.04\00:53:28.90
and help them just to
heal from this tragedy
00:53:28.90\00:53:32.47
that's touched their lives.
00:53:32.47\00:53:33.78
And I pray through it,
00:53:33.78\00:53:35.14
You've told us that you
can bring good from all things
00:53:35.14\00:53:37.78
that happen to us,
00:53:37.78\00:53:39.01
and that there can be redemption
00:53:39.01\00:53:40.75
that will come from this story.
00:53:40.75\00:53:42.22
And so, be with them
and comfort and bless.
00:53:42.22\00:53:44.19
We pray in Jesus name, amen.
00:53:44.19\00:53:46.96
Appreciate your call, Anita.
00:53:48.22\00:53:49.69
Pastor Ross, yes?
00:53:50.93\00:53:52.39
- We just wanna
let our friends know,
00:53:52.39\00:53:53.66
we got about one minute, pastor,
00:53:53.66\00:53:55.16
I don't think we have
time to take one more call
00:53:55.16\00:53:57.17
but the program is not over,
00:53:57.17\00:53:58.50
because we are
gonna say goodbye to those
00:53:58.50\00:54:00.27
who are joining us
on satellite radio;
00:54:00.27\00:54:02.10
but for the rest of
those who are listening on AFTV
00:54:02.10\00:54:04.81
and land-based radio stations,
00:54:04.81\00:54:07.14
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00:54:07.14\00:54:08.21
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00:54:08.21\00:54:11.71
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00:54:11.71\00:54:13.11
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00:54:13.11\00:54:14.72
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00:54:14.72\00:54:17.02
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00:54:17.02\00:54:19.49
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00:54:19.49\00:54:21.59
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00:54:21.59\00:54:24.26
Matter of fact, I'm
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00:54:24.26\00:54:26.33
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00:54:26.33\00:54:30.17
That's the website, if
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00:54:30.17\00:54:32.20
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00:54:32.20\00:54:34.27
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00:54:34.27\00:54:35.60
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00:54:35.60\00:54:37.81
- Yeah,
sometimes folks, they say,
00:54:37.81\00:54:40.14
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00:54:40.14\00:54:41.51
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00:54:41.51\00:54:43.95
And you can email
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00:54:46.11\00:54:48.52
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00:54:48.52\00:54:51.42
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00:54:51.42\00:54:54.22
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00:54:54.22\00:54:56.02
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00:55:24.29\00:55:25.72
- Hello, friends.
00:55:25.72\00:55:27.09
Welcome back to our special
bonus Bible question segment.
00:55:27.09\00:55:30.26
Pastor Doug, we've
got several questions
00:55:30.26\00:55:31.73
that have been sent in,
00:55:31.73\00:55:33.13
so we are gonna see how
many we can get through tonight.
00:55:33.13\00:55:34.93
First question that we have is,
00:55:34.93\00:55:36.26
does it really help to pray
for somebody else's salvation?
00:55:36.26\00:55:40.24
- Absolutely.
00:55:40.24\00:55:41.04
Now, not after they're gone.
00:55:41.04\00:55:43.47
I mean, some people say,
00:55:43.47\00:55:44.84
"Well, burn a candle and say
a prayer after they're gone."
00:55:44.84\00:55:46.54
The Bible says that,
00:55:46.54\00:55:47.61
"It's appointed
unto man once to die,
00:55:47.61\00:55:49.38
and after that the judgment."
00:55:49.38\00:55:50.68
The Bible says, "Where
there's life there's hope."
00:55:50.68\00:55:53.88
And so, you pray for
their salvation, absolutely.
00:55:53.88\00:55:58.05
Moses interceded
for the whole nation,
00:55:58.05\00:56:00.39
and you got many
cases in the Bible
00:56:00.39\00:56:02.16
where even Jesus said to Peter,
00:56:02.16\00:56:04.79
"I have prayed for you,
that your faith does not fail."
00:56:04.79\00:56:08.06
So, if Jesus prayed for others
00:56:08.06\00:56:09.70
and if Abraham interceded for
Lot, and Moses for the nation,
00:56:09.70\00:56:13.97
we should be
praying for others as well.
00:56:13.97\00:56:16.14
- Okay, next
question that we have,
00:56:16.14\00:56:18.17
what is the
difference between the moral law
00:56:18.17\00:56:20.91
and the ceremonial law?
00:56:20.91\00:56:22.74
- Yeah, a very good question.
00:56:23.75\00:56:25.11
Well, when you say moral law
00:56:25.11\00:56:26.45
that's usually talking
about the 10 commandments,
00:56:26.45\00:56:29.78
which is a
summary of the Law of God.
00:56:29.78\00:56:32.59
Sometimes that's called
the Decalogue, Deca meaning 10,
00:56:32.59\00:56:35.32
that 10
commandments that you would find
00:56:35.32\00:56:37.83
in Exodus chapter 20.
00:56:37.83\00:56:40.80
But when you read in
Deuteronomy chapter four,
00:56:40.80\00:56:44.00
when God gives the 10
commandments, He also tells us,
00:56:44.00\00:56:47.17
and I think it's
in verse 13, it says,
00:56:47.17\00:56:49.37
"God gave me 10 commandments
00:56:49.37\00:56:50.94
which he
commanded us to perform,
00:56:50.94\00:56:52.64
and at that time
the Lord commanded me
00:56:52.64\00:56:56.54
to give you
statutes and judgments."
00:56:56.54\00:56:59.15
So, there were a number of laws
00:56:59.15\00:57:00.75
that revolved around the
sanctuary and its services,
00:57:00.75\00:57:03.79
and its ceremonies, they
are called the ceremonial law.
00:57:03.79\00:57:06.65
Sacrificing lambs, circumcision,
all nailed to the cross.
00:57:06.65\00:57:11.09
- Okay, Another
question that we have,
00:57:11.09\00:57:12.66
how do I
determine the Will of God?
00:57:12.66\00:57:15.66
- Well, I wrote a
little book called
00:57:15.66\00:57:17.53
"determining The Will of
God" You can download for free,
00:57:17.53\00:57:20.00
but I'll give you a
couple of highlights,
00:57:20.00\00:57:21.50
I think I give a
dozen points in the book.
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One is, study the word,
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there's guidance in the word,
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there's guidance through
the Holy Spirit speaking to us,
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you'll hear a voice guiding
you through your conscience.
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Christian counsel,
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look for providential
openings for the Word of God
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and be willing to be
faithful to wait until you know
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if it's a big decision.
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- Okay, last question
that we have here, Pastor Doug.
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If the Jews didn't believe
that Jesus is the Messiah,
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why did they stop
sacrificing lambs?
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- Well, they kinda were forced
to stop sacrificing lambs,
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They did write at the
crucifixion when the veil was
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rent. But then when the
temple was destroyed in 70 A.D,
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that's where they had
brought all their sacrifices
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and God told Moses,
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"Don't do it on your
own, bring it to this place."
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Well, friends, we
really are out of time now.
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We want to thank you for tuning
into "Bible Answers Live",
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look forward to studying His
Word with you again next week.
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"Bible Answers Live",
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honest and accurate
answers to your Bible questions.
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