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- Hi, friends, would you
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In 2015, David Hole
was prospecting for gold
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in Maryborough Regional
Park near Melbourne, Australia.
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As he swept over the
ground with his metal detector,
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it suddenly began to scream.
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There, within some yellow clay,
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he discovered a very
heavy, reddish-brown rock.
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Convinced the rock must
contain a large vein of gold,
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he took it home
and tried everything
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he could to open the rock.
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After all, Maryborough
is the region of Australia
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where someone once
found the largest gold nugget.
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It was called
the Welcome Stranger.
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That was a 173-pound
gold nugget back in 1869.
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So David was very optimistic.
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To break the red
rock, he tried a rock saw.
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That didn't work.
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He tried an angle grinder.
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That did nothing.
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He tried a sharp drill, nothing.
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Even dousing the thing in acid.
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However, not even a sledgehammer
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could make the slightest crack.
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Finally, the rock sat around,
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but in 2021, David
brought his mystery rock
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to the Melbourne Museum,
where geologist, Henry Dermot,
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told him the 37-pound
rock contained no gold.
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That's because it
was actually a very rare
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and very hard
iron-nickel alloy meteorite,
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only the second
one that he had seen
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come to the museum in 37 years,
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in many way, making
this more valuable than gold.
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They were finally
able to cut a sample
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of the stone with a diamond saw
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and confirmed that it was
a rock that came from space.
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You know Pastor Ross,
it tells us in the Bible
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that sometimes there are
rocks that come from space.
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- That's right, Pastor Doug,
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and of course, we're
talking about meteor,
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and there's some
wonderful stories,
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fascinating
stories about meteors
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that have struck the Earth,
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and I remember reading one.
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I think it was an Amazing
Facts you did, Pastor Doug,
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about a meteor a lot
smaller than this one
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that came through a guy's roof
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and landed on his
couch right next to him.
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I forget the details,
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but that was quite
an incredible story.
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But here, you have a
rock that came from space,
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and they didn't
quite understand its value
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or didn't know
where it came from.
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And for a while, it
was sort of set aside
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until it was
taken to the museum,
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and they were able to
do further explorations.
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Well, of course, that reminds us
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of what the Bible says
about a rock that was set aside,
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and it was a stumbling
rock, the Bible refers to,
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but it was a
rock of immense value.
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- That's right, you
can read in Psalm 118:22.
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It tells us the stone
that the builders rejected
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has become the
chief cornerstone.
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And matter of fact,
it's referred to about seven
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or eight times in the Bible,
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that one verse in Psalm 118.
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Jesus says in Matthew 21:
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"He said to them, 'Have
you not read in the Scriptures,
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the stone that
the builders rejected
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has become the
chief cornerstone?'
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This was the Lord's doing,
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and it's marvelous in our eyes."
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Now, Jesus, when He quotes this,
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it's referring to
a story in the Bible
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when Solomon was
building the temple,
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and that all the stones
were cut at a quarry separately,
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and they were
precisely measured,
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and then they were
brought to the building site.
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That was a different location.
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And the cornerstone, because
part of it sat on the bedrock,
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and it was exposed
to a downhill slope,
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it was an odd shape.
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It was square on some edges,
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but it was matching up the
rock bed on the other edge.
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And they set it right in
the middle of the building site,
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hoping that they'd
recognize the whole building
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was gonna be set by this.
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If you do masonwork, you
know that your first stone
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in your first row of bricks,
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it has to be straight or
everything else is crooked.
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Well, they kept stumbling
over it and tripping over it.
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They finally
rolled it down the hill
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into the Kidron Valley.
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And then when they kept
trying to find the right stone
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to fit the corner, they realized
they had taken the stone
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that had been
sent from the quarry
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and rolled it down the hill.
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And they brought it back up,
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and it fit perfectly.
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And this became an allegory
of what the Jewish nation
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did when their Messiah came.
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They didn't realize the stone
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that had been
prepared to save the world
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that they had tripped over it,
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they stumbled over it.
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And that stone is Christ.
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The Bible tells us that
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we are to build on
the cornerstone of Jesus
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and His teachings.
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Christ said,
"These Words of Mine,
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they are the rock
upon which we build.
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Wise men builds on that rock."
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And even in the Book of Daniel,
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Christ is compared to a stone,
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because it's that stone
that comes from the Heaven,
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like a meteorite
that pulverizes all
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the pagan
religions of the world,
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and it grows
into a great mountain.
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Several prophecies
that talked about these,
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Bible meteors or stones.
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- That's right, matter of fact,
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there's a prophecy in
Revelation, Pastor Doug,
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that talks about the
falling of the stars.
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It's one of the signs
also of the Coming of Christ.
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But the Rock that you
read about in the Bible,
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I was just
thinking as you were talking
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about the rock
representing Jesus,
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we also find Paul
referring to the rock
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from which water
came during the wilderness
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wondering of Israel as
being a type of Christ.
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- [Doug] That's
right, another example.
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- So Christ is the rock
that brings forth living water.
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Dear Father, once again,
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at the beginning of a
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It's Glenn listening from Ohio.
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Glenn, you're on
"Bible Answers Live".
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- [Glenn] As we
approach the end of this age,
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in the Book of
Revelation, the prophecies there
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begin assuring
themselves and fulfilling.
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There's one set of sevens
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that I know nothing about.
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And I don't know if
anybody knows anything about it.
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And I had a
curiosity of where the people
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stand on the seven
thunders of Revelation 10.
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- Well, it says right there,
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and you read about
this in Revelation 10:3-4:
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"And he cried with a loud voice
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when as when a lion roars,
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and when he cried
out the seven thunders
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uttered their voices.
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Now, when the seven
thunders uttered their voices,
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I was about to write,
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but I heard a voice
from Heaven saying to me,
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'Seal up the things which
the seven thunders uttered
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and do not write them.'"
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So this was something
that, at least for John,
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he was told that it was
to be sealed or not revealed.
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Now, I think there's
even in the Book of Daniel
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talks about seal up the
book until the time at the end,
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but at the time of the
end, it would be unsealed.
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So there's been a
lot of speculation
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about what these
seven thunders were.
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- Yeah, the Bible doesn't
tell us for sure what they are.
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But what is
interesting is that Daniel
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would receive this in vision
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only to have a
message from Heaven,
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the voice from
Heaven say, "Seal this up."
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And we assume that's
the voice of God saying,
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"Don't write this down."
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So why would God reveal
something to the prophet,
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and then say, "Oh,
now, don't write that down."
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Unless there's
something revealed
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that's not perceived at first.
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And if you look at
all of Revelation 7,
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it really
describes an experience
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of the early advent
believers in the early 1800s
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that based on their
study of the Book of Daniel
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came to a conclusion that Jesus
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was coming at the end of the
2,300-day prophecy around 1844.
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They did the math correctly,
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but they
misunderstood the event.
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They thought the sanctuary
being cleansed was the earth.
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And so there
was a mystery there.
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There was something that
was not fully understood,
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and some have seen
in the seven thunders
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sort of a
parallel of that experience
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where something's revealed,
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but it's not completely
understood until the event
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passes. - [Doug] Yep.
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- So maybe there'll be a
clear understanding of this
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as certain events begin to
take place as we near the end.
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- Yeah, and Jesus
said to the disciples,
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He said, "There's many
things I have to say to you now,
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but you're not
able to bear them."
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So there was truth.
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And He said, "It's too
soon for me to tell you this."
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- Right.
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- And things were revealed
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as they were able to handle it.
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We've got Anthony
listening in New York.
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Anthony, you're on
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- [Anthony] Yes,
good evening, pastors.
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My question, I have two
Bible verses for my question.
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The first one is Revelation 4:8.
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It says, "And the four
beasts had each of them,
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six wings about him,
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and they were
full of eyes within."
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And this is the
part I hone in on:
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"And they rest not
day and night saying,
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'Holy, holy, holy Lord,
God Almighty, which was,
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and is, and is to come.'"
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And then I look
in Revelation 8:1.
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And at the opening of
the seventh seal, it says,
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"And when he had
opened the seventh seal,
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there was silence in Heaven
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about the space
of half an hour."
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So I was just wondering
how that works together?
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Is there something
that causes those angels
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to pause from saying, "Holy,
holy, holy," day and night
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for that space of half an hour?
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And then even what is that
half an hour in heavenly time?
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- Yeah, well, there's an
exception here obviously.
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When there's silence in Heaven,
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that would lead us to
believe that Heaven is vacated.
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Now, when will
Heaven be vacated?
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What it says, when Christ comes,
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all the holy
angels come with Him.
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So if all of the
angels have come with Christ,
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and Christ is coming in
the glory of the Father,
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then this
reveals that time period.
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Now, in Bible
prophecy, a day is a year.
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And so some have wondered,
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well, if it's talking
about silence in Heaven
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for the space
about half an hour,
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one hour is 1/24 of a
day, which would be 15 days.
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about half of 15 is 7.
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So it's telling us that
there's a seven-day period
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when the heavenly
staff, they come to redeem.
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Jesus sends His angels
to gather together as elect,
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and we're called
up to meet Him there.
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And there's this procession,
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He may take us on a
tour through the galaxies
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on our way to
Heaven, we're not sure,
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but that's why I think
there's silence in Heaven.
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- All the focus of the
universe really at the time
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is what's happening with Christ
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coming at the Second
Coming with all the angels.
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And so that's the emphasis.
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But I think for the
most part, Pastor Doug,
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the reference in Revelation 4
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that talks about these
four living creatures saying,
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"Holy, holy, holy," that is
the case as God does something,
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or reveals His
glory, or acts in history,
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the response of the
angels is, "Holy, holy, holy,"
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in the presence of God.
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So yes, that's forever and ever.
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That's general terms.
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- Yeah. - But there's a little
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exception here, and
that's that silence in Heaven
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about a half an hour.
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- Yep, you also
find in Isaiah 6,
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those seraphim
around the throne of God
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are saying, "Holy, holy, holy."
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So I think
Revelation is borrowing from
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or referring back
to Isaiah's experience.
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Hey, thank you,
Anthony, good question.
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- Alright, we have
Harold listening in Illinois.
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Harold, welcome to the program.
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- [Harold] Alright,
thanks for taking my call.
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- Yeah.
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- [Harold] So what
kinda led me to Christ
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to some extent was
understanding John,
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where He says,
"Before Abraham was, I am."
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I'm trying to understand
the interaction between Jesus
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and the Jews when
He says, "Your father-"
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when Jesus says to the Jews,
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"Your father, Abraham, rejoiced
that he would see my day.
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He saw it and was glad."
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This is in John 8:56.
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What is he referring
to, "He would see My day"?
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- Well, God revealed
many things to Abraham.
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Abraham was called a prophet.
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And I think that
Abraham saw the day of Christ,
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in other words, the Coming
of Christ is our sacrifice,
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most clearly when
he had the experience
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of offering his son on
the Mountains of Moriah.
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And God said, "Don't
bring the knife down.
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Don't sacrifice your
son, this was a test,
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and it was also a
living demonstration
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in that you are
willing to offer your son.
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I'm gonna be offering My Son."
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See what Abraham said to Isaac
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when Isaac said,
"Where's the lamb?"
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He said, "We got the
wood, we got the fire,
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where's the lamb?"
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And Abraham said, "My son,
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God will provide
Himself a sacrifice."
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Abraham saw the
Messiah's Coming.
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I think it was revealed to
him that God would send His Son.
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So I think Jesus
is referring to that.
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Abraham was looking
forward to that promised Son
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of which Isaac was a type
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that would save
the world from sin.
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- And we do have a book
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that talks about this
great cost of the cross.
00:14:54.09\00:14:56.42
And that's what it's
called, "The Cost of the Cross",
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that talks about
Christ, and His sacrifice,
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and how, even in
the Old Testament,
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it was revealed in shadows
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and types through the sacrifice,
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and through the
sanctuary service.
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We'll be happy to
make that available
00:15:07.14\00:15:08.34
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:15:08.34\00:15:09.84
The number is 800-835-6747.
00:15:09.84\00:15:13.41
That is our free offer
line. You can ask for the book.
00:15:13.41\00:15:15.78
It's called "The
High Cost of the Cross".
00:15:15.78\00:15:17.78
We'll be happy to send it
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:15:17.78\00:15:20.78
Well, thank you, Harold.
00:15:20.78\00:15:22.05
We've got Lindsey
listening from also Idaho.
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Lindsey, welcome to the program.
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- [Lindsey] Hi, thank
you for taking my call.
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My question is I am wondering
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what does the Bible say
about praying for others
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more so that are unbelievers?
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- Well, there's
no question the Bible
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tells us to pray and
intercede for others,
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and the ones who
would need it most
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would be the ones
who, they're weak in faith,
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or they don't have faith.
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Moses went up the mountain
to intercede for God's people,
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even after they
had gone into paganism
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and worshiped a golden calf.
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So they would qualify as people
in a lost condition there.
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It says that they had a party,
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and they were unclothed.
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So it turned into
kind of a debauched orgy
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or something after the
golden calf experience.
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So Moses went up and
he interceded for them,
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and God heard his prayer,
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and He gave the
people another chance,
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and showed them mercy.
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You see, many times when
Moses interceded for the people.
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Abraham interceded for Lot.
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He actually interceded
for the people of Sodom
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and Gomorrah as
well in praying for Lot.
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And one time, God
heard Abraham, and Lot was,
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and Sodom and
Gomorrah were spared
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when he rescued
them from the Syrians
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that had invaded from the North.
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And then you go
through the New Testament,
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and Bible talks about many
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examples of
prayer and intercession.
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- You know it's
almost like in one sense,
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the Bible reveals to
us a great controversy
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between the forces of
good and the forces of evil.
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And it seems that
intercessory prayer
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allows God to do more to try
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and influence a person than
He would do if we didn't pray.
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And I kind of imagine
that if God, of course,
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God wants to save as many
people as He possibly can,
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but there's certain
rules, you might say,
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in this great controversy,
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there are things that God
won't allow the devil to do.
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And God being a God of justice
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restricts His
influence to some degree.
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But when somebody intercedes
on behalf of somebody else,
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it almost gives
God the right to say,
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"Let me do more
because this person
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is praying specifically
for that individual."
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That doesn't mean that
they don't have free will.
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Of course,
people can still choose.
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But that's why we
find intercessory prayers
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so prominent in the Bible.
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Jesus prayed for His disciples.
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Disciples prayed for others.
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Christians throughout
Christian history have prayed
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and interceded for others.
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So there's great value
in intercessory prayer.
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How many parents have
prayed for their children?
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And I know, Pastor
Doug, we've seen examples
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of a godly mother who
has prayed for a wayward son,
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and she might even pass away.
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And after her death, her
son comes to accept Christ.
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She doesn't see the
fruit of her prayers,
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at least in this life,
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but there's power
in intercessory prayer.
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- Absolutely.
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- We have a book.
00:18:14.69\00:18:15.49
It's called "Teach Us to Pray".
00:18:15.49\00:18:16.86
And we'll be happy to
send this to anyone who asks.
00:18:16.86\00:18:19.16
The number is 800-835-6747.
00:18:19.16\00:18:22.36
And again, you
can ask for the book.
00:18:22.36\00:18:24.23
It's called "Teach Us to Pray".
00:18:24.23\00:18:26.17
Danny's listening in Arizona.
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Danny, welcome to the program.
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- [Danny] So my question
comes from Matthew 14:29
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when Jesus walks on water.
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So Peter comes off,
and he also walks on water.
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Jesus tells him to come.
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And so he's actually walking.
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So I imagine that
his faith is actually
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allowing him to do that.
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But when he starts to sink,
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was it his lack of faith?
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Or was it also his
focus that drove him down
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to the water?
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- I think that
you're on target with both.
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I think that he
changed his focus.
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It says that he
was looking at Christ
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and walking on the water,
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but then he saw the wind
and the waves were boisterous.
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In other words, he
took his eyes off of Christ.
00:19:08.81\00:19:10.91
When his focus
changed, his faith changed,
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which is just a
very, very important point
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for every believer that if we
take our eyes off the solution
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and focus on the problem,
we can become discouraged.
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The reason that David
was able to defeat Goliath
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is he said, "You
come, you got a sword,
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and a spear, and a shield."
00:19:29.33\00:19:30.37
He had his helmet and his armor.
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David said, "But
I'm coming against you
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in the name of the Lord."
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David's focus was on the
answer, which is the Lord,
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not on the problem,
which was the giant.
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And so I think that's
key to the Christian life.
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Don't take your
eyes off the answer
00:19:41.94\00:19:44.08
and just focus on the problem,
00:19:44.08\00:19:45.38
or you'll start thinking,
00:19:45.38\00:19:47.18
it's like those 10 spies
00:19:47.18\00:19:48.28
that went to look
at the promised land,
00:19:48.28\00:19:50.42
and all they saw
was the problems.
00:19:50.42\00:19:52.69
But Joshua and Caleb,
they saw the solution,
00:19:52.69\00:19:55.56
and they made it
to the promised land
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'cause they had faith,
and they had the right focus.
00:19:56.96\00:19:59.89
- [Danny] And the
focus, okay, alright.
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Yeah, that was my question.
00:20:01.66\00:20:02.96
I was like is faith
really that fragile?
00:20:02.96\00:20:07.24
Can it be that
fragile in a person?
00:20:08.27\00:20:09.74
- Yeah, I think it's your faith
00:20:09.74\00:20:13.01
is directly impacted by
where you direct your attention.
00:20:13.01\00:20:18.08
To the strength of the
Lord and trusting the Lord?
00:20:19.38\00:20:20.78
Or you start looking at
your weakness and your problems?
00:20:20.78\00:20:22.92
And it can happen
that quickly, I believe it.
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- Alright, well, thank
you, Danny, for your call.
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We got Joey
listening in Michigan.
00:20:27.82\00:20:29.66
Joey, welcome to the program.
00:20:29.66\00:20:31.93
- [Joey] Oh, hello.
00:20:31.93\00:20:33.06
- Hi.
00:20:33.06\00:20:34.56
- [Joey] Yeah, this is
Joey calling from Michigan.
00:20:34.56\00:20:36.60
We listen to you
on Strong Tower Radio.
00:20:36.60\00:20:38.37
We were just there
from the Christmas party,
00:20:38.37\00:20:40.10
so thank you very
much. - Oh, good, good.
00:20:40.10\00:20:42.30
- [Joey] Yeah,
anyway, I have a question.
00:20:42.30\00:20:43.87
We were reading Kings,
00:20:43.87\00:20:46.17
and this is my
time through the Bible.
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And in 2 Kings, they
talk about Jeroboam a lot,
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about being like kind of the
cookie-cutter for the evil guy
00:20:50.85\00:20:55.82
or whenever- - Yeah.
00:20:56.72\00:20:57.99
- [Joey] They look
for, say, somebody.
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Is that in a way
of Jeroboam is evil?
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I just wonder why
they always go back to him.
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And is there more
than one Jeroboam?
00:21:06.63\00:21:08.70
- Yes, yes, now, there
is more than one Jeroboam,
00:21:10.07\00:21:13.54
and I think there's another king
00:21:13.54\00:21:15.30
that named his son Jeroboam.
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But the Jeroboam
that is the most infamous,
00:21:18.27\00:21:23.01
when the Kingdom
of Israel broke away
00:21:23.01\00:21:25.51
from the Kingdom of Judah,
00:21:25.51\00:21:28.28
the 10 tribes in
the North broke away,
00:21:28.28\00:21:30.19
they picked a new king.
00:21:30.19\00:21:30.99
Instead of the sons of David,
00:21:30.99\00:21:32.42
they said, "We're
gonna pick our own king."
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And Jeroboam is the one
who instigated that rebellion.
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And all would've
been well except he said,
00:21:37.63\00:21:41.00
"I'm afraid now that
the people in my kingdom
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are going to go to
the temple in Judah,"
00:21:43.53\00:21:45.77
which was a Rehoboam's
kingdom, the son of Solomon.
00:21:47.17\00:21:50.81
And he said, "I'm afraid
00:21:50.81\00:21:52.07
they're gonna
start going down there,
00:21:52.07\00:21:53.61
and their hearts are
gonna be drawn back to Judah,
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and they'll lose their loyalty."
00:21:55.74\00:21:57.51
So to prevent them from
needing to go to Jerusalem
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for the feasts, he said,
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"We're gonna set up
altars in Bethel and Dan,
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and he made golden calves,
00:22:04.92\00:22:06.32
which God had
clearly told him not to do.
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They'd already got in
trouble doing that once before.
00:22:08.22\00:22:10.96
And he began to
make people priests
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that were not of the
Levites or the sons of Aaron.
00:22:12.96\00:22:15.96
And the Bible was very
clear that only the Levites
00:22:15.96\00:22:18.40
and the sons of Aaron
were to serve in the temple
00:22:18.40\00:22:20.54
and His priests.
00:22:20.54\00:22:22.20
And he
basically led the kingdom,
00:22:22.20\00:22:24.31
those 10 tribes, into idolatry,
00:22:24.31\00:22:26.78
which is breaking
one of the commandments.
00:22:26.78\00:22:29.01
So from then on, the
Bible talks about Jeroboam,
00:22:29.01\00:22:32.81
the son of Nebat, who
did make Israel to sin.
00:22:32.81\00:22:36.15
He led the whole nation away,
00:22:36.15\00:22:37.32
and it lasted, I guess,
00:22:37.32\00:22:39.42
all the way through the
time of Ahab until they fell.
00:22:39.42\00:22:42.69
So there was, I
believe, another king
00:22:42.69\00:22:45.03
who named his son Jeroboam.
00:22:45.03\00:22:47.66
And there may even be just
someone in the chronologies
00:22:47.66\00:22:50.00
named Jeroboam
that isn't related,
00:22:50.00\00:22:51.73
it wasn't that
uncommon of a name.
00:22:51.73\00:22:54.64
But yeah, that
one infamous king,
00:22:54.64\00:22:57.44
he was a servant to Solomon,
00:22:57.44\00:22:59.07
broke away. -
[Joey] So he kinda started
00:22:59.07\00:22:59.91
a cascade of idolatry.
00:22:59.91\00:23:01.08
- Exactly, yeah,
he set the stage,
00:23:01.08\00:23:03.14
and it just
lasted for generations.
00:23:03.14\00:23:05.45
- [Joey] Okay.
00:23:05.45\00:23:06.25
- So if you look up the phrase,
00:23:06.25\00:23:07.28
Jeroboam who
caused Israel to sin,
00:23:07.28\00:23:09.68
I think that's about 15
times in the Old Testament.
00:23:09.68\00:23:13.12
- [Joey] Okay, very good.
00:23:13.12\00:23:14.79
Well, thank you so much.
00:23:14.79\00:23:15.69
- Thank you.
00:23:15.69\00:23:16.96
- [Joey] Alright,
bye-bye. - Appreciate your
00:23:16.96\00:23:17.49
question, Joey.
00:23:17.49\00:23:18.86
- Alright, we got Smyrna
listening from California.
00:23:18.86\00:23:21.46
Smyrna, welcome to the program.
00:23:21.46\00:23:23.10
- [Smyrna] Hi, good
evening, Pastor Ross,
00:23:24.20\00:23:26.27
Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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It's beautiful to
talk to you this evening.
00:23:27.94\00:23:30.97
And I have a
very special question
00:23:30.97\00:23:33.54
who came out
actually from my 13-year-old.
00:23:33.54\00:23:36.08
He had asked me
what happened to Lazarus
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after he was resurrected
00:23:40.15\00:23:41.55
since we know that he
was the best friend of Jesus?
00:23:41.55\00:23:44.59
So the question is
what happened to him
00:23:45.69\00:23:47.66
after he was resurrected?
00:23:47.66\00:23:49.82
Did he go to
Heaven after Jesus die?
00:23:49.82\00:23:54.30
And he got resurrected,
00:23:54.30\00:23:56.67
and then he was couple days
on earth with his disciples,
00:23:56.67\00:24:01.64
but then he went to
Heaven, we know that.
00:24:02.74\00:24:06.84
So his question is if
Lazarus went with him to Heaven?
00:24:08.14\00:24:11.91
- Alright, good question.
00:24:11.91\00:24:13.31
Now, there are several people
that Jesus, and the apostles,
00:24:13.31\00:24:17.92
and a couple of Old
Testament prophets resurrected,
00:24:17.92\00:24:21.66
Elijah and Elisha, both
resurrected boys that were dead
00:24:21.66\00:24:25.76
in the Old Testament.
00:24:25.76\00:24:27.23
They grew up, and
they lived normal lives,
00:24:27.23\00:24:28.76
and then they died again.
00:24:28.76\00:24:30.33
But they were saved
from a premature death.
00:24:30.33\00:24:33.30
In the New
Testament, Jesus resurrected,
00:24:33.30\00:24:35.54
oh, was it three people?
00:24:35.54\00:24:37.31
He resurrected the
widow's son of Nain.
00:24:37.31\00:24:39.81
He resurrected the
daughter of Jairus,
00:24:39.81\00:24:41.64
and He resurrected Lazarus,
00:24:41.64\00:24:43.11
and then He resurrected Himself.
00:24:43.11\00:24:44.85
He said, "I lay my life
down, I take it up again."
00:24:44.85\00:24:47.42
But the three
people that He resurrected,
00:24:48.55\00:24:50.32
they lived normal lives,
00:24:50.32\00:24:52.02
and then they died again,
00:24:52.02\00:24:53.12
either from sickness,
or accident, or sabotage.
00:24:53.12\00:24:57.73
The Bible tells us
that the religious leaders
00:24:59.56\00:25:02.26
were so
uncomfortable that Lazarus
00:25:02.26\00:25:04.70
was a living
testimony of Jesus's power,
00:25:04.70\00:25:07.30
they even wanted to kill him,
00:25:07.30\00:25:09.10
but there's no record
that they did kill him.
00:25:09.10\00:25:10.91
They were just
threatened by him.
00:25:10.91\00:25:12.71
But as far as we know,
Lazarus did not go to Heaven.
00:25:12.71\00:25:16.31
And you might be
thinking of the parable
00:25:16.31\00:25:18.28
of the rich man and Lazarus,
00:25:18.28\00:25:19.65
and Lazarus was
a very common name,
00:25:19.65\00:25:21.98
like the name John,
present company included,
00:25:21.98\00:25:25.99
or Tom or Bob,
they're just very common name.
00:25:27.12\00:25:30.16
And so it's not
unusual that Jesus
00:25:30.16\00:25:32.43
used the word
Lazarus in his parable.
00:25:32.43\00:25:35.20
- Now, there is a
group that was resurrected
00:25:35.20\00:25:37.13
at the time of
Christ's resurrection if you-
00:25:37.13\00:25:38.83
- But Lazarus wasn't dead then.
00:25:38.83\00:25:40.30
- No, he wasn't.
00:25:40.30\00:25:41.67
So you don't think he's
part of the group, right?
00:25:41.67\00:25:42.54
Right, no, not at all. - No.
00:25:42.54\00:25:43.91
- But it does talk about
this group that were resurrected
00:25:43.91\00:25:45.77
at the time of
Christ's Resurrection.
00:25:45.77\00:25:47.58
And it seems as though
they were taken to Heaven
00:25:47.58\00:25:49.41
at the Ascension of
Christ. - [Doug] Yes.
00:25:49.41\00:25:50.41
- But as Pastor Doug points out,
00:25:50.41\00:25:52.08
Lazarus was alive
and well at that time,
00:25:52.08\00:25:55.05
and probably was still involved
00:25:55.05\00:25:57.02
in helping to
provide for his sisters
00:25:57.02\00:25:58.65
at home. - [Doug] Yeah.
00:25:58.65\00:25:59.75
- So we have no record
of him going to Heaven.
00:25:59.75\00:26:01.16
Although, most likely he's
waiting for the Resurrection,
00:26:01.16\00:26:04.46
just like the other saints,
00:26:04.46\00:26:05.56
the other believers are waiting
00:26:05.56\00:26:06.90
for the Second Coming of
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00:26:06.90\00:26:08.93
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00:26:38.63\00:26:39.66
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00:31:10.43\00:31:14.37
Gabriela,
welcome to the program.
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- [Gabriela] So my question is,
00:31:17.07\00:31:19.14
I know the Bible
in 1 Timothy 2:9 says
00:31:19.14\00:31:22.41
that women shouldn't adorn
themselves with gold or pearls.
00:31:22.41\00:31:27.05
So what about, like, gemstones?
00:31:28.92\00:31:32.75
Do those count as jewelry too?
00:31:32.75\00:31:34.52
- Well, the principle
is, and I wanna make clear,
00:31:35.89\00:31:38.29
there's gonna
be plenty of people
00:31:38.29\00:31:39.39
in Heaven that wear jewelry.
00:31:39.39\00:31:41.06
But when you study in the Bible,
00:31:41.06\00:31:43.20
the Bible seems
to encourage that
00:31:43.20\00:31:45.40
we avoid
ornamentation on our bodies.
00:31:45.40\00:31:48.97
When the children of
Israel made the golden calf,
00:31:48.97\00:31:51.81
they made it from their
earrings and their jewels.
00:31:51.81\00:31:54.54
And then afterward, God said,
00:31:54.54\00:31:56.34
"Break off your ornaments."
00:31:56.34\00:31:57.81
So an ornament, it's not
just gonna be gold or pearls.
00:31:57.81\00:32:00.65
It could be silver,
it could be crystals.
00:32:00.65\00:32:02.52
It could be anything.
00:32:02.52\00:32:04.59
So the thing is as soon as
you begin to open the door,
00:32:04.59\00:32:09.66
and what I'm sharing here,
00:32:11.13\00:32:12.13
some people are
shocked in our culture,
00:32:12.13\00:32:13.76
'cause there's whole stores
00:32:13.76\00:32:14.83
that are called
Christian Jewelry.
00:32:14.83\00:32:16.73
But I think as soon as you
open the door for Christians
00:32:16.73\00:32:19.27
to start wearing all kinds
of different bobbles and beads,
00:32:19.27\00:32:23.27
that people, some people
00:32:23.27\00:32:24.41
are insecure
about their appearance,
00:32:24.41\00:32:25.74
and they try to compensate
00:32:25.74\00:32:26.94
by hanging more
valuables on themselves
00:32:26.94\00:32:29.34
and maybe increase
their perceived self-worth.
00:32:29.34\00:32:32.01
And some people
maybe take it too far.
00:32:33.05\00:32:35.95
And so I just think
it's better for Christians
00:32:35.95\00:32:38.39
not to wear jewelry.
00:32:38.39\00:32:40.36
And I know that
when the judgment comes,
00:32:40.36\00:32:43.46
and God is not gonna
stop me at the pearly gates
00:32:43.46\00:32:45.89
and say, "Doug, I
can't let you in."
00:32:45.89\00:32:47.30
"Why not, Lord?"
00:32:47.30\00:32:48.63
"You didn't
wear enough jewelry."
00:32:48.63\00:32:50.27
So I just try not to
create a stumbling block.
00:32:51.67\00:32:53.90
The Bible speaks against...
says, Jacob and his family,
00:32:53.90\00:32:58.11
they buried their jewelry
00:32:58.11\00:32:59.37
when they went to
meet with the Lord.
00:32:59.37\00:33:01.21
And Isaiah 3 talks about
the proud daughters of Zion.
00:33:01.21\00:33:05.28
And then it begins to
enumerate their articles
00:33:05.28\00:33:07.28
of jewelry that they wear, so.
00:33:07.28\00:33:10.62
And what I'm saying, like
I said, this is not just me.
00:33:10.62\00:33:12.72
This is what you used to hear
00:33:12.72\00:33:14.02
from Pentecostals,
Baptists, Methodists,
00:33:14.02\00:33:16.69
they all used to talk about,
00:33:16.69\00:33:18.19
John Wesley wrote
widely about it, said,
00:33:18.19\00:33:20.90
"Well, Christians need to
be careful about their attire,
00:33:20.90\00:33:23.20
not just golden
jewelries, it's modesty."
00:33:23.20\00:33:26.50
And in our culture
today, men and women,
00:33:26.50\00:33:29.57
often dress in a
very provocative way,
00:33:29.57\00:33:31.51
and Bible's clear that we
should be modest in our apparel.
00:33:31.51\00:33:36.14
- We do have a book
that deals with jewelry.
00:33:36.14\00:33:38.58
It's called "Jewelry:
How Much Is Too Much?"
00:33:38.58\00:33:40.78
This is a common question
that we get, Pastor Doug,
00:33:40.78\00:33:42.48
so we have some
Bible resources on that.
00:33:42.48\00:33:44.92
If you'd like to learn
more about the subject,
00:33:44.92\00:33:46.76
call 800-835-6747,
you can ask for the book,
00:33:46.76\00:33:50.49
it's called "Jewelry:
How Much Is Too Much?"
00:33:50.49\00:33:52.96
Pastor Doug,
talking about jewelry,
00:33:52.96\00:33:54.96
we know of some fairly
well-known televangelists,
00:33:54.96\00:33:58.67
who were on TV,
00:33:58.67\00:33:59.87
and one of the criticisms
00:33:59.87\00:34:01.77
that came against
these televangelists
00:34:01.77\00:34:04.04
was just the amount of jewelry
00:34:04.04\00:34:05.71
that they wear, both
them and their wives,
00:34:05.71\00:34:07.54
but very expensive
necklaces, and bracelets,
00:34:07.54\00:34:10.51
and rings just
about on every finger.
00:34:10.51\00:34:13.11
It just doesn't set the right.
00:34:13.11\00:34:14.75
- Especially when
they're begging for audience.
00:34:14.75\00:34:16.25
- Yeah, I know. (laughs)
00:34:16.25\00:34:18.02
It doesn't set the right tone.
00:34:18.02\00:34:19.12
You can't
imagine Jesus with that.
00:34:19.12\00:34:20.22
- And then you said,
"What would Jesus do?"
00:34:20.22\00:34:21.29
- Yeah. -
Exactly, that's the thing
00:34:21.29\00:34:21.96
is what would Jesus do?
00:34:21.96\00:34:23.29
- Yeah, so alright,
well, thanks for your call.
00:34:23.29\00:34:25.13
We've got Nuke
listening from Minnesota.
00:34:25.13\00:34:28.43
Nuke, welcome to the program.
00:34:28.43\00:34:29.96
- [Nuke] Alright, so
I just had one question.
00:34:31.10\00:34:33.13
So my question was
really based off of a principle
00:34:33.13\00:34:36.37
in the Bible, in Isaiah 28:9-10,
00:34:36.37\00:34:40.54
where the Bible says that,
00:34:40.54\00:34:41.64
"The Lord declared the
end from the beginning."
00:34:41.64\00:34:44.51
And or rather where he said,
00:34:44.51\00:34:46.28
"Precept upon precept,
line upon line, here a little,
00:34:46.28\00:34:48.65
and there a little."
00:34:48.65\00:34:49.75
And then where he says
in Isaiah 46:9-10 that,
00:34:49.75\00:34:53.02
"He declared the
end from the beginning."
00:34:53.02\00:34:55.42
And so when I
look at the beginning,
00:34:55.42\00:34:59.63
when I look at Genesis,
00:34:59.63\00:35:01.26
I see that there's the beast,
00:35:01.26\00:35:05.37
which is the
serpent, there's the woman,
00:35:05.37\00:35:08.40
and then there's
Adam, who was at the time,
00:35:08.40\00:35:10.41
he was the king of the
Earth before he sinned.
00:35:10.41\00:35:13.07
And then we look in Revelation,
00:35:13.07\00:35:15.74
and we see the same thing.
00:35:15.74\00:35:16.85
We see the beast, we
see the harlot woman,
00:35:16.85\00:35:19.98
and then we see
the kings of the Earth
00:35:19.98\00:35:21.55
that committed fornication
with the harlot woman.
00:35:21.55\00:35:25.62
And so the reason
that I emphasize this
00:35:25.62\00:35:27.56
is because I
wanted to see why is it
00:35:27.56\00:35:30.49
that we believe
that in Revelation,
00:35:30.49\00:35:34.60
the harlot woman and the beast,
00:35:34.60\00:35:36.63
they're the same entity
00:35:36.63\00:35:38.27
when in Genesis,
which is the beginning,
00:35:38.27\00:35:41.47
we don't see them
to be the same entity?
00:35:41.47\00:35:43.20
So we see that the
beast and the woman
00:35:43.20\00:35:45.14
are two totally separate,
00:35:45.14\00:35:46.54
two totally separate entities.
00:35:47.34\00:35:49.01
- Okay, now, I hope I
understood your question
00:35:50.11\00:35:53.25
'cause you went from Isaiah
00:35:53.25\00:35:55.92
about God declaring
the end from the beginning
00:35:55.92\00:35:58.55
to Revelation and the beast.
00:35:58.55\00:36:01.12
But let me focus on
the last thing you said.
00:36:01.12\00:36:03.66
How do we know that the beast
and the woman are the same?
00:36:03.66\00:36:06.43
In Revelation, you see
an evolution of the beast.
00:36:06.43\00:36:10.80
So the dragon that
you see with seven heads
00:36:10.80\00:36:13.30
and 10 horns in Revelation
12 is that same Roman power,
00:36:13.30\00:36:17.81
but it goes through a change.
00:36:17.81\00:36:19.21
By the time you
get to Revelation 17,
00:36:19.21\00:36:21.11
where you now see a
woman riding on that beast.
00:36:21.11\00:36:24.71
So there's a confederacy between
this woman and the beast.
00:36:24.71\00:36:28.15
And most Protestant theologians
00:36:28.15\00:36:33.22
believed that the
woman in Revelation 17
00:36:34.29\00:36:36.46
was talking about how the Church
00:36:36.46\00:36:38.53
had co-mingled
Christian teachings
00:36:38.53\00:36:40.96
with the Roman pagan teachings,
00:36:40.96\00:36:42.23
and that's why it's
pictured as a woman there.
00:36:42.23\00:36:44.80
So you see there's sort
of a consolidation of Rome,
00:36:44.80\00:36:47.74
pagan Rome with Christianity,
00:36:47.74\00:36:49.70
which was supposed
to be Christ's bride,
00:36:49.70\00:36:51.34
but she's become unfaithful,
00:36:51.34\00:36:52.61
and she'd become
a political power.
00:36:52.61\00:36:55.01
She's now committing fornication
00:36:55.01\00:36:56.51
with the kings of the earth.
00:36:56.51\00:36:58.05
And so, you see,
00:36:58.05\00:37:00.58
and then you've got
the different beasts
00:37:00.58\00:37:02.05
in Daniel and Revelation.
00:37:02.05\00:37:03.28
So you've got a lot of beasts
00:37:03.28\00:37:04.82
that are evolving
through the Bible,
00:37:04.82\00:37:06.82
culminating with the
final persecuting power.
00:37:06.82\00:37:10.53
- Well, I think to be
consistent with Bible symbolism,
00:37:10.53\00:37:12.73
a beast
represents a political power,
00:37:12.73\00:37:14.73
and a woman
represents the Church.
00:37:14.73\00:37:16.70
What's unique
about Revelation 17,
00:37:16.70\00:37:18.93
you have a woman and a beast.
00:37:18.93\00:37:21.07
So the power that's
described in Revelation 7
00:37:21.07\00:37:23.81
or Revelation 17 is
not only a religious power
00:37:23.81\00:37:26.88
symbolized by the woman,
00:37:26.88\00:37:28.34
but it is also
a political power.
00:37:28.34\00:37:30.51
And if you look at
what this power represents,
00:37:30.51\00:37:33.35
we understand that
to be the papal power,
00:37:33.35\00:37:36.45
the church of Rome.
00:37:36.45\00:37:37.75
Not only is it
clearly a religious power,
00:37:37.75\00:37:40.26
it's the largest
church in the world,
00:37:40.26\00:37:42.12
the largest Christian church,
00:37:42.12\00:37:43.53
but it is also an
independent nation,
00:37:43.53\00:37:45.89
the smallest country in
the world is the Vatican.
00:37:45.89\00:37:48.46
- 109-acre country.
00:37:48.46\00:37:49.86
- That's right.
00:37:49.86\00:37:51.20
So it's a political
power and a religious power.
00:37:51.20\00:37:52.97
- And they do
have a wall around it.
00:37:52.97\00:37:54.64
- They do have a wall
around it. They do (chuckles).
00:37:54.64\00:37:56.77
And they have
ambassadors all over the place.
00:37:56.77\00:37:58.64
They have an ambassador
in United States and the UN.
00:37:58.64\00:38:00.74
So I don't think,
00:38:00.74\00:38:02.01
we're not talking
about the same necessarily.
00:38:02.01\00:38:04.98
We're still
faithful to the symbols.
00:38:04.98\00:38:06.65
We're not
talking about the same.
00:38:06.65\00:38:07.72
It is the same power,
00:38:07.72\00:38:08.98
but it's different
aspects of the same power.
00:38:08.98\00:38:10.92
It's the religious power
represented by the woman,
00:38:10.92\00:38:13.52
the political power
represented by the beast.
00:38:13.52\00:38:16.09
- So hopefully,
that made some sense.
00:38:17.16\00:38:18.89
Nuke, did we
answer your question?
00:38:18.89\00:38:21.10
- [Nuke] Yeah, I can see, I
can see what you guys are saying
00:38:21.10\00:38:23.33
with the political
power and the religious power.
00:38:23.33\00:38:26.13
Looking at it from
Genesis is kinda what the point
00:38:26.13\00:38:29.94
that I was making was
that you had the beast who-
00:38:29.94\00:38:34.34
- You got the serpent and
the woman there in Genesis.
00:38:34.34\00:38:37.15
- [Nuke] Yeah, exactly.
00:38:37.15\00:38:38.18
- Yeah.
00:38:38.18\00:38:39.48
- [Nuke] And so the
serpent enticed the woman
00:38:39.48\00:38:40.28
into taking of that fruit,
00:38:40.28\00:38:42.08
that would've been a
representation of his power.
00:38:42.08\00:38:44.95
And then she enticed the king
of the earth to partake of it.
00:38:44.95\00:38:48.22
- Oh, yeah. -
[Nuke] And with her
00:38:48.22\00:38:49.26
enticing the king of the earth,
00:38:49.26\00:38:51.13
with her enticing
the king of the earth,
00:38:51.13\00:38:52.73
what that did was that
allowed the whole world
00:38:52.73\00:38:54.93
to fall into corruption.
00:38:54.93\00:38:56.00
This very same way
we see in Revelation,
00:38:56.00\00:38:58.57
the beast enticed the woman,
00:38:58.57\00:39:00.04
and the woman,
she corrupts the earth
00:39:00.04\00:39:01.67
with her false
teachings and ideologies.
00:39:01.67\00:39:03.97
- Yep.
00:39:03.97\00:39:04.84
- [Nuke] So
that was the parallel
00:39:04.84\00:39:06.54
that I was trying to make to
see if you guys could see that.
00:39:06.54\00:39:08.81
- Well, there's actually,
you've got a good point there.
00:39:08.81\00:39:10.68
And we have a book that talks
about the beast, the dragon,
00:39:10.68\00:39:13.05
and the woman that makes
some of the same parallels
00:39:13.05\00:39:15.82
that you just
made. - Yeah, absolutely.
00:39:15.82\00:39:16.99
- We'll send him a
free copy. - I think you'll
00:39:16.99\00:39:18.39
really enjoy it. If you'd
like to receive that book,
00:39:18.39\00:39:19.49
just call 800-835-6747.
00:39:19.49\00:39:22.19
You can ask for the book,
00:39:22.19\00:39:23.22
"The Dragon, the
Beast, and the Woman".
00:39:23.22\00:39:24.59
We'll be happy to send it
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:39:24.59\00:39:27.50
It's a fascinating
study, Revelation 17.
00:39:27.50\00:39:30.70
Thanks for your call, Nuke.
00:39:30.70\00:39:31.97
We've got Janet
listening in North Carolina.
00:39:31.97\00:39:33.77
Janet, welcome to the program.
00:39:33.77\00:39:35.34
- [Janet] Good evening, pastors.
00:39:36.40\00:39:37.74
And thank you, and bless
you both for your ministry,
00:39:37.74\00:39:40.68
and taking the time to do this.
00:39:40.68\00:39:42.64
And I just have
to say, Pastor Doug,
00:39:42.64\00:39:45.41
I, seven years ago, I
watched a little online thing
00:39:45.41\00:39:48.42
you did about the Sabbath,
00:39:48.42\00:39:49.55
and you changed and
saved my life, so...
00:39:49.55\00:39:52.19
- Oh, praise the Lord.
00:39:52.19\00:39:53.32
- [Janet] I
can't thank you enough.
00:39:53.32\00:39:54.62
- Praise the Lord.
00:39:54.62\00:39:55.72
Thank you so
much for that, Janet.
00:39:55.72\00:39:56.83
- [Janet] Can't
thank you enough for that.
00:39:56.83\00:39:58.06
- Well, that's why we do it.
00:39:58.06\00:39:59.53
- [Janet] I've been
doing your Bible reading plan,
00:40:00.90\00:40:02.90
and we just
finished up reading Daniel,
00:40:02.90\00:40:05.57
and at the very
end of Daniel 12:11-13,
00:40:05.57\00:40:09.67
it talks about two
other time prophecies that,
00:40:09.67\00:40:13.34
I mean, I learned
about all the other ones
00:40:13.34\00:40:15.14
from all your present truth,
00:40:15.14\00:40:17.25
the 1,260 days, the
2,300 days, the 70 weeks,
00:40:17.25\00:40:20.68
but I'd never heard
anyone talk about these two
00:40:20.68\00:40:23.15
other time prophecies,
00:40:23.15\00:40:24.42
and I was just
wondering what they were about.
00:40:24.42\00:40:27.59
- You've got more time
prophecies in Daniel 12
00:40:27.59\00:40:32.59
than any other
chapter in the Bible.
00:40:32.59\00:40:34.63
It mentions a 1,260-day
period, a 1,290-day period,
00:40:34.63\00:40:39.70
and a 13-hundred
and 35-day period.
00:40:40.90\00:40:42.74
You almost have to draw a
chart for someone on the screen
00:40:45.47\00:40:48.88
and explain what
this is talking about.
00:40:48.88\00:40:52.11
But most of the
prophecies in Daniel
00:40:52.11\00:40:54.25
are talking
about the persecution
00:40:54.25\00:40:55.88
that God's people would
go through during this time,
00:40:55.88\00:40:58.49
this great
persecution of the Dark Ages.
00:40:58.49\00:41:00.89
Jesus refers to this
great time of trouble.
00:41:00.89\00:41:03.53
And the heart of it is
this 1,260-year period,
00:41:03.53\00:41:08.56
which is what you'd call 3
1/2 prophetic years, 1,260 days.
00:41:09.93\00:41:13.84
That's 3 1/2 Jewish years.
00:41:15.87\00:41:18.97
They had 30 days in a month.
00:41:18.97\00:41:20.58
Revelation calls it 42 months.
00:41:20.58\00:41:22.98
And it also talks about the
time periods that led into that
00:41:22.98\00:41:27.35
with the 1,335 and the 1,290.
00:41:27.35\00:41:30.45
Best thing is if
she got that magazine
00:41:30.45\00:41:33.05
on Daniel and Revelation-
00:41:33.05\00:41:34.16
- Yeah. - I
think there's a chart
00:41:34.16\00:41:34.96
in there that explains that.
00:41:34.96\00:41:36.29
- It is, it'll make it
clear. - It's hard to cover that
00:41:36.29\00:41:38.29
in three minutes or so.
00:41:38.29\00:41:40.30
- Yeah, if you're looking
for just a starting point,
00:41:40.30\00:41:42.03
just real quick for those dates.
00:41:42.03\00:41:43.73
The 1,290 begins in 508.
00:41:43.73\00:41:46.97
And the point, the reason
that's specifically mentioned
00:41:46.97\00:41:49.50
is the conversion of
Clovis, king of the Franks,
00:41:49.50\00:41:51.84
and France became the greatest
supporter of the papal power.
00:41:51.84\00:41:54.48
- Holy Roman Empire.
00:41:54.48\00:41:55.68
- Right. - Yep.
00:41:55.68\00:41:57.25
- So that's why that date
is specifically mentioned,
00:41:57.25\00:41:58.31
1,290 will bring you up to 1798
00:41:58.31\00:42:00.88
when the papal power was broken,
00:42:00.88\00:42:02.95
and the pope was
taken a prisoner,
00:42:02.95\00:42:04.35
and they
confiscated the political states
00:42:04.35\00:42:06.39
of the Vatican at the time.
00:42:06.39\00:42:07.79
The 1,335 brings
you right up to 1843,
00:42:07.79\00:42:10.83
which is a significant date
as it relates to the 2,300 days
00:42:10.83\00:42:14.23
and 1844. -
Great Advent Awakening.
00:42:14.23\00:42:16.03
Yeah. - That's right.
00:42:16.03\00:42:17.13
Again, that's
all in the magazine.
00:42:17.13\00:42:18.47
"Daniel and Revelation",
we'll be happy to send that
00:42:18.47\00:42:20.50
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:42:20.50\00:42:22.04
The number for
that is 800-835-6747,
00:42:22.04\00:42:25.94
and ask for the "Daniel
and Revelation" magazine.
00:42:25.94\00:42:28.31
And as we said a little earlier,
00:42:28.31\00:42:29.68
this is not something
that we can offer every week,
00:42:29.68\00:42:31.25
but we're doing it this week,
00:42:31.25\00:42:32.35
so take advantage of
it, you'll be blessed.
00:42:32.35\00:42:35.22
Next caller that
we have is Elijah.
00:42:35.22\00:42:36.58
Elijah
listening from Washington.
00:42:36.58\00:42:38.19
Elijah, welcome to the program.
00:42:38.19\00:42:39.99
- [Elijah] I got a
couple quick questions here.
00:42:39.99\00:42:42.06
The first is about
the Ark of the Covenant.
00:42:42.06\00:42:44.99
We just did a "Bible
Amazing Prophecies" here,
00:42:44.99\00:42:49.63
seminar with Mark
Fox and Yakima Harris.
00:42:49.63\00:42:51.80
But my question is that we know
00:42:51.80\00:42:56.00
that Ark to the
Covenant is in Heaven,
00:42:56.00\00:42:57.77
and the
sanctuary's being cleansed.
00:42:57.77\00:43:00.34
But I was
wondering, I've heard somewhere
00:43:00.34\00:43:01.81
where maybe the
ark might be found,
00:43:01.81\00:43:04.91
the actual Ark of the
Covenant here on Earth
00:43:04.91\00:43:05.75
might be discovered.
00:43:05.75\00:43:06.65
- Alright now, in Revelation,
00:43:09.02\00:43:10.75
and Pastor Ross, I
think it's in Revelation 16,
00:43:10.75\00:43:13.09
where it says,
"I saw Heaven open
00:43:13.09\00:43:14.52
and the Ark of the Covenant."
00:43:14.52\00:43:16.96
- Revelation 11.
00:43:16.96\00:43:18.09
- 11, sorry,
okay, in Revelation 11,
00:43:18.09\00:43:20.30
it does mention the
Ark being seen in Heaven.
00:43:20.30\00:43:22.90
I don't think that
means that God caught the Ark
00:43:22.90\00:43:26.27
that had been captured
or that had been hidden
00:43:26.27\00:43:30.11
by Jeremiah, the prophet.
00:43:30.11\00:43:31.97
I don't think that means that
that was caught up to Heaven.
00:43:31.97\00:43:34.21
I think it's also talks about
00:43:34.21\00:43:35.81
the altar of incense in Heaven.
00:43:35.81\00:43:37.78
- The candlesticks.
00:43:37.78\00:43:38.58
- Yeah, that's all there.
00:43:38.58\00:43:39.65
So those are
symbols of the Sanctuary
00:43:39.65\00:43:41.48
it's taking us through.
00:43:41.48\00:43:42.85
I believe the real Ark of
the Covenant is still on Earth,
00:43:42.85\00:43:45.45
and it's probably hidden
00:43:45.45\00:43:46.49
somewhere in the
vicinity of Jerusalem,
00:43:46.49\00:43:49.29
because before Nebuchadnezzar
destroyed the temple,
00:43:49.29\00:43:52.16
and Jeremiah, the
prophet, clearly forewarned King
00:43:52.16\00:43:56.00
Zedekiah. He said, "The temple's
gonna be burned with fire."
00:43:56.00\00:44:00.04
And they wanted to preserve
their national treasure.
00:44:00.04\00:44:02.87
And Jeremiah with
some of the priests,
00:44:02.87\00:44:04.44
very likely hid it
in one of the many caves
00:44:04.44\00:44:07.74
that honeycombed
the City of Jerusalem.
00:44:07.74\00:44:09.91
So the Babylonians
would not capture it.
00:44:11.91\00:44:13.58
It's never mentioned
from that time onward.
00:44:13.58\00:44:16.22
It's probably still hidden.
00:44:16.22\00:44:17.85
Most of the people that probably
00:44:17.85\00:44:18.92
knew the secret
died except Jeremiah.
00:44:18.92\00:44:21.06
And of course,
he's dead now too.
00:44:21.06\00:44:23.39
So will it be revealed
again before the end of time?
00:44:23.39\00:44:26.36
That'd be a
wonderful archeological,
00:44:26.36\00:44:28.06
it'd be the
greatest archeological
00:44:28.06\00:44:29.93
find. - That's right.
00:44:29.93\00:44:31.30
We thought the discovery
of King Tutankhamun's tomb
00:44:31.30\00:44:34.44
was of significance.
00:44:34.44\00:44:35.77
Could you just
imagine the discovery
00:44:35.77\00:44:37.44
of the Ark of the
Covenant? - [Doug] Oh, yeah.
00:44:37.44\00:44:38.87
- That'd be spectacular.
00:44:38.87\00:44:40.51
- It'd be a lot easier to
preach the 10 Commandments,
00:44:40.51\00:44:42.41
if that- -
That's right. (chuckles)
00:44:42.41\00:44:44.81
Alright, well, thanks
for your call, Elijah.
00:44:44.81\00:44:46.82
Next one that we have is
Ajota listening from Pittsburgh.
00:44:46.82\00:44:50.89
Ajota, welcome to the program.
00:44:50.89\00:44:52.95
- [Ajota] Listen,
my question is based-
00:44:52.95\00:44:55.32
we're gonna go back into
Genesis, the sixth chapter.
00:44:55.32\00:44:59.06
Now, back when I
was in Oakland College
00:44:59.06\00:45:00.76
with Elder
Cleveland and Dr. Wright,
00:45:00.76\00:45:04.40
these people
that I knew so well,
00:45:04.40\00:45:06.47
there was one
section of Genesis 6
00:45:07.60\00:45:11.31
I've always had
a question about.
00:45:11.31\00:45:14.51
And it deals
with the idea of what
00:45:14.51\00:45:17.38
went into the Ark of Noah.
00:45:17.38\00:45:21.58
Now, we're told
that the two unclean
00:45:21.58\00:45:26.02
and seven pairs
with seven were the clean
00:45:26.02\00:45:28.82
were supposed to
go inside of the ark.
00:45:29.92\00:45:32.03
And the Bible says
there, to me, it's specific.
00:45:32.03\00:45:35.73
It says, "Of what I made."
00:45:35.73\00:45:38.83
And my point would
almost be phrased like this:
00:45:40.44\00:45:43.44
Why isn't there a
Jurassic Park in the ark?
00:45:43.44\00:45:46.37
I believe that dinosaurs
00:45:47.24\00:45:50.01
and all these types of
creatures that were outside
00:45:50.01\00:45:54.35
of the ark were not
creatures that God made.
00:45:54.35\00:45:58.39
And I'm curious if
that line of reasoning
00:45:58.39\00:46:02.22
would sound like something
that should be considered?
00:46:02.22\00:46:06.73
I think that carbon
dating it might be inaccurate.
00:46:06.73\00:46:09.76
I don't believe
that there are creatures
00:46:09.76\00:46:13.30
that were here 30
million years before God said,
00:46:13.30\00:46:17.17
"Let there be light."
00:46:17.17\00:46:18.74
So how do we make the
appearance of these things
00:46:18.74\00:46:23.81
fit the narrative of
what actually went in the ark?
00:46:25.21\00:46:29.35
- Okay, well, first of all,
00:46:29.35\00:46:31.75
the Bible tells
us that God told Noah
00:46:33.36\00:46:35.29
to create the ark so that
it could preserve all life.
00:46:35.29\00:46:40.36
And some people, they
see the giant dinosaur bones.
00:46:41.73\00:46:43.93
I lived across the street from,
00:46:43.93\00:46:45.97
literally across the street
00:46:45.97\00:46:47.20
from the American
Museum of Natural History
00:46:47.20\00:46:48.97
as a kid in New York City,
00:46:48.97\00:46:50.37
and I would go look at
the great, the bone assemblies
00:46:50.37\00:46:53.88
of the triceratops
and the tyrannosaurus rex,
00:46:53.88\00:46:56.14
and the brontosaurus,
and these huge reptiles,
00:46:56.14\00:46:58.51
thunder lizards,
that's a dinosaur.
00:46:58.51\00:47:00.88
And people say,
"How in the world
00:47:00.88\00:47:02.02
are you gonna fit
two of those on the ark?"
00:47:02.02\00:47:04.59
Well, I know that
there are reptiles
00:47:04.59\00:47:08.52
that were
preserved by God on the ark,
00:47:08.52\00:47:10.79
and they believe that
these were just big reptiles.
00:47:10.79\00:47:13.93
So which ones may have
been amalgamated by man
00:47:13.93\00:47:17.33
that were not preserved,
00:47:17.33\00:47:18.63
and which ones were
reptiles that God created
00:47:18.63\00:47:21.10
that just were
large, I mean, alligators?
00:47:21.10\00:47:24.01
They find fossils of alligators
that were 50 feet long.
00:47:24.01\00:47:28.34
Well, maybe that's an
exaggeration, a lot bigger.
00:47:28.34\00:47:30.15
Right now, they
got 'em over 20 feet.
00:47:30.15\00:47:31.91
They had some, yeah,
they maybe 50 feet long,
00:47:31.91\00:47:34.08
huge alligator-like creatures.
00:47:34.08\00:47:35.65
But Noah didn't
have to necessarily
00:47:37.39\00:47:39.59
take the full grown ones.
00:47:39.59\00:47:40.96
He could have taken
eggs for that matter.
00:47:40.96\00:47:43.12
I mean, I don't
know that he did that,
00:47:43.12\00:47:45.03
but he could take
in very small ones.
00:47:45.03\00:47:47.96
And I think the Moody
Bible Research did a study,
00:47:47.96\00:47:51.23
and they said that the
average animal in the world
00:47:51.23\00:47:54.00
today is the size
of a sheep or smaller,
00:47:54.00\00:47:56.44
and God didn't need to
take 20 different kinds of dog.
00:47:56.44\00:47:59.84
He took two,
probably wolf-like dogs,
00:47:59.84\00:48:02.28
and all the other dog
breeds have come from them,
00:48:02.28\00:48:05.58
just like all the
different races of people
00:48:05.58\00:48:07.22
in the world came
from Adam and Eve.
00:48:07.22\00:48:09.18
So I believe that there
were reptiles on the ark.
00:48:09.18\00:48:14.19
There were a lot
of very big ones,
00:48:14.19\00:48:16.62
a lot of big mammals too,
00:48:16.62\00:48:17.99
that lived before the flood.
00:48:17.99\00:48:19.63
And it seems the
whole environment
00:48:19.63\00:48:21.10
and everything became dwarfed
00:48:21.10\00:48:22.26
and stunted after the flood.
00:48:22.26\00:48:23.97
Which ones may have
been the amalgamation of man
00:48:25.10\00:48:27.40
that didn't get on the ark?
00:48:27.40\00:48:29.24
I don't know, it doesn't say
in the Bible or anywhere else.
00:48:29.24\00:48:32.61
- Well, we also do have in,
00:48:32.61\00:48:34.21
I'm thinking of the Book of Job,
00:48:34.21\00:48:35.51
that talks about a
Behemoth. - [Doug] A Leviathan.
00:48:35.51\00:48:36.95
- Yeah, Leviathan
that lives in the sea
00:48:36.95\00:48:39.11
and then a Behemoth.
00:48:39.11\00:48:40.38
And it says, "God made them."
00:48:40.38\00:48:41.35
- [Doug] Yeah. -
So God made Leviathan,
00:48:41.35\00:48:43.05
and God made Behemoth.
00:48:43.05\00:48:44.15
And if you look
at the description
00:48:44.15\00:48:45.25
that we find there
in the Book of Job,
00:48:45.25\00:48:47.32
it's not a description of
any animal that we have now.
00:48:47.32\00:48:50.79
It talks about its tail
being as thick as the Cedar
00:48:50.79\00:48:53.80
and its legs
being big and round.
00:48:53.80\00:48:56.03
- [Doug] It's pretty big.
- So it can't be an elephant
00:48:56.03\00:48:57.40
'cause an elephant
has a tiny little tail,
00:48:57.40\00:48:59.07
but it's a
description of some kind of,
00:48:59.07\00:49:01.60
could very well be some
kind of a dinosaur that lived.
00:49:01.60\00:49:04.61
- [Doug] Yeah. -
It talks about how
00:49:04.61\00:49:05.71
that had lived by the
reeds, and by the water,
00:49:05.71\00:49:07.08
and it's very
interesting description.
00:49:07.08\00:49:08.88
But as you mentioned, Pastor
Doug, the environment changed.
00:49:08.88\00:49:11.08
You have woolly mammoths that
must have made it on the ark,
00:49:11.08\00:49:14.75
because they
survived after the flood.
00:49:14.75\00:49:16.85
They died out eventually.
00:49:16.85\00:49:18.35
So we don't know which of those,
00:49:18.35\00:49:19.92
those giant animals actually
made it through the flood.
00:49:19.92\00:49:22.79
- And then Nimrod in the Bible,
00:49:22.79\00:49:23.96
he's called the Mighty Hunter.
00:49:23.96\00:49:25.43
And he probably,
they were hunting
00:49:25.43\00:49:27.40
some of these big
things down. - [Jean] Yeah.
00:49:27.40\00:49:28.66
- You're not a Mighty
Hunter for killing a mouse.
00:49:28.66\00:49:30.27
- [Jean] Right.
00:49:30.27\00:49:31.67
- You're Mighty Hunter 'cause
you're killing something big.
00:49:31.67\00:49:32.70
- [Jean] Right.
00:49:32.70\00:49:33.77
- And they may
have rendered some
00:49:33.77\00:49:34.57
of these survivors extinct.
00:49:34.57\00:49:36.74
So it'll be
interesting to go back
00:49:36.74\00:49:38.07
and see how that played out.
00:49:38.07\00:49:40.24
- We do have a book
that talks about you know,
00:49:40.24\00:49:41.88
it was mentioned in
the call, carbon dating.
00:49:41.88\00:49:44.98
We have a book called
"How Science Flunked", no,
00:49:44.98\00:49:47.45
"How Evolution
Flunked the Science Test".
00:49:47.45\00:49:49.35
- Right.
00:49:49.35\00:49:50.75
- And it talks about some
of these commonly believed
00:49:50.75\00:49:52.99
or accepted theories
that if you look at it
00:49:52.99\00:49:55.52
a little bit
deeper, you realize,
00:49:55.52\00:49:56.86
oh, it's not built on
a very solid foundation.
00:49:56.86\00:49:59.09
The book is called "How
Evolution Flunked the Science
00:49:59.09\00:50:01.73
Test". And we'll be happy
to send that out to anyone
00:50:01.73\00:50:03.30
who calls and asks.
00:50:03.30\00:50:04.30
The number is 800-835-6747.
00:50:04.30\00:50:07.90
And we'll get that in the
mail and send it out to you.
00:50:07.90\00:50:10.41
We've got Chase
listening in Illinois.
00:50:10.41\00:50:12.47
Chase, welcome to the program.
00:50:12.47\00:50:14.04
- [Chase] Yeah,
I have a question.
00:50:15.14\00:50:16.24
It's about Isaiah
65:20 where it says,
00:50:16.24\00:50:18.75
"No more shall an infant
from there live but a few days
00:50:18.75\00:50:21.72
nor an old man who
has not fulfilled his days
00:50:21.72\00:50:23.69
for the child
shall die 100 years old.
00:50:23.69\00:50:26.19
But the sinner being 100
years old shall be accursed."
00:50:26.19\00:50:28.99
I was wondering because I
remember you talked about this
00:50:30.33\00:50:32.36
before in one of your sermons,
00:50:32.36\00:50:34.20
how it's like the child,
00:50:34.20\00:50:35.46
it doesn't mean that
the child dies in Heaven
00:50:35.46\00:50:37.47
'cause there's no
one dying in Heaven,
00:50:37.47\00:50:39.07
but it's saying that they'll
mature after 100 years of age.
00:50:39.07\00:50:42.20
And I was just
wondering is that concept
00:50:42.20\00:50:44.91
also kinda
illustrated in Genesis 5
00:50:44.91\00:50:47.64
when it talks about
the genealogy of Adam?
00:50:47.64\00:50:50.31
- Yeah, you'll notice
that in the early genealogies
00:50:50.31\00:50:53.38
that some of these people
were not even getting married
00:50:53.38\00:50:55.88
and having children
until they were over 100.
00:50:55.88\00:50:58.52
Now, that was amazing
by the time of Abraham
00:50:58.52\00:51:00.46
because then they had
a more normal lifespan,
00:51:00.46\00:51:03.39
but people matured more
slowly, they lived longer.
00:51:03.39\00:51:08.43
And in Heaven, kids will not
grow into maturity in 15 years.
00:51:09.76\00:51:13.50
I think that they're gonna,
00:51:14.30\00:51:15.74
parents are
gonna get to enjoy them
00:51:15.74\00:51:17.37
being children a little longer
00:51:17.37\00:51:18.97
if they're reunited
in the Resurrection,
00:51:18.97\00:51:20.81
and they're still children,
00:51:20.81\00:51:22.24
they'll get to grow up.
00:51:23.04\00:51:24.18
Bible talks about
children in Heaven
00:51:24.18\00:51:25.51
that a child will lead the wolf,
and the lion, and the lamb,
00:51:25.51\00:51:28.75
and child plays on the
hole of a venomous serpent,
00:51:28.75\00:51:30.95
and it doesn't hurt.
00:51:30.95\00:51:32.02
So yeah, but
they'll grow more slowly.
00:51:33.12\00:51:34.49
So when it says the
child will die 100 years' old,
00:51:34.49\00:51:36.73
die is an
unfortunate translation.
00:51:36.73\00:51:38.39
There's no
children dying in Heaven.
00:51:38.39\00:51:39.73
It's talking about child
won't even cease to be a child.
00:51:39.73\00:51:43.57
And the word die and cease
00:51:43.57\00:51:44.80
can sometimes be
interchanged there.
00:51:44.80\00:51:47.24
Pastor Ross, we
have three minutes,
00:51:47.24\00:51:48.30
can we do another question?
00:51:48.30\00:51:49.74
- Yes, we've got Wanda
listening in British Columbia.
00:51:49.74\00:51:51.47
Wanda, welcome to the program.
00:51:51.47\00:51:53.34
- [Wanda] So I have a question,
and it's in Psalms 23:4.
00:51:53.34\00:51:58.18
And it says, "Yea, though
I walked through the valley
00:51:58.18\00:52:01.25
of the shadow of
death, I will fear no evil
00:52:01.25\00:52:03.15
for Thou art with me.
00:52:03.15\00:52:04.65
Thy rod and Thy
staff, they comfort me."
00:52:04.65\00:52:07.36
So I was
wondering the difference
00:52:07.36\00:52:08.72
between the rod and the staff,
00:52:08.72\00:52:11.06
the significance of them,
00:52:11.06\00:52:13.09
and why they would comfort me?
00:52:13.09\00:52:15.13
- Alright, well,
that's a good question.
00:52:16.13\00:52:18.13
A shepherd would have a staff.
00:52:18.13\00:52:20.97
Now, they could
do one of two things.
00:52:20.97\00:52:22.27
A shepherd might
have two different sticks.
00:52:22.27\00:52:23.94
One was like a club
that was more of a weapon
00:52:23.94\00:52:26.91
against jackals and things
that might harm the sheep.
00:52:26.91\00:52:29.51
Another one was a staff.
00:52:29.51\00:52:30.65
Some of 'em used one for both.
00:52:30.65\00:52:33.85
And the staff often had
a crook on the end of it.
00:52:33.85\00:52:36.42
And if you
needed to grab a sheep,
00:52:36.42\00:52:37.79
it's hard to run
up and catch 'em.
00:52:37.79\00:52:38.89
But if they had
a crook where they
00:52:38.89\00:52:39.92
would scoot it
around their back leg,
00:52:39.92\00:52:42.42
and it would
capture their back leg,
00:52:42.42\00:52:43.93
and they'd pull
it up towards them.
00:52:43.93\00:52:45.29
And that would sometimes
be a means of discipline,
00:52:45.29\00:52:49.70
but it would also be
used to ward off anything
00:52:49.70\00:52:53.10
that might harm them.
00:52:53.10\00:52:54.34
And so we are
comforted by God's protection
00:52:54.34\00:52:59.24
and by His discipline.
00:53:00.08\00:53:02.14
And so David, as a shepherd,
00:53:02.14\00:53:04.25
he employed these symbols
00:53:04.25\00:53:05.68
he was very
well-acquainted with.
00:53:05.68\00:53:07.58
That the
shepherd's rod and his staff
00:53:07.58\00:53:11.39
are both for the
benefit of the sheep.
00:53:11.39\00:53:13.52
- [Wanda] Yeah, okay,
well, that makes sense.
00:53:14.62\00:53:17.09
So the rod is more
of the disciplining one
00:53:17.09\00:53:19.16
or keeping in line.
00:53:19.16\00:53:21.40
- Well, I think
the staff is the one
00:53:21.40\00:53:22.53
that they used
for hooking the sheep
00:53:22.53\00:53:23.87
and bringing it in.
00:53:23.87\00:53:24.97
And the rod was
the one that they-
00:53:24.97\00:53:27.07
- Used against the wolf.
00:53:27.07\00:53:28.14
- Yeah. - Or the bear
00:53:28.14\00:53:28.94
that comes to take the sheep.
00:53:28.94\00:53:30.04
- And you often hear
about the rod of Aaron
00:53:30.04\00:53:30.84
and Moses that was lifted up,
00:53:30.84\00:53:33.17
and there's leading the sheep.
00:53:33.17\00:53:34.78
Moses was a shepherd.
00:53:34.78\00:53:36.11
- And in
Revelation, it talks about Jesus
00:53:36.11\00:53:37.91
coming with the rod of
iron to execute judgment
00:53:37.91\00:53:40.35
upon the wicked. -
[Doug] That's right.
00:53:40.35\00:53:41.48
- Well, He's coming
as the good shepherd
00:53:41.48\00:53:42.58
to protect His sheep
'cause in Revelation,
00:53:42.58\00:53:45.19
there is a death
decree that's passed
00:53:45.19\00:53:46.92
just before Jesus comes.
00:53:46.92\00:53:48.42
So Christ comes to
the rescue of His people.
00:53:48.42\00:53:51.43
And yeah, it is a judgment
that falls upon the wicked.
00:53:51.43\00:53:54.10
So the rod protects
us, the staff guides us.
00:53:54.10\00:53:57.93
- Yeah.
00:53:57.93\00:53:59.17
- And we can see
both of those parallels
00:53:59.17\00:54:00.34
or symbols being
used in the Bible.
00:54:00.34\00:54:02.20
- Very good, good question.
00:54:02.20\00:54:04.01
Thank you. - Alright, well,
00:54:04.01\00:54:05.11
I'm looking at the
clock, Pastor Doug.
00:54:05.11\00:54:06.47
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00:54:06.47\00:54:07.74
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00:54:11.35\00:54:13.11
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00:54:13.11\00:54:14.25
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- Well, Pastor
Doug, we've got a number
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of questions that's come in,
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and we wanna greet those
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who stayed by for
this part of the program.
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So here we go,
question number one.
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Pastor Doug, do
you have any idea
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how long Adam and
Eve lived in the garden
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before they sinned?
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- Well, we don't
know the exact time,
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but chances are
it was not very long
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because God told them,
"Be fruitful and multiply."
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Presumably, the
plumbing was working perfectly,
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they had not had
any children yet.
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So I'm guessing
that they'd probably
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only been there
a matter of months
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before they fell
into sin. - Okay.
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Alright, next
question that we have.
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Is there a
difference, biblically speaking,
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between a
messenger and a prophet?
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- Well, someone could
be, as you mentioned before,
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a career prophet, where
it's a calling upon their life,
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and then other times,
God might be giving a person
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a particular message for
a specific time and person.
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And so in that sense, yes,
there could be a difference.
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- Okay, question number three.
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What will happen to
those who are living
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but they are not saved when
Jesus comes the second time?
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- It says the
wicked, if they're unsaved,
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they're in the
category of the lost,
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they are destroyed by
the brightness of His coming.
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Revelation says
they're calling for the rocks
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and the
mountains to fall on them
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and hide them from
the face of the One
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who sits on the throne.
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So for them,
it's not a good day.
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- Okay, next
question that we have.
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Luke 22:47 says, "But
they who did not know,
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but committed
things worthy of stripes
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shall be beaten
with few stripes."
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And the question is
asked, "Is this justice?"
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- Yeah, every judge
will mete out sentence
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based on knowledge.
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If a person
committed a crime in ignorance,
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then it's very different
than a person who read the law,
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they knew the law,
they saw the sign...
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It's- if you tell the officer,
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"Look, the speed limit changed,
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and you didn't have it
posted, I did not know,"
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he's gonna show you more mercy
00:57:24.84\00:57:26.14
than if you drove by six signs
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that said speed limit 55,
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and you're going 90.
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So he said, "Look,
you knew, you saw it."
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So the Lord judges
us based upon knowledge.
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- Okay, last quick question.
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Pastor Doug, you
got the Father, the Son,
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and the Holy Spirit, and
that is the God or the Trinity,
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but are they all
one being or one person?
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- Three separate persons.
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And part of the
reason we know this
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is you look at
the baptism of Jesus,
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and you see God,
the Father is in Heaven.
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He is speaking.
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Jesus is not
being of ventriloquist.
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He said, "This
is my beloved Son."
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And God, the Spirit is coming
down in the form of a dove.
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And of course, when
Jesus prayed to the Father,
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and the Father answers and says,
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"I will glorify You,
and I have glorified You,"
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you've got individual persons.
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Hey, thank you,
listening friends.
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