Let's pray. Our beloved heavenly
Father, once again we come into
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your presence with gratefulness
in our hearts because we know
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that You're a loving God, and
You want us to know how things
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will unwind in the last
days so that we can be prepared.
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We ask that as we study this
evening, the last portion of the
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third angel's message, that Your
Holy Spirit will be with us.
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Help us to understand
the urgency of the times
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in which we are living.
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And help us to understand
what the final punishment
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of the wicked, and
Satan, and his angels will be,
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so that we can admire
and love Your character.
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And we thank You
Father for hearing our prayer,
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for we ask it in the
precious name of Jesus, Amen.
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I'd like to begin by
reading Revelation 14:9-11,
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Revelation 14:9-11.
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In our presentation last
time we discussed the first part
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of the third angel's message.
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And I'm going to read that
portion, and then do a little
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review, and then we'll begin
with what we're going to study
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in our lecture today.
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It says there in Revelation 14:9
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That is followed
the first two angels.
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Of course we studied yesterday
that Jesus Christ drank the wine
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of the wrath of God from
the cup; the cup that His
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own Father gave Him.
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And Jesus drank the
cup of the wrath of God
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for everyone on Planet Earth.
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But the sad thing is
those who refuse to receive the
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third angel's message will
have to drink the cup of God's
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wrath, the wine of
God's wrath themselves,
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because they rejected
what Jesus Christ did for them
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when He came to this earth.
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What a waste! They
could have been saved.
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But instead of
following Christ, they chose to
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follow the antichrist.
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And, by the way, we have studied
that the antichrist does not
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mean, primarily against Christ,
but it means one who seeks
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to occupy the place of Christ.
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So the third angel's message
says that those who worship
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the one who seeks to
occupy the place of Christ,
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and the image of that beast,
which we've already studied,
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and receives his mark;
those are going to receive
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the wine of the wrath of God.
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Because they did not accept
Jesus Christ, the true Messiah,
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but they chose to
follow a counterfeit.
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They chose to
follow the beast, who is a
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counterfeit Christ on earth.
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And then we read, continuing
in the third angel's message,
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the following: this is
the middle of verse 10.
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He shall be tormented...
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That is those who
receive the mark of the beast,
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who worship the
beast, who worship the image,
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who receive the
number of his name.
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He shall be tormented with fire
and brimstone in the presence
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of the holy angels, and
in the presence of the Lamb.
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So the culmination of the
outpouring of God's wrath is
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found when fire and brimstone
falls from heaven, and consumes
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those who worship the beast,
his image, and receive the
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mark of the beast.
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So what we're studying is
a matter of life and death.
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You know, it's
not an optional thing.
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Well, you know, I will choose
to accept the third angel's
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message, or I'll
choose to reject the
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third angel's message.
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The fact is that if we accept
the message, we're going to be
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saved, and we're going to
survive, and we're going to
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have eternal life
because Jesus drank the cup.
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But if we follow the
beast, and receive his mark,
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and worship his image,
we're going to be lost.
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We're going to drink the cup
of the wine of the wrath of God
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without mixture of mercy.
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And the Bible tells us that this
is going to be the culmination,
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the fire and brimstone is going
to be the culmination of the
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punishment against the wicked.
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Now I want to dwell, especially
in our lecture today, about what
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forever means, because
you notice here that it says
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that the smoke of their torment
ascends forever and ever.
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And there are other
passages in the Bible that speak
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about eternal fire.
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Notice, for example,
Matthew 25: 41, Matthew 25:41.
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This is a very
important passage.
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It's the parable, or the story
of the sheep and the goats;
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when Jesus separates
the sheep and the goats.
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It says there in verse 41:
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Once again, the fire is
called what? everlasting fire.
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The fire and brimstone
is an everlasting fire.
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Notice Matthew
25:46, Matthew 25:46,
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just a few verses
further down. It says:
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And so you have
everlasting punishment.
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You have eternal fire.
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You have no rest day or night.
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Does this mean that those who
worship the beast and his image,
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and receive the mark, are
going to burn forever and ever,
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and ever, and they're
never going to go out?
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I want you to notice
also Revelation 20:10.
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We're going to answer this
question that I just formulated,
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and we're going to take
a look at what Scripture
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has to say, not
tradition. Revelation 20:10.
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It's speaking here about
the Devil. It says there:
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And what? See, there it
is again; fire and brim...
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Is the Devil going to suffer
the unmitigated wrath of God?
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Is he going to have to drink
the cup of the wrath of God?
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the culmination of the
drinking of the cup? Absolutely.
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Really the tense of the verb
is where the beast and the false
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prophet were cast.
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That's the antecedent verb,
so it shows that they were cast
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into the fire immediately before
the beginning of the millennium.
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And then it says at the end
of the verse: And they will be
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tormented day and
night, forever and ever.
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Now does this mean that the
wicked are also going to burn
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in the fire forever and ever,
and the Devil and his angels
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are going to burn in
the fire forever and ever?
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They're going to continue
drinking the cup of God's wrath
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forever where
they'll never go out?
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Is that what
Scripture is trying to teach?
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Well, that's what we're
going to take a look at,
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especially in our study today.
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In order to understand what
we are going to look at today,
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we need to
understand what Scripture means
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by everlasting fire.
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Now you'll notice that Scripture
does not say that the wicked
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will burn eternally.
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Scripture says that
the fire burns eternally.
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There's a distinction.
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The fire is eternal fire,
but it doesn't say that the
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wicked are eternal.
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We're going to
notice that that's a very
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significant distinction.
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Now what is the eternal fire?
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Well, in order to understand
it, we need to go back to an
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Old Testament story;
the story of the destruction
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of Sodom and Gomorrah.
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So I invite you to go
with me to Genesis 19:24
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and we'll also read verse 28.
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It says there: Then the
Lord rained... Notice this.
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...brimstone and fire.
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Is this the same expression
we find in Revelation?
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Most certainly.
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And where did this
brimstone and fire come from?
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Is that where the fire and
brimstone comes in Revelation?
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Absolutely. Verse 28.
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We'll jump from
verse 24 to verse 28.
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Notice the smoke ascends
once the cities are burned
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with fire and
brimstone. It says:
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That is Abraham.
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Does Revelation also speak about
smoke going up? Absolutely.
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So Revelation speaks
about fire and brimstone.
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It speaks about smoke going
up, and it speaks about the fire
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and brimstone
coming from heaven.
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Now go with me to Jude, verse 7.
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And we only give the
verse because Jude only has
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one chapter, so Jude verse 7.
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And let's notice what
kind of fire destroyed
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Sodom and Gomorrah.
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There's a
particular type of fire that
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destroyed these cities.
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The fire and brimstone that fell
from heaven, and the smoke went
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up like a furnace; it
was a certain kind of fire.
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Notice Jude 7. It says there:
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These cities are
set forth as an example.
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What kind of fire
destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah?
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The Bible says that it was
eternal fire that destroyed
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Sodom and Gomorrah.
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It was eternal fire and
brimstone, if you please.
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Because we just read that
fire and brimstone fell from
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heaven upon the cities.
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Now I want you to notice
a text that appears to be in
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contradiction with Jude 7.
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2 Peter 2:6, and I underlined
the word appears because there
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are no contradictions in the
Bible when you study carefully.
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2 Peter 2:6, Speaking
about the cities of Sodom
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and Gomorrah it says,
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What were Sodom and
Gomorrah reduced to?
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They were reduced to
ashes, but they were destroyed
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with what kind of fire?
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They were
destroyed with everlasting,
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or with eternal fire.
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Now the question is,
are Sodom and Gomorrah
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still burning today?
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Sodom and Gomorrah
are not burning today.
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So eternal fire must mean
something different than what
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most people
assume that it means.
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Are you
understanding what I'm saying?
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The question is, what
is the fire that destroyed
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Sodom and Gomorrah?
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We need to go to a few
other texts in the Old Testament
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that explain what that fire is.
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Go with me to Deuteronomy
4:23, 24, Deuteronomy 4:23, 24.
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Here God is warning
Israel not to practice idolatry.
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And notice what it says.
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Take heed to yourselves lest you
forget the covenant of the Lord
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your God which He made with
you, and make for yourselves
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a carved image in the
form of anything which the Lord
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your God has forbidden you.
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In other words,
don't make any idols.
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And then it says in verse
24 the reason why you should
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not make these idols.
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For the Lord your God is
what? is a consuming fire,
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a jealous God. Let
me ask you, What is God?
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God is a what? a consuming fire.
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So we begin to
understand what the fire is.
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The fire is whom?
God, according to this.
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Ah, you're saying, Is God then
a bunch of flames of fire? No.
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We're going to notice that
God is fire in a specific sense.
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Now go with me to Hebrews
12:28, 29, where this verse,
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Deuteronomy 4:24 is
quoted in the New Testament.
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Hebrews 12:28, 29. Therefore,
since we are receiving a kingdom
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which cannot be shaken, let us
have grace by which we may serve
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God acceptably with
reverence and Godly fear.
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Now why should we
serve God acceptably,
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with reverence and Godly fear?
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Notice: For our God
is a consuming fire.
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Who is the consuming fire?
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God is the consuming
fire, according to this.
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Now, does this mean that God
is composed of flames of fire?
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Of course not. Fire means
something concerning the nature
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of God; who God is.
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I want you to
notice Exodus 24: 15-17.
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In our last lecture we
noticed that God and sin
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cannot exist together.
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That's why God ultimately has to
eradicate sin from the universe.
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Because holiness
and sin cannot coexist.
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Now I want you to
notice Exodus 24:15.
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Now praise the Lord that
there was a cloud that covered
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the mountain, or else Israel
would have been wiped out.
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It continues saying in verse 16:
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Now notice this:
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What is it that is
like a consuming fire?
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The what? The glory of the Lord.
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Let me ask you, What is it
that destroyed the cities of
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Sodom and Gomorrah?
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The fire and brimstone that fell
from heaven was a manifestation.
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For a moment God withdrew
the veil that covered Him from
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Sodom and Gomorrah seeing
Him, and immediately the cities
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were totally destroyed.
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Go with me to Revelation
15:2, Revelation 15:2.
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Here it's speaking
about a sea, a crystal sea
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in heaven where God lives.
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And I want you to notice a very
interesting detail concerning
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this sea of glass.
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It says in Revelation 15:2
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Here you have this crystal clear
sea, which is, it looks like
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it's mingled
with what? with fire.
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Do you know why it looks
like it's mingled with fire?
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Because as you read in
Revelation 21 and 22 the throne
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of God stands immediately
above the sea of glass.
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And undoubtedly the glory of
God is reflected in that sea of
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glass, and therefore the
sea of glass looks like it's
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mingled with fire.
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So, in other words,
God is a consuming fire.
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The glory of God is a
consuming fire against sin.
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And, of course, we've already
studied that the glory of God
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also has to do
with His character.
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And the wicked have a
character totally opposite
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than the character of God.
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Therefore the glory of
God, when He reveals Himself,
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consumes the wicked.
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Now let me ask you, If
God is the consuming fire,
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and the consuming
fire is the glory of God,
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how long has God had this glory?
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I suppose He got it just
6,000 years ago. Of course not.
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How long has God
been a glorious God?
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He's been a
glorious God forever.
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So let me ask you, Can we speak
of God as everlasting fire?
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or He has
everlasting glory? Absolutely.
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So it is God, as the
fire, who is everlasting.
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Does that mean
that that which the fire
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consumes is everlasting?
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Never in the Bible will
you find that what the fire
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consumes is everlasting.
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People just assumed that because
the Bible uses the expression
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everlasting
fire, or eternal fire.
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But it's the fire that's
eternal, because God is eternal;
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His glory is eternal.
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Are you
understanding what I'm saying?
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Now I'm going to show from
Scripture that the wicked are
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going to be destroyed.
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Notice Malachi
4:1, 3, Malachi 4:1, 3.
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For, behold, the day is
coming, burning like an oven;
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and all the proud, yea, all who
do wickedly, will be stubble:
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and the day which is
coming shall what? burn them up.
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What does burn them up mean?
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It means that it just burns,
and burns, and burns, and burns?
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No, to burn up means that
ultimately it what? it goes out.
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Exactly. And so it says,
And that day, which is coming,
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shall burn them up, says the
Lord of hosts, that will leave
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them neither root nor branch.
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Who is the root? Who is
the root of all evil? Satan.
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And who are the branches?
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The branches are His followers.
00:19:10.15\00:19:11.85
Jesus says, I am the
vine, you are the branches.
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The Devil is the root, and
the branches are His followers.
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And now notice verse 3. It says,
You shall trample the wicked;
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for they shall be what? ashes
under the soles of your feet
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on the day that I do
this, says the Lord of hosts.
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What are the wicked going be?
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They're going to be what? ashes.
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How can they be ashes and still
be burning forever and ever?
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It's impossible. What are ashes?
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Ashes are the result of
everything there is to burn.
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Once the fire has burned
everything the result is ashes,
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and the fire
what? the fire goes out.
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Well let me ask you, Does
the source of the fire go out?
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Absolutely not,
because the source of the fire
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is the glory of God.
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Notice also Revelation 20:9,
a very interesting expression.
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Revelation 20:9,
speaking about the wicked
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surrounding the
holy city. It says:
00:20:05.00\00:20:07.04
See the same as
Sodom and Gomorrah.
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See, it originates with God.
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You say, What does
that word devour mean?
00:20:26.25\00:20:29.46
Well, I'll just give you
this reference: Matthew 13:4.
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It speaks about the parable
of the sower, and it says there:
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And as he sowed some seed fell
by the wayside, and the birds
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came and devoured them.
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How many seeds were left after
the birds finished devouring
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them? Absolutely none.
00:20:51.31\00:20:53.18
It's the same word
that's used in Revelation.
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To devour means that the
fire totally eats them up,
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and totally destroys them.
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Notice Revelation 21:8,
what this fire produces.
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It does not produce
eternal life in misery.
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It says in Revelation 21:8
00:21:10.60\00:21:13.00
There it is again.
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Do you know
what second death is?
00:21:33.96\00:21:35.76
Second death is simply
that death from which there
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is no resurrection.
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You see, everybody has been
born into this world as living
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their first life, or
has lived their first life.
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Those who die in Christ, when
Jesus comes they'll resurrect,
00:21:48.70\00:21:54.18
and they'll live, so to
speak, their second life.
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They'll live
for the second time.
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But the wicked will
all die before Jesus comes,
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or at the coming of Jesus,
the rest of those who are alive,
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and they will remain dead
during the thousand years.
00:22:05.62\00:22:08.72
After the thousand years they
will what? they will resurrect.
00:22:08.76\00:22:12.73
And then they're
going to be judged by God,
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as we studied previously.
00:22:15.23\00:22:16.56
And then they're going to be
what? destroyed with the fire.
00:22:16.60\00:22:20.50
And that is called
what? second death.
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You can't have a second death
unless you had the first death.
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So how many deaths are
God's people going to suffer?
00:22:25.97\00:22:28.58
Only one death. How many deaths
are the wicked going to suffer?
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They are going to
suffer two deaths.
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In fact Jeremiah 51 says they
shall sleep an eternal sleep,
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and they shall not awake.
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Now, this might surprise you,
but the Bible teaches that it's
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the righteous who are
going to live in the midst
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of the everlasting fire.
00:22:52.97\00:22:54.30
You say, Wait a minute, Pastor.
00:22:54.34\00:22:56.50
Are you saying that the
righteous are going to hell?
00:22:56.54\00:22:58.67
No, I'm not saying the
righteous are going to hell.
00:22:58.71\00:23:01.08
I'm saying that the righteous
are going to live in the midst
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of the presence of God.
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They're going to live in
the midst of the eternal fire,
00:23:06.08\00:23:09.92
and they're not going to
be burned, because they have a
00:23:09.95\00:23:12.09
fireproof character.
00:23:12.12\00:23:13.46
You say, Where does the
Bible teach such a thing?
00:23:13.49\00:23:15.66
Go with me to Isaiah
33:14, 15, Isaiah 33:14, 15.
00:23:15.69\00:23:21.76
The sinners in Zion
are afraid; fearfulness has
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seized the hypocrites.
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And then the question is asked,
00:23:27.84\00:23:29.27
Who can dwell with
the devouring fire?
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Who can dwell with
the everlasting burnings?
00:23:43.45\00:23:46.49
What would most Christians say?
00:23:46.52\00:23:48.12
The sinful, wicked people.
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But notice the
answer that Isaiah gives.
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Isn't that interesting?
00:24:14.78\00:24:16.58
The Christian world has
it the wrong way around.
00:24:16.62\00:24:20.59
They say that the
wicked are going to live in the
00:24:20.62\00:24:22.99
fire forever and ever.
00:24:23.02\00:24:24.36
The Bible says that
the righteous will live the
00:24:24.39\00:24:26.86
presence of the
eternal fire forever,
00:24:26.90\00:24:29.03
and they will not be burned.
00:24:29.06\00:24:30.40
They'll be like the
three young men that were cast
00:24:30.43\00:24:32.63
into the fiery furnace.
00:24:32.67\00:24:34.04
You see, they had the
character of Jesus Christ,
00:24:34.07\00:24:37.21
and therefore the
fires did not consume them.
00:24:37.24\00:24:39.47
That was common little old
human fire, but we're talking
00:24:39.51\00:24:43.38
here about the devouring
fire of the glory of God.
00:24:43.41\00:24:46.58
And God's people will be able
to dwell in the midst of the
00:24:46.61\00:24:49.92
devouring fire
and not be consumed.
00:24:49.95\00:24:52.29
Now you say, Well, Pastor,
if you say that Satan and his
00:24:52.32\00:24:55.92
angels, and the wicked
are not going to burn forever,
00:24:55.96\00:24:58.69
the question is, Are they going
to burn for a short period,
00:24:58.73\00:25:03.67
for a long period?
00:25:03.70\00:25:05.03
How long are they going to burn?
00:25:05.07\00:25:06.97
Is everybody going to
suffer the same length?
00:25:07.00\00:25:09.80
Well, do you know the Bible
tells us that the punishment
00:25:09.84\00:25:14.38
upon the wicked will be
according to their what?
00:25:14.41\00:25:18.48
according to their works.
00:25:18.51\00:25:20.98
Let's notice Luke
12:47, 48, Luke 12:47, 28.
00:25:21.02\00:25:27.12
This is a parable of Jesus,
and He says: And that servant,
00:25:27.16\00:25:30.79
who knew his master's will,
and did not prepare himself,
00:25:30.83\00:25:34.70
or do according to his
will, shall be beaten with what?
00:25:34.73\00:25:37.70
many stripes. But he who did
not know, yet committed things
00:25:37.73\00:25:42.24
deserving of stripes shall
be beaten with what? with few.
00:25:42.27\00:25:46.84
For everyone to whom much
is given, from him much will be
00:25:46.88\00:25:51.08
required; and to whom
much has been committed,
00:25:51.11\00:25:55.68
of him they will ask the more.
00:25:55.72\00:25:58.39
Let me ask you, Is the final
punishment going to be according
00:25:58.42\00:26:02.06
to the sinfulness of
the individual? Absolutely.
00:26:02.09\00:26:04.99
Notice Revelation
20:13, Revelation 20:13.
00:26:05.03\00:26:09.96
This is after the
millennium. It says:
00:26:10.00\00:26:12.33
So the punishment that is going
to be meted out is according
00:26:24.65\00:26:28.48
to the works which
were performed by the
00:26:28.52\00:26:31.39
individuals who are lost.
00:26:31.42\00:26:32.75
Let me illustrate the point.
00:26:32.79\00:26:34.36
How many of you think that
it would be just on the part of
00:26:34.39\00:26:37.53
God to punish Adolph Hitler,
and a common ordinary sinner
00:26:37.56\00:26:43.83
with the same punishment?
00:26:43.87\00:26:45.70
Would that be justice?
00:26:45.73\00:26:47.20
That would
absolutely not be justice.
00:26:47.24\00:26:49.30
That would be like an individual
who goes before a judge
00:26:49.34\00:26:52.84
because he's gone
through a red light,
00:26:52.87\00:26:54.28
and another individual
goes before the same judge
00:26:54.31\00:26:56.85
because he killed somebody.
00:26:56.88\00:26:58.31
And the judge says,
I condemn both of you
00:26:58.35\00:27:00.48
to the electric chair.
00:27:00.52\00:27:01.85
You know, the punishment
depends upon the works that the
00:27:01.88\00:27:08.42
individual has committed.
00:27:08.46\00:27:10.03
This means that Satan and
his angels, and the wicked
00:27:10.06\00:27:12.56
will suffer
differing lengths of punishment
00:27:12.59\00:27:16.23
according to their sinfulness,
or according to their works.
00:27:16.26\00:27:20.30
Now you say, But
what about forever?
00:27:20.34\00:27:23.84
Doesn't the Bible
say that they're going to
00:27:23.87\00:27:25.37
burn forever and ever?
00:27:25.41\00:27:26.74
Well, we've already noticed
that they've going to be reduced
00:27:26.78\00:27:28.74
to ashes, so they
must not burn forever.
00:27:28.78\00:27:30.85
So what does
forever and ever mean?
00:27:30.88\00:27:34.08
Well, let's read the
text again. Revelation 20:10.
00:27:34.12\00:27:38.42
You say, What part of forever
and ever don't you understand?
00:27:51.73\00:27:54.17
Well, I decided one day
that I would go to the library,
00:27:54.20\00:27:59.54
the theological library at
Andrews University, in Michigan,
00:27:59.57\00:28:02.44
and I would look at what
commentators have to say about
00:28:02.48\00:28:06.01
the words forever.
00:28:06.05\00:28:07.38
In Hebrew the word is olam,
and in Greek the word is aion.
00:28:07.42\00:28:11.65
And so I decided I would
see what the experts in Hebrew
00:28:11.69\00:28:16.32
and Greek had to say
about these words that are
00:28:16.36\00:28:19.36
used: forever and ever.
00:28:19.39\00:28:20.73
And I discovered
something very interesting.
00:28:20.76\00:28:22.46
These scholars say that forever
means a long period of time
00:28:22.50\00:28:28.40
whose end cannot be seen,
but it does not mean that the
00:28:28.44\00:28:32.51
period of time
does not have an end.
00:28:32.54\00:28:34.38
Allow me to read you some
statements from some of these
00:28:34.41\00:28:38.18
scholars so that you see what
the expression forever means.
00:28:38.21\00:28:41.78
And, by the way,
the version in Spanish,
00:28:41.82\00:28:44.85
Version Reina Valera
1960 says, for centuries and
00:28:44.89\00:28:49.69
centuries, actually Por
los siglos de los siglos.
00:28:49.72\00:28:53.03
Literally in Greek it
means for the ages of the ages.
00:28:53.06\00:28:57.37
Now let's read a
statement by Allan MacRae.
00:28:57.40\00:29:01.10
He was president and professor
of Old Testament Theology
00:29:01.14\00:29:04.67
at the Biblical
School of Theology
00:29:04.71\00:29:06.61
in Hatfield, Pennsylvania.
00:29:06.64\00:29:08.04
Notice what he had to say: The
LXX, which is the Septuagint,
00:29:08.08\00:29:12.11
the Greek translation
of the Old Testament.
00:29:12.15\00:29:13.82
The Septuagint
generally translates olam,
00:29:13.85\00:29:17.09
that's the Hebrew word, by
aion, that's the Greek word,
00:29:17.12\00:29:20.42
which has essentially
the same range of meaning.
00:29:20.46\00:29:23.76
He's saying that olam
and aion mean the same thing.
00:29:23.79\00:29:26.90
Now notice this: that neither
the Hebrew, nor the Greek word
00:29:26.93\00:29:32.73
itself contains the
idea of endlessness...
00:29:32.77\00:29:36.40
See neither one of these
words contains the idea of what?
00:29:36.44\00:29:40.04
endlessness... is shown both
by the fact that they sometimes
00:29:40.08\00:29:44.18
refer to events or conditions
that occurred at a definite
00:29:44.21\00:29:47.32
point in the past.
00:29:47.35\00:29:48.68
In other words, they're
not eternal because they
00:29:48.72\00:29:50.55
had a point of beginning, and
also by the fact that sometimes
00:29:50.59\00:29:53.92
it is thought
desirable to repeat the word,
00:29:53.96\00:29:56.22
not merely saying
forever, but forever and ever.
00:29:56.26\00:29:59.73
Also two other
scholars, Multon and Millgan,
00:29:59.76\00:30:03.73
they are experts in Greek.
00:30:03.77\00:30:05.83
Notice what they have to say.
00:30:05.87\00:30:07.27
In general the word, the word
aion, where you get the word
00:30:07.30\00:30:11.27
forever from in the New
Testament, in general the word
00:30:11.31\00:30:15.24
depicts that of which
the horizon is not in view.
00:30:15.28\00:30:19.21
In other words,
the horizon is distant.
00:30:19.25\00:30:21.75
Whether the horizon be
at an infinite distance,
00:30:21.78\00:30:26.05
or whether it lies no further
than the span of Caesar's life.
00:30:26.09\00:30:30.79
In other words, the
word forever is used for the
00:30:30.83\00:30:33.09
span of Caesar's life.
00:30:33.13\00:30:34.46
But it's also used,
especially with regards to God,
00:30:34.50\00:30:38.77
in terms of eternal
distance, that which has no end.
00:30:38.80\00:30:42.00
But it refers to
God, it's not referring to
00:30:42.04\00:30:44.44
corruptible created things.
00:30:44.47\00:30:46.41
One further statement from
Gerhard Kittel, who was the
00:30:46.44\00:30:50.71
editor of the famous theological
wordbook of the Old Testament.
00:30:50.75\00:30:54.35
He had this to say: In the
plural aion, that's the word
00:30:54.38\00:30:59.25
forever, the aion formula,
the meaning of aion merges into
00:30:59.29\00:31:05.13
that of a long but
limited stretch of time.
00:31:05.16\00:31:09.10
So notice the word
means a long but what?
00:31:09.13\00:31:11.47
limited stretch of time.
00:31:11.50\00:31:13.30
In particular aion, that's
the word forever, in this sense
00:31:13.34\00:31:18.01
signifies the time of
duration of the world.
00:31:18.04\00:31:20.88
So the word forever
can mean the period of
00:31:20.91\00:31:22.68
duration of this world.
00:31:22.71\00:31:24.05
That is to say time as limited
by creation and conclusion.
00:31:24.08\00:31:30.25
So the word forever can
mean the time between creation
00:31:30.29\00:31:32.65
and the conclusion.
00:31:32.69\00:31:34.02
He continues saying, At this
point we are confronted by the
00:31:34.06\00:31:37.73
remarkable fact that in
the Bible the same word, aion,
00:31:37.76\00:31:42.43
is used to indicate
two things which are
00:31:42.46\00:31:45.90
profoundly antithetical,
namely the eternity of God...
00:31:45.93\00:31:50.71
See, from God's perspective,
the eternity of God,
00:31:50.74\00:31:54.08
and the duration of the world.
00:31:54.11\00:31:56.31
Now is the duration of
the world limited? Yes.
00:31:56.34\00:32:00.08
Is the eternity of God something
that has no beginning or end?
00:32:00.12\00:32:03.85
Yes, but the same
word is used for both.
00:32:03.89\00:32:07.99
Now what does this mean?
00:32:08.02\00:32:10.46
It means that when the word
aion is used with reference to
00:32:10.49\00:32:14.43
God, it means everlasting.
00:32:14.46\00:32:16.93
But when it's used with
reference to created things,
00:32:16.97\00:32:20.17
it means a long,
indefinite period that
00:32:20.20\00:32:23.24
definitely has an end.
00:32:23.27\00:32:25.07
He continues
saying: This two-fold sense,
00:32:25.11\00:32:27.81
which aion shares
with the Hebrew olam...
00:32:27.84\00:32:31.01
See both the Old
Testament and New Testament
00:32:31.05\00:32:32.81
words share this idea.
00:32:32.85\00:32:34.58
...points back to a concept to
an eternity in which eternity is
00:32:34.62\00:32:39.69
identified with the
duration of the world.
00:32:39.72\00:32:42.22
So how long is eternity?
the duration of the world,
00:32:42.26\00:32:45.86
says this scholar.
00:32:45.89\00:32:47.23
Now the question is, Is
Satan going to burn out?
00:32:47.26\00:32:50.37
He's obviously going to
burn a long period of time,
00:32:50.40\00:32:53.44
because the expression,
forever is used with regards
00:32:53.47\00:32:56.64
to his destruction.
00:32:56.67\00:32:58.01
It doesn't mean that he's
going to exist forever and ever,
00:32:58.04\00:33:00.78
and ever throughout eternity,
and he's going to burn forever,
00:33:00.81\00:33:03.24
and he's never going to go out.
00:33:03.28\00:33:04.68
It means that he's going to
burn for a long period of time;
00:33:04.71\00:33:08.25
whose end cannot be
discerned or cannot be seen.
00:33:08.28\00:33:11.72
As it says in
the Spanish version,
00:33:11.75\00:33:13.46
Por los siglos de los siglos.
00:33:13.49\00:33:15.56
Now do you know that the Bible
says that Satan is going to be
00:33:15.59\00:33:20.00
reduced to ashes
as well as the wicked?
00:33:20.03\00:33:22.26
Go with me to Ezekiel
28:18, 19, Ezekiel 28:18, 19.
00:33:22.30\00:33:30.41
Here is a prophecy speaking
about this covering cherub
00:33:30.44\00:33:35.68
who was beautiful.
00:33:35.71\00:33:37.05
It says, You defiled your
sanctuaries by the multitude
00:33:37.08\00:33:39.91
of your iniquities, by
the iniquity of your trading;
00:33:39.95\00:33:44.39
therefore I brought
fire from your midst.
00:33:44.42\00:33:47.99
It what? What's the next word?
00:33:48.02\00:33:51.53
It devoured you, and
it turned you to ashes.
00:33:51.56\00:33:58.33
Is the Devil going to
be reduced to ashes? Yes.
00:33:58.37\00:34:01.57
So is he going to
burn out? Absolutely.
00:34:01.60\00:34:05.14
So it says: I turned
you to ashes upon the earth
00:34:05.17\00:34:09.54
in the sight of all who saw you.
00:34:09.58\00:34:11.75
All who knew you among the
peoples are astonished at you:
00:34:11.78\00:34:15.65
you have become a horror,
and shall be no more forever.
00:34:15.68\00:34:23.02
In what sense is the fire
everlasting? in the sense that
00:34:23.06\00:34:28.66
the glory of God is
everlasting that destroys Satan.
00:34:28.70\00:34:32.63
But also the fire
will destroy Satan,
00:34:32.67\00:34:35.74
and he will never exist forever.
00:34:35.77\00:34:37.74
Are you understanding?
00:34:37.77\00:34:39.11
In other words the fire
produces everlasting results.
00:34:39.14\00:34:42.91
But even after Satan goes out,
God will still have His glory,
00:34:42.94\00:34:46.68
He is still the
consuming, everlasting fire.
00:34:46.72\00:34:49.88
We've already read
that God is going to
00:34:51.85\00:34:54.56
eradicate root and branch.
00:34:54.59\00:34:57.96
Let's read that again.
00:34:57.99\00:34:59.33
Malachi 4:1, 3. For,
behold, the day is coming,
00:34:59.36\00:35:04.27
burning like an oven;
and all the proud, yes,
00:35:04.30\00:35:06.74
all who do wickedly will be
stubble: and the day which is
00:35:06.77\00:35:09.77
coming shall burn them
up, says the Lord of hosts,
00:35:09.80\00:35:12.67
that will leave them
neither root nor branch.
00:35:12.71\00:35:16.04
Root is the Devil and the
branches are his followers.
00:35:16.08\00:35:18.18
Verse 3. You shall trample the
wicked; for they shall be ashes
00:35:18.21\00:35:23.32
under the soles of your
feet on the day that I do this,
00:35:23.35\00:35:27.76
says the Lord of hosts.
00:35:27.79\00:35:30.16
But now I'm sure that you're
wondering how long the Devil
00:35:30.19\00:35:35.36
and his angels are
going to be burning.
00:35:35.40\00:35:37.37
How long are the wicked, who
will drink the cup of the wine
00:35:37.40\00:35:41.60
of the wrath of God,
without mixture of mercy,
00:35:41.64\00:35:44.21
how long are they going to be
burning in the fire before they
00:35:44.24\00:35:47.84
actually burn out
and cease to exist?
00:35:47.88\00:35:50.91
The answer to this question,
particularly with regards to the
00:35:50.95\00:35:56.22
Devil, is found in an ancient
ceremonial that God established
00:35:56.25\00:36:01.59
in the Hebrew
religious system, in the day of
00:36:01.62\00:36:05.83
atonement ceremony.
00:36:05.86\00:36:07.86
Go with me to
Leviticus 16, Leviticus 16:7.
00:36:07.90\00:36:14.24
And you remember in our
last lecture asked the question,
00:36:14.27\00:36:16.54
Did Jesus suffer
the second death?
00:36:16.57\00:36:18.97
We said that the second death
is death from which there is no
00:36:21.18\00:36:24.51
what? no resurrection.
00:36:24.55\00:36:26.78
Did Jesus resurrect?
00:36:26.82\00:36:28.15
So did He suffer
the second death? No.
00:36:29.25\00:36:32.22
And let me say it this
way, Jesus suffered the
00:36:32.25\00:36:36.36
experience of second death.
00:36:36.39\00:36:38.09
He felt like the wicked
will feel outside the holy city
00:36:38.13\00:36:41.60
when they realize that their
life is going to be snuffed out
00:36:41.63\00:36:44.03
forever, and they will
forever cease to exist.
00:36:44.07\00:36:47.14
Jesus felt the anguish
of separation from God,
00:36:47.17\00:36:50.71
the anguish of knowing that
His life was coming to an end.
00:36:50.74\00:36:55.21
In fact, in Desire of Ages, that
magnificent book, it says that
00:36:55.24\00:36:58.75
He could not see beyond
the portals of the tomb.
00:36:58.78\00:37:01.48
He thought that sin was so great
and so offensive to His Father
00:37:01.52\00:37:07.29
that the separation from
His Father would be eternal.
00:37:07.32\00:37:10.13
In other words, Jesus
felt the anguish of everlasting
00:37:10.16\00:37:13.66
separation from God.
00:37:13.70\00:37:15.03
But the sins that
He bore were not His.
00:37:15.06\00:37:18.43
The sins that He bore
were the sins of the world.
00:37:18.47\00:37:22.34
So you say, If He didn't suffer
second death, then sin wasn't
00:37:24.24\00:37:28.04
paid for, because the wages
of sin is death, second death.
00:37:28.08\00:37:31.35
Well, here's where the
ceremonial of the day of
00:37:31.38\00:37:34.15
atonement comes in.
00:37:34.18\00:37:35.58
Leviticus 16:7. It's
speaking about two goats.
00:37:35.62\00:37:41.02
They were chosen on
the day of atonement.
00:37:41.06\00:37:42.42
And it says, He shall take
the two goats and present them
00:37:42.46\00:37:46.80
before the Lord at the door
of the tabernacle of meetings.
00:37:46.83\00:37:51.40
So two goats were chosen.
00:37:51.43\00:37:52.77
One goat was for the Lord, and
the other goat was for Azazel.
00:37:52.80\00:37:59.04
Now let me say that in Hebrew
thinking, in Jewish thinking,
00:37:59.07\00:38:03.31
in fact if you go to the
apocryphal book of Enoch,
00:38:03.35\00:38:05.85
you'll find that the
Jews believed that Azazel
00:38:05.88\00:38:10.62
was the prince of demons.
00:38:10.65\00:38:12.82
They believed that
Azazel was the Devil himself.
00:38:12.85\00:38:16.26
And now I want you to
notice Leviticus 16:20-22.
00:38:16.29\00:38:21.00
But before I read these verses,
let me ask you this question:
00:38:21.03\00:38:23.67
What happened in the daily
ceremonial in the sanctuary?
00:38:23.70\00:38:26.63
An animal was sacrificed.
00:38:29.77\00:38:31.71
What happened with the blood?
00:38:31.74\00:38:33.07
The blood was
taken into the sanctuary,
00:38:33.11\00:38:36.48
and sin was transferred from
the sinner, who put his hand
00:38:36.51\00:38:39.85
on the head of the animal,
and then the animal was slain.
00:38:39.88\00:38:43.25
And then through the blood
the sin was transferred where?
00:38:43.28\00:38:46.62
into the sanctuary.
00:38:46.65\00:38:47.99
So let me ask you, Were those
sins that were transferred into
00:38:48.02\00:38:51.13
the sanctuary
forgiven sins? Yeh.
00:38:51.16\00:38:54.93
The sins that Jesus
transfers to the sanctuary
00:38:54.96\00:38:57.47
are forgiven sins.
00:38:57.50\00:38:58.83
Isn't that comforting news?
00:38:58.87\00:39:00.64
You know, He's not registering
those things up there
00:39:00.67\00:39:04.04
to hold them against you.
00:39:04.07\00:39:05.41
What God is doing is
He's introducing sin into the
00:39:05.44\00:39:09.04
sanctuary covered by
the blood of the sacrifice;
00:39:09.08\00:39:13.05
covered by the blood of Jesus.
00:39:13.08\00:39:14.58
In other words, forgiven sins
are placed in the sanctuary.
00:39:14.62\00:39:17.85
And what did that
do with the sanctuary?
00:39:17.89\00:39:19.25
It contaminated the sanctuary.
00:39:19.29\00:39:21.96
It defiled the sanctuary.
00:39:21.99\00:39:23.39
If you don't believe
it read Hebrews 9:23.
00:39:23.43\00:39:26.16
It says that the heavenly
things had to be cleansed.
00:39:26.19\00:39:29.30
Daniel 8:14 says, Unto
2300 days and the sanctuary
00:39:29.33\00:39:34.07
shall be cleansed.
00:39:34.14\00:39:35.47
In other words, all of the sins
that went into the sanctuary,
00:39:35.50\00:39:39.01
through the blood, eventually
those sins had to be cleansed
00:39:39.04\00:39:41.74
from the sanctuary.
00:39:41.78\00:39:43.11
Notice Leviticus 16:20-22.
00:39:43.14\00:39:46.92
This is what happened
on the day of atonement.
00:39:46.95\00:39:48.68
And this is a
very important point.
00:39:48.72\00:39:51.59
And when He has made an end
of atoning for the holy place,
00:39:51.62\00:39:55.56
that is atoning
for the sanctuary.
00:39:55.59\00:39:57.03
Let me ask you, the
scapegoat ceremony...
00:39:57.66\00:39:59.36
Did that take place after
the sanctuary had been cleansed,
00:39:59.39\00:40:02.83
or did it take place before
the sanctuary was cleansed?
00:40:02.86\00:40:06.07
After the
sanctuary was cleansed.
00:40:06.10\00:40:09.10
After the first goat had
been sacrificed and died.
00:40:09.14\00:40:11.84
The first goat represents
the sacrifice of Jesus.
00:40:11.87\00:40:14.01
In other words, after the first
goat was sacrificed for the sins
00:40:14.04\00:40:16.81
of the people, the high
priest cleansed the sanctuary,
00:40:16.85\00:40:20.92
and then he came to the
second goat. So it says:
00:40:20.95\00:40:24.32
The what kind of
goat? the live goat.
00:40:33.06\00:40:35.76
So whatever is
done with this goat,
00:40:35.80\00:40:37.40
this goat is not dying for sin.
00:40:37.43\00:40:39.83
This goat is what? alive.
00:40:39.87\00:40:42.44
And without shedding of blood
there is no remission of sin.
00:40:42.47\00:40:46.27
Verse 21.
00:40:46.31\00:40:47.64
Which, let me ask
you, which iniquities,
00:41:05.66\00:41:09.13
which transgressions and
which sins was he placing on the
00:41:09.16\00:41:11.93
head of the scapegoat?
00:41:11.97\00:41:13.30
All of those that he
was bringing from where?
00:41:13.34\00:41:16.77
From the sanctuary that had
been deposited there all year.
00:41:16.81\00:41:19.97
And by putting his
hands on the head of the goat,
00:41:20.01\00:41:22.81
and confessing the sins
on the head of the goat,
00:41:22.84\00:41:25.15
what is he doing? He's
transferring the sins to Azazel,
00:41:25.18\00:41:29.68
the live scapegoat. And it says:
00:41:29.72\00:41:33.86
So where was he sent?
into the wilderness. Notice:
00:41:44.33\00:41:46.97
And there was a special
person chosen to take him
00:41:50.34\00:41:52.77
to the wilderness.
00:41:52.81\00:41:54.14
A wilderness and a
what? uninhabited land.
00:42:02.98\00:42:06.15
In other words, a place
where there was no one living.
00:42:06.19\00:42:08.72
Now let me ask you, What
happened with the sins of those
00:42:14.40\00:42:19.23
who had not placed
their sins in the sanctuary?
00:42:19.27\00:42:21.54
those who had not
actually repented of sin
00:42:21.57\00:42:24.47
and confessed their sins?
00:42:24.51\00:42:25.84
Were all of those sins placed
on the head of the scapegoat?
00:42:25.87\00:42:28.64
No. Notice
Leviticus 23, Leviticus 23.
00:42:29.38\00:42:33.01
Those who did not claim...
00:42:33.05\00:42:34.98
Listen to this.
This is important.
00:42:35.02\00:42:36.48
Those who did not claim
the blood of the Lord's goat;
00:42:36.52\00:42:40.22
those who did not
confess sin, and repent of sin,
00:42:40.26\00:42:45.33
and have their sin go into the
sanctuary covered by the blood,
00:42:45.36\00:42:48.86
those individuals suffered
the penalty for their own sins.
00:42:48.90\00:42:53.23
Their sins were not placed
on the head of the scapegoat.
00:42:53.27\00:42:55.87
In other words, they
died for their own sins.
00:42:55.90\00:42:58.97
Notice Leviticus 23:29, 30,
where it says this very clearly.
00:42:59.01\00:43:04.41
For any person who is
not afflicted in soul,
00:43:04.45\00:43:09.68
on that same day shall
be cut off from his people.
00:43:09.72\00:43:14.79
And any person who does
any work on that same day,
00:43:14.82\00:43:19.46
that person I will what?
destroy from among his people.
00:43:19.49\00:43:25.60
So it was only all of the sins
that entered into the sanctuary
00:43:25.63\00:43:30.47
through the blood, sins
that people had repented of
00:43:30.51\00:43:34.71
and confessed, that were placed
upon the head of the scapegoat.
00:43:34.74\00:43:39.31
And then the scapegoat was
sent out into the wilderness
00:43:39.35\00:43:42.95
to a non-inhabited land.
00:43:42.98\00:43:44.79
What was God trying
to teach through this?
00:43:44.82\00:43:48.82
I want to read a couple
of statements from a woman
00:43:48.86\00:43:55.16
who wrote some amazing things.
00:43:55.20\00:43:59.13
Her name is Ellen White.
00:43:59.17\00:44:01.80
You say, Why are you
reading from Ellen White?
00:44:01.84\00:44:04.74
Well, I'm going to read her
statements, and I'm going to
00:44:04.77\00:44:07.44
tell you where in the
Bible is found what she says.
00:44:07.48\00:44:10.61
Because she definitely
knows what she's talking about,
00:44:10.65\00:44:13.85
and she has the
backing of Scripture to explain
00:44:13.88\00:44:16.72
this specific point.
00:44:16.75\00:44:18.09
The first statement is found
in Early Writings, page 290.
00:44:18.12\00:44:22.52
This is something that she wrote
very early in her ministry.
00:44:22.56\00:44:25.56
She says this: Then I saw
thrones, and Jesus and the
00:44:25.59\00:44:31.97
redeemed saints sat upon them.
00:44:32.00\00:44:34.34
And the saints reigned as
kings and priests unto God.
00:44:34.37\00:44:38.67
Let me ask you, Where
is that found in the Bible?
00:44:38.71\00:44:40.44
Revelation 20:4. During the
millennium God's people will
00:44:40.48\00:44:45.51
reign as kings and
priests with Christ.
00:44:45.55\00:44:48.42
And the Bible says that
judgment was given to them.
00:44:48.45\00:44:52.09
Notice what it continues saying.
00:44:52.12\00:44:53.62
Christ, in union with His
people, judged the wicked dead.
00:44:53.66\00:44:57.93
Is that Biblical?
Judgment was committed to them,
00:44:57.96\00:45:01.76
it says in Revelation 20:4,
comparing their acts with the
00:45:01.80\00:45:05.97
statute book, the Word of
God, and deciding every case
00:45:06.00\00:45:10.44
according to the
deeds done in the body.
00:45:10.47\00:45:12.41
Is that Biblical? Yes.
00:45:12.44\00:45:15.04
Revelation 20:11, 12
says that they will be judged
00:45:15.08\00:45:18.31
according to their works.
00:45:18.35\00:45:19.75
Now notice, Then they meted
out to the wicked the portion
00:45:19.78\00:45:27.72
which they must suffer
according to their works.
00:45:27.76\00:45:31.03
Is that Biblical? If you
read 1 Corinthians 6:2, 3,
00:45:31.06\00:45:37.63
which we're not going to
take the time to read, it says,
00:45:37.67\00:45:39.93
Do you not know that the
saints will judge the world?
00:45:39.97\00:45:44.21
It even says, Do you
not know that the saints
00:45:44.24\00:45:47.18
will judge angels?
00:45:47.21\00:45:48.54
It has to be the wicked
angels, because righteous
00:45:48.58\00:45:51.95
angels need no judgment.
00:45:51.98\00:45:53.31
And so she says, Once again,
then they meted out to the
00:45:53.35\00:46:00.49
wicked the portion
which they must suffer
00:46:00.52\00:46:02.06
according to their works.
00:46:02.09\00:46:03.53
And it was written against their
names in the book of death.
00:46:03.56\00:46:06.56
Satan and his angels were
judged by Jesus and the saints.
00:46:06.59\00:46:10.47
That's Biblical: 2
Corinthians 6:2, 3.
00:46:10.50\00:46:14.77
Now listen to this: Satan's
punishment was to be far greater
00:46:14.80\00:46:20.74
than that of those
whom he had deceived.
00:46:20.78\00:46:24.38
Is that just? Is
that justice? Absolutely.
00:46:24.41\00:46:28.75
It says, It was
going to be far greater.
00:46:28.78\00:46:32.42
Now what does that mean?
in intensity or in length?
00:46:32.45\00:46:34.86
Let's continue reading.
00:46:34.89\00:46:36.22
Satan's punishment was to be
far greater than that of those
00:46:36.26\00:46:41.23
whom he had deceived.
00:46:41.26\00:46:42.60
His suffering would so far
exceed theirs as to bear no
00:46:42.63\00:46:49.60
comparison with it.
00:46:49.64\00:46:50.97
That seems to give the
impression that he might be
00:46:53.21\00:46:55.14
even suffering for centuries.
00:46:55.18\00:46:56.54
Now I'm not putting
any time period on it,
00:46:56.58\00:47:01.25
but she says that his
punishment would far exceed
00:47:01.28\00:47:05.59
theirs, as to bear
no comparison with it.
00:47:05.62\00:47:08.56
Does the Bible say that the
Devil is going to suffer for
00:47:08.59\00:47:12.23
a very long
period? forever and ever?
00:47:12.26\00:47:14.10
Yes, that means an
extremely long period of time,
00:47:14.13\00:47:16.67
whose end is not in view.
00:47:16.70\00:47:18.30
And then she continues saying,
After all those whom he had
00:47:18.33\00:47:23.14
deceived had perished,
Satan was still to live
00:47:23.17\00:47:28.14
and suffer on much longer.
00:47:28.18\00:47:31.31
You say, Why is that?
00:47:31.35\00:47:32.68
Why would that happen?
00:47:32.71\00:47:34.05
You know, that's, some people
say, Oh, that's terrible that
00:47:34.08\00:47:36.65
God would do that to the Devil
for such a long period of time.
00:47:36.69\00:47:39.05
Let me tell you what, it's much
better than believing that God
00:47:39.09\00:47:41.72
is going to cast the Devil, and
all of the wicked, in the fires
00:47:41.76\00:47:44.43
of hell, and they're
going to burn forever.
00:47:44.46\00:47:46.09
That's not justice.
00:47:46.13\00:47:49.13
Justice would be
that each one is punished
00:47:49.16\00:47:52.63
according to his what?
according to his works.
00:47:52.67\00:47:55.44
Is the Devil more guilty? Yes.
00:47:55.47\00:47:57.41
He's the originator, and
he's the instigator of sin.
00:47:57.44\00:48:00.78
Now there's another statement.
00:48:00.81\00:48:02.21
This is an amazing statement
that's found in Early Writings,
00:48:02.24\00:48:05.75
pages 293 and 294.
00:48:05.78\00:48:07.92
She says this: I saw that
some were quickly destroyed.
00:48:07.95\00:48:13.56
Who would be the ones
that are quickly destroyed?
00:48:13.59\00:48:15.82
Those who led sinful lives,
but, you know, they were not
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sinners in the sense of Adolph
Hitler, or Sadaam Hussein,
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or any of these dictators
that have the blood probably of
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hundreds of
thousands on their hands.
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She says, I saw that
some were quickly destroyed
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while others suffered longer.
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They were punished according
to their deeds done in the body.
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That's Biblical. Some
were many days consuming.
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Notice some of the wicked were
many what? many days consuming.
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And just as long as there was
a portion of them unconsumed,
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all the sense of
suffering remained.
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Let me ask you, Is
this going to be torment?
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The Bible says that they would
be tormented. Yes, absolutely.
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For a very
extremely long period of time
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there's going to be torment.
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Don't think that
it's not going to exist.
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The torment is not going to be,
I don't think primarily the pain
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and the anguish of the fire,
it's going to be the anguish of
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knowing that their life
is going to be snuffed out,
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and they're never going
to be able to live again
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in the presence of God.
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And so it says, Some
were many days consuming.
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And just as long as there was
a portion of them unconsumed,
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all the sense of
suffering remained.
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Said the angel, The
worm of life shall not die.
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Their fire shall not be quenched
as long as there is the least
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particle for it to prey upon.
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And now notice this: Satan
and his angels suffered long.
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And why did they suffer long?
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Why do they suffer
much longer than the wicked?
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Why is it described as
forever and ever, which means an
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extremely long period of time?
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You know, the existence of the
world, like we've noticed from
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some of those scholars, is used,
the word forever to describe
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the time span of the
existence of the world.
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Notice, Satan and
his angels suffered long.
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Satan bore not only the weight
and punishment of his own sins,
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but also of the sins
of the redeemed hosts,
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which had been placed upon him.
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Is that Biblical? Where is that?
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In Leviticus 16. All of the
confessed sins that went into
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the sanctuary were the ones
that were brought out and placed
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on the head of the scapegoat.
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By the way, where
is this fulfilled?
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It's fulfilled in Revelation 20,
when a powerful angel descends
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from heaven; that's the
fit man of Leviticus 16.
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And the Devil is exiled in
a world that is a wilderness,
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in a world where all
of the wicked have died;
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a non-inhabited land.
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This happens during the thousand
years, during the millennium.
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And then, of course, he's
destroyed after the millennium.
00:50:54.32\00:50:56.82
And so it says, Satan
and his angels suffered long.
00:50:56.85\00:50:59.12
Satan bore not only the weight
and punishment of his own sins,
00:50:59.15\00:51:02.46
but also of the sins
of the redeemed host,
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which have been placed upon him.
00:51:05.03\00:51:07.16
And he must also
suffer for the ruin of souls
00:51:07.20\00:51:10.20
which he had caused.
00:51:10.23\00:51:11.70
Then I saw... Now
here's the good news.
00:51:11.73\00:51:14.40
This is different than
what most Christians believe.
00:51:14.44\00:51:17.01
Most Christians believe that God
is going to put the Devil in the
00:51:17.04\00:51:19.77
fires of hell and
he's never going to go out,
00:51:19.81\00:51:21.48
and the same with the wicked.
00:51:21.51\00:51:22.84
But God is a just God.
00:51:22.88\00:51:24.55
Then I saw that Satan and all
the wicked host were consumed,
00:51:24.58\00:51:29.08
and the justice
of God was satisfied.
00:51:29.12\00:51:32.55
What is this about?
00:51:32.59\00:51:33.92
Is God wanting to
torture the wicked? No.
00:51:33.96\00:51:36.46
This is about meeting out what?
the punishment that they deserve
00:51:36.49\00:51:41.36
according to their works.
00:51:41.40\00:51:42.73
It has to do with God's justice.
00:51:42.76\00:51:44.73
And remember, at this
time there's no mercy.
00:51:44.77\00:51:46.70
Because the door
of mercy is closed.
00:51:46.74\00:51:48.70
This is the unmixed
wrath of God, according to what
00:51:48.74\00:51:52.27
the third angel says.
00:51:52.31\00:51:53.64
Then I saw that Satan and all
the wicked host were consumed,
00:51:53.68\00:51:56.41
and the justice
of God was satisfied.
00:51:56.44\00:51:59.08
And all the angelic host,
and all the redeemed saints,
00:51:59.11\00:52:02.42
with a loud voice said, Amen!
00:52:02.45\00:52:05.49
Said the angel,
Satan is the root.
00:52:05.52\00:52:08.22
His children are the branches.
00:52:08.26\00:52:09.86
Is that Biblical? Absolutely.
00:52:09.89\00:52:11.89
They are now
consumed root and branch.
00:52:11.93\00:52:15.56
They have died a
what? an everlasting death.
00:52:15.60\00:52:19.27
Is the fire still
burning at this point?
00:52:19.30\00:52:22.80
See, that was a tricky question.
00:52:22.84\00:52:24.84
The fire is still burning
because the fire is whom? God.
00:52:24.87\00:52:28.84
But are the wicked
still burning? Absolutely not.
00:52:28.88\00:52:32.38
Said the angel,
Satan is the root.
00:52:32.41\00:52:34.28
His children are the branches.
00:52:34.32\00:52:35.68
They are now
consumed root and branch.
00:52:35.72\00:52:38.02
They have died an
everlasting death.
00:52:38.05\00:52:41.29
They are never to have
a what? a resurrection.
00:52:41.32\00:52:45.26
And God will
have a clean universe.
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Is that a beautiful way
of looking at it? Absolutely.
00:52:49.53\00:52:54.07
You say, Well, isn't
that mean for God to do this?
00:52:54.10\00:52:56.27
Let me ask you, Did Jesus drink
the cup of the wine of God's
00:52:56.30\00:53:01.44
wrath for every
single one of these persons?
00:53:01.48\00:53:04.18
He most certainly did.
00:53:04.21\00:53:05.91
But you see, if you don't accept
Jesus Christ as your Savior,
00:53:05.95\00:53:09.98
if you accept the antichrist
instead of the Christ,
00:53:10.02\00:53:13.15
you must drink the
cup of the wrath of God.
00:53:13.19\00:53:16.62
Because you did not receive
the gift that Jesus bought
00:53:16.66\00:53:19.89
by drinking the
cup of God's wrath.
00:53:19.93\00:53:21.96
Are you understanding
the third angel's message?
00:53:22.00\00:53:23.97
It's a matter of
life and death folks.
00:53:24.00\00:53:26.97
The third angel's
message is a dire warning,
00:53:27.00\00:53:29.24
because God doesn't want anyone
to worship the antichrist,
00:53:29.27\00:53:32.21
or his image, or to receive
the mark of the antichrist.
00:53:32.24\00:53:36.04
By the way, this destruction
is called in the Bible
00:53:36.08\00:53:39.15
God's strange act.
00:53:39.18\00:53:41.18
Because God is a Creator;
God is is not a destroyer.
00:53:41.22\00:53:43.95
Notice Isaiah 28:21.
00:53:43.99\00:53:47.19
The King James Version
says, His strange work.
00:53:59.23\00:54:02.70
So it's unusual and
strange for God to destroy.
00:54:07.74\00:54:11.61
But justice requires that
He destroy because these people
00:54:11.65\00:54:15.48
slighted and
rejected the mercy of God.
00:54:15.52\00:54:18.82
So the Bible says in Revelation
20:7-10 that fire will
00:54:18.85\00:54:24.66
descend from heaven.
00:54:24.69\00:54:26.03
And the fire
will devour the Devil,
00:54:26.06\00:54:27.86
and his angels, and the wicked.
00:54:27.90\00:54:29.46
They will suffer
differing lengths of punishment,
00:54:29.50\00:54:32.13
but eventually
they will all go out.
00:54:32.17\00:54:35.00
Now let me ask you,
Where are they punished?
00:54:35.04\00:54:36.71
Are they punished in some corner
in the Universe somewhere? No.
00:54:36.74\00:54:40.41
It says that they
gathered around the city on the
00:54:40.44\00:54:43.08
breadth of the earth,
and fire fell from heaven.
00:54:43.11\00:54:46.28
So let me ask you, Where do
they receive their punishment?
00:54:46.31\00:54:49.08
They receive their
punishment on the earth.
00:54:49.12\00:54:51.59
Can the fire be everlasting?
in terms of them being
00:54:51.62\00:54:55.96
burned everlasting?
00:54:55.99\00:54:57.33
No, it can't
be. Do you know why?
00:54:57.36\00:54:58.89
Because the Bible says
that God will make a new
00:54:58.93\00:55:00.76
heaven and a new earth.
00:55:00.80\00:55:02.13
How can He make a new earth if
the wicked are being consumed,
00:55:02.16\00:55:05.93
and being burned
forever and ever on the earth
00:55:05.97\00:55:08.77
around the holy city?
00:55:08.80\00:55:10.14
I'd like to end by reading a
statement that we find in that
00:55:10.17\00:55:13.98
majestic book, The Desire
of Ages, 107 and 108. It says:
00:55:14.01\00:55:18.05
To sin wherever found
our God is a consuming fire.
00:55:18.08\00:55:23.89
In all who submit to
His power, the Spirit of
00:55:23.92\00:55:28.52
God will consume sin.
00:55:28.56\00:55:29.89
See, that's what
God wants to do now.
00:55:29.92\00:55:31.49
Through the fire of the Holy
Spirit He wants to consume sin.
00:55:31.53\00:55:34.70
But if men cling to sin
they become identified with it.
00:55:34.73\00:55:38.90
Is this true of the wicked that
they become identified with sin?
00:55:38.93\00:55:41.64
They personify
sin just like Satan.
00:55:41.67\00:55:44.91
She says, Then the what? the
glory of God, that's the fire,
00:55:44.94\00:55:49.78
the glory of God which
destroys sin must destroy them.
00:55:49.81\00:55:53.75
Jacob, after his night
of wrestling with the angel
00:55:53.78\00:55:57.69
exclaimed, I have
seen God face to face,
00:55:57.72\00:56:00.42
and my life is preserved.
00:56:00.46\00:56:01.79
Why was he able to
see God face to face?
00:56:01.82\00:56:04.19
Notice, Jacob had
been guilty of a great sin
00:56:04.23\00:56:07.80
in his conduct toward
Esau, but he had repented.
00:56:07.83\00:56:11.33
His transgression had been what?
forgiven, and his sin purged.
00:56:11.37\00:56:16.50
Therefore he could endure the
revelation of God's presence.
00:56:16.54\00:56:21.61
But wherever men came before God
while willfully cherishing evil,
00:56:21.64\00:56:27.05
they were destroyed.
00:56:27.08\00:56:28.42
At the second advent of Christ
the wicked shall be consumed
00:56:28.45\00:56:31.49
with the spirit of His
mouth, and destroyed with the
00:56:31.55\00:56:34.02
brightness of His coming.
00:56:34.06\00:56:35.52
And now notice this: The
light of the glory of God...
00:56:35.56\00:56:40.10
This is what the fire is.
00:56:40.16\00:56:41.50
The light of the glory of
God, which imparts life to the
00:56:41.53\00:56:45.27
righteous will slay the wicked.
00:56:45.30\00:56:49.07
Did you understand
what we studied tonight?
00:56:49.10\00:56:51.24
Isn't it simple? People
make things so complicated.
00:56:51.27\00:56:56.48
So there is a certain sense in
which the fire is everlasting.
00:56:56.51\00:57:00.82
Because God's glory
is the everlasting fire.
00:57:00.85\00:57:04.32
But there's another sense in
which the results that the fire
00:57:04.35\00:57:07.72
produces are not everlasting.
00:57:07.79\00:57:10.93
Because the things that are
burned up by the everlasting
00:57:10.96\00:57:14.03
fire cease to exist.
00:57:14.06\00:57:15.76
They're reduced to ashes.
00:57:15.83\00:57:17.17
I pray to God that we
will follow the Christ,
00:57:17.20\00:57:19.93
and not the antichrist; that
we will have Jesus drink the cup
00:57:19.97\00:57:24.14
instead of us
having to drink it.
00:57:24.17\00:57:26.04