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00:00:51.38\00:00:53.78 Authorities in Sri Lanka say 00:00:55.02\00:00:56.52 the world's largest star sapphire cluster 00:00:56.52\00:00:59.39 has been found in a backyard by accident. 00:00:59.39\00:01:02.79 A gem trader said the stone was found by workman 00:01:02.79\00:01:05.63 digging a well behind his home 00:01:05.63\00:01:07.40 in the gem-rich Ratnapura area. 00:01:07.40\00:01:10.33 The cluster weighs around 1,124 pounds 00:01:10.33\00:01:14.77 or 2.5 million carats, 00:01:14.77\00:01:17.54 and has been named the Serendipity Sapphire. 00:01:17.54\00:01:20.71 Experts say the stone, which is pale blue in color, 00:01:20.71\00:01:23.65 has an estimated value of up to 100 million 00:01:23.65\00:01:27.22 in the international market. 00:01:27.22\00:01:29.15 Mr. Gamage, the owner of the stone, said, 00:01:29.15\00:01:31.52 "The person who was digging the well 00:01:31.52\00:01:33.02 "alerted us about some rare stones. 00:01:33.02\00:01:35.56 "Later we stumbled upon this huge specimen." 00:01:35.56\00:01:38.66 He didn't wanna give us his full name or location 00:01:38.66\00:01:40.83 for obvious security reasons. 00:01:40.83\00:01:43.30 Along with diamonds, rubies and emeralds, 00:01:43.30\00:01:45.30 sapphires are considered among the most valuable gems. 00:01:45.30\00:01:48.80 The huge stone is believed to be 00:01:48.80\00:01:50.74 the largest sapphire cluster in the world. 00:01:50.74\00:01:53.91 You know, Pastor Ross, 00:01:53.91\00:01:55.48 sapphires are mentioned more than any other precious gem 00:01:55.48\00:01:58.08 in the Bible. 00:01:58.08\00:01:59.51 - Yes, Pastor Doug, it's amazing when you think about it. 00:01:59.51\00:02:00.88 I mean, you've got the Bible speaking of sapphires 00:02:00.88\00:02:03.55 in the second book of the Bible, Exodus, 00:02:03.55\00:02:06.22 and then you find the last book of the Bible, 00:02:06.22\00:02:08.56 the Book of Revelation, again mentions sapphire. 00:02:08.56\00:02:11.59 And I understand that they're 00:02:11.59\00:02:12.96 one of four of the most precious stones on Earth, 00:02:12.96\00:02:16.56 but also four precious stones spoken of in the Bible. 00:02:16.56\00:02:19.23 - That's right, yeah. 00:02:19.23\00:02:20.27 And it's mentioned several times, Ezekiel. 00:02:20.27\00:02:23.37 In fact, well, let's give folks a few samples. 00:02:23.37\00:02:25.87 It's a Bible answer program, let's use some Bible here. 00:02:25.87\00:02:28.58 Exodus 24:10. 00:02:28.58\00:02:30.71 It says: 00:02:30.71\00:02:32.05 When this is not long after the 10 Commandments 00:02:32.05\00:02:33.85 were given and the people drew near the Mountain of God 00:02:33.85\00:02:36.42 and they saw the God of Israel 00:02:36.42\00:02:38.79 and there was under His feet, as it were, 00:02:38.79\00:02:40.86 a paved work of sapphire stone, 00:02:40.86\00:02:43.89 and it was like the very heavens in its clarity. 00:02:43.89\00:02:46.73 You know what it's like? 00:02:46.73\00:02:48.30 Sapphire's a blue sparkling, kind of a heavenly color. 00:02:48.30\00:02:51.63 And on the High Priest, he used to wear an ephod. 00:02:51.63\00:02:55.90 And on the ephod or the breast plate, 00:02:55.90\00:02:58.14 there were 12 stones and every stone was different, 00:02:58.14\00:03:00.58 and one of those stones is a sapphire. 00:03:00.58\00:03:03.71 Which is interesting because the Bible also tells us that 00:03:03.71\00:03:07.38 Satan, before he was Satan he was Lucifer, 00:03:07.38\00:03:09.98 one of God's great angels, 00:03:09.98\00:03:11.55 and it tells us that he had many of the same stones 00:03:11.55\00:03:14.52 as the High Priest, 00:03:14.52\00:03:15.92 these beautiful gems that he wore, sapphire is mentioned. 00:03:15.92\00:03:19.83 But then when you get to Revelation 00:03:19.83\00:03:22.10 and it talks about 00:03:22.10\00:03:23.23 the foundation stones of the new Jerusalem, 00:03:23.23\00:03:25.53 says there are 12 foundations 00:03:25.53\00:03:27.34 and each foundation is a precious stone. 00:03:27.34\00:03:30.51 And of course among them is a sapphire stone. 00:03:30.51\00:03:34.58 And some people think, "Well, how can that be real? 00:03:34.58\00:03:36.95 "Gates of pearl, 00:03:36.95\00:03:38.41 "12 glorious gem foundation stones." 00:03:38.41\00:03:43.49 It is real. It's very real. 00:03:44.29\00:03:45.95 And God has prepared a city. 00:03:45.95\00:03:48.52 Those things don't wear away. 00:03:48.52\00:03:49.72 The pyramids are still here today 00:03:49.72\00:03:51.79 'cause they're made of mineral. 00:03:51.79\00:03:53.19 God is gonna make the new Jerusalem out of minerals 00:03:53.19\00:03:55.56 that will last forever. 00:03:55.56\00:03:57.40 And if anyone's wondering about that place called Heaven, 00:03:57.40\00:04:01.40 we've got a book that I think will encourage you. 00:04:01.40\00:04:03.51 It's got a lot of scripture in it. 00:04:03.51\00:04:05.04 Tell you not only that Heaven is real, 00:04:05.04\00:04:06.64 but how you can be there. 00:04:06.64\00:04:08.38 - We have a book, it's called, "Heaven: Is It For Real?" 00:04:08.38\00:04:10.95 And this is a free offer. 00:04:10.95\00:04:12.31 We'll be happy to send this to anyone who calls and asks. 00:04:12.31\00:04:15.25 The number call is 800-835-6747 00:04:15.25\00:04:19.69 and you can just simply ask for the book. 00:04:19.69\00:04:21.36 It's called, "Heaven: Is It For Real?" 00:04:21.36\00:04:23.46 We'll be happy to send that to anyone here in North America. 00:04:23.46\00:04:26.33 If you're outside of North America, 00:04:26.33\00:04:27.66 folks can just go to the Amazing Facts website 00:04:27.66\00:04:30.07 and you'll be able to read the book there online. 00:04:30.07\00:04:31.93 "Heaven: Is It For Real?" 00:04:31.93\00:04:33.70 You know, Pastor Doug, sometimes people, 00:04:33.70\00:04:35.50 they read the Bible's description of Heaven 00:04:35.50\00:04:37.47 and then they try and calculate what Heaven would be like 00:04:37.47\00:04:41.91 based on human terms or worldly terms, 00:04:41.91\00:04:45.25 and it just seems so spectacular it's beyond belief. 00:04:45.25\00:04:49.28 But what we need to recognize is that 00:04:49.28\00:04:51.25 what the Bible tells us that we can't even begin to imagine 00:04:51.25\00:04:54.66 the things that God has prepared for those that love Him. 00:04:54.66\00:04:56.93 - Absolutely. 00:04:56.93\00:04:58.26 - All right, well before we get to the program this evening, 00:04:58.26\00:05:00.06 as we always do, we like to start with prayer. 00:05:00.06\00:05:01.83 - [Doug] Yes. 00:05:01.83\00:05:02.90 - So let's do that. 00:05:02.90\00:05:04.23 Dear Father, we thank You once again for this opportunity 00:05:04.23\00:05:05.63 to open up Your Word, the Bible, and study together. 00:05:05.63\00:05:08.37 And Father, we ask Your blessing upon this program. 00:05:08.37\00:05:11.04 Be with the people who are listening wherever they are, 00:05:11.04\00:05:13.07 across this country 00:05:13.07\00:05:14.11 and even in other places around the world. 00:05:14.11\00:05:16.28 Father, we know the greatest 00:05:16.28\00:05:17.61 and most important thing for us to do 00:05:17.61\00:05:19.28 is to come to a saving knowledge of You through Your Word. 00:05:19.28\00:05:22.58 So bless our time today. 00:05:22.58\00:05:24.39 For we ask this in Jesus' name, amen. 00:05:24.39\00:05:27.02 - Amen. 00:05:27.02\00:05:28.36 - Well, Pastor Doug, we do have phone lines that are open 00:05:28.36\00:05:30.93 and if you have a Bible related question, 00:05:30.93\00:05:32.63 the number to call is 800-463-7297. 00:05:32.63\00:05:36.36 If you don't get in right away, 00:05:36.36\00:05:37.93 just stay on hold and one of our call screeners 00:05:37.93\00:05:40.47 will be happy to take your call. 00:05:40.47\00:05:42.77 We have our first caller for this evening. 00:05:42.77\00:05:44.64 We have Somme who's listening from Massachusetts. 00:05:44.64\00:05:48.14 Somme, welcome to the program. 00:05:48.14\00:05:50.15 - [Somme] Hi, thank you for taking my call. 00:05:50.15\00:05:52.85 I have a question about the four angels 00:05:54.08\00:05:56.58 that surround the throne of God. 00:05:56.58\00:05:58.22 - [Doug] Mm-hmm. 00:05:58.22\00:05:59.32 - [Somme] And first of all, I wondered if they, 00:05:59.32\00:06:03.73 if Lucifer used to be one of them. 00:06:03.73\00:06:05.93 And secondly, why do they cry out, "Holy, holy, holy?" 00:06:05.93\00:06:09.56 I know that it appeared in Isaiah 6 and also Revelation 4. 00:06:09.56\00:06:13.94 - [Doug] Right. 00:06:14.90\00:06:15.97 - [Somme] I just wanna know your thoughts 00:06:15.97\00:06:16.64 about these two things. 00:06:16.64\00:06:18.31 - Okay. You're right. 00:06:18.31\00:06:19.67 There's only two places in the Bible where it says, 00:06:19.67\00:06:21.61 "Holy, holy, holy," three times, 00:06:21.61\00:06:23.55 and you've mentioned there Isaiah 6 and in Revelation 4. 00:06:23.55\00:06:27.62 There's a little difference in the vision. 00:06:27.62\00:06:29.42 In Isaiah 6 it says there's two Seraphim by the throne. 00:06:29.42\00:06:33.46 That sounds more in keeping with the two Cherubim 00:06:33.46\00:06:35.96 by the throne or the mercy seat in the Ark of the Covenant 00:06:35.96\00:06:40.16 and in the Jewish temple. 00:06:40.16\00:06:41.90 But when we get to Revelation, 00:06:41.90\00:06:43.20 it talks about the four creatures around God's throne. 00:06:43.20\00:06:46.00 I think there's more symbolism being used there. 00:06:46.00\00:06:49.10 You ask now, "Was Lucifer one of them?" 00:06:49.10\00:06:51.04 I think Lucifer was 00:06:51.04\00:06:52.37 one of the two covering Cherubs by the throne of God 00:06:52.37\00:06:56.31 because it says, now is it Isaiah or Ezekiel, 00:06:56.31\00:06:58.38 it says, "Thou art the anointed Cherub that covereth." 00:06:58.38\00:07:01.88 And either Isaiah 14 or Ezekiel 28 says that. 00:07:01.88\00:07:06.65 And there's two big passages on Lucifer 00:07:06.65\00:07:09.42 in those sections of the Bible. 00:07:09.42\00:07:11.59 But in regard to your other question, 00:07:11.59\00:07:14.60 "What's the meaning of the four 00:07:15.93\00:07:17.33 "and why does it say, 'Holy, holy, holy?'" 00:07:17.33\00:07:19.40 Well some have said that in Hebrew, 00:07:19.40\00:07:22.14 when you wanna say something's great, you repeat it. 00:07:22.14\00:07:24.97 If you say someone's handsome, you say, 00:07:24.97\00:07:26.61 "He is handsome, handsome." 00:07:26.61\00:07:28.94 If you really, really, really wanted to emphasize something, 00:07:28.94\00:07:31.65 you'd never go beyond three. 00:07:31.65\00:07:32.88 You'd say, "They're handsome, handsome, handsome. 00:07:32.88\00:07:35.18 "Strong, strong, strong." 00:07:35.18\00:07:37.12 When it says that, "God is holy, holy, holy," 00:07:37.12\00:07:40.32 that means He is perfectly, 00:07:40.32\00:07:42.56 the perfect definition of holiness in Hebrew. 00:07:42.56\00:07:45.56 They would emphasize things by repeating it. 00:07:45.56\00:07:48.13 That's why Jesus sometimes said, 00:07:48.13\00:07:49.90 "Verily, verily, I say to you." 00:07:49.90\00:07:51.97 He said, "You better pay attention. Sit up. 00:07:51.97\00:07:54.04 "This is gonna be very important." 00:07:54.04\00:07:56.00 That passage? 00:07:56.00\00:07:57.37 - Yes, I was actually gonna mention before we get to that, 00:07:57.37\00:07:59.07 we have a whole study guide, Pastor Doug, 00:07:59.07\00:08:00.54 talking about the Devil. 00:08:00.54\00:08:01.71 - Yeah. 00:08:01.71\00:08:02.84 - It's called, "Did God Create a Devil?" 00:08:02.84\00:08:03.88 And it deals with those passages in Isaiah 00:08:03.88\00:08:06.75 that describes Lucifer before the fall 00:08:06.75\00:08:09.78 and there it refers to him as a covering Cherub. 00:08:09.78\00:08:12.45 And there's a lot of other bible verses that you can find. 00:08:12.45\00:08:14.99 So if you'd like to receive that study guide, 00:08:14.99\00:08:17.36 the number to call is 800-835-6747, 00:08:17.36\00:08:20.90 and just ask for the Amazing Fact study guide. 00:08:20.90\00:08:23.00 It's called, "Did God Create a Devil?" 00:08:23.00\00:08:24.93 It's got all the Bible verses there. 00:08:24.93\00:08:26.57 And then one additional thought, Pastor Doug, 00:08:26.57\00:08:28.37 about the four living creatures. 00:08:28.37\00:08:29.57 It's interesting when you look at 00:08:29.57\00:08:30.37 the description in Revelation 4, 00:08:30.37\00:08:32.57 it says that they had six wings 00:08:32.57\00:08:34.81 and their constant cries, "Holy, holy, holy." 00:08:34.81\00:08:37.41 The first is a face like unto a lion, 00:08:37.41\00:08:39.65 the second like unto a calf, 00:08:39.65\00:08:40.98 the third like to a man, 00:08:40.98\00:08:42.25 the fourth like unto a flying eagle. 00:08:42.25\00:08:44.32 And when you look at the description that we find, 00:08:44.32\00:08:46.29 it kinda helps direct us 00:08:46.29\00:08:48.62 or help us understand the ministry of Christ. 00:08:48.62\00:08:50.96 He's the lion, He's the King, 00:08:50.96\00:08:52.46 He's the one who came to bear our sins, 00:08:52.46\00:08:54.10 He's our High Priest in Heaven, 00:08:54.10\00:08:55.70 He's coming as an eagle, as King of kings and Lord of lords. 00:08:55.70\00:08:58.33 So some interesting parallels that we see there 00:08:58.33\00:09:00.54 in Revelation 4. 00:09:00.54\00:09:02.24 Thank you for your call. 00:09:03.30\00:09:04.37 Our next caller that we have is Jeff 00:09:04.37\00:09:05.17 and he is listening in Montana. 00:09:05.17\00:09:06.98 Jeff, welcome to the program. 00:09:06.98\00:09:08.58 - [Jeff] Good evening. 00:09:08.58\00:09:09.61 - Evening. 00:09:09.61\00:09:10.98 - [Jeff] I wanted to know is there any connection 00:09:10.98\00:09:13.48 or significance between the annual tribute 00:09:13.48\00:09:16.42 that Solomon received in 1 Kings 10:14 00:09:16.42\00:09:19.52 of 666 talents of gold 00:09:19.52\00:09:22.96 and the number of the beast in Revelation? 00:09:22.96\00:09:24.96 - You know, that's a great question. 00:09:24.96\00:09:26.76 I've wondered that before. 00:09:26.76\00:09:28.76 I think there's two places in the Bible 00:09:28.76\00:09:31.10 you find that number. 00:09:31.10\00:09:32.80 One of them is that it tells us in 1 Kings 00:09:32.80\00:09:35.84 that there came to Solomon in one year, 666 talents of gold. 00:09:35.84\00:09:40.44 The thing that strikes me about the mention of that number 00:09:41.74\00:09:44.58 is with the reign of David, 00:09:44.58\00:09:47.42 the kingdom was just doing great. 00:09:47.42\00:09:50.09 Israel had conquered all of their enemies, 00:09:50.09\00:09:52.12 David subdued all the surrounding nations, 00:09:52.12\00:09:54.36 and you could go through and name every one of them. 00:09:54.36\00:09:55.89 He subdued them, they were paying tribute. 00:09:55.89\00:09:58.79 Then Solomon becomes King 00:09:58.79\00:10:00.16 and everything goes from good to better. 00:10:00.16\00:10:02.03 He's a godly King. He loves the Lord. 00:10:02.03\00:10:04.93 All nations are coming to Israel, like the Queen of Sheba, 00:10:04.93\00:10:07.44 to find out about God. 00:10:07.44\00:10:09.14 They build the temple of the Lord. 00:10:09.14\00:10:10.81 Solomon builds this incredible palace. 00:10:10.81\00:10:12.71 His reputation for wisdom is going around the world. 00:10:12.71\00:10:17.01 And then it says in one year, 00:10:17.01\00:10:18.15 666 talents came to Israel. 00:10:18.15\00:10:21.22 And the next chapter says: 00:10:21.22\00:10:23.18 But Solomon loved many women. 00:10:23.18\00:10:26.15 And from there the kingdom goes down. 00:10:26.15\00:10:28.52 So it's like the mention of this number happens 00:10:28.52\00:10:31.73 and it shifts from God to man, 00:10:31.73\00:10:34.20 just like man was made on the sixth day. 00:10:34.20\00:10:36.83 And so 666 is like the number four. 00:10:36.83\00:10:39.77 It's the number of a man 00:10:39.77\00:10:41.50 and it's talking about manmade worship. 00:10:41.50\00:10:44.17 From that point on, the kingdom just goes downhill. 00:10:44.17\00:10:46.17 So I thought that's an interesting, 00:10:46.17\00:10:47.41 it's like they turned around a pole 00:10:47.41\00:10:49.91 and ran the other direction when they got to 666. 00:10:49.91\00:10:52.81 So that's all that I've come up with on that. 00:10:52.81\00:10:55.68 Jeff, does that make any sense? 00:10:55.68\00:10:58.05 - [Jeff] Yes, it does. 00:10:58.05\00:10:59.59 Yeah. Especially when you talk about the very next chapter. 00:10:59.59\00:11:01.56 - Yeah. 00:11:01.56\00:11:02.89 Everything turned south right after the mention of 666. 00:11:02.89\00:11:05.16 It's amazing. 00:11:05.16\00:11:06.59 So hey, thank you so much. 00:11:06.59\00:11:07.86 That's a good point. 00:11:07.86\00:11:09.70 - Okay, our next caller that we have is Kathleen 00:11:09.70\00:11:11.83 listening from Arizona. 00:11:11.83\00:11:14.07 Kathleen, welcome to the program. 00:11:14.07\00:11:16.37 - [Kathleen] Hi. Thank you. 00:11:16.37\00:11:17.81 Hi Pastor Doug and Pastor Ross. 00:11:17.81\00:11:19.97 My question is regarding Galatians 6. 00:11:19.97\00:11:23.21 In verse two it says: 00:11:24.28\00:11:25.45 Bear you one another's burdens 00:11:25.45\00:11:27.25 and so fulfill the law of Christ. 00:11:27.25\00:11:30.35 But then you go down to verse five and it says: 00:11:30.35\00:11:33.42 For every man shall bear his own burden. 00:11:33.42\00:11:36.62 So it seems to me like it's a contradiction. 00:11:36.62\00:11:39.73 - Yeah, well, I think what Paul is saying is that 00:11:41.13\00:11:43.10 when we love our brother, it's like Jesus says it 00:11:43.10\00:11:46.33 and Paul says it in another place, 00:11:46.33\00:11:48.77 that all of commandment is summed up in this: 00:11:48.77\00:11:51.57 To love your neighbor as yourself. 00:11:51.57\00:11:53.48 Paul is simply saying that 00:11:53.48\00:11:54.94 when you really love your neighbor, 00:11:54.94\00:11:56.41 you're fulfilling the 10 Commandments, 00:11:56.41\00:11:59.38 at least the commandments that deal with 00:11:59.38\00:12:00.88 your love for your fellow man. 00:12:00.88\00:12:02.58 But when he says, "Every man will bear his burden," 00:12:03.95\00:12:05.55 it means that we will all answer to God for our life. 00:12:05.55\00:12:09.92 And everyone does have a cross to bear. 00:12:11.43\00:12:13.66 So he's really using the term I think 00:12:13.66\00:12:15.33 in two different ways there. 00:12:15.33\00:12:17.17 - [Kathleen] Okay. 00:12:18.13\00:12:19.50 - You know Jesus said, "Come after me. Take up your cross." 00:12:19.50\00:12:20.87 We bear the cross after Christ. 00:12:20.87\00:12:22.57 - And I think you'd also add to that a little bit. 00:12:22.57\00:12:24.54 Everybody has a burden to bear 00:12:24.54\00:12:26.24 and that's the point that Paul is emphasizing. 00:12:26.24\00:12:28.54 We all have burdens to bear, 00:12:28.54\00:12:30.25 therefore, let's help one another. 00:12:30.25\00:12:32.78 We can bear one another's burden 00:12:32.78\00:12:34.62 because everyone has their own burden 00:12:34.62\00:12:36.35 that they have to bear. 00:12:36.35\00:12:37.59 - [Kathleen] True, True. 00:12:38.45\00:12:39.69 Okay, thank you very much. 00:12:39.69\00:12:41.56 - All right, thanks so much. 00:12:41.56\00:12:43.29 - Okay, next caller that we have is Damon 00:12:43.29\00:12:45.26 listening from Oklahoma City. 00:12:45.26\00:12:47.30 Damon, welcome to the program. 00:12:47.30\00:12:48.73 - [Damon] Thank you. How you guys doing? 00:12:50.00\00:12:51.53 - We're doing a lot better than we deserve. 00:12:51.53\00:12:53.17 How are you doing? 00:12:53.17\00:12:54.04 - [Damon] I'm doing pretty good. 00:12:55.07\00:12:56.87 - And your question tonight? 00:12:56.87\00:12:59.21 - [Damon] Yeah, my question was over Isaiah 45:7. 00:12:59.21\00:13:04.18 I've seen some atheists try to use this. 00:13:05.18\00:13:06.92 In some bibles it says God created light and darkness 00:13:06.92\00:13:10.49 and it says in some Bibles it says God 00:13:10.49\00:13:12.39 created good and evil. 00:13:12.39\00:13:14.29 And I've seen some atheists try to use that and say, 00:13:14.29\00:13:16.19 "See there, God created evil." 00:13:16.19\00:13:17.79 So I was just wanting to know 00:13:17.79\00:13:19.26 how do you guys actually break down that verse? 00:13:19.26\00:13:21.56 Or does it supposed to say evil there or not? 00:13:21.56\00:13:24.23 - Yeah, the word when he says this in 00:13:24.23\00:13:27.14 that passage there in Isaiah. 00:13:29.20\00:13:30.97 - Isaiah 45:7 is the verse. 00:13:30.97\00:13:32.67 - Yeah. He's not saying that God creates evil. 00:13:32.67\00:13:35.21 The word there is really that He sends judgment. 00:13:35.21\00:13:38.85 And it is true that God will send judgment. 00:13:38.85\00:13:41.48 So it's talking about when he says, "Evil," 00:13:41.48\00:13:44.25 you read there the context Isaiah's talking about 00:13:44.25\00:13:47.32 disasters that were gonna come upon God's people 00:13:47.32\00:13:49.72 'cause they turned away from God. 00:13:49.72\00:13:51.16 And He was gonna allow that. 00:13:51.16\00:13:53.13 And so in that sense you might say, 00:13:53.13\00:13:54.83 "Well, people would think a disaster is evil." 00:13:54.83\00:13:57.33 But when people turn away from the Lord, they reject God, 00:13:57.33\00:14:01.34 they reject His protection from the Devil, 00:14:01.34\00:14:03.91 and so in that sense He's like, 00:14:03.91\00:14:05.71 "You're saying you chase me away 00:14:05.71\00:14:06.74 "and I'm your hedge of protection. 00:14:06.74\00:14:08.74 "A Devil's gonna get to you." 00:14:08.74\00:14:10.85 And even in the story of Job, the Devil said, 00:14:10.85\00:14:13.52 "You've put a hedge of angels about him. 00:14:13.52\00:14:15.12 "But if you move your hedge and I get to touch him, 00:14:15.12\00:14:18.59 "he'll curse you." 00:14:18.59\00:14:19.85 And God says, "All right, I'm gonna back off 00:14:19.85\00:14:21.36 "to show you that you're wrong." 00:14:21.36\00:14:22.92 So that's the big question is, 00:14:22.92\00:14:25.86 is God guilty of sending evil 00:14:25.86\00:14:29.16 when He withdraws His protection? 00:14:29.16\00:14:30.87 And the Lord, He did send a flood on Noah. 00:14:31.97\00:14:34.90 So people would say, "Well, is that evil?" 00:14:34.90\00:14:36.47 God didn't make evil but He does judge wickedness. 00:14:36.47\00:14:39.74 - [Damon] Mm. 00:14:41.18\00:14:42.08 - Does that help, Damon? 00:14:43.14\00:14:45.61 - [Damon] Yeah, that does help a lot. 00:14:45.61\00:14:46.72 - I've heard people use the verse that way 00:14:46.72\00:14:48.82 and they wanna make it sound like, "See, God made evil." 00:14:48.82\00:14:50.99 But you could also, if they believe the Bible, 00:14:50.99\00:14:53.29 I mean they're reading the Bible 00:14:53.29\00:14:54.09 to try and prove God made evil. 00:14:54.09\00:14:55.86 Read the part of the Bible where it says: 00:14:55.86\00:14:57.43 Every good and perfect gift comes from God. 00:14:57.43\00:15:00.40 And you can read in Genesis where God makes the world, 00:15:00.40\00:15:02.66 says, "Everything was good, good, very good." 00:15:02.66\00:15:05.47 And you get to chapter three 00:15:05.47\00:15:06.57 and men decided not to believe the Word of God 00:15:06.57\00:15:08.84 and that's when evil came in. 00:15:08.84\00:15:10.14 - Mm-hmm. 00:15:10.14\00:15:11.24 You know we do have that study guide, 00:15:11.24\00:15:11.91 we mentioned it earlier, 00:15:11.91\00:15:13.01 it's called, "Did God Create a Devil?" 00:15:13.01\00:15:14.88 And it deals with this question of, 00:15:14.88\00:15:17.15 if God is good, why does He allow bad things to happen? 00:15:17.15\00:15:20.38 And we'll be happy to send this to anyone who calls 00:15:20.38\00:15:22.58 and asks. 00:15:22.58\00:15:23.72 The number to call for that is 800-835-6747. 00:15:23.72\00:15:27.19 And you can ask for the Amazing Fact study guide. 00:15:27.19\00:15:29.16 It's called, "Did God Create a Devil?" 00:15:29.16\00:15:31.96 Next caller that we have is Alex. 00:15:31.96\00:15:33.29 And Alex is listening from Tennessee. 00:15:33.29\00:15:34.96 Alex, welcome to the program. 00:15:34.96\00:15:36.46 - [Alex] Hey! Hello Pastor Doug. Hello Pastor Jean. 00:15:37.83\00:15:40.07 - Hi. 00:15:40.07\00:15:40.97 - [Alex] So I had a question 00:15:43.10\00:15:44.24 and I just found the verse to back it up 00:15:44.24\00:15:46.17 where in Hebrews 9:22 where it says: 00:15:46.17\00:15:49.08 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood 00:15:49.08\00:15:51.51 and without shedding of blood there's no remission, 00:15:51.51\00:15:54.08 which is usually referring to sin. 00:15:54.08\00:15:56.22 So I was wondering why do you need to use, 00:15:56.22\00:16:00.32 why did God require blood for the sacrifices? 00:16:00.32\00:16:03.22 I mean, for remission of sins? 00:16:03.22\00:16:04.96 Could there have been some alternative or something? 00:16:04.96\00:16:07.73 - Yeah, well blood is the epitome of an example of life. 00:16:07.73\00:16:12.23 And it says in the Bible, and it's in Genesis, Pastor Ross, 00:16:12.23\00:16:15.07 it's in a couple places, I think. 00:16:15.07\00:16:16.84 It may be in Leviticus too. 00:16:16.84\00:16:18.17 The life is in the blood. 00:16:18.17\00:16:19.67 The life is in the blood. 00:16:19.67\00:16:21.04 And so when the penalty for sin is death 00:16:21.04\00:16:24.28 and when Jesus poured out His blood, 00:16:24.28\00:16:27.48 it's like He gave His life. 00:16:27.48\00:16:29.62 Every single cell in your body is fed and cleansed by blood 00:16:29.62\00:16:34.69 and when a person loses their blood, they die. 00:16:35.79\00:16:38.59 And so it's always become sort of a symbol 00:16:38.59\00:16:40.96 that blood was an atonement 'cause it represented a life. 00:16:40.96\00:16:44.30 Now the Jews did not believe in 00:16:44.30\00:16:47.44 where people would prick their finger 00:16:47.44\00:16:50.01 and you'd use a little bit of blood 00:16:50.01\00:16:51.47 to become blood brothers. 00:16:51.47\00:16:53.04 I remember when I was a kid we did that. 00:16:53.04\00:16:55.11 I don't know where we got that. 00:16:55.11\00:16:56.71 We heard that's how you become Indian blood brothers. 00:16:56.71\00:16:58.71 We need to prick our fingers 00:16:58.71\00:16:59.51 and we touch the blood together. 00:16:59.51\00:17:01.65 And the Jews didn't have a ceremony 00:17:01.65\00:17:04.55 where you used a little bit of your blood. 00:17:04.55\00:17:06.59 When you gave your blood it was because you died. 00:17:06.59\00:17:09.29 They would cut the throat of the lamb. 00:17:09.29\00:17:11.16 It required a death 00:17:11.16\00:17:13.56 and so the blood became a symbol of that. 00:17:13.56\00:17:16.36 - And of course it ties into the cost of redemption 00:17:16.36\00:17:19.13 was the blood of Christ, meaning the death of Christ, 00:17:19.13\00:17:21.34 His substitutionary death. 00:17:21.34\00:17:22.44 And so through the sacrificial system, 00:17:22.44\00:17:24.31 sacrificing the lambs, 00:17:24.31\00:17:25.77 it was all pointing forward to Jesus 00:17:25.77\00:17:27.91 and His sacrifice that was to come. 00:17:27.91\00:17:30.21 Does that help, Alex? 00:17:31.41\00:17:32.61 - [Alex] Yeah. 00:17:34.02\00:17:34.82 But speaking about Jesus dying, 00:17:34.82\00:17:37.42 I've heard some people think that it's a moral injustice 00:17:37.42\00:17:40.19 for Jesus to die on the cross instead of us. 00:17:40.19\00:17:42.46 What do you think about that? 00:17:43.83\00:17:45.23 - Yeah, I think that it's a sign of the love of God 00:17:45.23\00:17:47.86 that He would substitute Himself. 00:17:47.86\00:17:49.53 Whenever somebody loves somebody and they say, 00:17:49.53\00:17:51.63 "Look, I don't want them to suffer. 00:17:51.63\00:17:53.57 "I will take their suffering for them." 00:17:53.57\00:17:55.84 The Bible says: 00:17:55.84\00:17:56.64 No greater love has anyone 00:17:56.64\00:17:58.61 that than he would lay down his life for a friend. 00:17:58.61\00:18:01.54 By the way, that verse is Leviticus 17:11. 00:18:01.54\00:18:04.21 For the life of the flesh is in the blood. 00:18:04.21\00:18:07.15 And it says: 00:18:07.15\00:18:09.82 To make atonement for your souls, 00:18:09.82\00:18:12.52 it is in the blood that makes atonement for the soul. 00:18:12.52\00:18:15.36 That's probably the best definition there. 00:18:15.36\00:18:17.29 Leviticus 17:11. 00:18:17.29\00:18:19.23 But yeah, it's the justice of God. 00:18:19.23\00:18:22.70 A death was required. 00:18:22.70\00:18:24.10 He said, "I will die in your place." 00:18:24.10\00:18:26.00 - You know, we have a book called, 00:18:26.00\00:18:26.80 "The High Cost of the Cross" 00:18:26.80\00:18:28.30 that talks about the sacrifice of Jesus. 00:18:28.30\00:18:30.47 That's really inspiring and we'd be happy to send this book 00:18:30.47\00:18:33.38 to anyone who calls and asks. 00:18:33.38\00:18:34.84 The number to call is 800-835-6747. 00:18:34.84\00:18:38.25 Again, you can ask for the book. 00:18:38.25\00:18:39.35 It's called, "The High Cost of the Cross." 00:18:39.35\00:18:41.52 We'll send it to anyone here in North America. 00:18:41.52\00:18:43.89 If you're outside of North America, 00:18:43.89\00:18:45.02 you can read it at the Amazing Facts website. 00:18:45.02\00:18:48.19 Thanks for your call, Alex. 00:18:48.19\00:18:49.29 The next caller that we have is Susie. 00:18:49.29\00:18:51.26 And she's listening from Colorado. 00:18:51.26\00:18:52.79 Susie, welcome to the program. 00:18:52.79\00:18:54.36 - [Susie] Hi. 00:18:55.10\00:18:55.93 - Hi. 00:18:55.93\00:18:57.07 - [Susie] Thank you for taking my call. 00:18:57.07\00:18:57.87 I just have one question. 00:18:57.87\00:18:59.17 I wanna know, does our name go in the Book of Life 00:18:59.17\00:19:02.67 when we're conceived 00:19:02.67\00:19:03.81 and then it stays there until we reject Christ? 00:19:03.81\00:19:06.98 - No, your name goes in the Book of Life 00:19:08.11\00:19:09.41 when you accept Christ 00:19:09.41\00:19:10.78 because we're all born in sort of a fallen condition. 00:19:10.78\00:19:14.92 And when we turn to Christ and we accept Christ, 00:19:14.92\00:19:17.59 you're born again. 00:19:17.59\00:19:19.19 Jesus said He's come to give us eternal life. 00:19:19.19\00:19:21.06 You don't really receive eternal life just by being born. 00:19:21.06\00:19:24.03 You receive eternal life 00:19:24.03\00:19:25.39 by accepting the sacrifice of Jesus in your behalf. 00:19:25.39\00:19:28.73 At that point, He enters your name in the Book of Life. 00:19:28.73\00:19:31.57 And now a person sometime in their life, 00:19:32.57\00:19:35.84 they could turn away from the Lord. 00:19:35.84\00:19:37.54 I think Moses talks about, he said, 00:19:37.54\00:19:40.24 "Take my name out of your book which you have written." 00:19:40.24\00:19:43.04 And God says, and this is Exodus 32:33, 00:19:43.04\00:19:45.68 the Lord said to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against me, 00:19:45.68\00:19:48.38 "I will blot him out of my book." 00:19:48.38\00:19:50.59 In other words, among the believers, the children of 00:19:50.59\00:19:53.49 Israel, they accepted the Lord. 00:19:53.49\00:19:54.76 But He says if they turn from Him, 00:19:54.76\00:19:56.32 "I'll take their name out of the book." 00:19:56.32\00:19:57.46 It doesn't mean one sin, it means a life of sin. 00:19:57.46\00:19:59.49 You give up on the Lord. 00:19:59.49\00:20:00.56 - Mm-hmm. And we have a few more verses. 00:20:00.56\00:20:02.30 Kind of interesting. 00:20:02.30\00:20:03.43 Paul refers to this in Philippians 4:3. 00:20:03.43\00:20:06.40 He talks about his fellow workers 00:20:06.40\00:20:07.90 whose names are written in the Book of Life. 00:20:07.90\00:20:09.87 Revelation 3:5 says that those who are faithful, 00:20:09.87\00:20:13.98 He will not blot their names out of the Book of Life. 00:20:13.98\00:20:16.75 Revelation 13:8 says: 00:20:16.75\00:20:18.98 Those whose names have been written in the Book of Life, 00:20:18.98\00:20:21.75 they are the ones that'll worship God. 00:20:21.75\00:20:24.52 So to have your name written in the Book of Life 00:20:24.52\00:20:26.89 is a good thing. 00:20:26.89\00:20:27.72 It means eternal life. 00:20:27.72\00:20:28.56 - Yeah. 00:20:28.56\00:20:30.06 And anyone listening? 00:20:30.06\00:20:32.66 I'm sorry. Say that again please. 00:20:32.66\00:20:35.06 - [Susie] Babies that die before they can accept Christ. 00:20:35.06\00:20:38.07 - Yeah. 00:20:39.07\00:20:40.64 The Bible's pretty clear that the children of believers that 00:20:40.64\00:20:43.87 they die before the age of accountability, 00:20:43.87\00:20:46.21 they're gonna be in the kingdom 00:20:47.24\00:20:48.54 by virtue of their parents' decision. 00:20:48.54\00:20:52.38 There's a great mystery 00:20:52.38\00:20:53.68 and debate in the world among theologians about: 00:20:53.68\00:20:57.02 Is every baby that is born or every baby that's conceived, 00:20:57.02\00:21:01.22 are they all automatically saved? 00:21:01.22\00:21:03.36 They definitely are not going to be punished. 00:21:03.36\00:21:05.76 But whether that means 00:21:05.76\00:21:06.80 they're automatically all resurrected, 00:21:06.80\00:21:08.73 that's a mystery. 00:21:10.03\00:21:11.43 Some believe that yes, 00:21:11.43\00:21:12.73 every baby that is conceived is gonna be in Heaven. 00:21:12.73\00:21:15.60 And then when you do the math though, it seems like, 00:21:15.60\00:21:18.21 heavens, you're gonna be swimming in babies. 00:21:18.21\00:21:20.48 And then there's some who believe that 00:21:21.68\00:21:23.04 they may just go to sleep 00:21:23.04\00:21:24.55 and be as though they had not been. 00:21:24.55\00:21:25.55 You were gonna say? 00:21:25.55\00:21:26.68 - Yeah, I was just gonna add to that. 00:21:26.68\00:21:27.98 You know, we do have a reference in Jeremiah 31:16 00:21:27.98\00:21:30.82 that's actually quoted by Matthew 00:21:30.82\00:21:32.79 and it's referring to the time when 00:21:32.79\00:21:34.42 the Romans destroyed all of the baby boys in Bethlehem. 00:21:34.42\00:21:37.99 And the quote from Jeremiah 31:16. 00:21:37.99\00:21:40.83 Thus saith the Lord, "Refrain your voice from weeping 00:21:40.83\00:21:42.90 "and your eyes from tears 00:21:42.90\00:21:44.43 "for your work shall be rewarded," saith the Lord. 00:21:44.43\00:21:46.77 "And they shall come back from the land of the enemy." 00:21:46.77\00:21:49.44 So the land of the enemy meaning death here. 00:21:49.44\00:21:52.47 So this is a promise to those mothers 00:21:52.47\00:21:54.48 that their children would be resurrected 00:21:54.48\00:21:57.41 in the resurrection at the second coming of Christ. 00:21:57.41\00:21:59.78 So we do have hope, yes. 00:21:59.78\00:22:01.85 Believing parents will get to see their their children 00:22:01.85\00:22:04.42 if they die before the age of accountability. 00:22:04.42\00:22:07.32 - Does that help a little, Susie? 00:22:07.32\00:22:09.19 - [Susie] Yes it does. Thank you so much. 00:22:09.19\00:22:11.23 - All right, thank you. 00:22:11.23\00:22:12.99 - Next caller that we have is Paul listening in Idaho. 00:22:12.99\00:22:15.56 Paul, welcome to the program. 00:22:15.56\00:22:17.10 - [Paul] Good day. 00:22:18.20\00:22:19.37 - Hi. 00:22:19.37\00:22:20.47 - [Paul] Hey, I have a question. 00:22:20.47\00:22:22.70 Now, this three angels' message that comes in Revelation 14. 00:22:22.70\00:22:27.78 - Yes? 00:22:28.81\00:22:29.61 - [Paul] Now why are we so 00:22:29.61\00:22:33.08 fearful of showing that 00:22:34.28\00:22:36.25 and why are people not accepting it? 00:22:36.25\00:22:40.96 - Yeah, that's interesting you had asked that question. 00:22:40.96\00:22:43.06 I was just working on a message today 00:22:43.06\00:22:45.29 about the three angels' message 00:22:45.29\00:22:46.63 I'm gonna be sharing this week 00:22:46.63\00:22:48.26 at a Christian convention in Orlando, 00:22:48.26\00:22:51.13 and that's my subject. 00:22:51.13\00:22:52.67 So you're right, some people are reluctant to share it. 00:22:52.67\00:22:55.70 For those listening, our brother here is talking about 00:22:55.70\00:22:59.67 the three angels' message. 00:22:59.67\00:23:01.04 In Revelation 14, it talks about Jesus coming in the clouds 00:23:01.04\00:23:05.31 and right after Jesus is pictured 00:23:05.31\00:23:08.72 or right before Jesus is pictured coming in the clouds, 00:23:08.72\00:23:11.05 it talks about these three angel messages. 00:23:11.05\00:23:13.96 And Revelation 13 says: 00:23:13.96\00:23:17.06 Every nation, kindred, tongue 00:23:17.06\00:23:18.53 and person is gonna be forced to worship the beast 00:23:18.53\00:23:20.80 or they can't buy or sell and they'll be killed. 00:23:20.80\00:23:23.00 Revelation 14 says the gospel's gonna go to every nation, 00:23:23.00\00:23:25.80 kindred, tongue and people. 00:23:25.80\00:23:27.40 So in the last days, 00:23:27.40\00:23:29.27 these messages of angels flying in Heaven, 00:23:29.27\00:23:31.94 it's a last day emphasis of the gospel 00:23:31.94\00:23:34.44 and the message of judgment and salvation goes to the world 00:23:34.44\00:23:38.45 immediately prior to Christ coming. 00:23:38.45\00:23:40.28 That's why it's a very important present truth. 00:23:40.28\00:23:43.49 - And of course, 00:23:43.49\00:23:44.52 immediately following the proclamation 00:23:44.52\00:23:45.62 of the three angels' message, Pastor Doug, 00:23:45.62\00:23:47.26 you read about the second coming of Christ 00:23:47.26\00:23:48.52 there in Revelation 14. 00:23:48.52\00:23:50.59 - [Doug] Yeah. 00:23:50.59\00:23:51.39 - And of course the angels, 00:23:51.39\00:23:52.49 I'm sure they are real angels or angelic angels 00:23:52.49\00:23:56.33 that assist in the proclamation of the message. 00:23:56.33\00:23:58.43 But in a very real sense 00:23:58.43\00:24:00.24 God's people are represented by those angels 00:24:00.24\00:24:02.47 that are taking that end time message to the world. 00:24:02.47\00:24:05.87 - [Doug] Yeah. 00:24:05.87\00:24:06.98 You know, we do have a study guide 00:24:06.98\00:24:08.01 talking about the three angels' messages. 00:24:08.01\00:24:09.11 It's called, "Angel Messages From Space." 00:24:09.11\00:24:12.08 And a very important subject found there in Revelation 14. 00:24:12.08\00:24:15.12 We'll send that to anyone who calls and ask. 00:24:15.12\00:24:17.45 The number again is 800-835-6747. 00:24:17.45\00:24:21.12 And you can ask for the study guide, 00:24:21.12\00:24:22.46 "Angel Messages From Space." 00:24:22.46\00:24:24.56 It's all about the three angels' messages. 00:24:24.56\00:24:27.50 All right, well thanks for your call. 00:24:27.50\00:24:28.50 We've got Kirk listening in Texas. 00:24:28.50\00:24:30.40 Kirk, welcome to the program. 00:24:30.40\00:24:31.93 - [Kirk] Yes, thank you. 00:24:31.93\00:24:32.93 - Hi. And your question tonight? 00:24:32.93\00:24:35.27 - [Kirk] Yes. Oh, I have a lot of questions, 00:24:35.27\00:24:37.01 but I guess I only have time to ask you one. 00:24:37.01\00:24:40.38 My question is, did Jesus use His divine nature 00:24:44.45\00:24:47.32 to overcome the temptation 00:24:47.32\00:24:49.65 or did He use His human nature to overcome the temptation? 00:24:49.65\00:24:54.72 - Well, Jesus ended up using the same power 00:24:56.56\00:24:59.53 that is available to you and me. 00:24:59.53\00:25:00.96 Every time He was tempted, He responded by saying, 00:25:00.96\00:25:03.63 "It is written. It is written." 00:25:03.63\00:25:06.20 And we can use that. 00:25:06.20\00:25:08.64 Now in the Bible you've got examples of Bible characters 00:25:08.64\00:25:12.27 that were tempted that fell. 00:25:12.27\00:25:14.01 Solomon and David would be examples of that. 00:25:16.28\00:25:18.41 And in the Bible you've got examples of human characters 00:25:18.41\00:25:22.05 that were victorious. 00:25:22.05\00:25:23.95 Joseph was sorely tempted by Potiphar's wife 00:25:23.95\00:25:27.52 and Job went through a series of terrible temptations. 00:25:27.52\00:25:30.46 But it said in all these things he'd sin not 00:25:30.46\00:25:33.23 or did he curse God foolishly or charge God foolishly. 00:25:33.23\00:25:36.77 And so Jesus, He trusted in His Father. 00:25:36.77\00:25:41.84 He's an example for us of how we can overcome 00:25:42.97\00:25:45.24 and how others have overcome. 00:25:45.24\00:25:46.84 Man doesn't live by bread alone but by every Word. 00:25:48.21\00:25:50.48 Of course, that's one of the responses that Jesus gave 00:25:50.48\00:25:52.91 to Lucifer when he was tempted. 00:25:52.91\00:25:55.55 - Mm-hmm. 00:25:55.55\00:25:56.35 And Jesus said in John 5:30, 00:25:56.35\00:25:59.02 He said, "I can of myself do nothing." 00:25:59.02\00:26:01.22 That must have shocked the disciples. 00:26:01.22\00:26:02.99 But when Jesus took upon Himself humanity, 00:26:02.99\00:26:04.99 He laid aside His divinity in one sense 00:26:04.99\00:26:08.13 and He trusted in the strength given to Him by His Father, 00:26:08.13\00:26:12.47 even as His disciples and as believers ought to do. 00:26:12.47\00:26:15.64 - Everything Jesus did, 00:26:15.64\00:26:17.34 He did with the power that is available to you and me. 00:26:17.34\00:26:21.21 Jesus raised the dead. 00:26:21.21\00:26:22.61 But you can see where the apostles raised the dead. 00:26:22.61\00:26:24.68 He healed the sick, the apostles healed the sick. 00:26:24.68\00:26:26.92 Christ said, "These miracles that I've done, 00:26:26.92\00:26:28.48 "greater things than these will you do 00:26:28.48\00:26:30.19 "because I go to the Father." 00:26:30.19\00:26:32.25 So hopefully that answers your question. 00:26:32.25\00:26:34.42 Appreciate that. 00:26:34.42\00:26:35.22 You know we do have a book. 00:26:35.22\00:26:36.36 It's called, "Tips for Resisting Temptation." 00:26:36.36\00:26:39.09 And we'll be happy to send this to anyone who asks. 00:26:39.09\00:26:41.46 Again, the number is 800-835-6747. 00:26:41.46\00:26:45.43 "Tips for Resisting Temptation." 00:26:45.43\00:26:47.34 (relaxing music) 00:26:47.34\00:26:48.70 And friends, you hear the music in the background. 00:26:48.70\00:26:49.77 It's not the end. 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(laughs) 00:30:39.10\00:30:40.97 - [Faday] Okay. 00:30:40.97\00:30:42.20 The birth ministry and the death of Jesus 00:30:42.20\00:30:45.44 proved seven false religion systems were false. 00:30:45.44\00:30:48.48 The seven heads, there's seven mountains, seven continents. 00:30:48.48\00:30:53.38 One says the paganism says God created by men. 00:30:53.38\00:30:57.32 The second atheism says there is no God. 00:30:57.32\00:31:01.49 And the third one is Judaism says 00:31:01.49\00:31:05.46 salvation comes through work. 00:31:05.46\00:31:07.66 And this fourth one is Islam. 00:31:07.66\00:31:11.17 Salvation comes through work. 00:31:11.17\00:31:13.30 And the fifth head is Eastern Mysticism. 00:31:13.30\00:31:16.24 Man can become God. 00:31:19.74\00:31:21.54 And one is Catholic. 00:31:21.54\00:31:23.75 And the other head, number seven, 00:31:23.75\00:31:26.35 is salvation comes through works. 00:31:26.35\00:31:29.32 So all they're mountains or hills, well, 00:31:29.32\00:31:33.09 let's say the Catholic around the world 00:31:33.09\00:31:36.52 look to their mountain, the Vatican. 00:31:36.52\00:31:39.33 And Protestant look to the head of Capitol Hill 00:31:39.33\00:31:44.37 and the other heads look to their God Mountains. 00:31:45.60\00:31:48.14 - Yeah. 00:31:48.14\00:31:49.10 - [Faday] That's what I see. 00:31:49.10\00:31:50.07 And the woman that sits on- 00:31:50.07\00:31:50.77 - Interesting. 00:31:50.77\00:31:52.24 - [Faday] And the woman, that's the woman, that's Jezebel, 00:31:52.24\00:31:54.48 just like Jesus has a bride, the people, 00:31:55.71\00:31:58.51 and Jezebel is the antichrist people. 00:31:58.51\00:32:01.15 - Okay. Now do you have a question? 00:32:01.15\00:32:04.12 - [Faday] That's what I think. That's what I'm saying. 00:32:04.12\00:32:06.25 - Oh right. Well, I've never heard that. 00:32:06.25\00:32:08.06 That's very intriguing. 00:32:08.06\00:32:09.56 I would respectfully disagree, 00:32:09.56\00:32:11.96 but I've honestly never heard that interpretation before 00:32:11.96\00:32:15.00 for the seven mountains that you find in Revelation 17. 00:32:15.00\00:32:17.97 Most people believe it says that 00:32:18.77\00:32:20.84 that woman is a great city 00:32:20.84\00:32:22.14 that reigns over the kings of the Earth. 00:32:22.14\00:32:24.01 When John had his vision, 00:32:24.01\00:32:25.34 that great city was of course the kingdom of Rome 00:32:25.34\00:32:27.54 that had imprisoned him 00:32:27.54\00:32:28.91 and of course was responsible for the execution of Jesus. 00:32:28.91\00:32:32.55 And that those, 00:32:32.55\00:32:33.85 it says five of those seven hills are also seven, 00:32:33.85\00:32:36.89 not only the seven hills of Rome, 00:32:36.89\00:32:38.39 Rome is called The City of Seven Hills, 00:32:38.39\00:32:40.49 and here you've got a woman. 00:32:40.49\00:32:41.72 It's a church situated in Rome 00:32:41.72\00:32:43.86 that doesn't leave any questions I would think. 00:32:43.86\00:32:47.66 But it says that those seven hills are also seven kings. 00:32:47.66\00:32:51.43 Five are fallen, one is, one is yet to come. 00:32:51.43\00:32:54.70 He's also the eighth. I'm paraphrasing. 00:32:54.70\00:32:57.37 And people have believed these are the five empires 00:32:57.37\00:32:59.87 that have occupied and persecuted God's people, 00:32:59.87\00:33:03.08 namely Egypt, Assyria, 00:33:03.08\00:33:06.25 Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece. 00:33:06.25\00:33:08.78 Those are the five that were fallen 00:33:08.78\00:33:10.52 when John had his vision. 00:33:10.52\00:33:11.59 One is Rome was the one that is 00:33:11.59\00:33:14.62 and it says he's also the seventh 00:33:14.62\00:33:17.19 because it was first Pagan Rome is the sixth. 00:33:17.19\00:33:21.06 Papal Rome is the seventh. 00:33:21.06\00:33:22.90 Papal Rome receives a deadly wound but comes back again, 00:33:22.90\00:33:25.47 meaning he's also the eighth. 00:33:25.47\00:33:27.30 Now, that may not be a perfect interpretation 00:33:27.30\00:33:29.64 but it's satisfied me for several years. 00:33:29.64\00:33:31.41 - [Jean] Mm-hmm. 00:33:31.41\00:33:32.47 - And I think most many Protestant Reformers 00:33:32.47\00:33:34.71 believed something like that. 00:33:34.71\00:33:36.24 - Yes, and if you go back into the Old Testament, 00:33:36.24\00:33:37.91 you notice starting as early as the Book of Daniel, 00:33:37.91\00:33:40.15 you find different beasts representing kingdoms 00:33:40.15\00:33:43.35 that have warred against God's people. 00:33:43.35\00:33:45.22 You find that not only in the Old Testament, 00:33:45.22\00:33:47.02 but of course in the New Testament 00:33:47.02\00:33:48.39 there was also persecutions that came upon Christians 00:33:48.39\00:33:50.76 through various political 00:33:50.76\00:33:52.36 and then eventually political religious powers 00:33:52.36\00:33:54.96 as you look in history. 00:33:54.96\00:33:56.26 So that's an interesting study in Revelation 17. 00:33:56.26\00:33:59.03 Thanks for your call. 00:33:59.03\00:34:00.47 Next caller that we have is Steven listening from Canada. 00:34:00.47\00:34:02.04 Steven, welcome to the program. 00:34:02.04\00:34:04.41 - [Steven] Hi Pastor Doug Batchelor and Pastor Jean Ross. 00:34:04.41\00:34:08.24 Nice to be on. 00:34:08.24\00:34:09.28 - Oh, it's good to have you on. 00:34:09.28\00:34:10.98 - [Steven] My question is, 00:34:10.98\00:34:12.25 it says in chapter 12 of Numbers, it says: 00:34:12.25\00:34:16.92 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses 00:34:16.92\00:34:19.89 because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married, 00:34:19.89\00:34:23.02 for he had married an Ethiopian woman. 00:34:23.02\00:34:25.03 So my question is, I'm curious. 00:34:25.03\00:34:26.90 It says she's an Ethiopian woman in chapter 12, 00:34:26.90\00:34:30.00 but why like back in Numbers chapter, 00:34:30.00\00:34:33.57 just before chapter three 00:34:33.57\00:34:34.84 and in the first verse of chapter three, 00:34:34.84\00:34:37.31 it talks, well, obviously because Jethro being the 00:34:37.31\00:34:40.41 Prince of Midia or Jethro's, 00:34:40.41\00:34:43.65 well, he's a Midianite. 00:34:43.65\00:34:45.68 His daughter would, of course, naturally be a Midianite. 00:34:45.68\00:34:48.28 If I'm saying that correctly. 00:34:48.28\00:34:49.62 So I'm just wondering why seeming contradiction 00:34:49.62\00:34:53.29 or just something maybe the way that King James laid it out? 00:34:53.29\00:34:55.79 I don't know. 00:34:55.79\00:34:56.93 I'm wondering what you guys think about that. 00:34:56.93\00:34:58.13 - Yeah, there's a couple of ways 00:34:58.13\00:35:00.86 and no one's absolutely sure. 00:35:00.86\00:35:03.10 But of course Moses first meets Zipporah, a Midianite, 00:35:03.10\00:35:08.17 the daughter of, 00:35:09.20\00:35:10.31 I think she's the oldest of Jethro's daughters. 00:35:10.31\00:35:12.67 And he meets her 40 years earlier. 00:35:12.67\00:35:15.44 He rescues the girls by the well and he has sons with her. 00:35:15.44\00:35:18.48 She's still alive when he goes into Egypt 00:35:18.48\00:35:20.68 because there's a mention of her specifically. 00:35:20.68\00:35:23.22 Later, her father-in-law comes and brings the boys. 00:35:24.59\00:35:27.22 I guess she had gone back during the 10 plagues. 00:35:27.22\00:35:29.39 She had gone back to Midian 00:35:29.39\00:35:30.83 and her father then meets up with the boys 00:35:30.83\00:35:33.19 and with his wife. 00:35:33.19\00:35:34.93 A Midianite, they could easily be called an Ethiopian 00:35:34.93\00:35:38.47 because it was all the same territory. 00:35:38.47\00:35:40.70 So many times in the Bible 00:35:40.70\00:35:42.47 you'll hear a particular group of people 00:35:42.47\00:35:45.34 and there's a couple of different ways they're 00:35:45.34\00:35:48.54 referenced. You know, Aaron, this is an example of Miriam and 00:35:48.54\00:35:53.21 Aaron. They were upset that Moses did not marry a Jewish 00:35:53.21\00:35:57.05 girl, even though Midian is related to Abraham. 00:35:57.05\00:35:59.55 She was not an Israelite. 00:36:00.42\00:36:03.53 And she may have been darker skinned 00:36:03.53\00:36:07.60 and so they're exhibiting some frustration. 00:36:07.60\00:36:12.03 And I think that Miriam was also feeling slighted 00:36:12.03\00:36:15.60 that God is speaking to her younger brother 00:36:15.60\00:36:18.51 and she had been a prophetess and not talking to her. 00:36:18.51\00:36:21.24 And she was wanting some of the leadership. 00:36:21.24\00:36:22.84 She wanted to be promoted. 00:36:22.84\00:36:24.91 So she gets punished through this story you find here 00:36:24.91\00:36:27.82 in Exodus 12. 00:36:27.82\00:36:28.75 But the other theory is that 00:36:29.75\00:36:32.25 after 40 something years of marriage, 00:36:32.25\00:36:34.16 maybe Zipporah had died and Moses had remarried, 00:36:34.16\00:36:38.03 which would not be uncommon 00:36:38.03\00:36:39.33 'cause he still had another 40 years to live. 00:36:39.33\00:36:41.60 So they're not sure. 00:36:41.60\00:36:44.13 There's nothing in the Bible that says explicitly 00:36:44.13\00:36:46.70 one way or the other. 00:36:46.70\00:36:47.67 I'm inclined to think that 00:36:47.67\00:36:49.04 they just had two different ways of referring to Zipporah. 00:36:49.04\00:36:51.57 One is she's a Midianite, 00:36:51.57\00:36:52.71 the other one says she's a Ethiopian. 00:36:52.71\00:36:55.28 Midian was a tribe, Ethiopia was kind of more of a race. 00:36:55.28\00:36:58.31 - Mm-hmm. And an area. 00:36:58.31\00:36:59.45 - Yeah. 00:36:59.45\00:37:00.18 - They came from. 00:37:00.18\00:37:01.32 All right, well thanks for your call Steven. 00:37:01.32\00:37:01.98 We appreciate it. 00:37:01.98\00:37:03.32 We've got Jonathan listening in Nashville, Tennessee. 00:37:03.32\00:37:04.42 Jonathan, welcome to the program. 00:37:04.42\00:37:06.39 - [Jonathan] Hey, good evening. 00:37:07.39\00:37:08.66 - Hi. 00:37:08.66\00:37:09.99 - [Jonathan] Pastor Ross, Pastor Batchelor, how y'all doing? 00:37:09.99\00:37:11.06 - Doing good. Thank you for calling. 00:37:11.06\00:37:13.43 - [Jonathan] All right, good to hear. 00:37:13.43\00:37:14.66 Hey, this question is regarding the Book of Daniel. 00:37:14.66\00:37:17.73 Been looking at some of the prophecies 00:37:18.83\00:37:20.17 on how some of the other Christian faith communities 00:37:20.17\00:37:24.44 look at how the kingdoms are run in sequence. 00:37:24.44\00:37:28.74 What do you think where some of the disagreement 00:37:28.74\00:37:32.61 or where things kinda diverge and how the gap theory 00:37:32.61\00:37:37.05 and some of these seven year tribulations? 00:37:37.05\00:37:39.95 I guess what are the scriptures that we could point to 00:37:41.19\00:37:44.93 to help us look by these kingdoms run in sequence 00:37:44.93\00:37:48.80 versus allowing for any gap? 00:37:48.80\00:37:51.07 - Yeah, great question. 00:37:51.07\00:37:52.37 Now I think Jonathan's referring more specifically 00:37:52.37\00:37:56.20 to Daniel 9 where there's a 490 year prophecy. 00:37:56.20\00:38:00.31 And you know all the kingdoms, namely Babylon, 00:38:00.31\00:38:03.08 Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome, you got Pagan Rome, Papal Rome, 00:38:03.08\00:38:07.72 and then the divisions of the Roman Empire, 00:38:07.72\00:38:09.65 they all kind of run in sequence. 00:38:09.65\00:38:11.75 When you get to Daniel 9, 00:38:11.75\00:38:12.85 it talks about this 490 year prophecy 00:38:12.85\00:38:15.36 and then it tells us that after 483 years, 00:38:15.36\00:38:20.00 Messiah is cut off. 00:38:20.00\00:38:22.60 Of course, in that last seven years, 00:38:22.60\00:38:25.40 it says in the midst of the week 00:38:25.40\00:38:26.77 he causes the sacrifice to cease. 00:38:26.77\00:38:29.17 That's talking about from the time of Jesus' baptism, 00:38:29.17\00:38:32.24 He ministers 3 1/2 years, He dies on the cross, 00:38:32.24\00:38:35.71 the veil in the temple is ripped, 00:38:35.71\00:38:37.01 He causes the sacrifice to cease. 00:38:37.01\00:38:39.58 He rises from the dead 00:38:39.58\00:38:40.98 and for 3 1/2 years, He tells the disciples, 00:38:40.98\00:38:43.22 "Do not go in the way of the Gentiles. 00:38:43.22\00:38:45.29 "Continue to preach to the lost house of Israel." 00:38:45.29\00:38:47.99 The time for the Jewish nation had not been cut off yet 00:38:47.99\00:38:51.03 until the Supreme Court of the nation stoned Stephen, 00:38:51.03\00:38:55.00 the Sanhedrin. 00:38:55.00\00:38:55.90 But there was a, 00:38:57.20\00:38:59.50 I think this came in with Darbyism, 00:38:59.50\00:39:01.97 they came in with a futuristic interpretation that 00:39:01.97\00:39:05.11 that seven weeks was not contiguous 00:39:05.11\00:39:07.91 with the 483 years of Daniel 9. 00:39:07.91\00:39:10.71 That you could take that seven weeks 00:39:10.71\00:39:12.11 and you could float it around in the end of time somewhere, 00:39:12.11\00:39:14.05 and it was the seven years of tribulation. 00:39:14.05\00:39:16.12 You don't find the phrase, "Seven years of tribulation" 00:39:16.12\00:39:18.25 anywhere in the Bible. 00:39:18.25\00:39:19.72 This is a very, in my opinion, 00:39:19.72\00:39:21.59 it is a very free-spirited interpretation 00:39:21.59\00:39:25.66 as someone just kind of made this up 00:39:25.66\00:39:28.10 and they thought it sounded good. 00:39:28.10\00:39:29.23 And 00:39:29.23\00:39:30.13 I've heard people say, 00:39:32.07\00:39:33.47 "Well, because Noah had to wait in the ark seven days 00:39:33.47\00:39:36.87 "before the flood, 00:39:36.87\00:39:38.01 "that's representing the seven last place 00:39:38.01\00:39:41.01 "and seven years of the time of trouble." 00:39:41.01\00:39:43.61 Now, I think that this is all 00:39:43.61\00:39:45.05 one continuous prophecy of 490 years. 00:39:45.05\00:39:47.78 We have a study guide on that. 00:39:47.78\00:39:49.02 - We do. I'm actually looking. 00:39:49.02\00:39:50.15 It's called, "Right on Time." 00:39:50.15\00:39:51.55 And it deals with this 490 year time period 00:39:51.55\00:39:54.02 that you find in the Book of Daniel. 00:39:54.02\00:39:55.86 And we'll be happy to send this to anyone who calls 00:39:55.86\00:39:58.23 and asks. 00:39:58.23\00:39:59.33 The number to call is 800-835-6747. 00:39:59.33\00:40:02.66 And you can ask for the study guide. 00:40:02.66\00:40:03.87 It's called, "Right on Time." 00:40:03.87\00:40:05.43 And we'll get it to you in the mail. 00:40:05.43\00:40:07.30 Thank you for your call. 00:40:07.30\00:40:08.34 We've got, let's see, our next caller. 00:40:08.34\00:40:09.64 We're gonna go to Jeff. 00:40:09.64\00:40:11.07 Jeff in Wellingham or Wilington, Delaware? 00:40:11.07\00:40:14.38 Jeff, welcome to the program. 00:40:14.38\00:40:15.91 - [Jeff] Hey, how you doing? 00:40:17.01\00:40:18.35 It's actually Wilmington. Wilmington, Delaware. 00:40:18.35\00:40:20.62 - There we go. (laughs) 00:40:20.62\00:40:21.68 - [Jeff] Like the one in North Carolina. 00:40:21.68\00:40:22.48 Well, first I wanna praise God 00:40:22.48\00:40:24.62 for Doug Batchelor and yourself, 00:40:24.62\00:40:27.26 your active involvement in the community 00:40:27.26\00:40:29.79 because I think if you look going back in the past, 00:40:29.79\00:40:34.83 it's really something 00:40:35.50\00:40:37.10 the Seventh-day Adventist Church needed to provide 00:40:37.10\00:40:38.43 and you guys are doing it. 00:40:38.43\00:40:39.67 So thank you very much. I appreciate it. 00:40:39.67\00:40:42.00 - Well, thank you. 00:40:42.00\00:40:42.97 And your question tonight? 00:40:42.97\00:40:44.07 - [Jeff] I actually have a couple. 00:40:45.81\00:40:47.14 Was Lucifer an anomaly? 00:40:47.14\00:40:49.54 How many men were translated? 00:40:49.54\00:40:51.51 Did angels fornicate with men? 00:40:51.51\00:40:54.48 And I have two other ones if you wanna wanna hit those. 00:40:54.48\00:40:57.02 - Oh yeah, let's. 00:40:57.02\00:40:58.59 First of all the one about, 00:40:58.59\00:41:00.12 "Did angels have intimate relations with men?" 00:41:00.12\00:41:02.72 That often comes from Genesis 6 where it says: 00:41:02.72\00:41:05.33 The sons of God saw the daughters of men, 00:41:05.33\00:41:07.13 that they were fair and took the wives of all they chose. 00:41:07.13\00:41:09.93 People think those sons of God are angels. 00:41:09.93\00:41:11.63 It's not at all what it's talking about. 00:41:11.63\00:41:13.67 It's talking about the descendants of Seth 00:41:13.67\00:41:15.94 intermarried with the descendants of Cain. 00:41:15.94\00:41:18.84 And once they lost that distinction, 00:41:18.84\00:41:20.61 violence filled the Earth. 00:41:20.61\00:41:22.11 We have a book on that that we'll send you. 00:41:22.11\00:41:24.98 It's called, "Angels: Alien or Adopted? 00:41:24.98\00:41:28.12 "Who Are the Sons of God?" 00:41:28.12\00:41:29.75 - The number to call is 800-835-6747. 00:41:29.75\00:41:32.92 And again, you can ask for the book it's called, 00:41:32.92\00:41:34.36 "Who Are the Sons of God?" 00:41:34.36\00:41:36.73 And I'm trying to think. 00:41:36.73\00:41:37.76 Was there another question that Jeff had? 00:41:37.76\00:41:39.46 - You asked? You threw two or three quick ones there. Yeah. 00:41:39.46\00:41:42.70 - [Jeff] Yeah. What are your thoughts? 00:41:42.70\00:41:43.97 Was Lucifer an anomaly? 00:41:43.97\00:41:45.37 'Cause you said God didn't create sin, 00:41:45.37\00:41:48.00 so Lucifer created sin. 00:41:48.00\00:41:49.70 Was that an anomaly? 00:41:49.70\00:41:51.51 - Well, no. 00:41:51.51\00:41:53.27 Well, what I mean by no is that God did not have a defect 00:41:53.27\00:41:56.61 if you mean by anomaly. 00:41:56.61\00:41:58.91 God made all of His creatures perfect. 00:41:58.91\00:42:00.58 And it even says in the Bible: 00:42:00.58\00:42:01.95 Thou was perfect in all your ways. 00:42:01.95\00:42:05.35 And part of the perfection is 00:42:05.35\00:42:07.19 Lucifer was made perfectly free. 00:42:07.19\00:42:09.96 And in his perfect freedom, 00:42:09.96\00:42:11.23 he was able to choose whether to love God supremely 00:42:11.23\00:42:15.46 or to start loving himself more. 00:42:15.46\00:42:17.77 And Lucifer became involved in self-worship. 00:42:17.77\00:42:21.57 He didn't wanna worship God. 00:42:21.57\00:42:22.67 He wanted to be God. 00:42:22.67\00:42:23.77 Says, "Thou has said in thy heart, 00:42:23.77\00:42:25.21 "'I will be like the Most High.'" 00:42:25.21\00:42:27.58 God is so free that He will even make a creature 00:42:27.58\00:42:31.28 that can choose not to love Him. 00:42:31.28\00:42:33.82 And so Lucifer, by his own free choice, 00:42:33.82\00:42:36.45 rebelled against God. 00:42:37.42\00:42:38.79 - And that of course reminds me of that free offer we have. 00:42:38.79\00:42:40.76 It's called, "Did God Create a Devil?" 00:42:40.76\00:42:42.62 And it deals with the subject. 00:42:42.62\00:42:44.36 The number to call for that is 800-835-6747. 00:42:44.36\00:42:48.20 Ask for the study guide, "Did God Create a Devil?" 00:42:48.20\00:42:51.50 Thanks for your call, Jeff. 00:42:51.50\00:42:53.00 We're gonna go to Yolanda listening in Arizona. 00:42:53.00\00:42:54.94 Yolanda, welcome to the program. 00:42:54.94\00:42:57.27 - [Yolanda] Hi. 00:42:57.27\00:42:58.11 - Hi. How are you doing? 00:42:58.11\00:42:59.01 - [Yolanda] I'm good. How are you? 00:43:00.18\00:43:01.28 - Yeah, doing great. And your question tonight? 00:43:01.28\00:43:03.81 - [Yolanda] Okay, so I have, first of all, 00:43:04.91\00:43:06.01 I'd like to tell you guys thank you so much 00:43:06.01\00:43:08.32 for Amazing Facts. 00:43:08.32\00:43:09.68 It was five years ago that I heard one of your sermons 00:43:09.68\00:43:12.92 and I heard things that I've never heard before. 00:43:12.92\00:43:16.86 So I wanna thank you for Amazing Facts 00:43:16.86\00:43:21.20 and to teaching the truth. 00:43:21.20\00:43:23.33 Thank you so much. 00:43:23.33\00:43:24.40 - Thank you so much. Yeah, it's our pleasure. 00:43:24.40\00:43:25.40 - [Yolanda] Okay. 00:43:25.40\00:43:26.53 So my question is in Genesis 4:23 and 24, 00:43:26.53\00:43:29.90 with Lamech, where it says, 00:43:31.57\00:43:33.61 "Hear my voice, you wives of Lamech. 00:43:33.61\00:43:35.84 "Harken unto my speech, 00:43:35.84\00:43:37.18 "for I have slain a man to my wounding 00:43:37.18\00:43:40.18 "and a young man to my hurt. 00:43:40.18\00:43:42.82 "If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, 00:43:42.82\00:43:45.02 "truly Lamech 70 and sevenfold." 00:43:45.02\00:43:48.56 I don't know what that means. 00:43:48.56\00:43:49.92 - Yeah, well it's going through the genealogies 00:43:49.92\00:43:52.36 and it just highlights this incident about Lamech. 00:43:52.36\00:43:54.96 And I think one reason it mentions it is, first of all, 00:43:54.96\00:43:57.90 it's the first mention of polygamy. 00:43:57.90\00:44:00.04 He has more than one wife. 00:44:00.04\00:44:01.40 It's not his wife. It's says, "His wives." 00:44:01.40\00:44:04.57 And he says, "Ada and Zilla, hear my voice. 00:44:04.57\00:44:06.64 "Wives of Lamech, listen to my speech." 00:44:06.64\00:44:09.24 And the way it's worded in the King James 00:44:09.24\00:44:11.38 is a little confusing. 00:44:11.38\00:44:12.58 New King James says, 00:44:12.58\00:44:13.68 "For I've killed a man for wounding me 00:44:13.68\00:44:16.58 "and a young man for hurting me." 00:44:16.58\00:44:17.92 So now Cain killed Abel with no provocation. 00:44:17.92\00:44:21.59 Abel did not attack Cain. 00:44:21.59\00:44:23.06 Cain killed him a premeditated cold-blooded murder. 00:44:23.06\00:44:26.66 Here Lamech is saying, "I killed a man. 00:44:26.66\00:44:29.36 "But if Cain's gonna be avenged sevenfold 00:44:29.36\00:44:31.30 "because he did it premeditated, I did it in self-defense, 00:44:31.30\00:44:34.37 "then I'll be avenged 70 times sevenfold." 00:44:34.37\00:44:37.37 And it's giving you a sample of 00:44:37.37\00:44:39.61 where you read later in Genesis 6, 00:44:39.61\00:44:41.28 violence was filling the land. 00:44:41.28\00:44:43.71 It says that it specifically mentions in Genesis 6. 00:44:43.71\00:44:46.65 Said there is just violence 00:44:46.65\00:44:48.65 and the men's thoughts were only evil continually. 00:44:48.65\00:44:51.52 Here you've got, in this one passage, 00:44:51.52\00:44:53.82 you've got polygamy or adultery and murder and violence. 00:44:53.82\00:44:58.89 So it's telling you that things were going south quickly. 00:45:00.26\00:45:02.13 So does that help a little, Yolanda? 00:45:03.60\00:45:06.43 - [Yolanda] Yes, it does. Thank you so much. 00:45:06.43\00:45:08.50 - Thank you. Appreciate your calling. 00:45:08.50\00:45:10.51 - We've got Joy listening from the Bronx in New York. 00:45:10.51\00:45:13.04 Joy, welcome to the program. 00:45:13.04\00:45:15.18 - [Joy] Thank you. Thank you for taking my call. 00:45:15.18\00:45:17.25 I would like to know who's the chief musician. 00:45:17.25\00:45:19.88 - [Doug] You're talking about in the Psalms? 00:45:20.95\00:45:23.59 - [Joy] Yes. 00:45:23.59\00:45:24.99 - Yeah, I think at one point when they had the sanctuary, 00:45:24.99\00:45:28.12 maybe even before the temple of Moses, 00:45:28.12\00:45:30.69 David, he had organized musicians. 00:45:30.69\00:45:34.50 David of course was a very accomplished musician. 00:45:34.50\00:45:37.13 He not only played the harp, 00:45:37.13\00:45:38.23 it says that he made instruments. 00:45:38.23\00:45:39.80 I don't know if he gave instruction on 00:45:39.80\00:45:41.20 how they were to make them, 00:45:41.20\00:45:42.27 but he was very skilled in doing it. 00:45:42.27\00:45:45.01 So much so the King brought him to his palace 00:45:45.01\00:45:47.31 to sing and to play. 00:45:47.31\00:45:48.78 And so David had a love for music. 00:45:48.78\00:45:50.45 He set up a choir that was to praise God in the temple. 00:45:50.45\00:45:53.82 And he had a chief choir director 00:45:53.82\00:45:56.02 and it's called the chief musician. 00:45:56.02\00:45:57.62 The first one that I think is mentioned is Asaph, 00:45:57.62\00:45:59.95 if I'm not mistaken. 00:45:59.95\00:46:01.12 And you'll see there are several Psalms 00:46:01.12\00:46:03.12 that are written by Asaph. 00:46:03.12\00:46:05.03 Not all the Psalms were written by David 00:46:05.03\00:46:07.23 in the Book of Psalms. 00:46:07.23\00:46:08.26 I think David wrote about 71 or 75 of them. 00:46:08.26\00:46:11.33 And so some of these songs may be compositions 00:46:12.63\00:46:15.64 that were written by David and for the chief musician 00:46:15.64\00:46:18.81 to then instruct the Levites and the singers to sing. 00:46:18.81\00:46:22.44 - And of course these Psalms are used 00:46:22.44\00:46:23.98 many, many years after David. 00:46:23.98\00:46:25.95 - Yeah. 00:46:25.95\00:46:27.18 - So you'd have different chief musicians 00:46:27.18\00:46:28.32 that would be in that role in the sanctuary. 00:46:28.32\00:46:29.92 - The music conductor. 00:46:29.92\00:46:30.79 - That's right. Yeah. 00:46:30.79\00:46:32.52 Coordinating the music. 00:46:32.52\00:46:33.32 - He was the chief conductor. 00:46:33.32\00:46:34.36 - All right, well thank you for your call. 00:46:34.36\00:46:35.36 That's a good question. Thanks, Joy. 00:46:35.36\00:46:37.53 Our next caller is Alex listening in Chicago. 00:46:37.53\00:46:39.59 Alex, welcome to the program. 00:46:39.59\00:46:41.10 - [Alex] Hi, thank you so much for taking my call 00:46:42.93\00:46:45.67 Pastor, both pastors. 00:46:45.67\00:46:48.04 Basically I have a question in terms of marriage 00:46:49.30\00:46:53.07 and what book I can look to, especially in Corinthians, 00:46:53.07\00:46:57.01 whether I should stay in a relationship 00:46:57.01\00:46:58.38 or I should leave a relationship 00:46:58.38\00:47:00.38 where I don't have a specific denomination. 00:47:00.38\00:47:03.42 I'm Adventist and he is not. 00:47:03.42\00:47:05.15 And I wanted to know what are some signs 00:47:05.15\00:47:07.59 God can be telling me to leave a relationship? 00:47:07.59\00:47:11.93 - Well, in the Bible 00:47:11.93\00:47:13.03 there are only a couple of examples 00:47:13.03\00:47:16.87 or biblical grounds for divorce. 00:47:18.40\00:47:21.50 One of those being where Jesus says in Matthew 19, 00:47:21.50\00:47:26.27 and I think it's also in Matthew 5, says, 00:47:26.27\00:47:29.91 "What God has joined together, 00:47:29.91\00:47:31.01 "let not man put asunder, 00:47:31.01\00:47:32.81 "saving for the cause of fornication." 00:47:32.81\00:47:34.85 So if a spouse moves in with someone else 00:47:34.85\00:47:38.02 and has an adulterous affair, 00:47:38.02\00:47:39.99 that's grounds for divorce. 00:47:39.99\00:47:41.76 It doesn't mean there has to be divorce. 00:47:41.76\00:47:43.29 If there's repentance and there can be reconciliation, 00:47:43.29\00:47:46.16 that's always better. 00:47:46.16\00:47:47.50 I mean, you think about all the times that God's church has, 00:47:47.50\00:47:50.20 according to the Bible, says: 00:47:50.20\00:47:51.93 The people of God have played the harlot against God 00:47:51.93\00:47:54.30 and yet He comes after us. 00:47:54.30\00:47:55.67 If you read the Book of Hosea it tells that story. 00:47:55.67\00:47:58.87 The other example, you mentioned Corinthians. 00:47:58.87\00:48:00.81 In 1 Corinthians 7, they had a specific situation where 00:48:00.81\00:48:05.88 Paul was preaching to these Roman pagans, 00:48:06.98\00:48:08.52 they don't worship God, and if one of them accepted Jesus. 00:48:08.52\00:48:12.29 So you've got the Greco-Roman pagan 00:48:12.29\00:48:15.19 and they worship Jupiter and all these gods, 00:48:15.19\00:48:17.06 and then they accepted Christ, they got rid of idolatry. 00:48:17.06\00:48:19.96 Well, their spouse was so upset, they said, 00:48:19.96\00:48:21.56 "Look, I didn't sign up for this. 00:48:21.56\00:48:23.80 "I married you. I thought we were in the same religion. 00:48:23.80\00:48:26.07 "Now you've left and become a Christian. I'm leaving you." 00:48:26.07\00:48:29.40 Paul said, "Well, try to get them to stay if they can. 00:48:29.40\00:48:32.54 "If they choose to leave, then let them depart in peace." 00:48:32.54\00:48:36.41 So he mentions a specific case there. 00:48:36.41\00:48:38.38 He's not talking about when two believers, 00:48:38.38\00:48:40.88 well, just are having irreconcilable differences. 00:48:42.28\00:48:45.52 They're married and they gotta work it out. 00:48:45.52\00:48:47.72 So hopefully that gives you some background. 00:48:47.72\00:48:51.83 And by the way, that's in 1 Corinthians 7 00:48:51.83\00:48:53.93 you'll find most of that there. 00:48:53.93\00:48:55.50 - Now Alex, were you also asking about dating or marriage? 00:48:55.50\00:48:59.33 - [Alex] As far as I'm aware, 00:49:00.50\00:49:02.04 there is no mention of dating in the Bible 00:49:02.04\00:49:04.81 or at least New Testament. 00:49:04.81\00:49:06.44 So I wanted to know, I guess, 00:49:08.01\00:49:10.95 does God give you hints whether to stay 00:49:10.95\00:49:13.38 or leave a relationship, 00:49:13.38\00:49:14.88 especially when this person's making it hard 00:49:14.88\00:49:17.62 or asking for a break and staying faithful and all that. 00:49:17.62\00:49:22.26 - Yeah, if you're married then we don't ever recommend 00:49:23.93\00:49:28.70 a person stays in an abusive relationship. 00:49:28.70\00:49:31.03 There should be separation, hopefully counseling. 00:49:31.03\00:49:33.97 But marriage is very serious business and it's a covenant. 00:49:33.97\00:49:36.97 And if you've made that covenant- 00:49:36.97\00:49:38.21 - And of course before marriage, 00:49:38.21\00:49:39.34 the Bible does tell us in 2 Corinthians 6:14 00:49:39.34\00:49:42.81 not to be unequally yoked. 00:49:42.81\00:49:44.41 - Right. 00:49:44.41\00:49:45.68 - And maybe this is what 00:49:45.68\00:49:46.78 your question is also referring to, Alex. 00:49:46.78\00:49:47.82 If we're in a dating relationship 00:49:47.82\00:49:49.65 or a courtship type of relationship with an unbeliever 00:49:49.65\00:49:52.75 or somebody who might be a Christian 00:49:52.75\00:49:55.12 but their beliefs are quite different than your beliefs, 00:49:55.12\00:49:58.69 well, the Bible does give us counsel on that. 00:49:58.69\00:50:00.43 And it's gonna be a challenge 00:50:00.43\00:50:02.56 to have a strong healthy marriage 00:50:02.56\00:50:05.33 if you have people believing things differently. 00:50:05.33\00:50:07.64 - [Doug] Mm-hmm. 00:50:07.64\00:50:08.94 - You know, you have all kinds of questions that arise 00:50:08.94\00:50:10.64 when children come along. 00:50:10.64\00:50:11.97 Are they gonna go to which parent's church? 00:50:11.97\00:50:14.61 And there's all kinds of issues. 00:50:14.61\00:50:16.04 So the counsel that we have in the Bible is 00:50:16.04\00:50:18.15 do not be unequally yolked with unbelievers. 00:50:18.15\00:50:20.88 - Yeah. 00:50:20.88\00:50:21.82 Now we have a book that 00:50:21.82\00:50:22.95 I've written on the subject of marriage. 00:50:22.95\00:50:25.42 It's called, "Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage." 00:50:25.42\00:50:27.22 And we'll send you 00:50:27.22\00:50:28.62 or someone else that might be wanting Bible answers on that 00:50:28.62\00:50:30.89 a free copy. 00:50:30.89\00:50:31.99 - The number to call for that is 800-835-6747. 00:50:31.99\00:50:35.73 And again, the book is called, 00:50:35.73\00:50:37.07 "Marriage, Divorce and Remarriage." 00:50:37.07\00:50:38.97 We'll send that to anyone in North America. 00:50:38.97\00:50:41.04 All you have to do is call that number. 00:50:41.04\00:50:43.24 And we've got somebody calling from South Korea. 00:50:43.24\00:50:45.24 Let's see if I can pronounce his name. 00:50:45.24\00:50:46.98 We have Jowa from South Korea. Welcome to the program. 00:50:46.98\00:50:50.98 - [Jowa] Oh, thank you so much 00:50:52.78\00:50:54.05 for pronouncing my name just right. 00:50:54.05\00:50:55.88 This is my first time calling. 00:50:55.88\00:50:57.65 - Oh, welcome. 00:50:57.65\00:50:58.75 - [Jowa] My question is 00:50:58.75\00:51:02.89 my friend believes that China and America 00:51:02.89\00:51:05.36 are two fighting dragons, according to his understanding 00:51:05.36\00:51:10.30 of the Book of Daniel and Revelation. 00:51:10.30\00:51:13.17 But I don't see it in the Bible. 00:51:14.34\00:51:15.40 What's your take on that? 00:51:15.40\00:51:16.71 - Yeah, it's a common belief that 00:51:17.77\00:51:19.07 because you look in the world today 00:51:19.07\00:51:20.94 and people think of a lion, they think of Great Britain, 00:51:20.94\00:51:23.55 and the eagle, they think of the US. 00:51:23.55\00:51:25.15 And almost internationally 00:51:25.15\00:51:27.78 because the dragon is a big part of Chinese festivities, 00:51:27.78\00:51:30.32 people think that the dragon is China. 00:51:30.32\00:51:32.65 In prophecy when it talks about the dragon, 00:51:32.65\00:51:34.62 it had nothing to do with China. 00:51:34.62\00:51:36.36 China was not known as the dragon in Bible times. 00:51:36.36\00:51:39.43 The dragon in Bible prophecies talking about the Devil. 00:51:39.43\00:51:42.80 In Revelation 12, it's more specifically talking about 00:51:42.80\00:51:45.50 the Devil working through the Roman Empire. 00:51:45.50\00:51:48.14 When the dragon sought to devour the man child, 00:51:48.14\00:51:51.27 that's when the Devil tried to destroy Jesus 00:51:51.27\00:51:53.94 as a baby in Bethlehem. 00:51:53.94\00:51:56.18 And so we've got a whole study that talks about that. 00:51:56.18\00:51:59.41 But yes, folks, 00:51:59.41\00:52:01.12 I believe that China may be mentioned in prophecy, 00:52:01.12\00:52:03.69 but it's not the dragon in prophecy. 00:52:03.69\00:52:05.99 - And we do find America mentioned 00:52:05.99\00:52:07.69 in the Book of Revelation. 00:52:07.69\00:52:08.82 It's actually the second beast power 00:52:08.82\00:52:10.53 that you read about in Revelation 13. 00:52:10.53\00:52:12.36 - But we're not the eagle. (laughs) 00:52:12.36\00:52:13.46 - No, we're not the eagle there. (laughs) 00:52:13.46\00:52:15.06 - So can't use those modern, what do you call, 00:52:15.06\00:52:18.50 icons anymore. 00:52:18.50\00:52:20.00 - Yep. All right, well, thanks for your call. 00:52:20.00\00:52:21.74 We're gonna go to- 00:52:21.74\00:52:22.57 - Oh, we could offer him 00:52:22.57\00:52:23.57 that lesson on American prophecy too. 00:52:23.57\00:52:24.81 - Oh, that's a good one. Yes. 00:52:24.81\00:52:26.17 Again, if you're outside of North America, which you are, 00:52:26.17\00:52:28.44 just go to the Amazing Facts website 00:52:28.44\00:52:30.41 and you can read the study guide. 00:52:30.41\00:52:31.41 It's called, "America in Prophecy." 00:52:31.41\00:52:33.62 If you're in North America, 00:52:33.62\00:52:35.18 the number to call is 800-835-6747. 00:52:35.18\00:52:38.82 Ask for the study guide, "America in Prophecy." 00:52:38.82\00:52:41.39 We've got, let's see, Lynn listening in Michigan. 00:52:41.39\00:52:43.86 Lynn, we have just a couple minutes 00:52:43.86\00:52:45.49 before we take a quick break. 00:52:45.49\00:52:47.00 - [Lynn] Yes, hello gentlemen. 00:52:48.06\00:52:49.53 I have a very quick question. 00:52:49.53\00:52:51.70 God created light right off the bat. 00:52:53.13\00:52:56.20 I'm just wondering, in the war in Heaven, 00:52:56.20\00:52:59.04 in the time before He created light, 00:52:59.04\00:53:01.74 I can't believe it was dark then. 00:53:01.74\00:53:04.95 I don't know. Maybe they had a different sensory system. 00:53:04.95\00:53:09.28 But if light wasn't created till Earth's time, 00:53:09.28\00:53:12.59 was it dark in the war in Heaven? 00:53:14.22\00:53:16.09 - No, because you can read in 1 John 1:5, it says: 00:53:16.09\00:53:21.13 This is the message we have heard from Him 00:53:22.23\00:53:23.53 and declare to you that God is light 00:53:23.53\00:53:26.67 and in Him is no darkness at all. 00:53:26.67\00:53:29.00 So when God came to this corner of the universe 00:53:29.00\00:53:31.11 and began creating just by His coming here, 00:53:31.11\00:53:33.84 He said, "Let there be light." 00:53:33.84\00:53:35.61 His presence glows. 00:53:35.61\00:53:37.21 I mean, Moses came away from the presence of God 00:53:37.21\00:53:38.95 and Moses was glowing. 00:53:38.95\00:53:40.98 Kinda like that radioactive clock 00:53:40.98\00:53:42.72 you used to hold to the light 00:53:42.72\00:53:43.82 and then you turn off the lights, 00:53:43.82\00:53:44.62 it glowed for a little while. 00:53:44.62\00:53:46.12 Through exposure to God, Moses was glowing. 00:53:46.12\00:53:48.69 So when God came to this darkened part of the cosmos, 00:53:48.69\00:53:53.60 He said, "Let there be light." 00:53:53.60\00:53:55.06 And He began to divide the day from darkness, 00:53:55.06\00:53:57.47 just by, I think, spinning the Earth. 00:53:57.47\00:53:59.77 And whatever side was facing Him was day 00:53:59.77\00:54:01.50 'cause He doesn't make the Sun until the fourth day. 00:54:01.50\00:54:05.01 So in Heaven, God's glory and light is there. 00:54:05.01\00:54:09.71 And you read in Revelation it says 00:54:09.71\00:54:11.15 there is no need of the Sun in the City of God, 00:54:11.15\00:54:13.92 for the Lord God illuminates the city in Heaven. 00:54:13.92\00:54:17.65 - And when you read the different descriptions of Heaven 00:54:17.65\00:54:20.42 that the prophets saw in the Bible, 00:54:20.42\00:54:22.42 they speak about the glory and the brilliance 00:54:22.42\00:54:25.13 and just the majesty of the presence of God. 00:54:25.13\00:54:28.46 - [Doug] Yeah. 00:54:28.46\00:54:29.53 - The light shining forth from God. 00:54:29.53\00:54:30.83 When the children of Israel were in the wilderness 00:54:30.83\00:54:31.90 and the Shekinah glory, the presence, 00:54:31.90\00:54:34.57 the visible presence of God, 00:54:34.57\00:54:35.90 was revealed there in the tabernacle, in the sanctuary, 00:54:35.90\00:54:38.71 there was a light, a glorious light. 00:54:38.71\00:54:40.98 And of course, 00:54:40.98\00:54:42.24 when God gave the 10 Commandments on Mount Sinai, 00:54:42.24\00:54:43.85 there was thundering and light and just great majesty. 00:54:43.85\00:54:47.28 - Yeah, the presence of God is, Bible says: 00:54:47.28\00:54:50.39 The wicked are destroyed by the brightness of His coming. 00:54:50.39\00:54:53.62 And so God is light. 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00:56:13.07\00:56:16.20 "Is that possible?" 00:56:16.20\00:56:18.41 - Well, if you're a Christian, 00:56:18.41\00:56:19.47 I would think you'd wanna be a Jesus hunter. 00:56:19.47\00:56:21.34 - Amen. 00:56:21.34\00:56:22.38 - Why would you wanna hunt for ghosts? 00:56:22.38\00:56:23.91 First of all, 00:56:23.91\00:56:25.31 some people think that ghosts are the spirits of dead people 00:56:25.31\00:56:28.85 that are haunting. 00:56:28.85\00:56:30.62 But the Bible's very clear. 00:56:30.62\00:56:32.02 The living know they'll die, the dead know not anything. 00:56:32.02\00:56:34.32 And you can read in the Book of Job, 00:56:34.32\00:56:35.59 and I think it's chapter 14, says: 00:56:35.59\00:56:38.16 When a man dies, his sons come to honor. 00:56:38.16\00:56:40.53 He doesn't know anything of it. 00:56:40.53\00:56:41.86 He does not return to his house to go haunt his house. 00:56:41.86\00:56:44.73 And so the ghosts that people think they're seeing 00:56:44.73\00:56:48.44 are typically fallen angels, 00:56:48.44\00:56:51.07 sometimes called evil spirits in the Bible, 00:56:51.07\00:56:53.68 that are posing as the dead. 00:56:53.68\00:56:56.44 And you've got an example of that in, I believe it says 00:56:56.44\00:56:59.78 at the end of 1 Samuel where you know, 00:56:59.78\00:57:02.82 Saul goes to see the Witch of Endor 00:57:02.82\00:57:04.52 and this evil spirit impersonates through a medium, 00:57:04.52\00:57:09.59 the dead prophet. 00:57:10.26\00:57:11.56 And as a result of going, trying to consult with the dead, 00:57:11.56\00:57:15.46 Saul ends up losing the battle. 00:57:15.46\00:57:18.03 His three sons die and he commits suicide the next day 00:57:18.03\00:57:21.10 along with his armor bearer. 00:57:21.10\00:57:22.64 It didn't end well. 00:57:22.64\00:57:24.01 The Lord says, "Have nothing to do with a Necromancer." 00:57:24.01\00:57:26.91 And that means somebody who is consulting with the dead. 00:57:26.91\00:57:29.91 - You know, we do have a study guide talking about this. 00:57:29.91\00:57:31.91 It's got an intriguing title. 00:57:31.91\00:57:33.52 It says, "Are the Dead Really Dead?" 00:57:33.52\00:57:35.55 And it talks about the subject. 00:57:35.55\00:57:37.19 It's important, Pastor Doug, that we understand this 00:57:37.19\00:57:38.99 because we know in the last days 00:57:38.99\00:57:40.96 the Devil is gonna do everything he can to deceive. 00:57:40.96\00:57:43.12 And I think one of his deceptions 00:57:43.12\00:57:44.83 is dead loved ones appearing 00:57:44.83\00:57:46.63 and saying things that would contradict the Bible. 00:57:46.63\00:57:48.76 - That'll confuse folks. 00:57:48.76\00:57:49.90 You know, we also have another website called 00:57:49.90\00:57:51.67 ghosttruth.com. 00:57:51.67\00:57:52.57 And some of our friends are writing in questions 00:57:54.20\00:57:57.07 or in prison, they may not have access to the internet, 00:57:57.07\00:57:59.44 but for those of you that do, 00:57:59.44\00:58:00.78 you can just go to ghosttruth.com. 00:58:00.78\00:58:03.21 Hey friends, we've run out of time 00:58:03.21\00:58:04.61 for our "Bible Answers" program for this week, 00:58:04.61\00:58:07.12 but God willing, 00:58:07.12\00:58:08.48 we're gonna be back together with you again next week. 00:58:08.48\00:58:10.45 We hope that you'll tell your friends to tune in now on AFTV 00:58:10.45\00:58:14.02 as well as these other stations. 00:58:14.02\00:58:15.66 God bless. 00:58:15.66\00:58:16.86 (upbeat orchestral music) 00:58:16.86\00:58:18.36 - [Announcer] "Bible Answers Live," 00:58:18.36\00:58:20.26 honest and accurate answers to your Bible questions. 00:58:20.26\00:58:24.03