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- Hello friends. Would you
like to hear an amazing fact?
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I don't know if you're
aware of the Starlink company
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founded by Elon Musk?
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He's begun the process of
launching a network of as many
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as 42,000 satellites to
provide low-cost internet
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to even the most
remote locations on Earth.
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Each solar powered satellite
weighs around 570 pounds,
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and it's about the same
size as a small dining table.
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This mega constellation
of Starlink satellites
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circling the
planet, 340 miles up,
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is meant to carry large
amounts of information rapidly
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to any point on Earth.
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It appears that soon the
whole world will be connected
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to the internet superhighway.
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This developing picture of
international communication
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fits perfectly in the scheme
of Bible prophecy, Pastor Ross.
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- That's
interesting, Pastor Doug,
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mentioning how that
the world is connected
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through these satellites
that are being launched
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and placed in space.
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I think at the end of the day,
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not only are people able to
log on with their computers,
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but I think ultimately
the goal would be is to have
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a cell phone that is dependent
not upon land-based towers,
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but you can be anywhere
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and you can connect directly
to a satellite with your phone.
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- Yeah.
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- And you can talk to somebody
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on the other side of the world.
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- I actually know
somebody now who has
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already signed
up for this service
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and they're
already receiving it,
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but there's pretty long line.
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- I'm sure.
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- They just managed to
get to the head of the line.
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(Jean laughing)
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And they said, "It works."
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- [Jean] Huh.
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- Which is, you've been
to our place in The Hills,
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it'll be really helpful
where you're off the grid
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and you can still be
connected to the world.
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Just think about that.
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But you know, that also
fits in with Bible prophecy
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because there's some
prophecies that talk about
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international
communication, if you will.
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- Mm-hmm.
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You know, in the
Book of Revelation
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we have in chapter 13, a
description of two powers,
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it's called beast.
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The first beast
that comes from the sea,
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another beast that
comes from the earth.
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And the Bible, when
talking about these political,
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and the one is a
political religious power,
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it says in Revelation 13:8,
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it says:
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All who dwell upon the
Earth shall worship him
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whose names have
not been written in
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the Lamb's Book of Life.
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And then in verse 16
of chapter 13, it says:
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He calls us all, both
small and great, rich and free,
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slave, to receive a
mark in his right hand,
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on his forehead.
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So the time's gonna come where
through mass communication,
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the world will be united in
worshiping this beast power,
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except for those
whose names are written in
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the Lamb's Book of Life.
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Well, I think it's
pretty important for us
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to know what is
that beast power?
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What is the mark of the beast?
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And even more importantly to
know, what is the seal of God?
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Because at the end,
there's just two groups.
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Those who have
the mark of the beast,
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those who have the seal of God.
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And it seems as though
communication is gonna be key
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in getting the
whole world together.
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After all, the devil's
gonna try and deceive people.
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I think it's gonna be
broadcast over the airwaves
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and around the
world through satellite.
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But not only is mass
communication used by the devil
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in the last days, but
there's actually some good news.
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- Yeah, that's right.
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You can read where
Jesus says in Matthew 24:14:
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"And this gospel of the
kingdom will be preached
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"in all the world for
a witness to the nations
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"and then the end will come."
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And so it tells
us there'll be a day
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when the gospel is
going to the whole world.
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And so it's rather exciting.
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Even this broadcast right now,
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we're streaming around
the world through the internet
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and there's still
some remote locations
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that don't get reception,
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but it looks like Mr. Musk
is gonna help resolve that.
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(Jean laughing)
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- That's right.
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Dear Father in Heaven, again,
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Be with those who are listening,
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In Jesus' name, amen.
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- Amen.
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- Okay, well, our
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is calling from New York.
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We have Anthony.
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Anthony, welcome to the program.
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You're on the air.
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- [Anthony] Hello.
Good evening, Pastors.
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Glad to have you back.
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- Thank you.
It's good to be back.
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And your question?
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- [Anthony] Yes.
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So my question has to
do with the Commandments.
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I've heard it said, I've even
heard you say different times
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that there will be
people, sincere people,
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who did not know the
truth about the Sabbath,
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who didn't have a chance
to keep the Sabbath on Earth
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before they died
or before Jesus comes
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and that they will be in Heaven.
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There will be
plenty of people in Heaven
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that did not keep
the Sabbath on Earth.
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But I wondered does
that same principle apply
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to the other sins?
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Something like, people
who worship other gods,
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other idols or pagans,
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or people who
are liars, thieves,
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murderers, things like that?
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Does the same principle apply
to those other Commandments?
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- Yeah, I think that
you can find examples for
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God judges us
largely about what we know.
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And Jesus says that,
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and Pastor Ross might
look up the reference for me,
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at the times of this
ignorance God winked at is one.
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That's Acts
17:30, I'm pretty sure.
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And the other one
is where Jesus said,
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"If you did not know,
you would have no sin.
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"But since you
see, your sin remains."
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And another place
Christ tells us, He said,
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"God allowed divorce because
of the hardness of your hearts,
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"but from the
beginning, it was not so."
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So there you can
see that God sometimes
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has tolerated some
misguided behavior,
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'cause people
just didn't understand.
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It is not God's will for someone
to have more than one wife.
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If I were to take more
than one wife at a time,
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I mean, if you become
a widow, you can remarry,
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but that would be polygamy
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or bigamy if it's two,
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and that would be a
sin and I'd be lost.
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But you'll have people in
Heaven that didn't know that,
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like Abraham and Jacob
and David and many others,
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'cause it was just
rife during the times
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in which they lived.
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So God always wants us to obey
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and to follow the Holy Spirit,
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but there are areas, I think
there'll be people in Heaven
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that maybe did not understand
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the commandment about idolatry.
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Very devoted, love the Lord,
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but they were
growing up in an age where
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they were
surrounded by idols in church.
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And I think you've gotta
be careful not to say that
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everybody that attended a
church that had idols in it
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or statues of Mary,
that they're all lost.
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Maybe they just
didn't understand
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or they were misled by a Priest.
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So I think God judges everybody
on a case by case basis.
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But sin is sin and the
blood of Jesus covers those sins
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where a person
sins in ignorance.
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- Just the verse your refer
to, Pastor Doug, John 9:41.
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It says:
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Jesus said to them, "If you
are blind, you'd have no sin.
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"But now you say, 'We see,'
therefore your sin remains."
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I'm also thinking of
another area that we mentioned.
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Those who know the will of
the Master and they don't do it,
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they're beaten
with many stripes.
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Those who did not
know the will of the Master
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and did that worthy of stripes
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will be beaten with few stripes.
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So people are held
accountable for what they know.
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- Exactly.
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- Especially as
it comes to this.
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- Too whom much is
given, much is required.
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- We do have a study
guide called, "Written in Stone"
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and it's all about
the 10 Commandments
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and we'll be happy to send
this out to anyone who calls
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and asks.
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The number again for our
free offer is 800-835-6747.
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You can ask for the study guide.
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- [Doug] Amen.
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- Now we've got
Jerry listening in Texas.
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Jerry, welcome to the program.
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- [Jerry] Hey guys,
enjoyed your programs.
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My question is
tonight is that Adam and Eve,
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they suppose they lost
their covering of light
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'cause they were naked and
they had to have fig leaves.
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Does Lucifer still have,
wear that covering of light
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when God created
him as an archangel?
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- Yeah.
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Well, I don't know
the Bible ever tells us
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Lucifer was the archangel.
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That's a title you only
see connected with Michael.
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But to his robe,
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the Bible, if he's
still clothed with light,
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the Bible tells us in, I
think it's 2 Corinthians 11,
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that Satan
himself can be transformed
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into an angel of light.
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So angels are
ministering spirits.
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They're different from
people like Adam and Eve.
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And so, when
Adam and Eve sinned,
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they had these
robes of light or glory
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or something that went out that
helped them to realize that,
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"Oh, something's
gone. We're naked."
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But angels are
really kind of a different
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category of creature.
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They are ministering spirits.
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And so I think the devil
can emanate light if he wants.
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- The verse you're referring
to is 2 Corinthians 11:14.
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It says:
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No wonder, for Satan
himself is transformed
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into an angel of light.
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Now you mentioned
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Lucifer's never
referred to as the archangel,
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but he is referred to
as the angel that covereth
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or the covering cherub.
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- [Doug] Right. Correct.
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- Which is a little
different than the archangel.
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Okay, thanks for
your call, Jerry.
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We got Rodney
listening from Texas as well.
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Rodney, welcome to the program.
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- [Rodney] Yeah.
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I'm a truck driver and my
work sent out a memo saying that
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we have to take the
vaccine to stay working here.
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- Mm.
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- [Rodney] I was just wondering
if there was any scriptures,
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because what I understand
is they're not giving anyone
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religious excuses
not to take the vaccine.
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- [Doug] Right.
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- [Rodney] But is there
any scripture that would help
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to combat that?
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- Yeah. Well,
that's a good question.
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And of course, it's a
very relevant question
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in our world today.
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I'll tell you what.
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There's no scripture that's
gonna mention vaccine or virus.
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There are scriptures
that say that medicine,
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there is good medicine.
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In Ezekiel it talks
about the leaves of the tree,
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trees will be for medicine
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and a happy heart
doeth good like a medicine.
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And so there are.
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The Bible does speak
favorably that there are
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some good medicines.
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You have Paul who says,
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"Luke, the beloved
physician, is with me."
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And sometimes physicians
would administer herbs
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or medicines to help
relieve people's suffering.
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But so there's no moral
problem with taking a vaccine
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and we just wanna
be clear about that.
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Now there's another issue
that you're alluding to in this
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and that's at what
point it's almost like
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a political
question with patriotism.
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At what point is the government
overstepping its bounds
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in requiring
people to take something?
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And I've
thought a lot about this
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'cause we get a
lot of questions.
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And by the way, there are some
companies that are providing,
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in some states, it
varies from state to state,
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are providing
religious exemptions.
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And Pastor Ross and I, we
support people's decisions
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if they want to take
the vaccine, if they don't.
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We believe in freedom.
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I think we're not doctors,
so we don't issue medical advice
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and we're not experts in
the constitution or politicians.
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We're pastors.
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But so that may
vary from state to state.
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We have written a few letters
to people explaining that
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we've got a member of the church
and for some health reason,
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they're asking if
they might get an exemption
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for religious
conviction or a health reason,
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and some have been
accepted, some have not.
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I think it varies
from company to company.
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But for me, I've
thought a lot about this.
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And
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in our culture today, there's
an element of risk in life.
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And every culture
decides how much risk
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they're willing to
accept to have freedom.
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And for example, I don't drink.
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Pastor Ross, I
think it's safe to say,
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doesn't drink alcohol.
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People have a right to
drink alcohol in our country
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even though we know that a
certain number of those people
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are going to get sick
or make other people sick
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or have accidents.
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And we say, "Look, we're
going to respect their right,
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"even though we know
there's a risk involved."
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I think smoking
is a very bad idea,
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but it's still legal to smoke
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and the government of course
accepts tax money from that.
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And so the culture has accepted
a certain amount of risk
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to allow that freedom.
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And so I think one
of the questions that
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some people are
grappling with is not whether
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the Bible forbids it,
but they're wondering about
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at what point are we,
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for the illusion of security,
are we taking away freedoms?
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And so that's, I think,
another very important issue.
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But we can't really give
you a scripture on vaccines.
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- Well, you know, Pastor Doug,
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you do mention
something that's maybe
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worth just referencing.
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As far as the Bible goes,
if you look at end time events,
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Book of Revelation
talks about a time where,
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it's not a
vaccine that's forced,
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but it is a form of
worship that's forced.
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And eventually,
people can't buy and sell
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if they refuse to
go along with this law
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dealing with worship.
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It is interesting that
when people are afraid,
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they're willing
to, 9/11 and onwards,
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when people are afraid,
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they're willing to surrender
their rights very quickly
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for security.
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- For the illusion of security.
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- For at least
the illusion of that.
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(Doug laughing)
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But at some point,
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it seems as though when
things go from bad to worse,
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the only thing that
you end up gaining is
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just a loss of
freedoms at the end.
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You don't really
gain that security
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or that safety that
people are looking for.
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So it is an
interesting question.
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And of course,
it's playing out today.
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But I think individually
we need to make decisions
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based on health reasons.
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If a person is a
high-risk category,
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they need to
talk to their doctors,
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they need to figure
out what's the best thing
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for them to do.
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And it's not, as you
mentioned, Pastor Doug,
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it's not a...
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The Bible
doesn't speak against it
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and the Bible
doesn't speak for it.
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- Yeah.
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- The Bible does say that
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your body's the
temple of the Holy Spirit,
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so you wanna take care of
yourself the best you can.
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- Yeah. There's no moral
dilemma with taking a vaccine.
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There's been a lot of plagues
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and things that
have been stayed by,
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like smallpox or
polio or other things,
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that have been
eradicated by health measures.
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And the Bible
talks about sanitation.
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The Bible even talks about
if there's something contagious,
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how to deal with that.
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- [Jean] Mm-hmm.
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- Well, we can go on and on.
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This is a very
relevant question,
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but we have some
other people lined up.
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Thanks so much.
Appreciate that, Rodney.
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- Thanks Rodney.
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We've got Randy
listening in Indiana.
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Randy, welcome to the program.
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- [Randy] My question is,
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if a person survives
or endures to the end,
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the Bible says he who endures
to the end, he will be saved,
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can that person still,
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even though he
endures to the end, be lost?
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- Okay. Thank you.
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I think you're
quoting from Matthew 24,
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where Jesus is describing
the persecution of God's people
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in the last days.
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And Jesus talks about a
great tribulation such as
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there never has been.
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And He says that,
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"But he that endures
to the end will be saved."
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Those people,
who are God's elect,
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that are faithful enduring
to the end, they are saved.
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And so when you talk
about enduring to the end,
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He's not talking about
enduring trial or torture,
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He's talking about their
faith endures to the end.
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They are obviously saved.
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- And we have a group
described in Revelation 7,
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talks about those
who have the seal of God
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in their foreheads.
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Well, if you
have the seal of God,
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it means you surrender to Him
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and He's gonna take care of you.
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During the
tribulation, you need not fear.
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So if we surrender our
life to Christ every day,
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we're gonna receive that seal
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and we need not fear when
the time of trouble comes.
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- [Doug] That's right.
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- Thanks for your call.
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- [Doug] Thank you, Randy.
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- We're gonna go to
E. Frank now in New York.
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E. Frank, you're on the air.
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- [E. Frank] Good evening,
Pastor Doug and Pastor Ross.
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- Evening.
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- [E. Frank] My question
for you gentleman this evening
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is as follows:
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Did
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Jesus
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resurrect on the
third day in His full glory?
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And were there any eyewitnesses,
according to scripture,
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that saw Jesus going to Heaven
directly after the third day
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or was it a 40 day
period of ascension?
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Because I'm a
little bit confused how
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Jesus rose on the third day
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and then He stood
on Earth for 40 days,
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and then He went
into Heaven 40 days later.
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And scripture never stated
if they actually saw Jesus
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go into Heaven directly.
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- All right.
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I think that if you look
in the Gospel of John 20,
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it tells us that
after the angel came
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and threw away the stone,
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the Roman guard that
was there guarding the tomb,
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they saw the angels
and they fled in fear.
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First they fell down
as though they were dead
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and then they fled.
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And when the women
came, they saw two angels,
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the stone was rolled away,
they left to go tell the others
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and Mary was there
by herself, weeping.
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She stayed.
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That's where you pick
up the story in John 20:11.
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Mary stood outside the tomb
weeping, Jesus appears to her,
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she goes to grab His
feet and worship Him.
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And He says, "Do
not cling to me,"
00:19:25.76\00:19:27.83
this is verse 17,
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"For I've not yet
ascended to My Father,
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"but go to My brethren and say
00:19:31.97\00:19:33.30
"I am ascending to My
Father and to your Father,
00:19:33.30\00:19:36.00
"to My God and your God."
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Later that day, when He
sees them, they worship Him.
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So between the time He saw Mary,
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He waited for Mary,
He revealed Himself,
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said, "Go tell the
disciples and Peter I'm alive."
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And that evening meeting,
when He says, "All hail,"
00:19:49.75\00:19:52.55
He invites their worship,
00:19:52.55\00:19:53.66
He ascended to
Heaven and came back again
00:19:53.66\00:19:56.09
to have His sacrifice declared
successful and victorious.
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And time in Heaven can be
different than time on Earth.
00:20:00.66\00:20:03.50
It may have been
20 hours up there
00:20:03.50\00:20:05.17
and seemed like four
hours here, I don't know.
00:20:05.17\00:20:07.40
Nothing's too hard for the Lord
00:20:07.40\00:20:08.80
when you study the theory
of relatively and time travel.
00:20:08.80\00:20:12.54
(Doug laughing)
00:20:12.54\00:20:13.88
But so then Jesus continued
to go to and from Heaven
00:20:13.88\00:20:17.95
and appeared to
the disciples on Earth
00:20:17.95\00:20:20.68
over a period of 40 days.
00:20:20.68\00:20:22.55
When He made His final
ascent, the way I understand it,
00:20:22.55\00:20:26.89
10 days before Pentecost,
00:20:26.89\00:20:29.16
and He ascended somewhere
by Bethany with many witnesses,
00:20:29.16\00:20:32.56
at least the 12
Apostles were witnessing that.
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- In Acts 1.
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- [Doug] Yeah.
00:20:36.97\00:20:37.80
- Verse 12.
00:20:37.80\00:20:38.63
Actually, verse nine.
00:20:38.63\00:20:39.73
- Right.
00:20:39.73\00:20:40.57
So I think the Lord,
00:20:40.57\00:20:41.84
He was not
restricted to Heaven or Earth,
00:20:41.84\00:20:43.71
He was going to and from Heaven
00:20:43.71\00:20:45.74
from the time of His
resurrection until His final
00:20:45.74\00:20:49.54
ascension in Acts 1.
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Like I said, 40 days after.
00:20:52.71\00:20:54.58
So hopefully that
made sense, E. Frank.
00:20:54.58\00:20:56.72
- All right, thanks
for your call, E. Frank.
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We got Tony
listening in Indiana.
00:20:58.12\00:20:59.85
Tony, welcome to the program.
00:20:59.85\00:21:01.29
- [Tony] Hello. Thank you.
00:21:02.62\00:21:03.66
I have a question
about the Queen of Sheba
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giving King Solomon
666 talents of gold.
00:21:06.43\00:21:10.10
And legend is that he
committed adultery with her
00:21:10.10\00:21:12.33
and had a child.
00:21:12.33\00:21:13.67
And is there a literal
connection to prostitution
00:21:13.67\00:21:16.57
and the mark of the beast
00:21:16.57\00:21:17.71
beyond just selfishness
and the 10 Commandments?
00:21:17.71\00:21:20.94
- All right.
00:21:20.94\00:21:22.24
Well, when you talk
about the Queen of Sheba,
00:21:22.24\00:21:23.31
the notion, you'll
find this in 1 Kings 10.
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And Sheba was a country that was
00:21:29.42\00:21:31.55
probably somewhere in
the vicinity of Saudi Arabia
00:21:31.55\00:21:34.89
or could have been Ethiopia.
00:21:34.89\00:21:37.59
They're not sure.
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But they calls her,
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Jesus refers to her as
the Queen of the South.
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And it says the Queen
of the South will stand
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in judgment of this generation.
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She came a great distance
to hear the wisdom of Solomon.
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And Jesus said, "Now a
greater than Solomon is here."
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And so Jesus speaks of
her in a very positive way.
00:21:51.41\00:21:56.21
The idea that she had
an affair with Solomon,
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there's not a shred, a thread,
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of anything in the
Bible that hints of that.
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She came with purely altruistic
motives of seeking wisdom,
00:22:03.62\00:22:08.52
and Solomon answered her
questions and she gave a gift.
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It was customary that
when you go visit a King,
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you give a gift.
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And if royalty visits
royalty, it's a big gift.
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I do think the number
666 is interesting because,
00:22:18.60\00:22:21.90
when you read the
account of Solomon,
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everything continues
to go from glory to glory
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until you get to chapter 10.
00:22:26.14\00:22:28.91
And right after it says
he received 666 talents,
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you then read in
the next chapter,
00:22:33.11\00:22:34.85
"But Solomon loved
many foreign women."
00:22:34.85\00:22:37.82
Now it mentions the women,
00:22:37.82\00:22:39.32
but it never
mentions the Queen of Sheba.
00:22:39.32\00:22:42.42
This was the daughter
of Pharaoh and the Moabites
00:22:42.42\00:22:44.09
and Edomites and Hittites.
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These are local women he
ended up intermarrying with.
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Never says anything about
having a marriage or an affair.
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I mean, he had 300
wives and what was it?
00:22:51.57\00:22:54.00
600 wives, 300 concubines.
00:22:54.00\00:22:56.34
He didn't need one more.
00:22:56.34\00:22:57.77
And we don't know, she
might have been 70 years old.
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The Bible doesn't tell
us anything about that.
00:23:01.01\00:23:03.85
It seems, Pastor, that this
was an official state visit.
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- [Doug] Yes.
00:23:06.75\00:23:07.85
- I think the point
it's even mentioned is that
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Solomon's fame not only reached
to the area close to Israel,
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but his fame had
reached all the way down
00:23:12.29\00:23:14.02
to quite possibly
Ethiopia to the Queen of Sheba,
00:23:14.02\00:23:17.46
and she said, "I've
gotta come see for myself."
00:23:17.46\00:23:19.73
- [Doug] Yeah.
00:23:19.73\00:23:20.83
- "I've gotta see if
these things are so."
00:23:20.83\00:23:22.16
So it was an official
state visit and she was amazed,
00:23:22.16\00:23:24.43
not so much by the
majesty of Jerusalem and Solomon
00:23:24.43\00:23:28.34
and the wealth,
00:23:28.34\00:23:29.70
but just the wisdom and
the God that he worshiped.
00:23:29.70\00:23:32.37
- Mm-hmm.
00:23:32.37\00:23:33.78
And everything looked really
good in the story of Israel
00:23:33.78\00:23:36.31
until you hear that
number 666, and then it says:
00:23:36.31\00:23:39.81
But he loved many foreign.
00:23:39.81\00:23:41.18
And the kingdom starts going
south, pardon me for the pun.
00:23:41.18\00:23:44.22
Starts going bad
direction after that number.
00:23:44.22\00:23:46.82
So that I always
thought was interesting
00:23:46.82\00:23:48.99
and probably not a coincidence.
00:23:48.99\00:23:50.66
- Hey, thank you, Eric. I
hope that made some sense.
00:23:50.66\00:23:52.73
- Alright. We've got
Jill listening from Florida.
00:23:52.73\00:23:54.83
Jill, welcome to the
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00:23:54.83\00:23:57.60
- [Jill] Yes, hi
Pastors. How are you tonight?
00:23:57.60\00:24:00.57
- Fine. Thank you, Jill.
I appreciate your calling.
00:24:00.57\00:24:03.17
- [Jill] I have a question.
00:24:04.54\00:24:05.67
I don't know if
I'm wording this right,
00:24:05.67\00:24:07.81
but when God created Adam
and Eve, what color were they?
00:24:07.81\00:24:12.88
Because I'm trying to find out
00:24:13.68\00:24:15.88
how did all
these races come to be
00:24:15.88\00:24:18.59
if they were
just a certain color?
00:24:18.59\00:24:21.46
- You know, a good
answer for that question is
00:24:21.46\00:24:24.06
the same answer when people say,
00:24:24.06\00:24:25.46
"Where did all the
languages come from?
00:24:25.46\00:24:27.36
"There's so many
different languages,
00:24:27.36\00:24:28.76
"what language did
Adam and Eve speak?"
00:24:28.76\00:24:31.63
Well, Adam and Eve probably
spoke an original tongue,
00:24:31.63\00:24:34.60
and everything we talk, we use
now as sort of like fragments
00:24:34.60\00:24:38.14
of that original
language of Canaan and Eden.
00:24:38.14\00:24:40.78
So at the Tower of Babel,
when everybody was scattered,
00:24:42.11\00:24:45.75
different groups stayed together
00:24:45.75\00:24:47.78
and through intermarriage
within a smaller pool,
00:24:47.78\00:24:52.12
a smaller gene pool,
00:24:52.12\00:24:53.69
different genetic
traits became predominant.
00:24:53.69\00:24:56.86
And so some have said, "Well,
the three children of Noah
00:24:56.86\00:25:01.60
"formed the three
major races of the world."
00:25:01.60\00:25:04.93
I've heard people say
that before and it's really,
00:25:04.93\00:25:06.63
it's not true at all
that Noah had three kids
00:25:06.63\00:25:10.74
and one was black and one
was white and one was Asian,
00:25:10.74\00:25:13.41
or something like that.
00:25:13.41\00:25:14.21
I've actually heard that.
00:25:14.21\00:25:15.88
But the division
didn't really happen until
00:25:15.88\00:25:18.91
the Tower of Babel,
00:25:18.91\00:25:19.95
the same time the
languages were divided.
00:25:19.95\00:25:22.62
And you even see this
with animals around the world.
00:25:22.62\00:25:26.62
You're gonna see a
difference in the canines
00:25:26.62\00:25:29.12
that you find in America
00:25:29.12\00:25:31.16
than the ones you're gonna
find like the African wolves,
00:25:31.16\00:25:34.13
they're spotted
black and white dog.
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- [Jean] Hyenas. Yeah.
00:25:37.37\00:25:38.17
- And then you got hyenas
00:25:38.17\00:25:39.40
and then you come to
America, you get the coyotes,
00:25:39.40\00:25:40.77
and you go, "Well,
because they're kinda isolated,
00:25:40.77\00:25:42.87
"they breed and certain genetic
traits become prominent."
00:25:42.87\00:25:47.08
What color were Adam and Eve?
00:25:47.08\00:25:48.61
Probably like a
melding of all, I don't know,
00:25:49.71\00:25:53.95
that would be tan or something.
00:25:53.95\00:25:55.48
I'm not sure.
00:25:55.48\00:25:56.48
I think the word Adam
is like the word edum,
00:25:57.62\00:25:59.72
it means ruddy or
reddish is what I've heard.
00:25:59.72\00:26:02.89
But I know that's
what the word means,
00:26:02.89\00:26:04.86
but I can't
picture Adam being red.
00:26:04.86\00:26:06.73
- You know the
interesting thing is that
00:26:06.73\00:26:07.73
God gave, in
creating Adam and Eve,
00:26:07.73\00:26:10.40
He gave incredible
diversity within the gene pool
00:26:10.40\00:26:13.67
so that there is a
certain degree of adaptation
00:26:13.67\00:26:16.17
to the
environment where they went.
00:26:16.17\00:26:17.71
- [Doug] Yeah.
00:26:17.71\00:26:18.57
- Those who
went to hotter areas,
00:26:18.57\00:26:19.91
their skin color began to
change to help with the heat.
00:26:19.91\00:26:22.48
Those who went to cold areas,
00:26:22.48\00:26:23.85
their skin became
lighter to absorb more sunlight.
00:26:23.85\00:26:27.15
And so all of that was built
into the genes of Adam and Eve
00:26:27.15\00:26:30.65
for all of the different groups
00:26:30.65\00:26:32.02
and all of the different
races that we see today.
00:26:32.02\00:26:33.72
It's amazing.
00:26:33.72\00:26:34.56
- Yeah.
00:26:34.56\00:26:35.36
And the people who were native
00:26:35.36\00:26:37.23
to the areas around the Equator
00:26:37.23\00:26:38.59
are a lot less susceptible
to skin cancer from the sun.
00:26:38.59\00:26:42.20
- [Jean] Mm-hmm.
00:26:42.20\00:26:43.70
- God gave them some
mechanisms to resist that.
00:26:43.70\00:26:46.17
All right, I hope
that helps a little bit.
00:26:47.27\00:26:48.74
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your question, Jill.
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- [Shawanda] Thank you.
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- [Shawanda] My
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where it talks
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or three ground,
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and there was one ground
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30, 60, and a hundredfold.
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So my question is, what
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00:31:14.60\00:31:18.47
who don't produce?
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The stony and the thorny ground?
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Is it either loss of reward
00:31:21.58\00:31:23.88
or are they literally
banished out of the Kingdom?
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- Well, the first one is the
seed that falls on the pathway.
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It's not the stony
ground or the shallow ground.
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And the ravens snatch it away
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00:31:34.32\00:31:38.06
when some people hear the
Word, the devil then comes
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and takes it out
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00:31:41.06\00:31:43.26
they become unproductive.
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But what's your understanding
of that, Pastor Ross?
00:31:46.20\00:31:49.57
- Yeah, absolutely.
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We got the seed is the Word
00:31:50.54\00:31:53.44
and the grounds represent the
hearts that receive the Word.
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So we wanna be the fruitful
ground that produces a harvest.
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Those that have stony ground,
00:32:00.25\00:32:02.18
it means their hearts
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Is that answering your
question a little bit, Shawanda?
00:32:14.13\00:32:16.26
- [Shawanda] Well, the
thorny ground is my question.
00:32:16.26\00:32:18.07
Like, they're producing.
00:32:18.07\00:32:19.97
I mean, they receive the Word,
00:32:19.97\00:32:21.34
but then if cares of this life
00:32:21.34\00:32:24.71
and things come
in to choke the Word,
00:32:24.71\00:32:26.91
that it's unfruitful, is
that just a loss of reward
00:32:26.91\00:32:29.91
or are these literally
not entering to the Kingdom?
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Those people who
the Word was received,
00:32:34.98\00:32:37.52
but the cares, everything in
life just choked out the Word
00:32:37.52\00:32:40.72
that where they were unfruitful?
00:32:40.72\00:32:42.29
Are they just not entering
into the Kingdom of God?
00:32:42.29\00:32:45.56
Or-
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- Yeah, I think
that in the parable,
00:32:46.63\00:32:47.96
there's only one out of the
four that is described as saved.
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The other ones become
distracted with the world
00:32:52.27\00:32:54.40
or they spring up
00:32:54.40\00:32:55.97
and then they wither soon
because they have no root.
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The only one that really thrives
00:32:58.97\00:33:00.68
and is alive is
the fourth category.
00:33:00.68\00:33:02.88
- You know, Jesus said,
00:33:02.88\00:33:03.95
"He that endures to
the end shall be saved."
00:33:03.95\00:33:06.61
So there needs
to be an endurance.
00:33:06.61\00:33:09.05
It's not good enough
just to receive Christ
00:33:09.05\00:33:11.35
as your personal Savior
00:33:11.35\00:33:12.85
and then allow the
world to crowd Him out,
00:33:12.85\00:33:15.42
we wanna receive
Christ and hold onto Him.
00:33:15.42\00:33:17.83
That's why the Apostle
Paul said, "I die daily."
00:33:17.83\00:33:19.83
So it's a day by day experience
where we come to Christ
00:33:19.83\00:33:22.76
and we ask for forgiveness
00:33:22.76\00:33:24.27
and we receive His
grace and we trust in Him.
00:33:24.27\00:33:26.47
So it's not a one time thing.
00:33:26.47\00:33:28.04
If it's a one time experience,
00:33:28.04\00:33:29.40
then that experience
could very well be over-choked
00:33:29.40\00:33:32.27
or overcome by the
cares of this world.
00:33:32.27\00:33:34.71
- That's right.
00:33:34.71\00:33:35.78
- So we wanna be
that fruitful soil.
00:33:35.78\00:33:37.08
All right, thanks for your
call, Shawanda. Appreciate that.
00:33:37.08\00:33:39.28
We have Ellen
listening in New Mexico.
00:33:39.28\00:33:41.75
Ellen, welcome to the program.
00:33:41.75\00:33:43.79
- [Ellen] Hi.
00:33:43.79\00:33:44.89
I wondered if you
could explain to me
00:33:44.89\00:33:48.26
what the references in the
Bible to the towers falling.
00:33:48.26\00:33:53.13
Did that have anything
to do with the Twin Towers?
00:33:53.13\00:33:56.46
- No, I don't think so.
00:33:58.10\00:33:59.10
And there is a passage in,
00:33:59.10\00:34:01.40
I don't know if it's talking-
00:34:01.40\00:34:03.00
In the question I
think you mentioned Judges,
00:34:03.00\00:34:05.01
but in the Book of Isaiah,
00:34:05.01\00:34:07.91
it talks about, I
think it's Isaiah,
00:34:07.91\00:34:09.58
where it says,
"The towers fall."
00:34:09.58\00:34:11.48
But they had watch
towers in all of the capitals
00:34:11.48\00:34:16.12
and Isaiah often, a lot of
his prophecies have to do with
00:34:16.12\00:34:19.29
the fall of
Jerusalem to the Babylonians
00:34:19.29\00:34:21.12
because of their unfaithfulness.
00:34:21.12\00:34:22.96
And the walls were
destroyed and the towers fell.
00:34:22.96\00:34:25.76
There is a time
where it talks about,
00:34:27.03\00:34:28.80
Jesus refers to a tower
that fell on those of Siloam
00:34:28.80\00:34:32.60
and 18 men were killed.
00:34:32.60\00:34:36.10
But I don't think
those are talking about 9/11.
00:34:36.10\00:34:39.37
- Not specifically, but I think
the principles that we find
00:34:39.37\00:34:41.91
that as we near the end of time,
00:34:41.91\00:34:43.31
judgment will increase just
like judgment that came upon
00:34:43.31\00:34:45.85
Sodom and Gomorrah and
these other sinful cities.
00:34:45.85\00:34:48.52
I think as we
near the end of time,
00:34:48.52\00:34:50.35
the cities are gonna
become judged to some degree
00:34:50.35\00:34:54.69
and the wickedness that
is so ripe in the cities.
00:34:54.69\00:34:58.56
And God in His
mercy is still allowing
00:34:58.56\00:35:00.60
a certain degree of
protection and freedom,
00:35:00.60\00:35:02.36
but just in the
last year, Pastor Doug,
00:35:02.36\00:35:04.23
we've seen an increase
of violence in the cities.
00:35:04.23\00:35:07.70
I think that is to some
degree, a warning for believers.
00:35:07.70\00:35:10.57
- Yeah.
00:35:10.57\00:35:11.94
And the verse I think she's
talking about is Isaiah 30:25.
00:35:11.94\00:35:14.61
It says:
00:35:14.61\00:35:15.98
There will be on every high
mountain, on every high hill,
00:35:15.98\00:35:17.95
rivers and streams of waters
in the day of great slaughter
00:35:17.95\00:35:21.65
when the towers fall.
00:35:21.65\00:35:23.82
And so some have looked at
that passage, that verse there,
00:35:23.82\00:35:26.92
and they said, "Oh, that's
talking about the Twin Towers."
00:35:26.92\00:35:29.32
Well, in World War
I, with the bombing,
00:35:29.32\00:35:32.13
a lot of towers fell.
00:35:32.13\00:35:33.23
In World War II, a
lot of towers fell.
00:35:33.23\00:35:35.30
And this was another
example of a judgment
00:35:35.30\00:35:37.50
or certainly a trial
when the towers fell.
00:35:37.50\00:35:40.67
I don't think Isaiah was
specifically talking about
00:35:40.67\00:35:43.44
9/11 here.
00:35:43.44\00:35:44.77
- But I think the tower in that
context is a military tower.
00:35:44.77\00:35:47.28
It's part of a
stronghold or a city,
00:35:47.28\00:35:49.71
not a financial building.
00:35:49.71\00:35:50.81
- Yep. There you go.
00:35:50.81\00:35:51.68
Good. Good answer.
00:35:51.68\00:35:53.05
- All right. Well, thank
you for your call, Ellen.
00:35:53.05\00:35:54.08
We've got Marquis
listening from Indiana.
00:35:54.08\00:35:56.69
Marquis, welcome to the program.
00:35:56.69\00:35:59.02
- [Marquis] Hey, how
are you guys doing today?
00:35:59.02\00:36:00.76
- Doing well.
Thanks for calling.
00:36:00.76\00:36:02.56
- [Marquis]
Alrighty, my question-
00:36:02.56\00:36:03.99
Thank you.
00:36:03.99\00:36:05.36
My question comes from John
21:15, when Jesus asked Simon,
00:36:05.36\00:36:09.43
He said, "Son."
00:36:10.40\00:36:11.50
He said, "Simon, son of Jonah,
00:36:11.50\00:36:12.87
"do you love me
more than these?"
00:36:12.87\00:36:14.77
Was that the same Jonah
00:36:14.77\00:36:16.10
that was mentioned
in the Old Testament?
00:36:16.10\00:36:18.57
- No.
00:36:18.57\00:36:19.91
In the New Testament,
00:36:19.91\00:36:21.21
there are a number of
people that were named after
00:36:21.21\00:36:23.55
Old Testament heroes.
00:36:23.55\00:36:26.05
And Jonah was, of course,
00:36:26.05\00:36:27.52
a very popular Old
Testament character
00:36:27.52\00:36:30.82
and Peter's father
was evidently named Jonah.
00:36:30.82\00:36:35.19
And so Jesus referred to
him as Peter, the son of Jonah,
00:36:35.19\00:36:39.49
or Peter bar
Jonah, bar means son of.
00:36:39.49\00:36:42.43
Jesus was called
Jesus, the son of Joseph.
00:36:42.43\00:36:45.07
And so it's not the
Jonah from the Old Testament,
00:36:45.07\00:36:47.24
this is Peter's father.
00:36:47.24\00:36:48.84
Jonah was a very common name.
00:36:48.84\00:36:51.21
It means dove.
00:36:51.21\00:36:52.94
And
00:36:52.94\00:36:54.58
so, yeah.
00:36:54.58\00:36:56.38
Same name, different people.
00:36:56.38\00:36:58.11
You got several people in the
Bible that have similar names.
00:36:58.11\00:37:01.35
There's more than
one person named Moses.
00:37:01.35\00:37:03.05
There's several
people named John.
00:37:03.05\00:37:04.42
There's even two
or three named Jesus.
00:37:04.42\00:37:06.52
- That's interesting.
00:37:06.52\00:37:07.79
You got Saul who
converts and becomes Paul.
00:37:07.79\00:37:09.16
But if you look at the Old
Testament character of Saul,
00:37:09.16\00:37:11.83
it's probably not somebody
you wanna name your son after.
00:37:11.83\00:37:14.00
- Yeah.
00:37:14.00\00:37:15.06
- And yet, Saul
was a popular name,
00:37:15.06\00:37:16.40
at least as far as we
know back in Bible times.
00:37:16.40\00:37:18.50
- Well, he was good for a while.
00:37:18.50\00:37:19.67
- Yeah, he was. (Doug laughing)
00:37:19.67\00:37:20.60
- He was.
00:37:20.60\00:37:21.70
All right. Thanks
for your call, Marquis.
00:37:21.70\00:37:23.07
We got Barbara listening
in Sacramento, California.
00:37:23.07\00:37:25.71
Barbara, welcome to the program.
00:37:25.71\00:37:27.58
- [Barbara] Oh,
thank you, Pastor.
00:37:27.58\00:37:29.78
My question is I'm thinking
when God sent His beloved Son
00:37:29.78\00:37:34.85
to Earth to
suffer and die for us,
00:37:35.95\00:37:37.95
and I cannot
visualize a loving Father
00:37:37.95\00:37:42.19
sending His Son to suffer.
00:37:42.19\00:37:44.76
And I'm wondering why God
Himself didn't just come down
00:37:44.76\00:37:48.53
to suffer for us.
00:37:48.53\00:37:49.63
Why did He send
someone He loved?
00:37:49.63\00:37:52.40
- Well, it's not that God
the Father ordered His Son.
00:37:52.40\00:37:56.17
The Father and the Son
seen the dilemma of mankind
00:37:56.17\00:38:00.48
and they knew the
only way to redeem mankind
00:38:00.48\00:38:02.74
was if one of them paid.
00:38:02.74\00:38:05.21
And by the way, all
three of them suffered.
00:38:05.21\00:38:08.95
God the Father, the Son,
00:38:08.95\00:38:10.05
and the Holy Spirit
all suffered equally.
00:38:10.05\00:38:12.29
In some ways you'd think
the Father suffered more.
00:38:12.29\00:38:15.22
Any parent, when you see your
children suffering seriously,
00:38:15.22\00:38:18.53
you'd often say, "I
would trade places with them
00:38:18.53\00:38:20.56
"rather than see them suffer."
00:38:20.56\00:38:22.26
So this was done.
00:38:23.16\00:38:25.00
It was a cooperative decision.
00:38:25.00\00:38:27.47
And keep in mind, we
broke the law of the Creator.
00:38:27.47\00:38:31.54
The Bible tells us that
all things that were created
00:38:31.54\00:38:34.08
were created by Jesus the Son.
00:38:34.08\00:38:36.31
And so here, you've got the
Creator dying for His creation
00:38:36.31\00:38:40.58
and the Father allowing that.
00:38:41.38\00:38:44.45
He so loved the
world, He gave His Son.
00:38:44.45\00:38:46.89
- You know Pastor Doug,
00:38:46.89\00:38:47.99
that was the point I
was just gonna mention is
00:38:47.99\00:38:49.82
that famous verse:
00:38:49.82\00:38:50.93
For God so loved
the world that He gave
00:38:50.93\00:38:52.63
His only begotten Son.
00:38:52.63\00:38:54.00
It wasn't a requirement.
00:38:54.00\00:38:55.40
The Father didn't say, "All
right, Son, you need to go."
00:38:55.40\00:38:58.53
But out of love for
us- - [Doug] He allowed it.
00:38:58.53\00:39:00.37
- He gave His Son,
and what a sacrifice.
00:39:00.37\00:39:02.54
- [Doug] Yeah.
00:39:02.54\00:39:03.57
- So the Father
suffered and the Son.
00:39:03.57\00:39:04.67
And just speaking from
a parent's perspective,
00:39:04.67\00:39:06.84
how hard it must have
been for God the Father
00:39:06.84\00:39:09.04
to witness what
they did to His Son
00:39:09.04\00:39:11.61
and to go through all of that.
00:39:11.61\00:39:12.41
It's just without a doubt,
00:39:12.41\00:39:14.35
the Father suffered
greatly because of man's sin.
00:39:14.35\00:39:17.42
- Yeah, absolutely.
00:39:17.42\00:39:18.39
- Does that help, Barbara?
00:39:18.39\00:39:19.75
- [Barbara] Yes, it does.
00:39:20.72\00:39:21.79
But now you just
brought up another question.
00:39:21.79\00:39:24.29
I thought God
didn't have any emotions,
00:39:24.29\00:39:27.30
so how could He suffer?
00:39:27.30\00:39:29.43
- Now, why would you
think God has no emotions?
00:39:29.43\00:39:32.70
- [Barbara] Well, how could He?
00:39:32.70\00:39:35.00
I mean, He is God.
00:39:35.00\00:39:36.17
He just exists.
00:39:36.17\00:39:37.67
- Well, the Bible says
we're made in God's image
00:39:37.67\00:39:41.01
and we are
fraught with emotions.
00:39:41.01\00:39:43.28
And God, the
Bible says, has joy.
00:39:43.28\00:39:46.05
The Bible says God sings.
00:39:46.05\00:39:47.58
We get our emotions from Him.
00:39:47.58\00:39:48.82
We're made in His image.
00:39:48.82\00:39:50.15
The Bible tells us that
God has anger, He has wrath,
00:39:50.15\00:39:53.69
He has jealousy.
00:39:53.69\00:39:54.82
(Doug laughing)
00:39:54.82\00:39:55.62
He says, "I'm a jealous God."
00:39:55.62\00:39:57.86
So every spectrum
of emotion people have.
00:39:57.86\00:40:01.43
But now God's emotions are
only going to be in harmony
00:40:01.43\00:40:04.40
with good.
00:40:04.40\00:40:06.47
Sometimes we'll
have misplaced jealousy
00:40:06.47\00:40:08.47
or misplaced emotions.
00:40:08.47\00:40:10.24
God's are
always coming from love
00:40:10.24\00:40:12.14
and love can be an emotion.
00:40:12.14\00:40:13.54
- Love's an emotion.
00:40:13.54\00:40:14.38
Yeah, absolutely.
00:40:14.38\00:40:15.61
- So, yes, God does,
definitely does, have feelings
00:40:15.61\00:40:18.38
and Jesus loves us desperately.
00:40:18.38\00:40:20.62
There's a verse in the
Bible in Deuteronomy 5 where
00:40:20.62\00:40:23.08
God says, "Oh."
00:40:23.08\00:40:24.99
And just that
phrase. He says, "Oh."
00:40:24.99\00:40:27.06
And even when it says in John
3:16: God so loved the world.
00:40:27.06\00:40:31.76
You know, that phrase
kind of denotes passion.
00:40:31.76\00:40:36.23
And He says, "Oh, that
there was such a heart in them
00:40:36.23\00:40:38.20
"that they would fear me and
keep my Commandments always."
00:40:38.20\00:40:41.00
And in Genesis, God says,
00:40:41.00\00:40:42.34
"It broke God's
heart that He made man."
00:40:42.34\00:40:45.01
And He said, "I'm gonna
clean the Earth from them
00:40:45.01\00:40:47.18
"except for Noah."
00:40:47.18\00:40:48.31
- Yeah.
00:40:48.31\00:40:49.88
- Yeah. You see the passion
of God many places in the Bible.
00:40:49.88\00:40:51.11
- Even in the Old
Testament, Pastor Doug,
00:40:51.11\00:40:52.65
you got God saying, "Oh, turn,
turn. Why will you perish?"
00:40:52.65\00:40:56.48
- [Doug] Yeah. Pleading.
00:40:56.48\00:40:57.79
- And He's crying
out, saying, "Please stop."
00:40:57.79\00:40:59.09
Without a doubt,
00:40:59.09\00:41:00.26
some beautiful emotion
displayed in the Bible.
00:41:00.26\00:41:02.19
All right. Well, thank
you for your call, Barbara.
00:41:02.19\00:41:03.56
We're gonna go to
Kathy in Tennessee.
00:41:03.56\00:41:05.96
Kathy, welcome to the program.
00:41:05.96\00:41:07.50
- [Kathy] Well,
thanks to Facebook,
00:41:07.50\00:41:09.06
I'm calling you guys
this evening, surprisingly,
00:41:09.06\00:41:12.97
but I don't think by accident.
00:41:12.97\00:41:15.07
So my question is around
receiving the gifts of the
00:41:15.07\00:41:20.14
Spirit. I don't have
scripture to offer you,
00:41:21.14\00:41:22.84
only a question
and hoping that you can
00:41:22.84\00:41:25.35
provide me perhaps
with some living guidance,
00:41:27.02\00:41:29.92
scripturally-based, as
this actually happened to me,
00:41:29.92\00:41:34.46
about a year ago,
very unexpectedly.
00:41:34.46\00:41:39.09
I found myself praying one day
00:41:39.09\00:41:41.90
and I wound up
00:41:41.90\00:41:45.50
speaking in tongues
00:41:45.50\00:41:46.74
and it was utterly overwhelming.
00:41:46.74\00:41:49.50
Not something I've
ever aspired to do,
00:41:49.50\00:41:51.87
not something I've
ever known anyone to do.
00:41:51.87\00:41:54.14
I didn't even know what it
sounded like or it looked like,
00:41:54.14\00:41:57.05
and then there I was doing it.
00:41:57.05\00:41:58.68
And what's the best
way to process that,
00:42:00.25\00:42:03.95
receive that and shepherd it?
00:42:03.95\00:42:06.35
And then beyond
that, what is going on?
00:42:06.35\00:42:09.12
In the world today,
00:42:09.12\00:42:10.43
is there a abundant outpouring
of the Spirit going on?
00:42:10.43\00:42:14.00
Because the same
thing happened to my aunt
00:42:14.00\00:42:17.57
about the same
time it happened to me.
00:42:17.57\00:42:20.30
- Well, now you attend church?
00:42:20.30\00:42:22.07
- [Barbara] I do.
00:42:23.51\00:42:24.51
I'm not going as
regularly as I used to.
00:42:24.51\00:42:27.21
I've been slow to get back in.
00:42:27.21\00:42:28.71
- Okay.
00:42:28.71\00:42:29.54
- [Barbara] Since COVID.
00:42:29.54\00:42:30.38
But I do.
00:42:30.38\00:42:31.21
- All right.
00:42:31.21\00:42:32.01
So the church that you go to,
00:42:32.01\00:42:33.31
do the people there believe in
00:42:33.31\00:42:34.62
and practice praying in tongues?
00:42:34.62\00:42:36.52
- No. No.
00:42:36.52\00:42:37.79
- So this is a little
unusual for your church, even?
00:42:37.79\00:42:39.79
- [Barbara] Very.
00:42:39.79\00:42:40.82
- Yeah.
00:42:40.82\00:42:41.69
- [Barbara]
It's unusual for any.
00:42:41.69\00:42:43.12
This has never
happened to anyone in my family,
00:42:43.12\00:42:45.06
that I know of, and
really no one else that I know.
00:42:45.06\00:42:47.30
- All right. Well, let's talk
about that for just a minute.
00:42:47.30\00:42:49.20
Now, if you're
wanting to process
00:42:49.20\00:42:51.57
if what I'm doing is right
or wrong or what to do with it,
00:42:51.57\00:42:55.00
first place you
wanna look is in the Word.
00:42:55.00\00:42:57.91
So in the Word,
Jesus is our example.
00:42:57.91\00:43:00.94
Do you find an example
where Jesus prays in tongues
00:43:02.24\00:43:04.88
in the Bible?
00:43:04.88\00:43:05.78
- [Barbara] Um, well,
I guess I need to look.
00:43:08.62\00:43:10.95
(Barbara laughing)
00:43:10.95\00:43:12.09
- Well I guess I'll
give you the answer.
00:43:12.09\00:43:13.59
The answer's no.
00:43:13.59\00:43:14.49
- [Barbara] Okay.
00:43:15.52\00:43:16.62
- There's three
examples of speaking in tongues
00:43:16.62\00:43:19.23
in the Bible.
00:43:19.23\00:43:20.06
It's Acts 2, Acts 10,
00:43:20.06\00:43:22.83
and Acts 19.
00:43:22.83\00:43:24.67
Now, when I first
became a Christian,
00:43:24.67\00:43:26.43
I'm just, you asked,
I'm telling you honestly.
00:43:26.43\00:43:28.67
I first became a Christian.
00:43:28.67\00:43:30.14
I worshiped with
charismatic Christians
00:43:30.14\00:43:32.17
and all of my
friends spoke in tongues
00:43:32.17\00:43:33.84
and they wanted to
encourage me to speak in tongues
00:43:33.84\00:43:35.64
and pray in tongues.
00:43:35.64\00:43:36.48
- [Barbara] Yeah.
00:43:36.48\00:43:37.78
- And I kept thinking,
"Well, am I missing something?"
00:43:37.78\00:43:39.85
So I spent a lot of
time studying this because
00:43:39.85\00:43:42.65
I certainly wanted the
baptism of the Holy Spirit.
00:43:42.65\00:43:46.15
It's not uncommon that
some people have been praying
00:43:46.15\00:43:48.62
and they're so
overcome with emotions
00:43:48.62\00:43:50.23
that they're at a loss of words
00:43:50.23\00:43:52.16
and they may break out in
some unintelligible speech,
00:43:52.16\00:43:57.00
and it sounds like what
you're saying has happened.
00:43:57.00\00:44:00.17
Sometimes. - [Barbara] Yeah.
00:44:00.17\00:44:01.30
- Yeah. You
can't find words and...
00:44:01.30\00:44:03.44
But now there's no
meaning to what you're saying.
00:44:03.44\00:44:06.47
In other words, if you say,
00:44:06.47\00:44:07.54
"Well, what
exactly did I just say?"
00:44:07.54\00:44:08.58
You probably
couldn't interpret that.
00:44:08.58\00:44:10.41
Is that right?
00:44:11.35\00:44:12.18
- [Barbara] No.
00:44:12.18\00:44:13.01
- Yeah.
00:44:13.01\00:44:14.38
- [Barbara] No. I had no idea
of what I was saying at all.
00:44:14.38\00:44:15.72
- So the Bible says we
should pray in the Spirit,
00:44:15.72\00:44:17.42
but we should pray
with the understanding.
00:44:17.42\00:44:19.19
So if you're praying a prayer,
00:44:19.19\00:44:20.92
you would wanna
know, what am I asking?
00:44:20.92\00:44:23.29
And how do you know
if you get an answer?
00:44:23.29\00:44:25.39
We have a book that
we'd like to send you.
00:44:26.49\00:44:27.93
I think that would-
00:44:27.93\00:44:29.30
Free.
00:44:29.30\00:44:30.10
And it'll help answer that.
00:44:30.10\00:44:31.27
- [Barbara] Okay.
00:44:31.27\00:44:32.53
- And any of your
friends that are listening
00:44:32.53\00:44:33.34
that have the similar question.
00:44:33.34\00:44:34.90
- Yeah, all you need
to do, Kathy, is call
00:44:34.90\00:44:36.57
800-835-6747.
00:44:36.57\00:44:40.38
That is our free
resource phone line.
00:44:40.38\00:44:42.04
Again, you'll see it if
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00:44:42.04\00:44:43.95
it's on the screen.
00:44:43.95\00:44:44.95
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00:44:44.95\00:44:47.52
Ask for the book, it's
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00:44:47.52\00:44:50.09
That'll give you
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00:44:50.09\00:44:51.42
and I think you'll find
this book to be enlightening
00:44:51.42\00:44:53.79
as you compare with
what the Bible says,
00:44:53.79\00:44:55.36
and it'll kind of bring into
perspective your experience.
00:44:55.36\00:44:58.43
So take a look at that.
00:44:58.43\00:44:59.86
Call again, 800-835-6747.
00:44:59.86\00:45:02.63
Ask for the book,
"Understanding Tongues,"
00:45:02.63\00:45:04.77
and we'll be happy to
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00:45:04.77\00:45:07.04
Again, thank you for
calling. - Thank you.
00:45:07.04\00:45:08.57
- We've got, let's
see, we'll go to Bridget.
00:45:08.57\00:45:11.34
Actually, we go to
Julia next in Michigan.
00:45:11.34\00:45:13.64
Julia, welcome to the program.
00:45:13.64\00:45:15.41
- [Julia] I have a question.
00:45:15.41\00:45:16.64
I'm reading through the Bible.
00:45:16.64\00:45:20.35
- Okay.
00:45:20.35\00:45:21.72
- [Julia] And I'm doing
"Walk Through the Bible,"
00:45:21.72\00:45:24.25
by HMS Richards.
00:45:24.25\00:45:25.75
- Yeah.
00:45:25.75\00:45:26.89
My wife's done the
same study. It's a good one.
00:45:26.89\00:45:28.72
- [Julia] Yeah. Okay.
00:45:28.72\00:45:30.49
So, all right.
00:45:30.49\00:45:31.49
And I'm into Ezekiel
00:45:31.49\00:45:33.23
40 and 41,
00:45:35.63\00:45:37.13
and it talks about another
temple that was going to be
00:45:37.13\00:45:42.07
built while it was
described by Ezekiel.
00:45:43.04\00:45:44.94
And it was
described in a lot of detail
00:45:44.94\00:45:49.41
that he talked about,
but that it was never built.
00:45:50.91\00:45:54.28
So my question is,
00:45:55.98\00:45:57.45
approximately about what
time would that have been built
00:45:58.79\00:46:02.69
if it had been?
00:46:02.69\00:46:04.26
And then because HMS puts
in there that he says that
00:46:04.26\00:46:09.30
it would've
been a fourth temple.
00:46:10.17\00:46:12.23
But there would've been
Solomon's and then Zerubbabel's.
00:46:12.23\00:46:16.24
But Zerubbabel's
temple was added on by Herod,
00:46:16.24\00:46:20.78
so really that was a third
temple, or a second temple,
00:46:20.78\00:46:25.18
so it would've
been a third temple?
00:46:25.18\00:46:26.31
- Yeah, well, no.
00:46:26.31\00:46:27.65
It would've been a
fourth if it had been built.
00:46:27.65\00:46:29.58
But let me just-
00:46:29.58\00:46:30.95
This is a serious chapter.
00:46:30.95\00:46:32.95
Matter of fact, it's
not only in chapter 40,
00:46:32.95\00:46:35.12
he references this
temple all the way through
00:46:35.12\00:46:37.16
the end of his book.
00:46:37.16\00:46:38.23
You've got the first temple
being the one in the wilderness.
00:46:39.56\00:46:42.23
It was a portable tabernacle,
00:46:42.23\00:46:43.77
but it was considered a temple.
00:46:43.77\00:46:45.10
So you got that one.
00:46:45.10\00:46:46.27
Then you have Solomon's temple.
00:46:46.27\00:46:47.77
Then you have
Zerubbabel's temple,
00:46:47.77\00:46:49.64
that was modified by Herod.
00:46:49.64\00:46:51.44
And so I think HMS
Richards was saying this,
00:46:51.44\00:46:55.84
if it had been built
00:46:55.84\00:46:57.21
when they came back from
the Babylonian captivity,
00:46:57.21\00:46:58.98
its dimensions were bigger,
it would've been a fourth.
00:46:58.98\00:47:01.88
There are two theories,
two principle theories,
00:47:01.88\00:47:04.59
about what is Ezekiel's temple.
00:47:04.59\00:47:06.22
He goes to great length
to give detail about it,
00:47:06.22\00:47:08.22
the rooms and the
size, and it's all measured,
00:47:08.22\00:47:10.06
and an angel's
showing him all this.
00:47:10.06\00:47:11.99
Some have said, "Well,
if they had been obedient,
00:47:11.99\00:47:14.96
"God would've given
them independence again
00:47:14.96\00:47:16.80
"and this would've been
the international temple
00:47:16.80\00:47:18.60
"for the nation."
00:47:18.60\00:47:20.00
So that's one theory.
00:47:20.00\00:47:21.40
The other theory is since
the New Testament tells us
00:47:21.40\00:47:24.47
that Jesus said, "Destroy
this temple made with hands
00:47:24.47\00:47:26.98
"and I'll make
one without hands,"
00:47:26.98\00:47:28.51
and He's talking
about His body, the Church,
00:47:28.51\00:47:31.01
and the Bible says the
Church, we are living stones,
00:47:31.01\00:47:33.82
that we are a temple of God,
00:47:33.82\00:47:35.95
that Ezekiel is
using symbolic language
00:47:35.95\00:47:38.89
to talk about God's Church.
00:47:38.89\00:47:41.82
And which adds
another layer of questions.
00:47:41.82\00:47:44.99
What do all those
measurements and things mean?
00:47:44.99\00:47:48.20
So we actually have a study
that "Amazing Facts" has done
00:47:48.20\00:47:51.53
on "Secrets of the Sanctuary"
00:47:51.53\00:47:53.80
that you might
00:47:53.80\00:47:56.64
enjoy looking at,
00:47:56.64\00:47:57.74
where we talk about
some of the symbolism
00:47:57.74\00:47:59.61
in the sanctuary
services that teaches us about
00:47:59.61\00:48:01.91
the plan of salvation.
00:48:01.91\00:48:03.51
- And you're thinking
about the magazine that we have
00:48:03.51\00:48:05.48
dealing magazine
dealing with the sanctuary.
00:48:05.48\00:48:06.78
- And the magazine, yep. - Yep.
00:48:06.78\00:48:07.82
If you'd like to
learn more about that,
00:48:07.82\00:48:08.92
for this one, you'll
probably need to go to
00:48:08.92\00:48:09.72
the "Amazing Facts" website,
00:48:09.72\00:48:11.42
just amazingfacts.com or.org.
00:48:11.42\00:48:13.62
Type in there- - Divine design.
00:48:13.62\00:48:15.02
- Yep. "Divine Design"
is the name of the magazine.
00:48:15.02\00:48:17.03
And you'll be able to find
out more information about that.
00:48:17.03\00:48:19.96
We've got Marvins who
is listening from Canada.
00:48:19.96\00:48:22.86
Marvins, welcome to the program.
00:48:22.86\00:48:24.53
- [Marvins] Hello, both of you.
00:48:26.00\00:48:27.90
- Evening.
00:48:27.90\00:48:29.17
- [Marvins] Yeah.
How you are? I'm good.
00:48:29.17\00:48:30.81
My name is Marvins and I'm
from Montreal, Canada, okay?
00:48:30.81\00:48:33.68
- Mm-hmm.
00:48:33.68\00:48:34.78
- [Marvins] I have
a question for you.
00:48:34.78\00:48:36.38
And first of all,
I'm not very good.
00:48:36.38\00:48:38.88
I speak in English,
00:48:38.88\00:48:39.91
so I hope you will
understand my question.
00:48:39.91\00:48:42.65
- So far so good.
00:48:42.65\00:48:43.62
- [Marvins] So thank you.
00:48:43.62\00:48:46.45
Praise the Lord.
00:48:46.45\00:48:47.89
According to Matthew 27:52, 53,
00:48:47.89\00:48:52.96
I will read for you.
00:48:53.76\00:48:54.83
And the graves were opened
00:48:56.13\00:48:57.90
and many bodies of the
saints who had fallen asleep
00:48:57.90\00:49:00.87
were raised.
00:49:00.87\00:49:02.14
And 53.
00:49:02.14\00:49:03.47
And coming out of the
grave after His resurrection,
00:49:03.47\00:49:06.88
about Jesus, they
went into the holy city
00:49:06.88\00:49:09.74
and appeared to many.
00:49:09.74\00:49:11.78
So my question is,
why some other people,
00:49:11.78\00:49:15.52
the people, why
some other people,
00:49:15.52\00:49:18.02
rise up after the
resurrection of Him
00:49:18.02\00:49:22.39
while He said that
people will only rise up
00:49:22.39\00:49:26.36
at the end of the world?
00:49:26.36\00:49:28.43
- Okay. So good question.
00:49:28.43\00:49:30.30
We understand there's a special
resurrection that happens
00:49:30.30\00:49:33.23
at the time of Christ's death.
00:49:33.23\00:49:35.57
During the earthquake, during
the time of His crucifixion,
00:49:35.57\00:49:38.94
the graves were split open.
00:49:38.94\00:49:41.28
And then it tells
us that when He rose,
00:49:41.28\00:49:43.91
there's a small
group, it's not thousands,
00:49:43.91\00:49:47.32
but there were many of
the saints who had slept
00:49:47.32\00:49:49.55
that were brought
out of their graves
00:49:49.55\00:49:50.92
and taken as a
first fruit to Heaven.
00:49:50.92\00:49:53.22
- Mm-hmm.
00:49:53.22\00:49:54.29
And the Bible says
when He ascended on high,
00:49:54.29\00:49:55.96
He led captivity
captive and gave gifts unto men.
00:49:55.96\00:49:59.63
And that is a
reference to Christ's ascension
00:49:59.63\00:50:02.06
when He ascended to Heaven.
00:50:02.06\00:50:03.43
Those who were resurrected
00:50:03.43\00:50:04.87
at the time of
Christ's resurrection,
00:50:04.87\00:50:06.23
ascended as first fruits
of a much bigger resurrection
00:50:06.23\00:50:09.77
that would occur at the
second coming of Christ.
00:50:09.77\00:50:12.14
So who's in Heaven now?
00:50:12.14\00:50:13.54
Well, Pastor Doug, you've
got Enoch, you got Elijah,
00:50:13.54\00:50:16.21
you got Moses who was
resurrected and taken to Heaven,
00:50:16.21\00:50:18.81
and then you have this group.
00:50:18.81\00:50:19.88
We don't know how
many are in the group,
00:50:19.88\00:50:21.38
but there is a
group that was resurrected
00:50:21.38\00:50:23.28
and they're in Heaven now.
00:50:23.28\00:50:24.39
And then the
rest will, of course,
00:50:24.39\00:50:25.52
be resurrected at
the second coming.
00:50:25.52\00:50:27.49
- Yeah.
00:50:27.49\00:50:28.79
In the Hebrew economy,
whenever they had a harvest,
00:50:28.79\00:50:30.19
they would take a handful,
they called it the sheaf.
00:50:30.19\00:50:33.26
They would harvest the grain
00:50:33.26\00:50:34.56
and kinda bind up a
sheaf that could be carried,
00:50:34.56\00:50:37.70
like we have bales of hay,
00:50:37.70\00:50:39.13
and they would
present that to the Lord.
00:50:39.13\00:50:40.80
It's like Jesus
took a trophy, a sheaf,
00:50:40.80\00:50:43.17
a first fruit to Heaven
of those who will be redeemed
00:50:43.17\00:50:47.11
at the final resurrection.
00:50:47.11\00:50:49.08
But thank you. We
appreciate that, Marvins.
00:50:49.08\00:50:50.75
I hope that helps a little bit.
00:50:50.75\00:50:52.71
- We've got
Alancio from California.
00:50:52.71\00:50:56.15
Alancio, welcome to the program.
00:50:56.15\00:50:57.72
- [Alancio] Yes, hi. Welcome.
00:50:58.79\00:50:59.95
- Hi. Thank you.
00:50:59.95\00:51:01.16
- [Alancio] I
just have one question
00:51:01.16\00:51:02.96
and it's kind of
a filled question,
00:51:04.39\00:51:06.56
and I've heard both sides.
00:51:07.76\00:51:09.00
Whether the Calvinistic
Reformed biblical interpretation
00:51:09.00\00:51:13.70
is more biblical
than the Arminian side?
00:51:13.70\00:51:17.34
Whether it's
solely on predestination
00:51:17.34\00:51:19.71
or solely based
on the free will?
00:51:19.71\00:51:22.11
And I have questions in my
own reference to like Romans 9,
00:51:22.11\00:51:26.25
Ephesians 1 and
Ezekiel, it talks about how God
00:51:26.25\00:51:29.82
takes the heart of stone
and makes a heart of flesh.
00:51:29.82\00:51:32.79
So I don't know if
that happens before
00:51:32.79\00:51:34.92
and if that is necessary
for someone to have faith,
00:51:34.92\00:51:37.39
or is it solely,
00:51:37.39\00:51:38.66
from my understanding
what Arminians are saying,
00:51:40.00\00:51:42.30
it's just solely your faith.
00:51:42.30\00:51:43.63
If you just have faith
in what the gospel says,
00:51:43.63\00:51:46.53
then that's what it is.
00:51:46.53\00:51:47.80
Or did Christ die
for His people alone
00:51:47.80\00:51:49.70
and only His
sheep hear His voice?
00:51:49.70\00:51:51.17
- All right.
00:51:51.17\00:51:52.67
Well, you have opened the
big box of Christian questions
00:51:52.67\00:51:55.28
right there.
00:51:55.28\00:51:56.58
And for our
friends that are listening,
00:51:56.58\00:51:58.75
one of the great
debates among Christians,
00:51:58.75\00:52:01.12
you might call it
predestination and free will,
00:52:01.12\00:52:04.12
you've got John
Wesley on one side
00:52:04.12\00:52:06.29
and George
Whitfield on the other,
00:52:06.29\00:52:07.69
or Calvin
00:52:07.69\00:52:09.86
and Arminius,
00:52:09.86\00:52:11.93
is where you get
Arminianism, Calvinism.
00:52:11.93\00:52:14.46
And the idea is
did Jesus only die
00:52:14.46\00:52:17.90
for the ones that are saved
00:52:17.90\00:52:18.93
or did He die for everybody?
00:52:18.93\00:52:20.57
We believe that Bible
says Christ died for all
00:52:21.67\00:52:24.21
and that means all.
00:52:24.21\00:52:25.77
Not all took advantage
of that great sacrifice.
00:52:25.77\00:52:28.94
And then the other question
that's in that question is that,
00:52:28.94\00:52:33.75
does the Lord just appoint
from Heaven who's gonna be saved
00:52:33.75\00:52:36.75
and then they really have no
will or choice in the matter?
00:52:36.75\00:52:40.36
And Arminian
Christians believe, well,
00:52:40.36\00:52:44.36
or you might even have
Baptists that are called
00:52:44.36\00:52:46.03
Free Will Baptists,
00:52:46.03\00:52:47.10
they believe in
people do have a choice.
00:52:47.10\00:52:49.93
To say that
humans have no choice
00:52:51.10\00:52:54.14
and the majority of
people will be lost,
00:52:54.14\00:52:56.34
Jesus says, "Broad is the
way that leads to destruction,"
00:52:56.34\00:52:59.44
that implies that God
made a lot of creatures
00:52:59.44\00:53:02.11
that have no choice but to sin,
00:53:02.11\00:53:04.35
and then He's gonna
punish them for sinning.
00:53:04.35\00:53:06.88
So that almost
would make God sound like
00:53:06.88\00:53:09.28
an accomplice in the sin.
00:53:09.28\00:53:11.05
And that He makes
creatures and said,
00:53:11.05\00:53:12.42
"I'm not gonna give you
an opportunity to be saved
00:53:12.42\00:53:13.99
"or have a change of heart.
00:53:13.99\00:53:15.06
"Or you don't
even have a choice,
00:53:15.06\00:53:16.12
"but I'm gonna
punish you for sinning."
00:53:16.12\00:53:19.13
- You know Pastor Doug,
00:53:19.13\00:53:20.23
I think where some
of the confusion is,
00:53:20.23\00:53:21.53
when you look at some of
those passage in New Testament,
00:53:21.53\00:53:23.10
it talks about God
predestinating some,
00:53:23.10\00:53:26.40
people think, "Well, is
that has to do with salvation?"
00:53:26.40\00:53:28.30
No, it's not a
predestination for salvation,
00:53:28.30\00:53:30.37
but it is God who
chose, who predestined Israel
00:53:30.37\00:53:34.38
to be the people through
whom the Messiah would come.
00:53:34.38\00:53:37.05
And that was a
choice that God made.
00:53:37.05\00:53:39.21
So there is a
distinction between individual
00:53:39.21\00:53:43.12
predestination versus a
nation being chosen by God for a
00:53:43.12\00:53:46.96
specific purpose. - Right.
00:53:46.96\00:53:48.06
- And that's where
the confusion comes in.
00:53:48.06\00:53:48.72
Of course, individually,
00:53:48.72\00:53:49.82
God wants each of us
to choose to serve Him
00:53:49.82\00:53:52.56
and it's the goodness of
God that leads us to repentance.
00:53:52.56\00:53:55.23
We can't repent
without the Spirit of God.
00:53:55.23\00:53:57.30
- Yeah.
00:53:57.30\00:53:58.57
- But that Spirit
is available to all
00:53:58.57\00:53:59.87
because He's not
willing that any should perish,
00:53:59.87\00:54:01.17
but that all
should come to salvation.
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- Exactly.
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People do have the
freedom to make decisions,
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and to process.
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You know, the longer
I've spent time studying this,
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the more I've come to
believe that the truth
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actually lies
somewhere in the middle.
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In that, there's no
doubt that God is involved
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in drawing us.
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So He's expressing His
sovereignty in drawing the
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heart, but we must
respond to that drawing.
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And He does give us freedom,
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'cause you can't love if
you're pre-programmed to love.
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It's forced.
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Well, friends. Thank you.
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All right, question number one.
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When Lucifer was
cast out of Heaven,
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was this before or
after Earth was created?
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- That's Revelation 12.
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And we believe that was before.
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That war in Heaven was before
the creation of the world,
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and as Satan went
roaming through the universe
00:55:58.12\00:56:00.42
trying to recruit support,
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he then came to our
planet shortly after we've been
00:56:02.02\00:56:04.79
created. But he
was cast out first.
00:56:04.79\00:56:06.39
- Okay. Question number two.
00:56:06.39\00:56:07.46
Is it possible to
hasten God's second coming?
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- Peter tells us that
as we share the gospel,
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it says we look forward to
00:56:14.87\00:56:16.57
and hasten the
coming of the Lord.
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So Christ said that after the
gospel goes to all the world,
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then the end will come.
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We can participate in taking
the gospel to all the world
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and so, in a secondary sense,
we're helping to hasten that.
00:56:25.88\00:56:29.22
- Okay, next
question that we have.
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Luke 17, Matthew 24 says:
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Two men will be in one bed,
the one taken, the other left.
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Two women grinding at the
mill, one taken, the other left.
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Is this talking
about a secret rapture?
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- Well, he is talking
about when the Lord comes,
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but he's not talking
about a secret rapture,
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'cause the disciples ask
in the same passage, "Where?"
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Meaning, where are they taken?
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And Jesus says, "Wherever
the eagles, the vultures are,
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"or wherever the body is,
00:56:52.97\00:56:54.24
"that's where the
vultures gather together."
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And so it sounds like
the ones who are taken
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are taken away in judgment.
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Talks about the wicked,
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who the flood came
and took them away.
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Children of Israel would disobey
00:57:03.28\00:57:04.62
and they were carried
away to Babylon or Assyria.
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So some folks have totally
misunderstood this passage
00:57:08.22\00:57:11.76
and I don't think it's talking
about the secret rapture.
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Talk about two
classes, the saved and the lost.
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- All right.
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Well thank you, friends,
again for your questions.
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