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Now here's your host from
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Pastor Doug Batchelor.
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- Hello friends.
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Would you like to
hear an amazing fact?
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The Welwitschia is one
of the strangest plants
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in all of the world.
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Firstly, because
they're unusually ugly,
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of course, that might
be a matter of opinion.
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They got two large strap like
leaves that continuously grow
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from a short woody unbranched
stem along the ground.
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Over time the
ends of the leaves die
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and dry forming a
twisted and frayed bundle
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at the base of the
plant, like a big rat's nest.
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They're also interesting because
they live a very long time.
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Carbon-14 dating of the
largest plants have shown
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that several individuals
are at least 1,500 years old.
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Some are believed to be
as much as 2,000 years old
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making them the
oldest plants in the world.
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Even though they've
got a shallow taproot,
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these incredible plants survive
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and thrive in the
deserts of Namibia
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where temperatures can
easily reach 130 degrees.
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How do they do it?
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During the night and morning,
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they absorb any
moisture in the air.
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That's a good lesson for
all of us to make the most
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of what little we have (laughs)
to get through fiery trials.
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- Absolutely, I mean,
when you look at the pictures,
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you don't think, well,
it's not much to look at,
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but it's a fascinating plant.
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For one, it lives a very
long time, more than 1,500,
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almost 2,000 years.
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Of course,
redwood trees are known
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to also live for a very
long time, but here is a-
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- A plant. -
Almost just like a bush.
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Yeah, like a plant.
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Something else interesting about
the plant I was looking at,
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it releases a red pigment
when it's very hot in its leaves
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and the leaves
actually turn reddish,
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which helps to reflect
the radiation of the sun.
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And when it's
cooler in the desert areas,
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then it releases more chlorophyl
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and the leaves turn
very bright or deep green,
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which helps to
absorb energy, so-
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- And I'm guessing
that they must taste awful
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or some camel would've
eaten them for 1,500 years-
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- (mumbles) some animal
animal would eat it, but-
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- It must smell
or taste terrible.
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- (mumbles) leave them alone.
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(laughs)
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So here we have a plant
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that's able to
endure incredible hardships.
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It patiently waits
until the moisture comes
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and it's able to just thrive
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under these very
difficult conditions.
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It reminds me of some Christians
who are able to thrive
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even though they're going
through some difficult trials.
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- Yeah, when I
lived up in the mountains,
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I lived in the Desert
Mountains for several years,
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and, well, about
a year and a half,
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and they have
barrel cactus up there.
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And during the dry season, they
shrivel and they get skinny,
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they got pleats in them.
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And then if you have
a rain in the desert,
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a day or two or a few
hours of rain, you'll see them,
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they soak up
every drop of water,
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and they
literally, they swell up,
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and they slowly then
use that water to survive.
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So that's what a Christian
needs to do as long as we can,
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we need to soak up the
living water, the Word of God,
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and store our minds with truth
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to get us through
the times of trouble.
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The reason that
Noah survived the flood
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is because he stored it
with food and resources,
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he couldn't drink
the salt water to get him
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and the other
animals through that storm.
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And, friends, now is the
time for us to be storing up
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the truth of God's Word and
the living water of God's Spirit
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to get us through the
fiery trials that come.
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There's a verse in
the Bible, Pastor Ross,
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it's in 1 Peter 4:12-13.
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"Beloved, do
not think it strange
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concerning the fiery
trial that is to try you,
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as though some strange
thing has happened to you,
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but rejoice to the extent
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that you partake of
Christ's sufferings,
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that when His glory is revealed,
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you may also be
glad with exceeding joy."
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God promises He can get us
through those fiery trials,
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and those trials
actually shape and prepare us.
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- Mm-hmm, absolutely.
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We have a book that
gives encouragement,
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some biblical principles
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of how we can endure
trials and difficulties.
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The Bible tells us
everyone who chooses
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to live a godly life- - Hmm.
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- Will experience
difficulties and trials.
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So how we're to react
when these things happen?
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The book is called,
"When The Brook Dries Up",
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that's "Why Do
Christians Suffer?"
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And I think it'll be an
encouragement for anyone
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going through some difficulties.
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Just call and ask,
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we'll be happy to send
this to anyone for free.
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The number to
call is 800-835-6747.
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And again, just ask
for the book, it's called,
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"When The Brook Dried Up."
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And I think it's
referring to the story there,
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Pastor Doug, of
Elijah when he was riding...
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Or during the three and a
half year drought in Israel
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when God provided
water and food at the brook,
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but then the
brook dried up. - Yeah.
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- And yet God had another
plan for where he was to go.
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- Yeah, He
always, if that happens,
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He will supply
another way, and He did.
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- Absolutely.
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Again, we wanna welcome those
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who are joining us
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those joining us on
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Also those listening on radio,
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both in various local
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If you have a- -
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- Oh, and the
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Yeah. - We're also on YouTube.
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Well, Pastor Doug,
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we always like to
start with a word of prayer,
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so let's do that.
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Dear Father, once again,
thank You for this opportunity
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that we have to be
able to open up Your Word
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and study together.
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And, Lord, it's Your Book,
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so we ask for the Holy
Spirit to come and guide us,
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lead us all into a
clear and a full understanding
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of Bible truth
found in the Scriptures.
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Be with those who are listening
wherever they might be,
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and we ask this in Jesus' name.
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Amen. - Amen.
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- We're gonna go to our
first caller this evening,
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we have Risen in
Los Angeles, California.
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Risen, welcome to the program.
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- [Risen] Hi,
(mumbles) praise Jesus.
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Thank you, Pastor Doug. - Yes.
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- [Risen] Thank
you, Pastor Ross.
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It's been a year or so
since I spoke with you,
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but I don't wanna
go around the bush,
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I wanna go direct to my question
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because I know you
have a lot of people
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who want to ask
questions. - Sure.
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- [Risen] I have a
question about jewelry.
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- Mm-hmm.
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- [Risen] I heard
your message about jewelry,
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and you said that jewelry
cause people to have pride.
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I wore jewelry,
Pastor Doug, in...
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- Did we lose you?
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Are you there? (Risen mumbles)
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All right, go ahead.
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Just so you wear jewelry,
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are you wondering if
it's wrong to wear jewelry?
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- [Risen] I wore
jewelry in moderately, okay?
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- [Doug] Uh-huh.
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- [Risen] And
jewelry goes around my wrist,
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reminds me of heaven
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that I'm gonna be
walking in the street of gold.
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It doesn't give me pride at all.
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- Well, you do want me to
give you the Bible reasons?
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Yeah, do you want me to
give you the Bible reasons
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for what I said? - Sir,
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I'm not done
with my question yet,
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if you can finish me up. - Okay.
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- [Risen] In the Bible, there
are references about jewelry,
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like the prodigal son,
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the father gave his son a
ring when he came back to him.
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- Mm-hmm. - And also in Psalms,
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with David, it's
full of jewelry there too.
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So I don't know
what's wrong with jewelry
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when it comes to moderation.
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So go ahead, Pastor Doug.
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- All right, thank you, Risen.
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Yeah, no, I appreciate it.
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And a matter of fact, I
could even add to your argument.
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It tells us in Ezekiel
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about how God adorned
His bride with jewelry.
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And so I'm not denying
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that people in the
Bible wear jewelry.
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And let me make it very clear
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in case anyone out
there misunderstands.
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There's gonna be a lot of people
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in heaven that wore jewelry.
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So, yeah, I don't know,
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I've answered that
question many times,
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so I don't know
which answer you heard,
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sometimes it focuses on
a different aspect of it.
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But I was saying that there are
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a number of
Scriptures in the Bible
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that talk about jewelry
being connected with pride.
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And one of them
is in Isaiah chapter,
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I think it's
Isaiah chapter 3, it says,
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the daughters of
Jerusalem are proud,
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and they go walking
and mincing as they go,
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and it describes all
their jewelry in detail.
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And then you can
even read about Lucifer,
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it talks about all the precious
stones that covered Lucifer.
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When the children of
Israel went out of Egypt,
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jewelry was money in Bible times
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because they had no paper money,
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and so they used
to trade with jewelry.
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When Eliezer wanted to
give a dowry to Rebekah,
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it says he gave her a bracelet,
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it tells how much it
weighed because it was money.
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The children of Israel
ended up making a golden calf
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out of their
jewelry and worshiping it.
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And so many Christians
through history have believed
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that because of
statements where Paul says,
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let the adorning not
be the outward adorning,
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the wearing of gold
and putting on apparel.
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And Paul talks about
not with gold or pearls
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or precious
adornment, but with modesty.
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And so, people,
they're wondering,
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well, if I just wear a
little bit modestly, how's that?
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I take the position
that, how much is too much?
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So, by the way, I have a
book written by the same title,
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and you may have read that,
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it's called,
"Jewelry: How Much Is Too Much?"
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And the reason is that
sometimes by your example,
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some people, they're concerned
about their appearance,
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they have low self-esteem,
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and they put on
a lot of jewelry,
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and it can be a
stumbling block for somebody,
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so to avoid having
anyone else stumble.
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And let's face it, a lot
of people wear a lot of bling,
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and they spend a lot of money.
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So, if something is gonna
make your brother stumble,
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don't do it.
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Paul says, "If eating meat's
gonna make my brother stumble,"
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he's talking about
eating meat offered to idols,
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he said, "I won't eat it."
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"I don't wanna do anything
to make my brother stumble."
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There will be people in
heaven that drink alcohol.
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I don't drink any alcohol
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because some
people will get addicted,
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and it's a bad witness,
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I also think
there's good health reasons.
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So I think the reason is,
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for Christian
modesty, a few years ago...
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I'll say one more thing on that.
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A few years ago,
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a number of
televangelists got into trouble,
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they fell morally,
and it became very public.
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But the same televangelist,
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they were always
parading their Rolexes
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and talking about
their Bentley cars
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and their wives
were always dressed in
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very flamboyant
attire, lots of jewels.
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And the world was
making fun of them,
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and they said, you're
begging for all the money
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from these poor people, and
look at how you're bedecked.
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So I've always
taken the position that,
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I think if a Christian's
gonna make a mistake,
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make a mistake on
the side of modesty.
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God is not gonna say to
me when I stand before Him
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in the judgment,
"Doug, I can't let you in."
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"Why not, Lord?"
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"You didn't
wear enough jewelry."
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So I know some
people out there think,
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"Boy, you're kind
of radical", but maybe.
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- Well, God knows the
human heart better than we do.
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- Yeah. - And if God asked us
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not to do something, ultimately
it's for our own good.
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We find an example in the
Bible, in Exodus chapter 33,
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before the children of Israel
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were to enter
into the Promised Land,
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one of the things
that God told them to do is
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remove all of your jewelry.
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He knew that that would be
a stumbling block for them.
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And, of course, like you say,
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we wanna set a good
example for those around us.
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So, Risen, I'd encourage you
to call and ask for that book,
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it's called,
"Jewelry: How Much Is Too Much?"
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And that's for
anyone wanting to know,
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what does the Bible
say about this topic?
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The number to
call is 800-835-6747.
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And again, just
ask for the book,
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it's called,
"Jewelry: How Much Is Too Much?"
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We've got Mark
listening in Tokyo, Japan.
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That's where the
Olympic Games were.
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Mark, welcome to the program.
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- [Mark] Yes,
hello, Pastor Doug,
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and Pastor Jean. - Yeah.
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- I'm in actually Mitaka, Tokyo,
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we're right next to the
park where the bike races began,
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and- - Oh, the Olympics?
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- [Mark] Yeah,
all the way through
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around Mount
Fuji to the Koku area.
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And, boy, I don't know,
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I don't know how they
didn't keel over in the heat,
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but they made
it, so that's good.
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- Yeah, that's good.
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Well, I'm glad you got
a front row seat there.
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(Mark laughs)
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- [Mark]
Actually my question is,
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I think it's a very simple one,
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but yet I get so much
opposition in this question,
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and in this
particular Bible verse,
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and it's Ecclesiastes 9:5.
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"For the living
know that they will die;
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but the dead know nothing,
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and they have no more reward,
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for the memory of
them is forgotten."
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And what I'm having
so much opposition is,
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is the very last verse of,
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"For the memory of
them is forgotten."
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My version is the memory of
the person that is deceased,
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that is dead,
that is now sleeping,
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their memory is
wiped out and gone,
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but I'm getting people saying,
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it's the memory of people
that are alive that knew them.
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And I'm thinking, well, my
parents died many years ago,
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and I still remember them.
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So I'm not, somehow or other,
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I need clarification
on this particular,
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which what it mean.
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- What is
forgotten when it says,
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"The memory of
them is forgotten"?
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I'm looking at the Young's
Literal Translation here,
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and it words it for,
"The living know they'll die,
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but the dead know not anything,
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and there is no
more to them a reward
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for their
remembrance has been forgotten."
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And I think if you go
by this, Solomon is saying,
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it could be
taken one of two ways.
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Solomon, I think here
is saying that over time,
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people do forget
about the living,
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but I think it
also could be said
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that that person's memories,
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they're not thinking
anything when they're dead.
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So it doesn't mean
they're not gonna be resurrected
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to have any
memories, but it just means
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that they're not remembering
anything when they're dead.
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So there's kind of two
ways you can look at that verse,
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but either way
fits with good theology.
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- And, of course, the memory
of those who are forgotten,
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it's talking in general terms.
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There are certain individuals,
I mean, our family members,
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our parents that
we would remember,
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but even if you think
back four or five generations,
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even in your own
family, do you remember-
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- Unless you're
in a history book.
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- Yeah, your
ancestry. - It's very few.
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- So I think it's
talking in general terms.
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The reality is
that when a person dies,
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their own
memory ceases in death,
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but over time their
contribution to this life
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is also forgotten unless...
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It's interesting,
unless they played a role
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in helping to
lead others to Christ,
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and then that gets perpetuated.
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- Right. - So we can.
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I have a memory, and that is
in sharing Christ with others.
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Does that help, Mark?
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- [Mark] Yeah, so what
you're saying is really,
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it's kind of a dual answer.
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It's really the dead, for
the person that is now sleeping,
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his memory is now forgotten,
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and then the people over
time and forget about them,
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and what they- - Mm-hmm.
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- [Mark] What their actions
and what they've done on earth.
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- Yeah, Solomon,
you look at the...
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What do you call it,
the context of everything
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he's saying in
chapter 9, he is saying,
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the important thing is life.
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He says, "To all the
living there is hope,
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for a living dog is
better than a dead lion."
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And he says, several
times he talks about,
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as the man dies,
so dies the beast.
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He's saying, if you're
making your treasure down here,
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it's really a waste
because this life is temporary.
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That's what he's really saying.
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He concludes the
whole book by saying,
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what's the conclusion?
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Fear God and
keep His commandments
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for this is the
whole duty of man,
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for God will bring
every work into judgment
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with every secret thing,
whether it be good or evil.
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So he's basically saying,
don't live for this life alone,
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think about the
life that will last
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because you're gonna die,
and this life will be over.
00:17:06.52\00:17:09.49
So, but if you fear God
and keep His commandments,
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there is a judgment, and
obviously there's a judgment,
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there's a reward.
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So that's how he
concludes the whole book.
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- All right, well,
thank you for your call, Mark.
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We do have a study
guide, it's called,
00:17:19.73\00:17:20.94
"Are the Dead Really Dead?"
00:17:20.94\00:17:22.24
And it talks
about the subject of,
00:17:22.24\00:17:23.61
what happens when a person dies.
00:17:23.61\00:17:25.41
And we'll be happy to send
this to anyone in North America,
00:17:25.41\00:17:27.58
the number to
call is 800-835-6747,
00:17:27.58\00:17:31.41
and you can ask
for the study guide,
00:17:31.41\00:17:32.68
it's called, "Are
the Dead Really Dead?"
00:17:32.68\00:17:34.22
We also have a website,
it's called deathtruth.com.
00:17:34.22\00:17:37.22
And, of course, you
can access this website
00:17:37.22\00:17:39.05
anywhere around the world,
00:17:39.05\00:17:40.89
and it's filled
with all kinds of
00:17:40.89\00:17:42.62
wonderful Bible verses,
sermons, study material.
00:17:42.62\00:17:46.03
So if you wanna learn
more about the subject,
00:17:46.03\00:17:47.83
take a look at deathtruth.com.
00:17:47.83\00:17:50.60
Next caller we have is Robert,
and he's listening from...
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Let's see,
Robert is in Washington.
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Robert, welcome to the program.
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- [Robert] Yes, hello.
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Thank you for taking my call.
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- Sure.
00:18:01.68\00:18:02.68
- [Robert] Okay,
yeah, I have a question
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about Isaiah 65:23.
00:18:06.11\00:18:08.58
- [Doug] Yeah.
00:18:08.58\00:18:09.98
- [Robert] And it's,
"They shall not labor in vain,
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nor bring forth for trouble;
00:18:12.12\00:18:13.79
for they are the seed
of the blessed of the Lord,
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and their offspring with them."
00:18:15.89\00:18:18.03
Okay, I had always
understood this to be talking
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about the survivors of the
seven-year tribulation period,
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and this is talking
about the 1,000 year kingdom,
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and those are the
children born without trouble.
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What is your take on that?
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- All right, great question.
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Keep in mind,
Isaiah has prophesied
00:18:39.21\00:18:41.05
before the Jews were
attacked by the Babylonians.
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He lived quite
awhile before that,
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but he's foretelling a time
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when they would go
through a great trouble,
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but there would be
another period of peace
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when they would come back
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and their
descendants would be blessed.
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And that was during
the time of Ezra-Nehemiah
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got watched over them and...
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But it's really a bigger
picture of talking about heaven.
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And you can read here,
if you go back to verse 17,
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"For behold I create
new heavens and a new earth;
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and the former will not be
remembered nor come into mind."
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And so he begins
to talk about just,
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there'll be no more
weeping in Jerusalem,
00:19:17.62\00:19:20.89
my people will be at joy.
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It's like Jesus said,
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there's no more pain
or suffering or sorrow,
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in Revelation 21 and 22.
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So it says, they'll
not plant and another eat,
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they'll not build
and another inhabit.
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They used to plant
their vineyards and then they,
00:19:32.83\00:19:34.80
like in the story of
Gideon, the Midianites came
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and took all their produce,
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or they'd chase them out,
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they'd move into their houses.
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And he said, "You will long
enjoy the fruit of your hands."
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Now I don't think it's saying,
there's gonna be new births,
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it says you and your offspring,
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meaning you and
your children will enjoy
00:19:47.85\00:19:51.45
the benefits of this
eternal, peaceful kingdom,
00:19:51.45\00:19:54.49
but I think that's
after the millennium.
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- Yeah, if you look on a
few more verses, verse 25 says,
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"The wolf shall
lay down with the lamb
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and they will feed together."
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So that's clearly
talking about the earth made new
00:20:01.86\00:20:04.47
at the end of the 1,000 years.
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It's also interesting,
specifically Pastor Doug, 23,
00:20:06.20\00:20:09.10
it talks about, "You
shall not bring forth
00:20:09.10\00:20:11.34
children for trouble,
00:20:11.34\00:20:13.44
and your descendants
will be blessed to the Lord,
00:20:13.44\00:20:15.78
your offspring with them."
00:20:15.78\00:20:17.21
So the family unit will
still be intact in heaven.
00:20:17.21\00:20:20.88
Now it doesn't mean that
you're gonna be giving birth
00:20:20.88\00:20:22.85
to children in heaven.
00:20:22.85\00:20:24.82
The children that you have here
00:20:24.82\00:20:26.79
that perhaps will be
alive when Jesus comes
00:20:26.79\00:20:29.26
or have died
and are resurrected,
00:20:29.26\00:20:31.06
the children will
grow up in heaven,
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but the family unit
will still be blessed.
00:20:32.79\00:20:34.36
- Yeah. - And there won't be any
00:20:34.36\00:20:35.76
fear for the future.
00:20:35.76\00:20:37.10
- Yeah, and it's actually the,
00:20:37.10\00:20:38.53
it's the
antithesis of what Jesus said
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on the way to the cross.
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He told the
daughters of Jerusalem-
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- Hmm. - "Don't weep for Me,
00:20:42.57\00:20:43.94
but weep for you
and your children."
00:20:43.94\00:20:45.54
- Mm-hmm.
00:20:45.54\00:20:46.84
- Because a
great trial was coming.
00:20:46.84\00:20:48.08
Here He says, "Your
children will be safe."
00:20:48.08\00:20:49.91
- Right. - It doesn't mean
00:20:49.91\00:20:50.75
they'll be procreating,
00:20:50.75\00:20:51.85
it just means that- - Right.
00:20:51.85\00:20:53.15
- Your children will be
safe in the new kingdom,
00:20:53.15\00:20:54.15
they'll have peace.
00:20:54.15\00:20:55.55
- All right, well
thanks for your call, Robert.
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Hope that helps.
00:20:57.05\00:20:58.15
We got Hosen or Josen.
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Josey, I think it
is, in Washington.
00:21:00.96\00:21:03.43
Josue, welcome to the program.
00:21:03.43\00:21:06.09
- Hello, Pastor
Doug. - Hi, welcome.
00:21:07.30\00:21:10.03
- Now how do say your name?
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- [Josue] You say it Josue.
00:21:12.63\00:21:14.24
- Josue, okay - Josue, okay.
00:21:14.24\00:21:15.20
- Thank you. - Thanks.
00:21:15.20\00:21:17.61
- [Josue] Yep.
00:21:17.61\00:21:18.97
My question is on 1 Samuel 28.
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- Okay. - And
my question is how,
00:21:22.28\00:21:25.18
when I explain to a new believer
00:21:25.18\00:21:28.95
that because in that chapter,
00:21:28.95\00:21:31.89
Saul wanted to get to
Samuel, but he wasn't alive.
00:21:32.95\00:21:36.73
And so how would I
explain to a new believer
00:21:36.73\00:21:39.49
that Samuel wasn't alive,
but the Bible says he was.
00:21:39.49\00:21:42.93
For example, in verse 15,
00:21:42.93\00:21:45.07
he says, "And
Samuel said to Saul."
00:21:45.07\00:21:47.77
How would I explain
to someone like that?
00:21:47.77\00:21:50.41
- Yeah, well, I think that
for one thing, the context is,
00:21:50.41\00:21:53.58
does a witch have the
power to resurrect a believer?
00:21:53.58\00:21:58.55
Does the devil have the
power to resurrect a believer?
00:21:59.68\00:22:01.25
And I think the
unspoken answer is,
00:22:01.25\00:22:03.85
well, and that
would really be bizarre.
00:22:03.85\00:22:06.15
I think it's seeing this
apparition that looked like
00:22:06.15\00:22:09.09
Samuel. So for the means of
telling the story, they gotta
00:22:09.09\00:22:11.36
say, what do you
call this apparition?
00:22:11.36\00:22:13.43
It claims to be Samuel.
00:22:13.43\00:22:15.16
And there's another
place that Pastor Ross,
00:22:16.06\00:22:17.73
I think is going to
right now in Chronicles
00:22:17.73\00:22:20.47
where it explains what Saul did.
00:22:20.47\00:22:21.87
And it's says,
Saul actually died,
00:22:21.87\00:22:24.04
not just because of
his pride in his rebellion,
00:22:24.04\00:22:26.84
but because he went to a medium,
00:22:26.84\00:22:29.01
and he was
consulting evil spirits.
00:22:29.01\00:22:31.51
The Bible says, "Do
not go to a necromancer,
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somebody who
speaks to the dead."
00:22:33.98\00:22:35.95
Paul said that people
when they worship idols,
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they don't realize
they're worshiping devils.
00:22:39.59\00:22:41.86
And the Bible talks
about Satan as devils
00:22:41.86\00:22:44.69
that work miracles.
00:22:44.69\00:22:46.09
Satan himself can be transformed
into an angel of light.
00:22:46.09\00:22:49.13
Satan can bring down fire from
heaven and create illusions.
00:22:50.60\00:22:54.24
And so there's
just a lot of Scriptures
00:22:54.24\00:22:56.24
that explain that
there are evil spirits
00:22:56.24\00:22:59.57
that can masquerade this way.
00:22:59.57\00:23:01.78
Do you have that, Pastor Ross?
00:23:01.78\00:23:03.51
- I'm just looking for a passage
00:23:03.51\00:23:04.61
that I found the one in 1 Psalm,
00:23:04.61\00:23:06.18
which is the one
we're talking about.
00:23:06.18\00:23:07.48
Let me see if- - Yeah.
00:23:07.48\00:23:08.32
- I can pull it up here.
00:23:08.32\00:23:09.62
I'm familiar with that verse.
00:23:09.62\00:23:11.99
- So yeah, it- - You gotta get
00:23:11.99\00:23:13.42
the wording just right. -
Yeah, it talks about how he-
00:23:13.42\00:23:15.29
- Yeah, here it
is, 1 Chronicles 10:13.
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That's the one,
it says- - Go ahead.
00:23:18.43\00:23:21.00
- It says, "So Saul
died for his transgression
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which he
committed against the Lord,
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even against the Word of
the Lord, which he kept not,
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and also for
asking counsel of one
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that had a familiar
spirit, to enquire of it."
00:23:29.00\00:23:32.14
So there we, it
says- - It's not Lord,
00:23:32.14\00:23:33.61
it's not Samuel,
it's a familiar spirit.
00:23:33.61\00:23:35.41
- Yeah, that's right. -
And that's what they used
00:23:35.41\00:23:36.58
for demons and
(laughs) fallen angels.
00:23:36.58\00:23:39.48
Does that help a
little bit, Josue?
00:23:39.48\00:23:41.48
- [Josue] Yes, it does.
00:23:42.38\00:23:44.09
- All righty, thanks
so much for your question.
00:23:44.09\00:23:45.89
We do have a lesson
on the Witch of Endor,
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and it's in the historical
series of the landmark series.
00:23:49.19\00:23:53.19
- Mm-hmm.
00:23:53.19\00:23:54.83
- And it's called, I
think the Witch of Endor.
00:23:54.83\00:23:56.13
- If you'd like to
learn more about that,
00:23:56.13\00:23:57.70
I think in this case, go
to the Amazing Facts website.
00:23:57.70\00:24:00.27
You can actually read- - Yeah.
00:24:00.27\00:24:01.40
- The lesson for
free online. - Mm-hmm.
00:24:01.40\00:24:02.60
- And it's called
"The Witch of Endor",
00:24:02.60\00:24:04.17
it's part of the
historical set of lessons
00:24:04.17\00:24:06.11
or the landmark set of lessons.
00:24:06.11\00:24:07.34
- Right. -
They're in both of those.
00:24:07.34\00:24:08.91
Next caller
that we have is John,
00:24:08.91\00:24:10.21
and he is listening in Florida.
00:24:10.21\00:24:11.35
John, welcome to the program.
00:24:11.35\00:24:12.98
- [John] Hi
pastors, how are you doing?
00:24:14.28\00:24:16.05
- Doing really well, thank you.
00:24:16.05\00:24:17.82
- [John] Well, I'm
calling on behalf of my wife.
00:24:19.22\00:24:22.26
We've been studying,
00:24:22.26\00:24:24.43
and I'm not as knowledgeable
obviously as you guys,
00:24:26.80\00:24:29.96
and she's wondering
why Seventh-Day Adventists
00:24:29.96\00:24:34.34
keep Catholic holidays?
00:24:34.34\00:24:37.14
- [Doug] Such as?
00:24:37.14\00:24:38.21
- [John] Easter
primarily, but Christmas,
00:24:39.21\00:24:41.34
and I guess these were
based on pagan holidays,
00:24:41.34\00:24:45.25
and her coming from Orthodox,
00:24:45.25\00:24:46.95
they follow
different days obviously
00:24:46.95\00:24:49.32
than they do here in America.
00:24:49.32\00:24:51.15
- All right, well, let's
jump in here, first of all.
00:24:51.15\00:24:53.82
Yeah, Seventh-Day Adventist,
when you say, keep them,
00:24:53.82\00:24:56.32
we don't, we don't, (laughs)
00:24:56.32\00:24:58.66
we don't have a special
mass on Christmas or Easter.
00:24:58.66\00:25:02.83
We meet, in other words,
if Easter is on Wednesday,
00:25:02.83\00:25:07.40
I don't know any churches that
say, let's get together on...
00:25:07.40\00:25:09.74
Well, Easter is always on
Sunday, isn't it? (laughs)
00:25:09.74\00:25:12.07
I don't know any churches
that get together on Sunday-
00:25:12.07\00:25:14.14
- [Jean] Yeah.
00:25:14.14\00:25:15.08
- Yeah, Christmas on Wednesday,
00:25:15.08\00:25:16.28
we don't all flock to the church
00:25:16.28\00:25:17.71
and have a mass or
anything like that.
00:25:17.71\00:25:20.02
So we certainly don't.
00:25:20.02\00:25:21.85
And whether or not, it's
one denomination or another,
00:25:21.85\00:25:24.25
we wanna know what
the Bible says, right?
00:25:24.25\00:25:26.19
That's the main thing,
Jean. - (mumbles) exactly.
00:25:26.19\00:25:29.02
- So I don't know, you
wanna jump in, Pastor Ross?
00:25:29.02\00:25:30.73
- Yeah, I think it's important
00:25:30.73\00:25:31.89
for us to
understand a little bit.
00:25:31.89\00:25:33.09
I mean, we're
quite open and honest,
00:25:33.09\00:25:35.56
we don't believe Jesus
was born December 20...
00:25:35.56\00:25:37.63
What is it?
00:25:37.63\00:25:38.50
The 25th of December.
00:25:38.50\00:25:39.60
We don't believe
Jesus (Doug laughs)
00:25:39.60\00:25:40.44
was born December 25,
00:25:40.44\00:25:41.87
and I think there's some
good biblical reasons for that.
00:25:41.87\00:25:43.97
We know the history a
little bit about that.
00:25:43.97\00:25:46.07
And, of course, Easter, to peg
it to one particular weekend,
00:25:46.07\00:25:50.78
it still moves in the calendar,
00:25:52.38\00:25:53.95
so even Easter is
not exactly the time.
00:25:53.95\00:25:56.08
- Yeah. - I mean if you go
00:25:56.08\00:25:57.82
by the days, they'll
move throughout the week,
00:25:57.82\00:26:00.19
and they pick a
Sunday and they say,
00:26:00.19\00:26:01.49
well, this is the
day. - Yeah, may not land
00:26:01.49\00:26:02.76
on a Passover. - It
doesn't always land-
00:26:02.76\00:26:03.73
- Yeah. - On a Sunday.
00:26:03.73\00:26:05.06
But I think there's
nothing wrong in celebrating
00:26:05.06\00:26:07.86
or remembering the
resurrection of Jesus.
00:26:07.86\00:26:10.47
That's an
important event. - Sure.
00:26:10.47\00:26:11.77
- And also
remembering the death of Jesus,
00:26:11.77\00:26:13.87
but to keep that
day as a holy day,
00:26:13.87\00:26:16.67
as somehow being a sacred day,
00:26:16.67\00:26:18.81
I think that's the
issue, that's the concern.
00:26:18.81\00:26:21.41
- Yeah, there's no Bible
00:26:21.41\00:26:22.41
command to do that. - Exactly.
00:26:22.41\00:26:23.48
- But it is a scriptural event.
00:26:23.48\00:26:25.58
- Mm-hmm.
00:26:25.58\00:26:26.78
- So if you wanna
remember the Thursday
00:26:26.78\00:26:29.88
when Jesus had the last supper.
00:26:29.88\00:26:31.32
Well, I guess you can,
00:26:31.32\00:26:32.45
no one else celebrates it,
00:26:32.45\00:26:33.89
but I think we ought to
preach on everything Jesus did,
00:26:33.89\00:26:36.83
but yeah, there's no command
00:26:37.76\00:26:42.13
that we're supposed to
celebrate His birth on that day.
00:26:42.13\00:26:44.17
- One of the things
we try to do Pastor Doug,
00:26:44.17\00:26:45.53
talking about that
around Easter time,
00:26:45.53\00:26:47.57
we try to do a
communion service.
00:26:47.57\00:26:49.47
Some are connected
around that time of the year.
00:26:49.47\00:26:51.64
Now, of course, we don't
always get it on the day,
00:26:51.64\00:26:53.41
doesn't have to
be on the exact day,
00:26:53.41\00:26:55.21
but it's kind of neat
when the rest of the world
00:26:55.21\00:26:56.98
is talking about
the death, burial,
00:26:56.98\00:26:58.78
and resurrection of
Jesus for us to recognize
00:26:58.78\00:27:00.92
that through the institution
00:27:00.92\00:27:02.75
that Christ Himself established-
00:27:02.75\00:27:04.25
- That's not as sin to
give somebody a present
00:27:04.25\00:27:06.49
on the 23rd of
December, huh? - Yeah.
00:27:06.49\00:27:09.02
(Doug laughs) You could do that.
00:27:09.02\00:27:10.59
- If people are giving presents
00:27:10.59\00:27:12.06
in remembrance of God's gift,
00:27:12.06\00:27:14.36
that's probably as
good the time as any.
00:27:14.36\00:27:16.06
- Well, we do have
a book, it's called...
00:27:16.06\00:27:17.93
What is it called?
00:27:17.93\00:27:18.87
"Feast Days and Sabbaths."
00:27:18.87\00:27:20.24
No, wait.
00:27:20.24\00:27:21.47
There's another one.
- "Baptized Paganism."
00:27:21.47\00:27:22.77
- That's the one I'm thinking,
00:27:22.77\00:27:23.71
(laughs) I was looking for here,
00:27:23.71\00:27:25.11
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deals with some of this,
00:27:25.11\00:27:26.57
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00:27:28.21\00:27:29.58
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We've got Ms. Roe
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00:31:01.12\00:31:04.66
Ms. Roe, welcome to the program.
00:31:04.66\00:31:06.43
- My question is, I want to
know if Jesus is abiding in me?
00:31:07.60\00:31:10.70
It's been three years
since I've studied the Bible
00:31:10.70\00:31:12.93
and I want him to abide in me,
00:31:12.93\00:31:14.54
but I'm, the
nature of my heart I feel,
00:31:14.54\00:31:16.87
and I love Jesus, but I
think I love myself more.
00:31:16.87\00:31:20.84
I should just serve myself more
00:31:20.84\00:31:22.34
than I should just serve Him.
00:31:22.34\00:31:24.01
I have some
improvements in some areas,
00:31:24.01\00:31:25.81
but I feel like I don't do
those things with my efforts.
00:31:25.81\00:31:28.82
I mean, I do those
things with my efforts
00:31:28.82\00:31:31.15
rather than
depending on Him. - Hmm.
00:31:31.15\00:31:32.82
- [Roe] It's hard to obey Him,
00:31:32.82\00:31:34.32
and often fail to do so.
00:31:34.32\00:31:35.92
I pray and enjoy
studying His Words,
00:31:35.92\00:31:37.96
and I desire to know
Him, not as knowledge,
00:31:37.96\00:31:40.33
but with my heart, I
want to really know Him,
00:31:40.33\00:31:42.93
but I know that I don't
love with the love of Jesus.
00:31:42.93\00:31:44.83
When I ask others, I'm
told that the fact I want Him
00:31:44.83\00:31:47.74
providing me is
exactly the proof that He does,
00:31:47.74\00:31:50.57
But I also don't want to assume
and be confident about it,
00:31:50.57\00:31:54.34
well, if in fact
I don't let Him yet.
00:31:54.34\00:31:57.18
So what do you think?
00:31:57.18\00:31:58.85
- Yeah, great question.
00:31:58.85\00:32:01.05
You are not alone, there's
a lot of people out there,
00:32:01.05\00:32:03.79
they want to love Jesus more.
00:32:03.79\00:32:06.05
If someone came to
Christ and they said,
00:32:06.05\00:32:07.49
"Lord, what's the
greatest commandment?"
00:32:07.49\00:32:08.99
Jesus said, "Love the Lord
your God with all of your heart,
00:32:08.99\00:32:12.43
mind, soul, and strength,
00:32:12.43\00:32:13.63
and love your
neighbor as yourself."
00:32:13.63\00:32:15.53
Loving God with
all is a full-time job.
00:32:15.53\00:32:18.63
And so for the Christian,
00:32:18.63\00:32:21.30
you always want to be feasting
on the Word looking to Jesus,
00:32:21.30\00:32:25.11
talking to Jesus, and
it's an ongoing discipline
00:32:25.11\00:32:27.91
because in this life,
00:32:27.91\00:32:30.61
we're weak, the devil is
constantly trying to distract us
00:32:30.61\00:32:33.98
and derail us.
00:32:33.98\00:32:35.05
And God's very
loving and patience,
00:32:35.05\00:32:36.42
so don't get discouraged,
00:32:36.42\00:32:37.95
but you wanna
grow as a Christian.
00:32:37.95\00:32:39.79
And so, your devotional life,
00:32:39.79\00:32:42.36
the three most
important things you can do
00:32:42.36\00:32:43.76
to grow
spiritually is read the Word,
00:32:43.76\00:32:47.00
pray, and share your faith.
00:32:47.86\00:32:50.07
Do something to
try to help others.
00:32:50.07\00:32:51.87
Love the Lord and
love your neighbor.
00:32:51.87\00:32:53.70
So yeah, go ahead.
00:32:54.77\00:32:56.04
- We go to book, Pastor Doug,
00:32:56.04\00:32:57.31
it's called,
"Three Steps to Heaven."
00:32:57.31\00:32:58.54
And I think it emphasizes
those very three things
00:32:58.54\00:33:00.14
that you're talking
about, the importance of prayer,
00:33:00.14\00:33:01.71
Bible study, sharing our faith.
00:33:01.71\00:33:03.31
And it's an ongoing spirit,
00:33:03.31\00:33:04.78
the Apostle Paul,
this champion of faith,
00:33:04.78\00:33:08.15
and you just look at
the things that he did,
00:33:08.15\00:33:09.75
he is a prophet
inspired by the Spirit.
00:33:09.75\00:33:12.65
And yet he said,
"I have not obtained."
00:33:12.65\00:33:14.79
He said, "I die daily."
00:33:14.79\00:33:15.99
So it is an
ongoing daily experience
00:33:15.99\00:33:18.23
where we have to
surrender ourselves to Christ.
00:33:18.23\00:33:19.89
And we might not
be where we wanna be,
00:33:19.89\00:33:22.13
but we should by God's grace
not be where we started out,
00:33:22.13\00:33:25.27
there should be
spiritual growth in preparation.
00:33:25.27\00:33:27.47
- The Christian life,
as Paul says, it's a fight.
00:33:27.47\00:33:29.50
- Mm-hmm. - It's a race,
00:33:29.50\00:33:30.67
it's a wrestling
match, and- - Mm-hmm.
00:33:30.67\00:33:32.34
- But it's still a lot
better to be a Christian
00:33:33.38\00:33:35.24
than to be lost in the world
and be a slave of the devil.
00:33:35.24\00:33:37.41
- Hmm, absolutely.
00:33:37.41\00:33:38.78
- So there's some struggles,
but feast on the Word.
00:33:38.78\00:33:41.72
- And don't give up.
00:33:41.72\00:33:42.88
Every Christian
has those- - Yeah.
00:33:42.88\00:33:44.25
- Mountaintop
experiences where you sense
00:33:44.25\00:33:45.89
the presence of God
and you're filled with joy,
00:33:45.89\00:33:48.22
and it's just wonderful,
00:33:48.22\00:33:49.66
but you also have those moments
00:33:49.66\00:33:51.23
where you don't
feel that close to God.
00:33:51.23\00:33:54.20
It's at those times that
you need to exercise faith
00:33:54.20\00:33:56.36
and believe His Word that
He said He'd never leave us
00:33:56.36\00:33:58.33
nor forsake us- - Yep.
00:33:58.33\00:33:59.60
- And hold onto His
promises. - Absolutely.
00:33:59.60\00:34:01.60
So hope that
helps a little bit, Roe.
00:34:01.60\00:34:03.24
Get that book,
"Three Steps to Heaven",
00:34:03.24\00:34:04.67
it's free, just request
it, we'll send it to you.
00:34:04.67\00:34:06.78
- The number to
call is 800-835-6747.
00:34:06.78\00:34:10.71
You can ask for
the book, it's called,
00:34:10.71\00:34:11.95
"Three Steps to Heaven."
00:34:11.95\00:34:13.42
We'll be happy to send that
to anyone who calls and asks.
00:34:13.42\00:34:16.28
We've got Gill
listening from New York.
00:34:16.28\00:34:17.92
Gill, welcome to the program.
00:34:17.92\00:34:20.02
- Hi, good evening. - Evening.
00:34:20.02\00:34:22.79
And your question? - Yeah, hi.
00:34:22.79\00:34:24.29
Jean Ross, I remember
talking to you off the air,
00:34:24.29\00:34:26.26
and Doug Batchelor, I
remember you praying for me
00:34:26.26\00:34:27.86
off the air years ago too.
00:34:27.86\00:34:29.30
I'm also blind, visually
impaired, so bear with me.
00:34:29.30\00:34:32.13
In 1 John 2:15, it says,
00:34:33.00\00:34:34.87
"Love not the world,
nor anything in the world.
00:34:34.87\00:34:37.94
If anyone loves the world,
00:34:37.94\00:34:39.11
the love of the
Father is not in him."
00:34:39.11\00:34:40.68
Now how do you
balance that with John 3:16,
00:34:40.68\00:34:42.71
"For God so loved the world
00:34:42.71\00:34:44.78
that He gave His
only begotten Son
00:34:44.78\00:34:46.72
that whosoever believeth
in Him should not perish,
00:34:46.72\00:34:48.78
but have everlasting life"?
00:34:48.78\00:34:50.55
And then I have another
verse in question with that.
00:34:50.55\00:34:52.82
- All right, well, as
far as loving not the world,
00:34:52.82\00:34:56.39
and then God says,
"God so loved the world."
00:34:56.39\00:35:00.23
When the Bible tells us,
00:35:00.23\00:35:01.63
you look at the context of
how something is being used.
00:35:01.63\00:35:04.57
When the Bible tells
us to love not the world,
00:35:04.57\00:35:07.20
it's talking about worldliness.
00:35:07.20\00:35:09.17
And then is it James that says,
00:35:09.17\00:35:10.54
"If any man loves the world,
00:35:10.54\00:35:11.84
the love of the
Father is not in him"?
00:35:11.84\00:35:14.24
God wants us to love lost
people that are in the world,
00:35:14.24\00:35:17.68
and God so loved the
lost people in the world.
00:35:17.68\00:35:20.68
Jesus came to seek
and to save the lost.
00:35:20.68\00:35:23.12
It's not talking
about the sin in the world
00:35:23.12\00:35:25.22
because that world is gonna
pass away and the lust thereof.
00:35:25.22\00:35:28.32
So he's defining what about
the world is gonna pass away.
00:35:28.32\00:35:31.33
The sin and the lusts of
the world will pass away,
00:35:31.33\00:35:33.70
but he that does the will
of God will abide forever.
00:35:33.70\00:35:36.03
Again, that's John
chapter, 1 John 2:15-17.
00:35:36.03\00:35:40.64
- And the famous
verse, John 3:16,
00:35:40.64\00:35:42.74
"For God so I love the world",
00:35:42.74\00:35:44.51
it's talking about
the people in the world.
00:35:44.51\00:35:45.87
It's not talking about- - Yeah.
00:35:45.87\00:35:47.31
- The rocks, He loves
people, He came to save people.
00:35:47.31\00:35:49.88
- Yeah. - And we ought to have
00:35:49.88\00:35:51.05
that same love for people.
00:35:51.05\00:35:52.21
- Yeah. - But
there's a difference
00:35:52.21\00:35:53.42
between loving people
00:35:53.42\00:35:54.58
and loving the evil
things in the world.
00:35:54.58\00:35:55.82
- The
worldliness. - That's right.
00:35:55.82\00:35:57.52
- Which is different,
yeah. - There is a difference.
00:35:57.52\00:35:59.12
- So you had another
second part of the question-
00:35:59.12\00:36:02.56
- Yeah. - Gill?
00:36:02.56\00:36:04.19
- Yeah, Matthew
5:44 kind of maybe
00:36:04.19\00:36:07.30
answers your
question a little bit.
00:36:07.30\00:36:08.63
It says, "But I tell
you, love your enemies
00:36:08.63\00:36:10.30
and pray for those
that persecute you,
00:36:10.30\00:36:11.83
that you may be sons
of your Father in heaven."
00:36:11.83\00:36:13.57
But then in James 4, it says,
00:36:13.57\00:36:15.00
"Friendship with the
world is enmity towards God."
00:36:15.00\00:36:18.07
- Yeah.
00:36:18.87\00:36:19.77
Well, yeah, you caught it.
00:36:19.77\00:36:20.91
So we kind of
touched on that verse.
00:36:20.91\00:36:22.94
The Lord wants
us to love everybody
00:36:24.01\00:36:26.41
for the purpose of saving them.
00:36:26.41\00:36:27.72
It doesn't mean we love evil,
00:36:27.72\00:36:29.15
and we certainly
don't endorse bad behavior,
00:36:29.15\00:36:32.75
but yeah, matter of
fact, one place God said to...
00:36:32.75\00:36:36.46
Was it King Jehoshaphat?
00:36:36.46\00:36:38.23
"Why will you be friends of
those who are enemies of me?"
00:36:38.23\00:36:40.93
(laughs) He was making the
league and supporting Ahab.
00:36:40.93\00:36:43.73
So we're not to
love worldliness,
00:36:43.73\00:36:45.87
but yeah, Jesus
died for all sinners.
00:36:45.87\00:36:48.50
- We've got Barrington
listening from New York.
00:36:48.50\00:36:50.37
Barrington,
welcome to the program.
00:36:50.37\00:36:52.37
- [Barrington]
Good evening, Pastors.
00:36:53.24\00:36:54.98
- Evening.
00:36:54.98\00:36:56.18
- [Barrington]
My question is this,
00:36:56.18\00:36:59.31
there's baptismal
formula in Matthew 28.
00:37:01.45\00:37:04.39
- Yes. - Why the disciples
00:37:05.22\00:37:06.49
didn't follow
that baptismal formula
00:37:06.49\00:37:09.89
when they were baptizing
in Acts, the book of Acts?
00:37:09.89\00:37:13.56
- Yeah, well, you're correct
00:37:13.56\00:37:14.83
that there's no record
of the disciple saying,
00:37:14.83\00:37:18.00
we baptize you in
the name of the Father,
00:37:18.00\00:37:20.14
Son and Holy Spirit.
00:37:20.14\00:37:21.60
I don't think that we should
assume that they never did.
00:37:21.60\00:37:25.31
So in Acts, I
believe it says three,
00:37:25.31\00:37:28.41
at least three different ways.
00:37:28.41\00:37:29.64
It says baptize in
the name of the Lord,
00:37:29.64\00:37:31.61
baptize in the name of the Lord,
00:37:31.61\00:37:33.31
baptize in the name of Jesus.
00:37:33.31\00:37:36.25
And so the exact wording is
different in almost every case.
00:37:36.25\00:37:40.66
I think two of them
are the same in Acts.
00:37:40.66\00:37:43.16
So I wouldn't get
hung up on the wording.
00:37:43.16\00:37:45.56
When Christ said, "Baptize
in the name of the Father,
00:37:45.56\00:37:47.60
Son and Holy Spirit",
00:37:47.60\00:37:49.23
and then in Peter it says,
00:37:49.23\00:37:51.07
"To be baptized in
the name of the Lord",
00:37:51.07\00:37:53.60
and it says, "Baptize in
the name of Jesus Christ"
00:37:53.60\00:37:57.17
in Acts 2:38.
00:37:57.17\00:38:00.21
So are you thinking that it
must be uttered a certain way
00:38:00.21\00:38:05.01
or you're just wondering
00:38:05.01\00:38:06.21
why there's
different terms that are used?
00:38:06.21\00:38:07.95
- [Barrington] Yeah, because
Jesus says in Matthew 20,
00:38:07.95\00:38:11.19
all authority is given to
Him in heaven and in earth.
00:38:11.19\00:38:15.26
So why not baptize in His name?
00:38:15.26\00:38:18.06
- Well, I think that
the disciples did baptize
00:38:18.06\00:38:21.20
in the name of Jesus.
00:38:21.20\00:38:22.93
Well, in our church we
try and cover all the bases.
00:38:22.93\00:38:25.50
(laughs) We say, "I baptize
in the name of the Father,
00:38:25.50\00:38:28.74
His Son, Jesus
Christ, and the Holy Spirit",
00:38:28.74\00:38:31.51
but yeah.
00:38:31.51\00:38:34.14
- I also think in Acts, there's
a clear distinction be made.
00:38:34.14\00:38:36.51
You're right, we ought to
baptize in the name of the
00:38:36.51\00:38:38.55
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
00:38:38.55\00:38:39.91
And I think that's very
clear in Matthew chapter 28.
00:38:39.91\00:38:42.25
It's not saying that the
disciples never prayed that way
00:38:42.25\00:38:45.39
or baptized, I
should say that way,
00:38:45.39\00:38:46.89
but I think the point that
obviously was in contention
00:38:46.89\00:38:49.99
at the time of the early
Christian Church was Jesus
00:38:49.99\00:38:53.40
and His position
as the Son of God,
00:38:53.40\00:38:56.06
as the Savior of the world.
00:38:56.06\00:38:57.57
Most of the Jews
accepted the fact that God is,
00:38:57.57\00:39:00.80
God the Father is God,
00:39:00.80\00:39:02.57
but it was the Jesus' question
00:39:02.57\00:39:04.37
that raised a lot of dispute.
00:39:04.37\00:39:05.74
So I think we have it
mentioned in Acts 10:48,
00:39:05.74\00:39:09.08
Luke is just
making it very clear
00:39:09.08\00:39:10.61
that these were people being
baptized into Christianity,
00:39:10.61\00:39:13.92
into Christ. - Yeah.
00:39:13.92\00:39:15.42
- And that was the point
that was being emphasized.
00:39:15.42\00:39:16.89
- Yeah, I just
looked it up real quick.
00:39:16.89\00:39:19.39
It says, baptized in Acts 2:38
in the name of Jesus Christ;
00:39:20.59\00:39:24.49
Acts 8:16, baptized
in the name of the Lord;
00:39:24.49\00:39:27.60
Acts 10:48, the
name of the Lord;
00:39:27.60\00:39:29.70
Acts 19:5, the
name of the Lord Jesus.
00:39:29.70\00:39:31.90
So the wording is
a little different,
00:39:31.90\00:39:33.77
but I think that the idea is,
00:39:33.77\00:39:36.27
are you being baptized into
the name of the God of the Bible
00:39:36.27\00:39:41.31
and the Messiah Jesus?
00:39:41.31\00:39:42.68
As Pastor Ross was saying.
00:39:42.68\00:39:43.91
So let me just give
you an analogy real quick.
00:39:43.91\00:39:48.35
That's not something
we should get hung up on
00:39:48.35\00:39:50.29
because baptism is
very much like marriage,
00:39:50.29\00:39:52.42
it's a public covenant
that you're following Jesus.
00:39:52.42\00:39:55.52
And Pastor Ross
and I are pastors,
00:39:55.52\00:39:57.56
we are ordained, we do weddings.
00:39:57.56\00:40:00.10
And when we do a wedding,
00:40:00.10\00:40:01.33
the important thing
of that wedding covenant
00:40:01.33\00:40:03.47
is that the two
individuals getting married know
00:40:03.47\00:40:06.97
who they're
making the covenant to.
00:40:06.97\00:40:08.90
Some weddings I might
say, "Bill, do you take Sally?"
00:40:08.90\00:40:11.71
It's a little informal.
00:40:11.71\00:40:13.44
Other weddings I might say,
00:40:13.44\00:40:14.61
"Do you, William
Randolph Hearst..."
00:40:14.61\00:40:18.15
No, not him, but
anyway. (Jean laughs)
00:40:18.15\00:40:19.58
Now he's gonna marry
Patina James, or whatever,
00:40:19.58\00:40:23.89
just the whole name,
and it's very formal.
00:40:23.89\00:40:26.55
Either way you do that wedding.
00:40:26.55\00:40:28.32
When they say, "I
do", and they're witnesses,
00:40:28.32\00:40:29.99
and they sign that
document, they're married.
00:40:29.99\00:40:32.43
So the wording in the ceremony
00:40:32.43\00:40:35.80
is never emphasized in the Bible
00:40:35.80\00:40:37.90
as that is supposed to
be the important thing.
00:40:37.90\00:40:39.90
They all knew they
were getting baptized
00:40:39.90\00:40:41.50
in the name of Jesus Christ,
00:40:41.50\00:40:44.47
and the Father,
Son and Holy Spirit,
00:40:44.47\00:40:46.04
the God of the Bible.
00:40:46.04\00:40:48.31
- You know we
have a book- - We do.
00:40:48.31\00:40:49.61
- Called, "Baptism:
Is It Really Necessary?"
00:40:49.61\00:40:51.48
- I've actually, pardon me.
00:40:51.48\00:40:52.41
- Oh, we have another.
00:40:52.41\00:40:53.38
- I've got a book called,
00:40:53.38\00:40:54.92
"The Name of the Lord."
- "The Name of the Lord."
00:40:54.92\00:40:56.22
There you go. - "The
Name of the Lord" talks
00:40:56.22\00:40:57.69
about baptism and what
name do we get baptized in.
00:40:57.69\00:40:58.85
- That might
even be a better book.
00:40:58.85\00:41:00.26
I mean, both are available.
00:41:00.26\00:41:01.39
You can ask, "The
Name of the Lord",
00:41:01.39\00:41:03.02
or the book, "Baptism:
Is It Really Necessary?"
00:41:03.02\00:41:05.76
For those who aren't baptized,
00:41:05.76\00:41:07.20
we wanna encourage you to
prayerfully consider this,
00:41:07.20\00:41:09.30
it's an important step.
00:41:09.30\00:41:10.50
And you might wanna
call and ask for that book,
00:41:10.50\00:41:12.73
and then also ask for the book
00:41:12.73\00:41:13.84
that's called,
"The Name of God."
00:41:13.84\00:41:15.14
The number to
call is 800-835-6747.
00:41:15.14\00:41:18.74
And, again, just ask
for those free books.
00:41:18.74\00:41:20.38
If you're
outside of North America,
00:41:20.38\00:41:22.34
you can still
read it by simply going
00:41:22.34\00:41:24.08
to the Amazing Facts
website, just AmazingFacts.org.
00:41:24.08\00:41:28.48
Next caller
that we have is James
00:41:28.48\00:41:29.75
listening from New Orleans.
00:41:29.75\00:41:31.65
James, welcome to the program.
00:41:31.65\00:41:33.36
- Maybe you're
muted, James, you there?
00:41:35.52\00:41:36.89
- Well, good
evening, Pastors. - Evening.
00:41:36.89\00:41:38.79
- [James] I'm
here, can you hear me?
00:41:38.79\00:41:41.73
- You're popping in
and out a little bit.
00:41:41.73\00:41:43.63
So yeah, state your question,
00:41:43.63\00:41:45.33
and we'll do our
best to answer it.
00:41:45.33\00:41:47.07
- [James] Thank you, sir.
00:41:49.70\00:41:51.21
My question is, is
there any opportunity
00:41:51.21\00:41:54.51
to be saved after the rapture?
00:41:54.51\00:41:57.08
- Is there an
opportunity to be saved
00:41:57.08\00:41:58.38
after the rapture? -
(mumbles) opportunity
00:41:58.38\00:41:59.35
to be saved?
00:41:59.35\00:42:00.98
- Okay, we're gonna
bring your volume down,
00:42:00.98\00:42:02.55
your phone, your
cell is having a problem.
00:42:02.55\00:42:05.65
If you look in
2 Peter chapter 3,
00:42:06.79\00:42:09.02
it talks about the
day of the Lord coming
00:42:09.02\00:42:11.76
as a thief in the night,
00:42:11.76\00:42:13.33
in which the heavens
pass away with a great noise,
00:42:13.33\00:42:15.86
and the elements
melt with fervent heat.
00:42:15.86\00:42:18.47
The day of the Lord
is when Jesus comes back.
00:42:18.47\00:42:21.47
You can read in 1
Thessalonians chapter 4,
00:42:21.47\00:42:25.84
"The Lord will descend
from heaven with a shout,
00:42:25.84\00:42:27.91
the voice of the archangel,
00:42:27.91\00:42:29.44
the trump of God, and the dead
in Christ will be caught up."
00:42:29.44\00:42:31.85
That's the
rapture, we get caught up.
00:42:31.85\00:42:33.98
What happens at that time?
00:42:33.98\00:42:36.25
Thessalonian says,
"The wicked are destroyed
00:42:36.25\00:42:37.75
by the
brightness of His coming."
00:42:37.75\00:42:39.59
And so, no, I don't
believe there's any chance,
00:42:39.59\00:42:42.76
once the Lord comes
and people are caught up,
00:42:42.76\00:42:45.06
we're of the opinion that
the tribulation happens before-
00:42:45.06\00:42:48.03
- Mm-hmm. - They're raptured up,
00:42:48.03\00:42:49.56
not after.
00:42:49.56\00:42:51.03
- So you go through
what we call the tribulation,
00:42:51.03\00:42:52.77
and the Bible speaks
about the seven last plagues
00:42:52.77\00:42:54.50
being poured out.
00:42:54.50\00:42:55.94
God's people are
protected during that time,
00:42:55.94\00:42:57.51
just like the children
of Israel were protected
00:42:57.51\00:42:58.97
when the 10
plagues came upon Egypt,
00:42:58.97\00:43:01.21
then they were
delivered after the plagues.
00:43:01.21\00:43:03.11
So God's people are
protected during those
00:43:03.11\00:43:04.85
seven last plagues.
00:43:04.85\00:43:05.98
But then when Jesus comes,
00:43:05.98\00:43:07.98
the righteous are caught up
to meet the Lord in the air,
00:43:07.98\00:43:10.35
the wicked are destroyed at
the brightness of His coming,
00:43:10.35\00:43:12.82
as 2 Thessalonians tells us.
00:43:12.82\00:43:14.56
We also need to remember
that just before Jesus comes,
00:43:14.56\00:43:17.13
there is a
universal death decree,
00:43:17.13\00:43:19.56
according to
Revelation chapter 13
00:43:19.56\00:43:21.36
passed against
God's faithful people.
00:43:21.36\00:43:24.50
So Jesus comes to the
deliverance of His people
00:43:24.50\00:43:27.64
and the wicked
are then destroyed
00:43:27.64\00:43:29.17
with the
brightness of His coming.
00:43:29.17\00:43:30.47
- Yeah, it's not
just the Jews as some of-
00:43:30.47\00:43:31.84
- That's right. -
My friends believe.
00:43:31.84\00:43:33.64
- Yes. - It's talking
00:43:33.64\00:43:35.28
about any believers.
00:43:35.28\00:43:36.75
- Pastor Doug, I
think this is important,
00:43:36.75\00:43:38.28
this is an important Bible
truth for people to understand.
00:43:38.28\00:43:40.18
I've actually heard
people talking about this,
00:43:40.18\00:43:42.58
and he wasn't a
believer but she was.
00:43:42.58\00:43:45.15
And his argument was,
00:43:45.15\00:43:46.35
well, I'll wait until
suddenly she disappears,
00:43:46.35\00:43:48.99
and then I'll know
that what she says is real,
00:43:48.99\00:43:51.13
and I'll get my act together
and I'll seek after God.
00:43:51.13\00:43:53.40
- Right, repent
during the seven years.
00:43:53.40\00:43:54.83
- Well, it's gonna
be too late, right?
00:43:54.83\00:43:56.23
- Yeah. (laughs) - I
mean when Jesus comes,
00:43:56.23\00:43:57.50
there's no second chance.
00:43:57.50\00:43:58.50
So it's a good
point to bring up, James,
00:43:58.50\00:44:00.07
something that I
think we need to study out.
00:44:00.07\00:44:02.34
We do have a book on the topic,
00:44:02.34\00:44:04.71
it's called
"Anything But Secret."
00:44:04.71\00:44:06.37
It's talking about the
second coming of Christ,
00:44:06.37\00:44:08.34
and we'll be happy to send
it to anyone who calls and asks.
00:44:08.34\00:44:11.11
The number
again is 800-835-6747,
00:44:11.11\00:44:14.98
and you can ask for the book,
00:44:14.98\00:44:16.05
it's called
"Anything But Secret."
00:44:16.05\00:44:17.95
And, of course, you can
read it outside of North America
00:44:17.95\00:44:20.39
just by simply
going to the website.
00:44:20.39\00:44:22.39
Of course, if
you're in North America,
00:44:22.39\00:44:23.76
you can read it
too at the website.
00:44:23.76\00:44:25.66
We've got Derek
listening in Minnesota.
00:44:25.66\00:44:27.86
Derek, welcome to the program.
00:44:27.86\00:44:29.70
- [Derek] Oh, hi,
thanks for taking my call.
00:44:29.70\00:44:31.63
I had a question,
and it's sort of like,
00:44:31.63\00:44:33.37
you know how the
first angel message
00:44:33.37\00:44:35.44
mirrors the Sabbath commandment?
00:44:35.44\00:44:38.14
I noticed in Genesis in
the New King James version,
00:44:38.14\00:44:40.78
Genesis 6 or 3:16,
00:44:40.78\00:44:43.31
and then in Genesis 4:7.
00:44:43.31\00:44:45.48
Like the 3:16, it
talks about like Eve
00:44:45.48\00:44:48.55
and the desire
will be for the husband
00:44:48.55\00:44:50.35
and he'll rule over you.
00:44:50.35\00:44:51.92
And then when you go to
Genesis 4:7, it says like,
00:44:51.92\00:44:54.62
sin lies on the door,
and it'll be your desire,
00:44:54.62\00:44:58.33
and then it'll rule over
it, or something like that.
00:44:58.33\00:45:00.83
It's weird how it's like
the language is kind of mirrored
00:45:00.83\00:45:03.53
in both of those verses,
00:45:03.53\00:45:04.73
and I didn't understand it.
00:45:04.73\00:45:06.84
Is there some
like symbolism there?
00:45:06.84\00:45:08.84
- That's a good point.
00:45:10.37\00:45:11.67
Of course, one is a statement
00:45:11.67\00:45:14.81
where God is talking
about the consequences of sin
00:45:14.81\00:45:19.55
in Genesis chapter 3.
00:45:19.55\00:45:21.42
With Cain, He's saying
00:45:21.42\00:45:23.08
that sin wants to
have the mastery of you,
00:45:23.08\00:45:25.89
but you should rule
over, you should subdue it,
00:45:25.89\00:45:27.79
don't resist it.
00:45:27.79\00:45:29.56
And he would not
resist his pride,
00:45:29.56\00:45:31.66
in that sin he
ultimately killed his brother.
00:45:31.66\00:45:34.23
But is there a
connection between those two?
00:45:34.23\00:45:37.80
I can't spot one right now.
00:45:37.80\00:45:39.37
Sure, I mean, the verse is,
the wording's similar, but...
00:45:39.37\00:45:41.34
- The wording is
similar, but I think
00:45:41.34\00:45:42.67
that probably the
idea in my understanding is
00:45:42.67\00:45:45.17
when it says,
sin lies at the door,
00:45:45.17\00:45:47.24
and it's desire is for
you, but you shall rule over it,
00:45:47.24\00:45:49.78
it's kind of
referencing that carnal nature,
00:45:49.78\00:45:51.85
that sinful nature
that we've inherited-
00:45:51.85\00:45:54.92
- [Doug] Sin shall not
have dominion over you.
00:45:54.92\00:45:56.48
- Yeah, we've
inherited from Adam and Eve,
00:45:56.48\00:45:59.79
and our parents
all the way down,
00:45:59.79\00:46:01.52
but the Bible tells
us that by God's grace
00:46:01.52\00:46:04.03
we are to rule over it.
00:46:04.03\00:46:05.13
In other words,
it's not to rule us.
00:46:05.13\00:46:06.49
- [Doug] Right.
- So it's not a sin
00:46:06.49\00:46:07.66
to be tempted,
but by God's grace
00:46:07.66\00:46:09.93
we are to
resist that temptation,
00:46:09.93\00:46:11.47
we have to rule
over that temptation.
00:46:11.47\00:46:13.30
- [Doug] Mm-hmm.
00:46:13.30\00:46:14.47
- And that's what
we find in this verse.
00:46:14.47\00:46:16.30
- Yeah.
00:46:16.30\00:46:17.14
Well, thank you, Derek.
00:46:17.14\00:46:18.27
We've got a lot
of calls lined up,
00:46:18.27\00:46:19.51
we're gonna try
and get a few more in.
00:46:19.51\00:46:20.48
- We've got Sherman.
00:46:20.48\00:46:21.88
Oh, Sherwin, I should
say, listening from Canada.
00:46:21.88\00:46:23.41
Sherwin, welcome to the program.
00:46:23.41\00:46:25.18
- [Sherwin] Hi, good evening,
Pastor Ross and Pastor Doug.
00:46:26.38\00:46:28.68
- Evening.
00:46:28.68\00:46:29.72
- [Sherwin] Hi,
my question is about
00:46:30.62\00:46:32.42
the justification
and sanctification.
00:46:34.19\00:46:36.89
So I've always
believed that justification
00:46:36.89\00:46:39.33
and sanctification is
sort of a linear process,
00:46:39.33\00:46:42.23
but now I'm
thinking, so every time I sin,
00:46:42.23\00:46:45.10
really I get justified
if I ask for forgiveness,
00:46:45.10\00:46:48.54
and then so on and so forth.
00:46:48.54\00:46:51.04
So it's looking
like it's more recursive
00:46:51.04\00:46:55.08
or it's in a cycle
rather than it's linear,
00:46:55.08\00:46:59.28
and then eventually
glorification comes.
00:46:59.28\00:47:01.78
So my confusion is,
00:47:01.78\00:47:03.75
is the justification
and sanctification process,
00:47:03.75\00:47:06.86
is it linear or
more of a recursive?
00:47:06.86\00:47:10.69
- All right, I think I
understand what you're saying.
00:47:10.69\00:47:13.50
Let me give you
another way to look at it.
00:47:13.50\00:47:15.70
When Jesus died, he
provided justification
00:47:15.70\00:47:18.93
for all that believe,
00:47:18.93\00:47:20.10
and I'm looking at
three verses in Romans
00:47:20.10\00:47:21.77
that talk about
that: Romans 4:25,
00:47:21.77\00:47:24.27
Romans 5:16, Romans 5:18
00:47:24.27\00:47:27.71
talks about resulting
in justification of life.
00:47:27.71\00:47:30.31
Think of justification as that
through the blood of Christ,
00:47:30.31\00:47:33.98
He filled an ocean
that will wash away sin.
00:47:33.98\00:47:37.92
He does that once,
00:47:38.69\00:47:40.99
we may need to jump in
that ocean several times,
00:47:40.99\00:47:44.33
and have that
justification renewed,
00:47:44.33\00:47:47.23
but He was justified once in,
00:47:47.23\00:47:49.13
and in another He provided
this justification for those
00:47:49.13\00:47:52.93
who will take
advantage of His offer
00:47:52.93\00:47:56.17
when He died on the
cross, and He died for the sins
00:47:57.31\00:47:59.31
and He poured His blood out,
00:47:59.31\00:48:00.81
and it was adequate for
the whole world at that point.
00:48:00.81\00:48:03.85
But you and I often have
to renew our justifications
00:48:03.85\00:48:07.45
where Paul said, "I die daily."
00:48:07.45\00:48:08.62
Dying daily is not
just sanctification,
00:48:08.62\00:48:11.19
dying daily is asking for, I
wanna be resurrected new life,
00:48:11.19\00:48:14.92
and have a
refreshed justification.
00:48:14.92\00:48:18.49
- [Jean] We have a book
that you wrote, Pastor Doug,
00:48:18.49\00:48:20.00
it's called "Assurance:
Justification Made Simple",
00:48:20.00\00:48:22.66
and deals with
this very subject.
00:48:22.66\00:48:23.80
- [Doug] That's right.
00:48:23.80\00:48:25.13
- [Jean] And I think
anyone would be encouraged
00:48:25.13\00:48:26.43
by reading this.
00:48:26.43\00:48:27.57
The number to
call is 800-835-6747.
00:48:27.57\00:48:30.94
And again, you can ask for
the book written by Pastor Doug,
00:48:30.94\00:48:32.77
it's called "Assurance:
Justification Made Simple."
00:48:32.77\00:48:35.71
- [Doug] And, Sherwin, in
Canada can read that online.
00:48:35.71\00:48:37.35
- That's right. (Doug mumbles)
00:48:37.35\00:48:38.31
And we can send it to Canada.
00:48:38.31\00:48:39.41
Anyone in North
America. - That's right.
00:48:39.41\00:48:40.42
- So yep, you can read online,
00:48:40.42\00:48:41.78
or if you're in North
America we can send it to you.
00:48:41.78\00:48:44.62
We've got David
listening in Hawaii.
00:48:44.62\00:48:46.45
David, welcome to the program.
00:48:46.45\00:48:48.12
- [David] Hey,
Pastor, thanks for having me.
00:48:49.39\00:48:51.09
- [Doug] Yeah,
00:48:51.09\00:48:52.49
- [David] My question is
in regards to the 2,300 days
00:48:52.49\00:48:55.50
in Daniel chapter 8.
00:48:55.50\00:48:56.93
Specifically how does it
tie to the Day of Atonement:
00:48:58.03\00:49:00.97
The context in Daniel chapter 8
00:49:00.97\00:49:03.17
is that the
sanctuary is being cleansed
00:49:03.17\00:49:04.84
because the little
horn has desecrated,
00:49:04.84\00:49:07.41
but the context of
the Day of Atonement
00:49:07.41\00:49:10.21
is that it is being cleansed
00:49:10.21\00:49:11.38
because of the
sins of the repentant.
00:49:11.38\00:49:13.38
Also the word "cleanse"
is not the same Hebrew word
00:49:13.38\00:49:17.02
in Daniel 8:14
00:49:17.02\00:49:18.79
as it is when it's referring
to the Day of Atonement.
00:49:18.79\00:49:21.96
And lastly, why is the
day/year principal applied
00:49:21.96\00:49:25.36
when it says
evenings and mornings,
00:49:25.36\00:49:27.03
and we don't apply
that to other prophecies
00:49:27.03\00:49:29.63
like Jesus' prophecy about
being buried three evenings
00:49:29.63\00:49:32.90
and mornings for in
the creation account.
00:49:32.90\00:49:35.50
- Okay, you got
several questions there.
00:49:35.50\00:49:37.54
Hopefully we'll try
and cover some of that.
00:49:37.54\00:49:39.84
Can I start with
your last one though?
00:49:39.84\00:49:42.08
The last one
you're talking about,
00:49:42.08\00:49:43.31
why do we apply
the day for the year?
00:49:43.31\00:49:45.71
Either way you do it.
00:49:46.68\00:49:48.22
If in Daniel chapter 8,
00:49:48.22\00:49:49.95
it's talking about the ultimate
cleansing of God's people,
00:49:49.95\00:49:52.92
which occurred on
the Day of Atonement.
00:49:52.92\00:49:55.59
The Day of Atonement
happened once a year,
00:49:55.59\00:49:58.33
so if you say that this is
2,300 years or days rather,
00:49:58.33\00:50:03.30
and you apply the day
for the year principal,
00:50:03.30\00:50:05.80
well, then it's 2,300 years.
00:50:05.80\00:50:08.27
If you say, well, it's
2,300 days of atonement,
00:50:08.27\00:50:12.14
and the Day of
Atonement comes once a year,
00:50:12.14\00:50:14.14
it's still 2,300 years
00:50:14.14\00:50:16.04
because you're talking
2,300 days of atonement
00:50:16.04\00:50:18.35
that come once a year.
00:50:18.35\00:50:19.61
So I think it's
real easy to support
00:50:19.61\00:50:21.55
that this is speaking of a year.
00:50:21.55\00:50:24.02
The other thing is, Jesus, He
did used the day and the year.
00:50:24.02\00:50:27.22
Christ after John
the Baptist was arrested,
00:50:27.22\00:50:30.76
Jesus told His friends,
00:50:30.76\00:50:32.03
I think this is Luke chapter...
00:50:32.03\00:50:34.30
Let me see, there's a
Luke chapter 13, I forget.
00:50:34.30\00:50:37.53
He said, if you type in
the word "fox" you'll find it.
00:50:37.53\00:50:40.37
Jesus said, "Go tell
that fox that I teach
00:50:40.37\00:50:42.77
and do cures and cast out
devils today, and tomorrow,
00:50:42.77\00:50:47.28
and the third day
I'll be perfected."
00:50:47.28\00:50:50.01
- That's Luke
13:32. - Thank you.
00:50:50.01\00:50:52.38
Yeah, so it wasn't,
Jesus did not teach three more,
00:50:52.38\00:50:55.48
this is six
months into His ministry,
00:50:55.48\00:50:56.95
He did not
teach three more days,
00:50:56.95\00:50:58.59
He taught three more years,
but He was making a prophecy.
00:50:58.59\00:51:01.92
So the only way Daniel 8 works
00:51:01.92\00:51:03.93
is if you do apply
the day for the year,
00:51:03.93\00:51:06.43
and the context of it is
00:51:06.43\00:51:07.93
the ultimate
cleansing of God's people.
00:51:07.93\00:51:10.00
- And, of course, we only apply
the day for a year principal
00:51:10.00\00:51:12.57
when we're talking
about Bible prophecy,
00:51:12.57\00:51:14.10
and clearly Daniel
is a prophetic book,
00:51:14.10\00:51:16.20
there's a lot of
imagery that's used.
00:51:16.20\00:51:18.21
You wouldn't apply this prophecy
00:51:18.21\00:51:19.44
talking about the
six days of creation
00:51:19.44\00:51:21.31
because that just
wouldn't make sense.
00:51:21.31\00:51:23.48
(Doug mumbles) So
instead of talking
00:51:23.48\00:51:24.65
about six days,
try and make it 6,000.
00:51:24.65\00:51:27.98
It doesn't work
because, for example,
00:51:27.98\00:51:29.42
you have vegetation
created before you have the sun.
00:51:29.42\00:51:32.59
So, I mean,
that's clearly six days,
00:51:32.59\00:51:34.26
and, of course, then
the seventh day God rested,
00:51:34.26\00:51:37.06
and He blessed,
and He set it apart.
00:51:37.06\00:51:38.96
- Can I make a suggestion?
00:51:38.96\00:51:40.43
I wanna try and
get one more call,
00:51:40.43\00:51:41.36
Pastor Ross. - Yeah.
00:51:41.36\00:51:42.93
- David, we have a magazine
that we just came out with,
00:51:42.93\00:51:45.27
that's called "Divine Design"
00:51:45.27\00:51:47.14
and it goes into Daniel
chapter 8 in great detail.
00:51:47.14\00:51:50.77
You've asked
some great questions,
00:51:50.77\00:51:52.17
we need 25 minutes to
answer your questions,
00:51:52.17\00:51:54.48
or more than that.
00:51:54.48\00:51:55.61
So please look at the magazine,
00:51:55.61\00:51:57.45
and I think it covers
all of your questions,
00:51:57.45\00:52:00.15
and that will let us
take one more caller.
00:52:00.15\00:52:02.22
- Okay, absolutely.
00:52:02.22\00:52:03.72
Let's see, we've got Jaylin
listening in Atlanta, Georgia.
00:52:03.72\00:52:07.02
Jaylin, welcome to the program.
00:52:07.02\00:52:08.76
- [Jaylin] Hey, how
are you guys doing today?
00:52:09.69\00:52:11.69
- Good, thank you for calling.
00:52:11.69\00:52:12.96
And your question
tonight? - Yes, sir.
00:52:12.96\00:52:15.13
Yes, sir, I'm
gonna make it quick.
00:52:15.13\00:52:17.20
So it's on tithe.
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Can you hear me well? - We can.
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- [Jaylin] All
right, beautiful, beautiful.
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So I've been doing a...
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I actually saw a
video about tithe,
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and I heard you
speaking, Pastor Doug, about it.
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So I just did some
research just on it
00:52:32.15\00:52:36.02
because there's a
lot of controversy on it.
00:52:36.02\00:52:37.95
And when I did my
research, however,
00:52:37.95\00:52:40.26
I pinpoint tithe, it
just mean produce grain.
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Let me see,
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livestock, oil, wine.
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And the only time I see tithe
mentioned with money, however,
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is when I see it
says in Deuteronomy.
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It says, if the
journey be too long,
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you should sell your
tithe coming from agriculture
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that they have
produced. - Right?
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- And you can use the money
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and go to where the
Lord, that God put in.
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You can buy wine, strong drink,
00:53:08.48\00:53:10.59
but that's a
whole another subject,
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but any who, you can...
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That's the only connection
I see with tithes with money,
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and it was for the
Levites, they were priests
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and they worked in the
temple. - All right, so
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I wanna wrap it
up and then they...
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Maybe we're gonna run
out of time, so I've got to-
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- Oh, yes, sir. - Let me-
00:53:24.40\00:53:25.90
- [Jaylin] Oh, I'm sorry.
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I was gonna say...
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Yes sir, my question was,
how does pastors receive tithes
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if they were for the Levites,
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and pastors don't come from
the tribe of Levite and whatnot?
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And it was never money.
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- Let me answer
that as quickly as I can.
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You are right, it was
an agricultural society,
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many of the people
the way they would pay
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tithe on their increase,
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and there's a lot
of verses on that.
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You can read, Malachiases bring
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all the tithe
into my storehouse,
00:53:52.26\00:53:54.46
they'd bring their
grain and so forth.
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Clearly by the time of
Christ, they were giving money.
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You've got the widow
that gave her two mites
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when she came to the
temple, and the priests would,
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they'd cast their
gold into the temple.
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The Levites said
that you could pay money,
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they had temple shekel,
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and even
Deuteronomy talks about that
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that people would pay.
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The main idea was
to support the priests,
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so that they could
continue to minister
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to the people through the year.
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And so they
were to bring tithes,
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whether it was the grain or
the sheep or the agriculture,
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or you could
trade that in for money.
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The thing was, they were to
be supported of the increase.
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We've got a lesson on
that called, "In God We Trust."
00:54:31.57\00:54:34.77
We'll send you a free copy.
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- [Jean] And the number to
call for that is 800-835-6747.
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Again, you can ask
for the study guide,
00:54:39.87\00:54:41.44
it's called, "In God We Trust."
00:54:41.44\00:54:43.18
It's a pretty exhaustive
study on the subject of tithing,
00:54:43.18\00:54:46.45
and what is the
responsibility for a Christian.
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So call and we'll be
happy to send that to you.
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- Amen.
00:54:50.69\00:54:52.15
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It seems like we
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Here we go, Pastor Doug,
first question for tonight.
00:55:51.18\00:55:53.28
Are aliens real?
00:55:53.28\00:55:54.98
- Well, angels could be
accused of being aliens.
00:55:56.08\00:55:58.99
And so, does God
have life on other planet?
00:55:58.99\00:56:01.32
I believe yes.
00:56:01.32\00:56:03.06
Do angels visit our world?
00:56:03.06\00:56:04.59
Yes.
00:56:04.59\00:56:05.56
And we know they're good angels,
00:56:05.56\00:56:06.83
evil angels have
been cast down to earth,
00:56:06.83\00:56:08.56
according to Revelation 12.
00:56:08.56\00:56:10.13
I don't think
UFOs and ET are coming,
00:56:10.13\00:56:12.97
but I need to let
our studio know...
00:56:12.97\00:56:14.54
Oh, he is doing okay.
00:56:14.54\00:56:15.90
I wanted to see how much
time I've left on the clock.
00:56:15.90\00:56:17.14
(laughs) But no,
the people that says,
00:56:17.14\00:56:20.11
I had a UFO, or I
was captured by aliens,
00:56:20.11\00:56:22.24
and they did experiments on me,
00:56:22.24\00:56:23.35
I'm very dubious
that that happened.
00:56:23.35\00:56:25.08
- Mm-hmm.
00:56:25.08\00:56:26.18
Okay, next
question that we have,
00:56:26.18\00:56:27.52
we're gonna try and
get to many as we can.
00:56:27.52\00:56:28.95
Do I have to go to
church to be saved?
00:56:28.95\00:56:31.92
- Well, I think
there'll be people in heaven
00:56:32.82\00:56:34.69
that didn't go to church
00:56:34.69\00:56:35.82
because the thief on the cross
00:56:35.82\00:56:37.66
was saved in the
final hours of his life.
00:56:37.66\00:56:40.36
There are people
who maybe are sick,
00:56:40.36\00:56:41.73
and they can't
physically go to church,
00:56:41.73\00:56:43.23
or they're so far removed
from a church they can't attend,
00:56:43.23\00:56:46.13
and that will not be an
obstacle to their salvation.
00:56:46.13\00:56:49.14
But if a person loves the Lord,
00:56:49.14\00:56:51.27
and if Jesus said
that church is His body,
00:56:51.27\00:56:53.17
and we learn to love the
Lord by loving each other,
00:56:53.17\00:56:56.54
and if the church is the medium
00:56:56.54\00:56:58.18
through which God communicates
the gospel with the world,
00:56:58.18\00:57:01.08
why would not a
Christian want to go to church?
00:57:01.08\00:57:04.19
And so I'd wonder about,
00:57:04.19\00:57:05.95
if a person is committed
to following the Bible.
00:57:05.95\00:57:08.26
He said in...
00:57:08.26\00:57:09.82
Especially after
Covid, everyone's wondering,
00:57:09.82\00:57:11.86
do I have to go to
church to be saved?
00:57:11.86\00:57:13.56
Friends, we need to start
getting back into the habit,
00:57:13.56\00:57:16.73
as you know,
your local laws allow.
00:57:16.73\00:57:19.73
Do not forsake the assembling
of ourselves together.
00:57:19.73\00:57:22.80
And the Sabbath was
called a holy convocation,
00:57:22.80\00:57:25.57
there's something that happens.
00:57:25.57\00:57:26.91
Jesus said, when you
come together in My name.
00:57:26.91\00:57:29.11
We need to come together
in the name of the Lord.
00:57:29.11\00:57:31.51
- And we can even
sense it in our congregation,
00:57:31.51\00:57:33.98
in our experience, Pastor Doug,
00:57:33.98\00:57:35.32
when folks have been
separated from each other
00:57:35.32\00:57:36.85
for an extended length of time.
00:57:36.85\00:57:38.55
Even though they
might be watching online,
00:57:38.55\00:57:41.39
you begin to, I
don't wanna say grow cold,
00:57:41.39\00:57:43.69
but your spiritual
fervency can begin to diminish
00:57:43.69\00:57:48.30
if you're not inspired by others
who believe the same thing,
00:57:48.30\00:57:51.20
who wanna worship God,
where you sing together,
00:57:51.20\00:57:53.34
where you pray together.
00:57:53.34\00:57:54.77
It's needful for a Christian,
we can't live by ourself.
00:57:54.77\00:57:57.21
- Yeah, I think it's real
important to come together.
00:57:57.21\00:57:59.44
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