Welcome back to 3ABN Fall Camp Meeting. 00:00:50.18\00:00:53.08 Thank you for joining us. If you're just now joining us, 00:00:53.28\00:00:56.28 we had a great first hour. 00:00:56.48\00:00:57.99 A lot of testimony... lots of music. 00:00:58.19\00:01:00.09 But we're here, and we're going to have a panel. 00:01:00.29\00:01:02.12 I'm here with Dr. Yvonne Lewis. Hey! 00:01:02.32\00:01:04.43 And we're going to have a discussion, right? We are! 00:01:04.63\00:01:07.13 Sounds great. We've got a lot of questions 00:01:07.33\00:01:08.90 that folk in the audience have been writing and asking. 00:01:09.10\00:01:13.13 And this is... these folk don't know what they are. 00:01:13.34\00:01:16.94 We haven't discussed them 00:01:17.14\00:01:18.47 so you all are on the hot seats tonight. 00:01:18.51\00:01:20.18 Pastor Johnny Dinzey, Pastor C.A. Murray, 00:01:20.58\00:01:23.38 Shelley Quinn, Pastor Kenny Shelton, 00:01:23.58\00:01:25.71 Pastor John Lomacang. 00:01:25.91\00:01:27.38 So we're glad that you all are here. 00:01:27.68\00:01:29.25 Thank you for what you do for the cause of God. 00:01:29.45\00:01:31.15 And for all of you: thank you for some of the questions. 00:01:31.45\00:01:33.82 So... when I travel to churches, 00:01:34.22\00:01:37.66 and I know you do too... and you guys saw it especially 00:01:37.86\00:01:39.86 in London, people ask all sorts of questions. 00:01:40.06\00:01:43.47 And there is such a misunderstanding or maybe 00:01:43.97\00:01:47.00 a lack of knowledge... even among a lot of Christian folk. 00:01:47.20\00:01:50.54 And I'm always amazed. I'm so thankful 00:01:50.74\00:01:53.27 SDA Christians are people of the Word. 00:01:53.48\00:01:55.78 We study the Bible and we take the Bible... 00:01:55.98\00:01:58.21 and I'm sure a lot of other folks do, too... 00:01:58.41\00:02:00.48 but I'm amazed at how many people don't really know 00:02:00.88\00:02:03.69 as was said over here by somebody: "Now we know 00:02:03.89\00:02:06.25 what we believe. We didn't really know 00:02:06.45\00:02:08.42 why we believe what we believe. " 00:02:08.62\00:02:10.39 That's right. So studying the Bible is always good. 00:02:10.69\00:02:12.53 So Yvonne, let's start out with you. OK. 00:02:12.73\00:02:14.66 In fact, before we do this let's have a word of prayer. 00:02:14.86\00:02:16.77 Bro. Kenny, would you say a word of prayer for us? 00:02:16.97\00:02:19.27 Loving Father in heaven, what a privilege it is 00:02:20.64\00:02:22.90 to be part of the family of God. We thank you that we can 00:02:23.10\00:02:25.37 call upon You in our time of need. You promised to hear 00:02:25.57\00:02:28.34 and You promised to answer. We pray that Your Holy Spirit 00:02:28.54\00:02:31.41 will draw near to each of our hearts and our lives. 00:02:31.61\00:02:33.68 We pray as the questions are presented that the Holy Spirit 00:02:33.88\00:02:36.95 will give the right answer to each one. 00:02:37.15\00:02:38.99 That we may be able to under- stand it, apply it to our hearts 00:02:39.19\00:02:41.62 and our life that it may become a part of us. 00:02:41.82\00:02:43.83 Thank you for each one who is viewing, 00:02:44.03\00:02:45.79 those who are listening. We pray that this program 00:02:45.99\00:02:48.70 will uplift Your name, that we'll be drawn closer to Jesus, 00:02:48.90\00:02:52.00 we'll be building on that good foundation that lasts 00:02:52.20\00:02:54.77 for eternity. And we thank you in Jesus' name, 00:02:54.97\00:02:56.94 Amen. Amen. 00:02:57.14\00:02:59.11 So... the first question is: 00:02:59.81\00:03:01.78 how do I surrender to God? What does it mean to surrender? 00:03:01.98\00:03:06.21 I'll take that one 'cause this is one of my favorite topics. 00:03:07.45\00:03:10.69 To surrender means simply to consent or yield 00:03:12.22\00:03:16.83 to the control of God. 00:03:17.03\00:03:19.13 God will never come in... The Holy Spirit never tries 00:03:19.33\00:03:21.76 to take control. You have to consent. 00:03:21.96\00:03:24.97 And I think that this is some- thing... I spend a lot of time 00:03:25.37\00:03:28.80 studying, asking the Lord "How do I surrender? " 00:03:29.00\00:03:32.24 And He showed me some steps. 00:03:32.64\00:03:34.44 You know, the first thing: the Lord directed me to 00:03:34.64\00:03:39.08 follow the path of Christ's passion. 00:03:39.28\00:03:41.38 Luke 22:42 Jesus said: 00:03:41.58\00:03:45.05 "Not My will but Thine be done. " 00:03:45.25\00:03:48.19 That's the first step of surrender 00:03:48.59\00:03:50.33 is we have to get to that point where we're saying 00:03:50.53\00:03:52.79 "Lord, I want Your will to be done in my life... not mine. " 00:03:52.99\00:03:56.43 And we know that it is God who works in us 00:03:56.93\00:04:00.37 to will and to do His good purpose... 00:04:00.57\00:04:03.47 but not unless we are surrendered. 00:04:03.67\00:04:06.47 And then Jesus... If you think about His passion 00:04:06.88\00:04:10.25 as He went from the Garden of Gethsemane 00:04:10.45\00:04:12.38 He then went to the hill of Calvary. 00:04:12.58\00:04:15.48 And He tells us in Luke 9:23 00:04:15.68\00:04:17.65 that "If any man would come after Me, he must pick up his 00:04:18.05\00:04:21.46 cross daily and follow Me. " 00:04:21.66\00:04:24.53 To pick up your cross means to die to self. 00:04:24.93\00:04:27.53 It's to be "crucified with Christ" as Paul said. 00:04:27.93\00:04:32.43 "I've been crucified with Christ. It's no longer I 00:04:32.63\00:04:35.14 who live but Christ who lives in me. " 00:04:35.34\00:04:37.67 And this is something that we have to realize: 00:04:38.07\00:04:42.18 we can't do that even by ourself. 00:04:42.38\00:04:44.61 It is all by the power of the Holy Spirit. 00:04:44.81\00:04:46.95 Because Romans 8:13 says 00:04:47.35\00:04:49.88 that "If by the Spirit we put to death the misdeeds 00:04:50.09\00:04:54.49 of our flesh we shall live. " 00:04:54.79\00:04:56.32 But then as you go on and you're thinking about this 00:04:56.73\00:04:58.83 the most important thing is to consider Christ's resurrection 00:04:59.03\00:05:03.23 morning, because when He was resurrected... Christ doesn't 00:05:03.43\00:05:07.80 want us to stay in the grave when we're crucifying ourselves. 00:05:08.00\00:05:11.04 What He tells us in Luke 11:23 00:05:11.44\00:05:16.28 when He says: "Ask and keep on asking. " 00:05:16.48\00:05:19.28 11:13 isn't it? "Ask and keep on asking; 00:05:19.48\00:05:22.55 seek and keep on seeking; knock and keep on knocking. " 00:05:22.75\00:05:25.99 And what He is saying is if anyone like you 00:05:26.39\00:05:31.99 know how to give good gifts to your children 00:05:32.19\00:05:34.10 how much more will the Heavenly Father 00:05:34.30\00:05:36.03 give the Holy Spirit to those who ask and keep on asking. 00:05:36.23\00:05:39.33 Now, just one little thing and then I'm going to stop. 00:05:39.83\00:05:42.20 But when I was praying and asking the Lord 00:05:42.80\00:05:46.17 "What is surrender all about? " He showed me a little tiny 00:05:46.37\00:05:50.78 sugar ant next to a huge elephant. 00:05:50.98\00:05:53.28 And He said: "Shelley, your greatest human strength 00:05:53.68\00:05:56.85 can be compared to this little tiny sugar ant 00:05:57.05\00:06:00.89 whereas My strength by com- parison is like the elephant. " 00:06:01.39\00:06:05.46 To be yoked to Christ means 00:06:06.06\00:06:09.63 that suddenly here's this little ant up here 00:06:09.83\00:06:13.00 yoked to this elephantine power. 00:06:13.20\00:06:15.90 It's not by might nor by power 00:06:16.10\00:06:18.24 but by God's Holy Spirit. 00:06:18.44\00:06:20.21 So it's God who's carrying the weight. 00:06:20.61\00:06:24.05 So surrender is really a beautiful and exciting path. 00:06:24.25\00:06:28.62 OK... I don't know if there's anything else to say on that 00:06:29.22\00:06:32.22 topic. Panel? All right. 00:06:32.42\00:06:34.46 Well, I think that sometimes people are fearful 00:06:34.86\00:06:37.59 of surrendering because they think that in surrendering 00:06:37.79\00:06:39.83 to God it means I have to give up something good. 00:06:40.03\00:06:43.00 But no. The Bible says: "No good thing will I withhold 00:06:43.60\00:06:46.74 from those who walk uprightly. " 00:06:46.94\00:06:48.27 So in a nutshell I would add to what Shelley said 00:06:48.30\00:06:50.01 it's our own understanding that often prevents us 00:06:50.41\00:06:53.27 from surrendering to God. But Proverbs 3:-5-6 says: 00:06:53.48\00:06:56.75 "Trust in the Lord with all your heart; don't lean on 00:06:57.25\00:06:59.28 your own understanding. " 00:06:59.48\00:07:00.82 Because think that surrendering means this 00:07:00.98\00:07:02.78 but if we don't lean on our understanding God will guide us 00:07:02.98\00:07:06.42 to someplace better than He finds us. 00:07:06.62\00:07:08.62 OK. Christ says: "He that cometh unto me 00:07:08.82\00:07:12.36 I will in no wise cast out. " So when you go 00:07:12.56\00:07:14.70 you can go in faith. I'm in Galatians 3:26... 00:07:14.90\00:07:17.80 just one text: "For you are all sons of God 00:07:18.00\00:07:21.00 through faith in Jesus Christ. 00:07:21.20\00:07:23.37 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ 00:07:23.57\00:07:26.11 have put on Christ. " 00:07:26.31\00:07:27.91 So we become the sons of God through faith in Christ. 00:07:28.11\00:07:30.45 The moment you say: "Jesus, I throw down my arms; 00:07:30.65\00:07:34.35 I wave the white flag; I am Yours" 00:07:34.55\00:07:36.99 then your conversion experience begins. 00:07:37.19\00:07:39.35 Then you become a son or daughter of Christ. 00:07:39.75\00:07:41.99 OK... all right. Here's a question that we probably all 00:07:42.39\00:07:46.93 deal with and have dealt with in our lives 00:07:47.13\00:07:49.96 but it's a good question: 00:07:50.17\00:07:51.53 How can I forgive someone who has really hurt me? 00:07:51.73\00:07:55.20 How do we do that? 00:07:56.44\00:07:58.37 It's easy to tell someone else how to forgive, 00:07:58.87\00:08:01.84 but when it's us... You know, Danny, I think that's 00:08:02.04\00:08:04.81 probably a process that every one of us 00:08:05.01\00:08:08.08 as a born-again Christian faces in our life. 00:08:08.28\00:08:13.36 But I found out that I was just not capable 00:08:13.56\00:08:16.12 within myself. That's right. I cannot forgive. 00:08:16.32\00:08:19.39 Only Christ living in us makes us capable 00:08:19.79\00:08:23.23 to be able to forgive. So by beholding Him 00:08:23.43\00:08:25.53 we become changed and then we see where there's changes 00:08:25.73\00:08:29.17 that need to take place. And I'm so thankful 00:08:29.37\00:08:30.94 that He comes in and He makes those changes 00:08:31.14\00:08:33.61 inside of us so that we can "love our enemies. " 00:08:33.81\00:08:37.11 Love those who despitefully use us. 00:08:37.31\00:08:39.98 That's an impossibility with me... in the flesh. 00:08:40.28\00:08:43.18 You can't do it... you can't do it on your own. 00:08:43.39\00:08:44.72 Some people say: "I just can't love that person; 00:08:44.92\00:08:46.25 I just can't get along with that person. " 00:08:46.39\00:08:47.72 You know, because it's Christ in you the hope of glory. 00:08:48.09\00:08:50.53 Let Him come in... let Him love 00:08:50.73\00:08:53.46 and you'll see that things will change in your heart 00:08:53.86\00:08:55.66 and in your life as Christ takes possession. 00:08:55.86\00:08:58.10 And then it's easier to love and to be forgiving. 00:08:58.30\00:09:03.07 There is a statement by Ellen White in the Spirit of Prophecy 00:09:03.47\00:09:06.47 where she says two things: 00:09:06.68\00:09:08.14 "If we would lay aside pride and the love of self, 00:09:08.34\00:09:13.35 most disagreements could be taken care of in five minutes. " 00:09:13.85\00:09:17.92 The fact of the matter is that the sin of the church 00:09:19.15\00:09:22.32 is the sin of pride. We are told it is the hardest to diagnose, 00:09:22.52\00:09:26.86 almost impossible to cure, 00:09:27.06\00:09:29.30 and just about the whole church is infected. 00:09:29.50\00:09:31.47 So one of the ways to begin to forgive others 00:09:31.87\00:09:35.44 is ask God to show you yourself. 00:09:35.64\00:09:38.54 And if you say: "Well, she pushes my buttons" 00:09:38.94\00:09:41.94 it simply means you have buttons there to be pushed. 00:09:42.14\00:09:44.65 You've gotta ask God: "Lord, remove those buttons. 00:09:45.05\00:09:47.58 Pop those buttons so that they are not pushed any more. " 00:09:47.78\00:09:50.59 But as we look at ourselves we see the wounds that we bring 00:09:50.79\00:09:55.46 to Christ... how we crucify Him afresh. 00:09:55.66\00:09:57.69 And when you get a good look at yourself 00:09:57.99\00:10:00.03 then you are ready to look at others and to forgive. 00:10:00.23\00:10:03.43 And could I add to that something the Lord 00:10:03.97\00:10:07.44 really impressed upon me once as I was praying 00:10:07.64\00:10:09.97 to be forgiven. There's only one time in my life 00:10:10.67\00:10:14.21 I've struggled to forgive someone. 00:10:14.41\00:10:16.14 And this person did a lot of harm to me. 00:10:16.54\00:10:18.38 But the Lord kept telling me... You know what I'm saying 00:10:18.58\00:10:21.48 when I said: "He tells me. " I Kings 19:12... 00:10:21.68\00:10:25.12 The still small voice of the Lord when the Holy Spirit 00:10:25.32\00:10:27.49 impresses a thought upon your mind. 00:10:27.89\00:10:29.72 And He would say: "Forgive him and I will forgive you. " 00:10:30.23\00:10:35.76 And I thought: "Lord, I don't want to forgive him. " 00:10:36.60\00:10:39.10 I mean... I just... I wanted to hold onto it 00:10:39.70\00:10:42.34 and I didn't know how. And as I prayed 00:10:42.54\00:10:44.57 the Lord told me to pray for his salvation. 00:10:44.77\00:10:47.24 And I said: "OK, I will... 00:10:47.94\00:10:50.48 but You know I don't mean it. " 00:10:50.68\00:10:52.05 I could have cared less if this man was saved or not. 00:10:52.45\00:10:56.02 But as I... Confession is good for the soul 00:10:56.42\00:11:00.16 yet hard on the reputation. 00:11:00.36\00:11:01.86 That's where I was at. 00:11:02.26\00:11:03.86 And so as I began praying for him something really interesting 00:11:04.06\00:11:08.36 happened: God began to show me this man through His eyes... 00:11:08.56\00:11:12.87 that he was lost and suffering. 00:11:13.27\00:11:15.60 And suddenly God's love was poured into my heart 00:11:16.00\00:11:20.78 for this man, and I really did care about his salvation. 00:11:20.98\00:11:24.88 And as soon as I found that I cared for his salvation 00:11:25.28\00:11:28.68 guess what? The forgiveness had come. 00:11:29.08\00:11:31.89 Johnny: I wanted to add 00:11:32.49\00:11:35.59 when you read the Bible you see things in there that 00:11:35.99\00:11:39.06 you say: "Well how can I do that? Love your enemies? " 00:11:39.66\00:11:42.70 And somebody slaps you on one side of your face 00:11:43.10\00:11:46.13 give them the other. 00:11:46.43\00:11:47.90 And you say: "Well, you see, what God asks us to do 00:11:48.10\00:11:52.44 He gives us the ability to do. " 00:11:52.64\00:11:55.01 And that's why the first thing we must do is be willing 00:11:55.44\00:11:59.45 to allow God to do in us 00:11:59.85\00:12:02.55 that which we know we cannot do of ourselves. 00:12:02.75\00:12:05.05 So when we surrender - as you were mentioning - 00:12:05.59\00:12:08.29 God begins a work in our lives 00:12:08.49\00:12:11.19 that will amaze us as we look back. 00:12:11.49\00:12:13.96 "You mean I forgave that person? " 00:12:14.16\00:12:16.36 Because God works in you to do things 00:12:16.56\00:12:19.27 that you cannot really do for yourself. 00:12:19.67\00:12:21.60 Here in Matthew chapter 6- the Lord's Prayer - it says: 00:12:21.90\00:12:27.68 "And forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors. " 00:12:28.08\00:12:30.95 That's Matthew 6:12. 00:12:31.15\00:12:32.65 And then 14 and 15: "For if ye forgive men their trespasses 00:12:32.85\00:12:36.72 your Heavenly Father will also forgive you. 00:12:36.92\00:12:39.09 But if you forgive not men their trespasses 00:12:39.49\00:12:41.72 neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. " 00:12:41.92\00:12:44.13 So the first part is surrender. 00:12:44.53\00:12:46.19 Ask the Lord: "Lord, give me the love for my enemy. " 00:12:46.39\00:12:49.00 Because sometimes I've heard things people say: 00:12:49.20\00:12:53.67 "If I weren't a Christian... " 00:12:54.77\00:12:57.01 Anybody say that? 00:12:58.27\00:12:59.84 "If I weren't a Christian... " 00:13:00.04\00:13:01.78 And so there's work for God to do in us 00:13:02.74\00:13:04.68 when we have those expressions come out in our anger. 00:13:04.88\00:13:08.35 'Cause sometimes we may say them jokingly 00:13:08.75\00:13:10.45 but if we allow God to work in us He will transform us 00:13:10.69\00:13:14.69 into the likeness of Jesus. 00:13:14.89\00:13:16.22 You know so many times... I'm sorry, John, we target our 00:13:16.26\00:13:18.56 prayers for certain things like: "Lord help me not to do this; 00:13:18.76\00:13:22.03 Lord help me not to do that. " 00:13:22.23\00:13:23.57 I have always felt that to try to use your will 00:13:23.67\00:13:26.40 not to do something is an incorrect use of the will. 00:13:26.60\00:13:29.17 Because some days you can stop doing things by force of... 00:13:29.70\00:13:32.31 of... your own force of nature. 00:13:32.51\00:13:35.01 You can say: "Today I will not smoke. " 00:13:35.21\00:13:36.81 But tomorrow you may not be that strong. 00:13:37.01\00:13:38.68 So you don't want to use your will not to do something. 00:13:39.08\00:13:41.72 You want to ask: "Lord, draw me closer to You. " 00:13:42.12\00:13:44.75 Because as you draw closer to Christ 00:13:44.95\00:13:46.86 these things will begin to fall aside. 00:13:47.06\00:13:49.36 Well, Johnny bothers me today; Shelley bothers me tomorrow. 00:13:49.56\00:13:52.26 So every day I'm saying: "Lord, free me from one 00:13:52.46\00:13:53.86 of these guys. " But if I say every day... 00:13:54.06\00:13:56.50 If I say every day: "Lord, draw me to You, " 00:13:56.70\00:13:59.20 then these things will take care of themselves 00:13:59.60\00:14:02.04 because I'm using my will in a positive way. 00:14:02.34\00:14:04.81 Use your will to draw closer to Christ 00:14:05.01\00:14:07.54 and you will find that John and Shelley won't bother you so much 00:14:07.74\00:14:10.95 any more. Thank you Pastor C. A. 00:14:11.15\00:14:14.78 You know also forgiveness is reciprocal. 00:14:14.98\00:14:17.09 Forgiveness is like a revolving door. 00:14:17.29\00:14:19.29 If you don't forgive, you WON'T be forgiven. 00:14:20.22\00:14:23.22 But it's even deeper than that I've discovered. 00:14:23.43\00:14:25.29 I was reading a devotion a few weeks ago... One of my favorite 00:14:25.49\00:14:28.33 other authors outside of Ellen White is Oswald Chambers. 00:14:28.53\00:14:30.63 And he brought out the point... he said: 00:14:30.83\00:14:32.40 "When the devil tempts you he doesn't tempt you 00:14:32.80\00:14:35.77 because if he tempted you you'd always fail. 00:14:35.97\00:14:38.17 He only comes after you to tempt the Christ in you. 00:14:38.57\00:14:42.74 He wouldn't feel the necessity to tempt a sinner 00:14:45.01\00:14:48.28 because you are already lost. 00:14:48.48\00:14:49.95 But when you declare that Christ's in you, he comes 00:14:50.35\00:14:52.75 to tempt the Christ in you. " 00:14:52.95\00:14:54.42 He said: "So are you willing to allow the Christ in you now 00:14:54.62\00:14:58.26 to also extend forgiveness as Christ did? " 00:14:58.66\00:15:01.96 When Jesus said: 'Father, forgive them for they know not 00:15:02.26\00:15:04.70 what they do' if Christ is really in us 00:15:04.90\00:15:06.80 we become... Christ now extends forgiveness through us 00:15:07.00\00:15:11.24 because it is Him not us. " 00:15:11.44\00:15:13.88 So when somebody says: "Why can't you forgive someone? " 00:15:14.08\00:15:17.38 I can't! But the Christ in me proves that He can 00:15:17.58\00:15:20.42 because He did that at the most critical moment of His life. 00:15:20.62\00:15:23.18 He said: "Forgive them, for they know not what they do. " 00:15:23.39\00:15:24.99 So, in a nutshell, if I let the Christ work in me 00:15:25.19\00:15:28.82 He will do the forgiving... not I. 00:15:29.02\00:15:31.09 Amen! You know Danny, an interesting thought: 00:15:31.29\00:15:34.66 interesting thought on this is because people will come 00:15:34.86\00:15:36.97 and say: "How do I really know 00:15:37.17\00:15:41.17 that I've forgiven that person? " 00:15:41.37\00:15:43.57 They pray about it. You know, they may fast... they may... 00:15:43.97\00:15:46.31 Years they're praying about it. 00:15:46.51\00:15:48.38 But many of them come back and say: "I don't know that 00:15:48.58\00:15:50.71 I have really forgiven. I don't know... " 00:15:50.91\00:15:54.32 But you know, I found out something very simple: 00:15:54.52\00:15:56.85 if you can... This worked for me. 00:15:57.25\00:15:59.35 I don't know about for anyone else. 00:15:59.75\00:16:01.22 But I know when I get on my knees 00:16:01.42\00:16:03.22 'cause when you're working on an issue, that you have a 00:16:03.43\00:16:05.43 situation somewhere and you know you're supposed to pray 00:16:05.63\00:16:08.76 for that person - you mentioned - the human flesh 00:16:08.96\00:16:11.87 does not want to bring up that name. 00:16:12.07\00:16:13.74 But you know you should... not only for them but for yourself. 00:16:14.14\00:16:16.37 But when you pray for that indi- vidual and you call them by name 00:16:17.51\00:16:20.74 you know in your heart whether you've really forgiven them 00:16:21.34\00:16:24.21 or not. Because many times when you bring up that name 00:16:24.41\00:16:27.32 and you pray for that person, there's something inside 00:16:27.52\00:16:30.12 that's still doing like this. 00:16:30.32\00:16:31.99 You know that you went through the motions, you went through 00:16:32.19\00:16:34.16 what the Bible said... there's still something stirring 00:16:34.32\00:16:36.36 inside of you. When the time comes - 00:16:36.56\00:16:39.56 Christ in you, the hope of glory - 00:16:39.76\00:16:41.30 when He really takes possession, you will be able 00:16:41.50\00:16:44.77 to name that person by name and you feel a peace 00:16:44.97\00:16:49.40 and a happiness inside. 00:16:49.60\00:16:51.57 There's no holding back of anything. 00:16:51.77\00:16:54.18 You KNOW that God's worked a miracle in your heart 00:16:54.34\00:16:56.95 and in your life, and there is a peace that passes all 00:16:57.15\00:16:59.95 understanding. Amen! Absolutely... good. 00:17:00.15\00:17:02.48 A few years ago I was in the green room. 00:17:02.88\00:17:05.42 It was Camp Meeting; the green room's in the back. 00:17:05.62\00:17:07.76 And somebody walked in there and they said: 00:17:08.16\00:17:10.23 "There's a woman out there and she's just saying terrible 00:17:10.43\00:17:14.03 things about you. " I said: "Oh, really? " 00:17:14.23\00:17:16.97 She said: "Yeah! She said this about you 00:17:17.17\00:17:19.77 and that you did this and you did that. " 00:17:19.97\00:17:21.67 Well the truth of it is: I've been in a fish bowl 00:17:21.87\00:17:24.14 for over 30 years, so really that stuff, I don't pay 00:17:24.34\00:17:27.04 much attention to it. 00:17:27.24\00:17:28.58 I try not to pay attention when people brag 00:17:28.61\00:17:30.58 or when they condemn you 'cause either way you get in trouble, 00:17:30.78\00:17:33.42 right? So I didn't say too much 00:17:33.62\00:17:36.05 but we had a guest singer here. 00:17:36.25\00:17:38.02 A country girl... great singer. 00:17:38.22\00:17:40.29 She was here, and so I didn't say anything. 00:17:40.89\00:17:43.06 So she said: "That's terrible 00:17:43.26\00:17:45.06 that somebody's talking about him like that! " 00:17:45.26\00:17:47.66 And she said: "Listen, Danny, 00:17:48.16\00:17:49.73 don't let it bother you. Just give it to Jesus... 00:17:49.93\00:17:53.13 don't worry. " I hadn't said a word. I was 00:17:53.34\00:17:55.20 just sitting there. She said: "Just don't worry about it 00:17:55.40\00:17:57.84 when people talk about you. You know, they talked about 00:17:58.04\00:18:01.28 the Lord. Just don't let it bother you. " 00:18:01.48\00:18:03.88 And the person who told me said: "Also... " Looked at the lady, 00:18:04.08\00:18:07.15 said: "She was running you down, too. " 00:18:07.35\00:18:09.62 And she said: "Who is she? I'll slap her to sleep! " 00:18:09.82\00:18:12.85 She said... She jumped up from her chair. 00:18:13.15\00:18:16.32 "I will slap her to sleep! 00:18:16.52\00:18:17.86 How dare she talk about me? " 00:18:18.03\00:18:19.79 I said: "Hello? What did you just tell me? " 00:18:20.40\00:18:23.77 And she said: "Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. I kind of lost it! " 00:18:23.97\00:18:26.70 So it's... you know, that happens to us now and then, 00:18:26.90\00:18:30.31 right? It's easy to encourage someone else 00:18:30.51\00:18:33.58 but when it's her she's going to "slap her to sleep. " 00:18:33.78\00:18:36.08 Whatever that means. I was scared of it. 00:18:37.11\00:18:39.31 My dad used to tell me that, so I never... He never did, 00:18:39.51\00:18:42.02 but I always minded when he said it. 00:18:42.22\00:18:44.02 Can I just add one little thing? The reason the Lord tells us 00:18:44.99\00:18:48.06 to forgive our enemies is because when we hold 00:18:48.26\00:18:51.56 unforgiveness in our heart we block the flow of the 00:18:51.76\00:18:55.10 Holy Spirit. Amen! So He's not telling them 00:18:55.30\00:18:58.70 to do... us to do that 00:18:58.90\00:19:01.07 for their benefit as much as He is for ours. 00:19:01.27\00:19:04.31 That's right. Danny, something we learned in London: 00:19:04.71\00:19:07.41 Dr. Chitty, who was our nightly medical presenter, 00:19:07.61\00:19:11.38 he did an excellent job. He made an example 00:19:11.58\00:19:14.68 that I want all of us to just visualize. He said... 00:19:14.88\00:19:17.22 Somebody asked the question: "How heavy is that glass 00:19:17.42\00:19:20.96 of water? " And it was just an 8-ounce glass of water. 00:19:21.12\00:19:24.19 They said: "It's not that heavy. " 00:19:24.39\00:19:25.79 Said: "Well then... pick it up. " 00:19:25.99\00:19:27.33 And anyone in the room from the smallest to the youngest 00:19:27.53\00:19:30.63 could pick it up. "This is really not that heavy. " 00:19:30.83\00:19:33.97 He said: "Well then, keep holding onto it... " 00:19:34.17\00:19:36.71 All right... "and I'll tell you when to put it down. " 00:19:37.74\00:19:40.58 He said: "The glass is not heavy initially, but the longer 00:19:41.64\00:19:44.61 you hold it the heavier it gets. " Amen! There you go! 00:19:44.81\00:19:48.32 That's what unforgiveness is. The longer you hold it - OK - 00:19:48.52\00:19:51.09 something that is ever so light in its initial impact - 00:19:51.39\00:19:54.86 becomes heavy when you refuse to let it down. 00:19:55.06\00:19:57.83 So if you want to be free: forgiveness first frees you 00:19:58.33\00:20:02.73 before it frees the other person. 00:20:03.03\00:20:04.63 Jesus said: "Father, forgive them... " so He died a free Man. 00:20:04.83\00:20:08.10 We have no question that our Savior died 00:20:08.50\00:20:10.91 with forgiveness in His heart and not anger. 00:20:11.11\00:20:14.48 Good. All right, Yvonne. 00:20:14.68\00:20:16.14 The next question is: John 17:3 says "Eternal life 00:20:16.68\00:20:21.52 is to know the Father and Jesus Christ. " 00:20:21.72\00:20:24.05 We stress having a personal relationship with Jesus 00:20:24.45\00:20:27.66 but never mention having a relationship with the Father. 00:20:27.86\00:20:30.53 How do we know the Father? 00:20:30.93\00:20:32.89 Hebrews 1:3 says that 00:20:34.56\00:20:39.70 Jesus is the "effluence, " the exact image 00:20:39.90\00:20:44.87 of the Father. If you know Jesus, Jesus said: 00:20:45.27\00:20:48.34 "If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father. " 00:20:48.54\00:20:50.51 The reason Jesus came to earth other than to, of course, 00:20:50.71\00:20:54.68 save us from our sins 00:20:54.88\00:20:57.12 was that we could know who the Father is 00:20:57.52\00:21:02.76 because He was the exact representation of the Father. 00:21:03.16\00:21:06.46 And if... You know, the thing that none of us understand - 00:21:06.86\00:21:11.30 and I'm not saying I'm there yet, either - 00:21:11.50\00:21:13.10 none of us understand how much God loves us. 00:21:13.60\00:21:16.14 God loves us so much, and He is so loving 00:21:16.54\00:21:19.11 and He is so wonderful and giving. 00:21:19.31\00:21:21.98 But when we know Jesus we will know the Father. 00:21:22.18\00:21:26.68 So to have a personal relationship with Jesus 00:21:26.88\00:21:29.58 is to have a personal relationship with the Father. 00:21:29.98\00:21:32.79 Didn't Jesus one time - talking to the disciples? 00:21:33.96\00:21:38.26 They came up to Him and they said: "Show us the Father. " 00:21:38.46\00:21:41.60 Remember that? "Show us the Father. " 00:21:42.00\00:21:43.37 And I - this is just in my own mind - but I'm... 00:21:43.77\00:21:46.13 I'm just sure that those sweet little tears just came down His 00:21:46.33\00:21:50.14 cheeks and He looked right into their eyes and He said: 00:21:50.34\00:21:53.38 "You know, have I not been with you? " Talking about time, 00:21:53.58\00:21:56.98 He said: "If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father. " 00:21:57.18\00:22:00.08 I thought how moving that was that the King of the universe... 00:22:00.58\00:22:05.09 They're saying: "Show us the Father" and He said: 00:22:06.09\00:22:07.92 "This is... this is Him. Emptied of self, 00:22:08.22\00:22:10.89 I came to show you what the Father's all about. " 00:22:11.09\00:22:13.53 So I thought that just what an illustration that was: 00:22:13.93\00:22:16.70 that really I know who God is to the best of my ability 00:22:16.90\00:22:21.04 as I behold Jesus I behold God. 00:22:21.24\00:22:25.21 I'm in Hebrews 1:1. "God, who in various times 00:22:26.47\00:22:28.91 and in various ways spoke in times past 00:22:29.11\00:22:31.01 to the fathers by the prophets 00:22:31.21\00:22:32.81 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son. " 00:22:33.01\00:22:36.28 So God is speaking to us through Jesus. 00:22:36.69\00:22:38.85 "Through whom He made the world. Who, being the brightness of His 00:22:39.05\00:22:42.42 glory, the express image of His person, 00:22:42.62\00:22:44.89 and upholding all things by the word of His power. " 00:22:45.09\00:22:47.90 I echo what Pastor Kenny said. 00:22:48.30\00:22:50.30 As you see Jesus you see God. 00:22:50.50\00:22:53.03 And God was willing to give up Christ, and Christ was 00:22:53.23\00:22:56.84 willing to come. So if you want to know who God is 00:22:57.04\00:22:59.81 it's like looking at a twin. 00:23:00.01\00:23:01.84 As you see who Jesus is and you see what He does 00:23:02.04\00:23:05.48 that's what the Father who sent Him is and what He does. 00:23:05.68\00:23:09.02 And as an extension of that, don't you think that God 00:23:09.62\00:23:12.55 sent Jesus to this earth 00:23:12.75\00:23:14.92 to reveal Himself to human beings? 00:23:15.32\00:23:18.99 You know, because we needed somebody to relate to 00:23:19.49\00:23:24.87 and the Father sent Jesus. 00:23:25.07\00:23:29.00 Also, this verse is a reiteration of John 14. 00:23:31.11\00:23:34.31 In John 14 Jesus continually had to break through 00:23:34.71\00:23:38.35 more than a thousand years of head knowledge 00:23:38.75\00:23:41.78 that never made it to the heart. 00:23:41.98\00:23:43.39 The Jewish people that He had chosen to be the vessels of 00:23:43.79\00:23:45.89 truth said they knew Him. 00:23:46.09\00:23:47.56 Remember He said: "You believe in God... " 00:23:47.76\00:23:49.69 What also? "believe also in Me. " 00:23:49.89\00:23:52.79 And so in John 17 the Lord was speaking to a people 00:23:52.99\00:23:56.23 who claimed to know God. And if you look at John 17:3 00:23:56.43\00:23:59.43 again He says: "And this is life eternal: 00:23:59.63\00:24:01.57 that they may know You... " They already say they know 00:24:01.77\00:24:05.01 You... "the only true God... " 00:24:05.21\00:24:07.08 And they said there was only one God - 00:24:07.28\00:24:08.64 the Hebrews believed that from Old Testament times - 00:24:08.84\00:24:10.95 but then He added: "You know God AND 00:24:11.15\00:24:14.45 Jesus Christ whom You have sent. " 00:24:14.65\00:24:16.99 Because what they were hesitant of 00:24:17.39\00:24:20.42 is accepting Jesus, the Son who revealed the Father. 00:24:20.62\00:24:24.06 And so He was saying this to people that had claimed 00:24:24.46\00:24:26.16 to know the Father. But He said: "You can't stop 00:24:26.36\00:24:27.90 there. You've got to also accept My Son. 00:24:28.10\00:24:30.33 If you accept Him, then you really do love Me. " 00:24:30.53\00:24:33.17 OK. The book of John and the book of Hebrews 00:24:34.14\00:24:36.71 basically have the same burden. 00:24:37.01\00:24:39.24 They are to ratify, to verify, to affirm 00:24:39.44\00:24:42.64 that Jesus is - to use modern parlance - "the real deal. " 00:24:42.84\00:24:46.31 You don't need to look anyplace else, you don't need 00:24:46.72\00:24:48.48 to go anyplace else. When you've got Jesus 00:24:48.68\00:24:50.72 you've got all you need. And you never know that 00:24:50.92\00:24:53.19 Jesus is all you need until Jesus is all you got. 00:24:53.39\00:24:56.32 All right! One last thing to add to that: 00:24:56.52\00:24:58.49 True... this is a powerful point. 00:24:58.69\00:25:00.03 Jesus continually was established to let people know 00:25:00.16\00:25:03.73 "You're not going to get to the Father if you ignore Me. " 00:25:03.93\00:25:06.27 See, there's only one Mediator between God and man: 00:25:06.74\00:25:09.27 the Man Christ Jesus. 00:25:09.47\00:25:10.81 The only way you can get to the Father... 00:25:11.17\00:25:12.74 "No man cometh unto the Father but by Me. " 00:25:12.94\00:25:15.71 He continually said it to a people who had grown 00:25:15.91\00:25:18.81 recalcitrant on that they knew God but they refused to 00:25:19.01\00:25:21.88 accept Jesus. So that's why that was continually reiterated 00:25:22.08\00:25:24.92 in the New Testament. Amen. Johnny? 00:25:25.12\00:25:27.42 I would like to add I agree with all that. 00:25:27.62\00:25:30.03 It's just marvelous that a relationship with Jesus 00:25:30.23\00:25:34.20 is a relationship with the Father. Yes! 00:25:34.40\00:25:36.80 In John chapter 1, John chapter 14, 17. 00:25:37.00\00:25:39.83 Here is John chapter 1 verse 18: "No man has seen God 00:25:40.04\00:25:43.51 at any time. The only begotten Son 00:25:43.71\00:25:46.01 which is in the bosom of the Father: He hath declared Him. " 00:25:46.21\00:25:48.88 Jesus came to reveal who the Father was 00:25:49.28\00:25:52.55 and how He was. 00:25:52.75\00:25:54.08 And that's why He was able to say 00:25:54.12\00:25:57.65 "He who has seen Me has seen the Father. " 00:25:57.85\00:26:00.79 And Jesus said: "If a man love Me he will keep My words 00:26:01.46\00:26:06.26 and I will come to him. And the Father will love him 00:26:06.46\00:26:10.43 and we will love and make our abode with him. " 00:26:10.63\00:26:12.57 So we are having a relationship with the whole godhead 00:26:12.77\00:26:17.47 as we do this. OK... thank you. 00:26:17.67\00:26:19.87 This one I thinks' a trick question. 00:26:20.28\00:26:22.14 It said: "Why is it that Danny Shelton hasn't aged 00:26:22.84\00:26:25.38 in 30 years? " Now, I think you did that 00:26:25.58\00:26:29.25 because I said I'm not bothered by insults 00:26:29.45\00:26:32.85 or compliments, but on this one I changed my mind. 00:26:33.05\00:26:36.06 Whoever said that I'm going to give you a tip! 00:26:36.26\00:26:38.56 Here's a tip. No... that was a trick question 00:26:38.76\00:26:42.20 but thank you... that was nice. 00:26:42.40\00:26:43.73 That's a way of smoking you out. He wants to find out 00:26:43.93\00:26:45.93 who said that. I noticed there were several hands 00:26:46.13\00:26:50.24 that were raised. They went for the money. 00:26:50.44\00:26:52.21 Yeah, I saw several... several people. 00:26:52.41\00:26:54.78 Why is Satan released at the end of the 1,000 years 00:26:55.48\00:26:59.81 to deceive the nations? 00:27:00.02\00:27:01.52 I will start by saying this: during the 1,000 years 00:27:05.09\00:27:10.96 Satan has an opportunity to see the results 00:27:11.16\00:27:15.33 of his work, the results of his leadership 00:27:15.53\00:27:19.37 in the world. He sees the destruction 00:27:19.57\00:27:22.44 and the ruin that there is on the earth. 00:27:22.64\00:27:25.37 After the 1,000 years, you would hope to see some change 00:27:26.01\00:27:30.25 in an individual that has had an opportunity 00:27:30.65\00:27:33.31 to see the results of what he has done. 00:27:33.52\00:27:35.28 But after the 1,000 years the Bible reveals that he goes 00:27:35.68\00:27:39.05 back to what he has done before. 00:27:39.25\00:27:40.86 He tries to get people together to fight against God. 00:27:41.06\00:27:45.26 There is no change. He has become... He has let wickedness 00:27:45.46\00:27:50.03 consume him so he is not who he was before. 00:27:50.23\00:27:53.74 He is the devil... the adversary... 00:27:54.14\00:27:56.77 and that's who he will always be 00:27:56.97\00:27:59.74 until... let me finish that by saying 00:27:59.94\00:28:02.58 until the time when he has to pay for the sins that he has 00:28:02.78\00:28:06.68 committed. And the Bible says that "the wages of sin 00:28:06.88\00:28:08.82 is death. " 00:28:09.22\00:28:10.55 He is chained with a chain of circumstances. 00:28:10.69\00:28:12.82 It is not that he is chained per se, 00:28:13.02\00:28:15.42 but there's simply no one for him to tempt. 00:28:15.62\00:28:18.16 "The Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, 00:28:18.56\00:28:20.63 with the voice of the archangel and the trump of God. 00:28:20.83\00:28:22.63 The dead in Christ rise first, then we which are alive and 00:28:22.83\00:28:24.90 remain... " So all of the saved are in heaven. 00:28:25.10\00:28:28.37 The wicked have been destroyed by the brightness of His coming. 00:28:28.77\00:28:31.81 So he's here and there's nothing for him to do. 00:28:32.01\00:28:34.54 There's no one here for him to tempt. 00:28:34.94\00:28:36.85 At the end of the 1,000-year period when the Holy City's 00:28:37.25\00:28:40.58 coming down, those dead are being re-awakened 00:28:40.78\00:28:42.88 preparatory to the executive judgment. 00:28:43.99\00:28:47.12 Well, Satan has not changed because there's nothing for him 00:28:47.32\00:28:50.96 to change. He has no Holy Spirit. 00:28:51.16\00:28:52.49 There's nothing to change, so he goes about doing what 00:28:52.59\00:28:54.20 he's always done. He simply does what he's always done. 00:28:54.36\00:28:56.87 He whips up these people in a frenzy because 00:28:57.27\00:28:59.97 they think they can take the city. And then at that point 00:29:00.17\00:29:02.10 judgment comes down. So it's just preparatory 00:29:02.30\00:29:05.17 to the final eradication of sin and sinners. 00:29:05.37\00:29:08.71 And of course, the arch-sinner, the originator of sin, 00:29:08.91\00:29:11.98 is going to be destroyed at that time also. 00:29:12.18\00:29:13.85 I would say just to add to those comments 00:29:14.45\00:29:17.45 with which I agree: he is released for our benefit 00:29:17.65\00:29:21.69 because when we see... I mean, we always want... 00:29:21.89\00:29:25.93 if we've got a loved one who hasn't followed the Lord, 00:29:26.13\00:29:29.26 accepted the Lord... And after they've died 00:29:29.46\00:29:31.83 and when they raised up in the second resurrection 00:29:32.03\00:29:34.27 our hope would be: "Oh, they're going to change. " 00:29:34.47\00:29:37.37 But when the Lord releases Satan 00:29:37.77\00:29:40.68 we see that all of those who came up in the 2nd resurrection, 00:29:40.88\00:29:45.95 the resurrection of condemnation, 00:29:46.15\00:29:48.05 there was no change of heart. 00:29:48.45\00:29:50.55 They would never have been happy in heaven. 00:29:50.75\00:29:52.75 And so then we will be fully convinced 00:29:53.15\00:29:57.26 that God's judgments were absolutely perfect. 00:29:57.66\00:30:01.56 You know, it just continues on because in Matthew chapter 24 00:30:01.96\00:30:04.93 Jesus was saying: Be careful that you're not deceived. " 00:30:05.33\00:30:09.40 That's right. Three or four times there in Matthew. 00:30:09.60\00:30:11.64 And then you notice in Revelation I think it's 20 00:30:11.94\00:30:15.24 verse 8 it says as soon as Christ brings him back to life 00:30:15.64\00:30:20.12 as it were out of the prison house 00:30:20.32\00:30:21.98 brings him back he goes out to do what? 00:30:22.18\00:30:24.05 To deceive. Continue the same work that he did before. 00:30:24.25\00:30:28.22 It says right now: "And he shall go out to deceive the nations. " 00:30:28.62\00:30:31.66 So he just does the same work, proving once again 00:30:32.06\00:30:35.10 that God is correct in His judgment. 00:30:35.30\00:30:37.50 Everything He does is correct. 00:30:37.70\00:30:39.17 The enemy is doing the same thing. 00:30:39.37\00:30:41.60 And there's a prophecy that needs to be fulfilled. 00:30:42.10\00:30:44.67 I'm going to just answer this question in two points. 00:30:44.87\00:30:46.61 You know, when Satan... when Lucifer was cast out 00:30:46.81\00:30:49.48 he exalted himself the Bible says. 00:30:49.68\00:30:52.41 He made the claim: "I will be, I will be, I will be like 00:30:52.61\00:30:54.98 the Most High. " The Lord gave a prophecy 00:30:55.18\00:30:59.62 through the prophet Ezekiel. He said that Lucifer was 00:30:59.82\00:31:03.06 perfect from the way... from the day he was created 00:31:03.26\00:31:07.03 until iniquity was found in him. 00:31:07.43\00:31:08.76 But then he said to him in Ezekiel 28 verse 18 00:31:08.80\00:31:14.00 he says - speaking about his end - 00:31:14.20\00:31:16.77 everyone's going to witness Lucifer's end. 00:31:16.97\00:31:18.61 Everyone is going to witness Satan's end. 00:31:18.81\00:31:20.61 So for that to occur he has to be released 00:31:20.81\00:31:24.75 at the end of the thousand year because this has yet to be 00:31:24.95\00:31:26.82 fulfilled. He says: "Therefore I have brought forth 00:31:27.02\00:31:30.15 fire from your midst that devoured you 00:31:30.35\00:31:33.19 and I turned you to ashes upon the earth 00:31:33.39\00:31:35.32 in the sight of all who saw you. 00:31:35.52\00:31:37.09 All who knew you from among the people 00:31:37.49\00:31:39.43 are astonished at you. You have become a horror 00:31:39.63\00:31:42.26 and shall be no more forever. " 00:31:42.46\00:31:44.33 That's yet to be fulfilled. 00:31:44.53\00:31:45.87 And at the end of the thousand years that will be fulfilled. 00:31:45.93\00:31:48.14 But one last thing that's even more powerful than that. 00:31:48.34\00:31:50.17 Satan had claimed ownership. Adam gave over 00:31:50.57\00:31:54.38 the dominion of the earth to Satan 00:31:54.58\00:31:56.88 so he considers himself the one who owns everything 00:31:57.28\00:32:00.28 on the earth. He's in charge of the wickedness, the sin, 00:32:00.48\00:32:02.25 the crime. But in the Year of Jubilee 00:32:02.45\00:32:05.12 when the slave is set free 00:32:05.32\00:32:07.22 the land is returned to its rightful owner. 00:32:07.62\00:32:10.03 And Satan will witness the land - the earth - 00:32:10.43\00:32:13.19 being returned to its rightful owner, God, 00:32:13.40\00:32:15.36 and all the slaves of sin being finally set free. 00:32:15.56\00:32:18.17 That happens at the end of the thousand years. 00:32:19.10\00:32:20.84 Did we give you the reference for that, the reference there? 00:32:21.04\00:32:23.87 Revelation 20 for the thousand years. 00:32:24.07\00:32:26.74 I don't know if we've given a reference. 00:32:26.94\00:32:28.28 So Revelation 20. We didn't give a reference. 00:32:28.34\00:32:29.98 Yes, there in Revelation chapter 20 I do have good news 00:32:30.38\00:32:34.18 concerning that time of release. 00:32:34.38\00:32:35.72 It says in Revelation 20:3: 00:32:35.75\00:32:37.59 "He must be loosed for a little season. " 00:32:37.79\00:32:41.36 So, you know, you're talking about 1,000 years 00:32:41.56\00:32:43.76 but then he's loosed for "a little season. " 00:32:43.96\00:32:46.19 Amen. All right. Thank you. 00:32:46.39\00:32:48.70 That's pretty neat. Every- body has a different perspective 00:32:48.90\00:32:52.37 but when you put it together it comes to one really good 00:32:52.57\00:32:55.27 clear point. I have another question. 00:32:55.47\00:32:58.01 Right before that you saw me stand up 00:32:58.21\00:32:59.74 and say I was giving money. That really wasn't for a tip. 00:32:59.94\00:33:03.04 That was for... to buy new eyeglasses. 00:33:03.35\00:33:05.71 Oh, ho, ho, ho, ho. OK, now we'll get back to this one. 00:33:05.91\00:33:09.05 OK. Here's a good question. It says: Is it OK if we are 00:33:09.25\00:33:12.75 supportive of our grandchildren and attend their activities 00:33:12.95\00:33:16.66 such as ball games on Friday nights or Sabbath? 00:33:16.86\00:33:19.76 You love your grandkids. I've got 8 of them. 00:33:20.16\00:33:21.96 Love their ears off. I mean, they're wonderful kids 00:33:22.36\00:33:24.97 so I like to support them all I can. 00:33:25.17\00:33:28.04 This question is do we love them enough to support them 00:33:28.44\00:33:31.74 on their activities if it's involved on the Sabbath. 00:33:32.24\00:33:35.78 A better question is do you love them enough to 00:33:35.98\00:33:37.71 give them a right example? 00:33:37.91\00:33:39.25 Isaiah 58:13-14 "If thou turn away thy foot 00:33:39.65\00:33:42.68 from the Sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on My holy day 00:33:42.88\00:33:45.22 and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, 00:33:45.42\00:33:47.76 honorable, and shalt honor Him, not doing thine own ways 00:33:47.96\00:33:50.39 nor finding thine own pleasure or speaking thine own words 00:33:50.59\00:33:53.19 then shalt thou delight thyself in the Lord 00:33:53.40\00:33:55.06 and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the 00:33:55.26\00:33:57.50 earth and feast upon the in- heritance of Jacob thy father 00:33:57.70\00:33:59.57 for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it. " 00:33:59.77\00:34:01.90 There's no equivocation, no vacillation, no hesitation. 00:34:02.10\00:34:05.87 You've gotta serve the Lord. A lot of people have died 00:34:06.57\00:34:09.11 trying to keep the Sabbath. A ball game, no little ball game 00:34:09.31\00:34:11.75 keep you out of the kingdom. All right; all right! 00:34:11.95\00:34:14.52 Good. And it's not about not loving your grandchildren 00:34:15.32\00:34:18.09 but they need to see an example. 00:34:18.29\00:34:20.12 I was in a situation when I was about 16... 00:34:20.52\00:34:23.09 15, 16 years old... I was down, invited to go down 00:34:23.29\00:34:26.03 South with a whole lot of folk that didn't keep the Sabbath. 00:34:26.23\00:34:28.40 And I remember they woke up on Sabbath morning. 00:34:28.60\00:34:30.93 There was no one to tell me not to go with them. 00:34:31.13\00:34:32.97 The lady who had raised me in the Adventist church 00:34:33.17\00:34:34.54 had already died. I was... I had no one to tell me not to. 00:34:34.74\00:34:38.74 This Sabbath morning they said: "We're going to have a picnic. " 00:34:39.14\00:34:41.94 And since I went with this family that invited me there 00:34:42.14\00:34:45.31 when the time came - they had all the picnic baskets 00:34:45.51\00:34:48.78 ready, I'm 15, 16 years old, 00:34:48.98\00:34:51.69 And when they said: "Everybody get in the car" 00:34:51.89\00:34:53.79 I said: "You know, it's the Sabbath. 00:34:53.99\00:34:56.62 I'll be here when you get back. " 00:34:56.83\00:34:58.16 Hmmm. I'm in a stranger's house. 00:34:58.19\00:35:00.23 They took me down South to visit with their family. 00:35:00.63\00:35:03.73 And they said: "What do you mean this is the Sabbath? " 00:35:04.13\00:35:06.30 "This is the Sabbath. I'm going to stay here 00:35:06.50\00:35:09.40 at your house and I'm going to honor the Sabbath. 00:35:09.60\00:35:11.04 I'll be here when you get back. " 00:35:11.24\00:35:12.57 And I looked back on that and I thought to myself: 00:35:12.81\00:35:14.81 "Wow! I'm in THEIR house. 00:35:15.01\00:35:17.61 I'm a long way from home. I'm just a teenager. 00:35:17.81\00:35:20.72 Who doesn't want to have fun on the Sabbath? " 00:35:20.92\00:35:22.88 And I stood up then and said: "I won't do it. " 00:35:23.08\00:35:25.45 And you know, I believe that that left an impression 00:35:25.95\00:35:28.32 on them that: "Yes, when it comes to loving 00:35:28.52\00:35:31.83 we've got to love the Lord first... " Amen! 00:35:32.03\00:35:33.90 "and then leave the examples to tell of our love for God. " 00:35:34.10\00:35:37.43 Maybe we should ask, then, for our viewers 00:35:37.83\00:35:40.70 why can't we attend activities or watch ball games 00:35:41.10\00:35:46.71 or basketball... why can't we do that 00:35:46.91\00:35:49.48 on the Sabbath? They said Friday evening 00:35:49.68\00:35:52.31 to Saturday evening... which is described in the Bible 00:35:52.51\00:35:55.15 as the Sabbath. So why can't anybody do that? 00:35:55.35\00:35:58.72 What's wrong with attending events like that on Sabbath? 00:35:58.92\00:36:01.86 You know, Bro. Danny, I was thinking here 00:36:02.06\00:36:04.33 you know even in our home - raised up - we were challenged 00:36:04.49\00:36:07.86 about proper Sabbath observance because we liked to play sports. 00:36:08.06\00:36:12.33 And we knew we weren't sup- posed to be playing basketball 00:36:12.73\00:36:15.77 and doing different things, but I noticed that sometime 00:36:15.97\00:36:18.21 if I thought mom and dad weren't looking 00:36:18.41\00:36:20.68 and there's a basketball laying out there in the grass... 00:36:20.88\00:36:22.84 It wasn't hurting anybody... it was just there 00:36:23.04\00:36:24.51 and I walked by it I think the enemy said: 00:36:24.71\00:36:27.18 "Pick it up and shoot it; see if you can make one. " 00:36:27.38\00:36:28.92 I'd pick one up, shoot it, and then it'd be like the 00:36:29.12\00:36:30.75 Holy Spirit'd say: "That's not what you're supposed to do. " 00:36:30.95\00:36:32.69 We find ourselves confused on 00:36:33.09\00:36:35.76 social gatherings on the Sabbath. 00:36:37.26\00:36:38.93 We find ourselves confused attending a lot of 00:36:39.13\00:36:42.53 family get-togethers and all kinds of things 00:36:42.73\00:36:45.07 that God said on specifically the seventh day He blessed, 00:36:45.27\00:36:48.80 He sanctified, He set it apart. It belongs to Him. 00:36:49.00\00:36:51.27 And I found this works in my life very simple: 00:36:51.67\00:36:53.98 It's His day, and the only thing that He wants us to do 00:36:54.38\00:36:57.68 is have communion with Him and do those things that 00:36:57.88\00:36:59.85 please Him on that day. 00:37:00.05\00:37:02.22 It's not about family and doing other things. 00:37:02.42\00:37:04.02 He gives you six days to do that. 00:37:04.22\00:37:05.55 This day belongs to Him and only godly things 00:37:05.82\00:37:08.46 should be done on the seventh-day Sabbath. 00:37:08.66\00:37:10.76 You referenced there Genesis 2 and verse 2 00:37:11.16\00:37:16.83 where He says: "On the seventh day... " This was at creation... 00:37:17.03\00:37:20.00 "God ended that which He had done 00:37:20.40\00:37:23.44 and He rested on the seventh day from all His work 00:37:23.64\00:37:25.81 which He had done. And He blessed the seventh day 00:37:26.01\00:37:28.41 and He sanctified the seventh day. " 00:37:28.61\00:37:30.61 The... In this scripture pas- sage, in these two scriptures, 00:37:31.31\00:37:35.38 the seventh day is mentioned three times. 00:37:35.58\00:37:37.49 He blessed it; He sanctified it; He rested on it. 00:37:37.89\00:37:40.99 To sanctify means to set some- thing apart for holy purposes. 00:37:41.19\00:37:45.33 So God instituted the Sabbath right in the Garden 00:37:45.73\00:37:49.96 of Gethsemane... Gethsemane? The Garden of Eden. 00:37:50.17\00:37:53.34 And He did it so that it would be a joy. 00:37:53.74\00:37:57.31 Jesus said the Sabbath wasn't made... Man wasn't made 00:37:57.51\00:38:01.88 for the Sabbath. The Sabbath was made for mankind. 00:38:02.08\00:38:04.88 So God knew, when He gave the Ten Commandments, 00:38:05.48\00:38:09.22 in His fourth commandment He said: "Remember 00:38:09.62\00:38:13.09 the Sabbath day. " You can't remember something 00:38:13.29\00:38:15.62 that you haven't forgotten or haven't already been told about. 00:38:15.82\00:38:18.36 God knew we would forget and that we'd work ourselves 00:38:18.56\00:38:20.90 to death and that we would forget about Him. 00:38:21.10\00:38:24.20 So He set aside a temple in time 00:38:24.40\00:38:27.67 so that we could have special time with Him, 00:38:27.87\00:38:31.51 special time with our family. 00:38:31.71\00:38:33.48 The Sabbath is a blessing, and when you understand God's 00:38:33.88\00:38:37.68 covenant love - and we're going to be talking about that 00:38:37.88\00:38:40.65 tomorrow morning, I hope you'll be joining us... 00:38:40.85\00:38:42.45 But when you under- stand God's covenant love 00:38:42.65\00:38:45.05 and understand that God will help us... 00:38:45.45\00:38:48.79 I mean, it's a promise... His commandments are promises 00:38:48.99\00:38:51.76 that He will help us to keep this. 00:38:52.16\00:38:54.23 And when we're in covenant relationship with the Lord 00:38:54.43\00:38:57.17 you can't wait for the Sabbath. 00:38:57.57\00:39:00.04 Amen. 00:39:00.24\00:39:01.57 Speaking of sanctified - I'm in Exodus 31:13- 00:39:02.00\00:39:04.67 "Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep 00:39:04.87\00:39:06.68 for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations 00:39:07.08\00:39:10.35 that you may know that I am the Lord who sanctifies you. " 00:39:10.55\00:39:14.18 So not only is the day sanctified 00:39:14.58\00:39:16.52 but it is a sign of a sanctification process 00:39:16.72\00:39:19.55 between God and man. 00:39:19.75\00:39:21.09 And to do otherwise is to be outside of that sanctification 00:39:21.42\00:39:24.16 process. God NEEDS the time with us. 00:39:24.36\00:39:26.70 He desires the time with us, and more than that 00:39:26.90\00:39:29.26 we NEED the time with Him. 00:39:29.46\00:39:31.83 Yes. Amen; amen. OK... thank you. 00:39:32.03\00:39:35.00 Will there be absolutely no night in heaven 00:39:35.67\00:39:39.27 as Revelation tells us? OR is this only in the city 00:39:39.47\00:39:43.68 of New Jerusalem? 00:39:43.88\00:39:45.71 Personally... Can I lay it out here? 00:39:47.98\00:39:51.25 I believe it is in the New Jerusalem. 00:39:51.65\00:39:53.66 When the New Jerusalem comes down to earth 00:39:53.86\00:39:56.79 there's going to be no more night there. 00:39:57.39\00:39:59.26 No more night in heaven, but when it comes down to earth, 00:39:59.46\00:40:01.63 when we go out into the earth, it says that 00:40:01.83\00:40:04.43 we're going to come in and still be worshiping 00:40:04.63\00:40:09.84 every Sabbath and on the new moons we would come in. 00:40:10.24\00:40:13.01 So I think that there will be night and day 00:40:13.21\00:40:15.64 on the new earth but not in the city of Jerusalem 00:40:15.84\00:40:18.45 because the Son and the Father are the light thereof. 00:40:18.65\00:40:23.05 That's right. I can't add any more to that. 00:40:24.29\00:40:26.55 In the New Jerusalem in heaven there'll be no night there. 00:40:27.06\00:40:30.43 In the earth we will revert back to the seasons 00:40:30.83\00:40:33.93 before sin, and Jesus established the sun, 00:40:34.13\00:40:38.13 moon, stars for the seasons. 00:40:38.33\00:40:41.10 So we will still have the seasons but as it would have 00:40:41.60\00:40:44.21 been before sin. And that's in the new earth. 00:40:44.41\00:40:47.78 OK... all right. 00:40:47.98\00:40:50.05 Here's a question; I'm glad you all are answering it 00:40:50.58\00:40:53.52 and not me. I answered it one time and I got in trouble 00:40:53.72\00:40:56.05 on live television. A scripture that says 00:40:56.45\00:40:58.85 that "two in the field: one was taken, one was left behind. 00:40:59.05\00:41:03.49 Two men in a bed: one was taken, one was left behind. " 00:41:03.69\00:41:06.70 And I said: "Well, if two men's in a bed 00:41:06.90\00:41:08.86 I doubt either one of them are going. " 00:41:09.06\00:41:10.67 So... I got some letters from people and phone calls 00:41:11.03\00:41:16.40 that I was "phobia" of some kind... I'm not sure. 00:41:16.60\00:41:19.54 But anyway. So I'm going to let you guys answer that one 00:41:19.74\00:41:22.81 and stay out of it. What does that mean? 00:41:23.01\00:41:25.01 And then it says: Which one was left behind 00:41:25.21\00:41:27.82 and which one was taken? 00:41:28.02\00:41:29.35 If two men in a field or two people in a field, 00:41:29.38\00:41:31.92 because I know I've heard some folk are saying 00:41:32.12\00:41:34.19 "Well, the one that's left behind... " You know 00:41:34.39\00:41:37.23 both sides of that. So you tell us. 00:41:37.43\00:41:39.29 I'll let the theologians on either side answer me 00:41:39.49\00:41:41.63 because they're looking up their scriptures. 00:41:41.83\00:41:43.47 But here's what I have to say about that. 00:41:43.67\00:41:46.20 It doesn't matter to me which one is which. 00:41:46.60\00:41:51.04 I've heard wonderful pastors, theologians, argue 00:41:51.24\00:41:55.38 that the taken are the ones who go to heaven. 00:41:55.58\00:41:57.51 The ones who are left here on the earth are the ones 00:41:57.71\00:41:59.68 who are destroyed by the brightness of His coming. 00:41:59.98\00:42:02.42 Then I've heard people turn around and say just 00:42:02.62\00:42:04.49 the opposite thing. All I want to be 00:42:04.69\00:42:07.49 is on the right train that's going to heaven... 00:42:07.69\00:42:09.62 whether that's the ones that's taken or the one's that's left. 00:42:09.82\00:42:12.83 Amen. We've kicked this back and forth. 00:42:13.43\00:42:15.76 I think Pastor John and I have certainly kicked this 00:42:15.96\00:42:17.53 back and forth. When you go to the Greek - 00:42:17.73\00:42:20.04 and I think Shelley's point is very very important - 00:42:20.24\00:42:22.44 the fact that you are alive with a person doesn't mean 00:42:22.64\00:42:25.47 that you're alive with Jesus. What this is trying to say 00:42:25.67\00:42:27.91 is that because a husband wife are together 00:42:28.11\00:42:30.71 husband can't go for the wife, wife can't go for the husband. 00:42:30.91\00:42:33.05 Each person goes as an individual 00:42:33.25\00:42:35.08 and that's the important thing. Whether you're taken or left 00:42:35.28\00:42:37.59 as long as the gate closes behind you 00:42:37.79\00:42:40.96 you're in the right place, and that's what is important 00:42:41.16\00:42:43.29 I think about that scripture. 00:42:43.49\00:42:44.83 But you know there's a Bible truth here that we cannot miss. 00:42:45.23\00:42:49.36 If we miss this, we're setting ourself up 00:42:50.13\00:42:52.17 for the thousand year millennial reign, you know, 00:42:52.37\00:42:55.20 here on earth. Because I Thessalonians says you know 00:42:55.40\00:42:58.37 when Jesus comes the dead in Christ rise first. 00:42:58.57\00:43:00.38 We which are alive and remain will be caught up 00:43:00.78\00:43:02.84 to meet Him in the air. 00:43:03.04\00:43:04.38 II Thessalonians says the wicked are struck dead 00:43:04.48\00:43:06.35 by the brightness of His coming. 00:43:06.55\00:43:07.88 Two in a field: one is saved, one is lost. 00:43:08.12\00:43:10.52 One's going up to meet Him in the air; 00:43:10.72\00:43:12.05 the other is struck dead. Jeremiah is very clear 00:43:12.22\00:43:14.56 on that what the earth will be as we talked about 00:43:14.76\00:43:16.93 the thousand years. So there is a Bible truth there 00:43:17.13\00:43:20.30 that we have to look at and examine to say: 00:43:20.50\00:43:22.86 "This is what the Bible teaches. " 00:43:23.06\00:43:24.53 One's going up; the other is struck dead. 00:43:24.73\00:43:27.24 Nothing happens for that thousand years 00:43:27.44\00:43:28.80 to the wicked. So then what do you have? 00:43:29.00\00:43:30.61 It simply says: "Two in the field; two in the bed. " 00:43:30.81\00:43:33.38 Husband and wife you mentioned. One might be saved 00:43:33.68\00:43:35.81 one might be lost. 'Cause we get to heaven by our own commitment 00:43:36.01\00:43:38.55 not on the coat tail of someone else or because someone said. 00:43:38.75\00:43:41.68 It's our own personal commitment to Jesus Christ. 00:43:42.08\00:43:44.72 So I look at it there's a lot of different ways you can go. 00:43:45.12\00:43:47.29 Say: "Yeah, I want to make sure I'm the one that's going up 00:43:47.49\00:43:49.46 and not down or struck dead. " 00:43:49.66\00:43:51.19 But the whole thing is: in every aspect, every question 00:43:51.69\00:43:55.26 that is asked, there's truth that can be found 00:43:55.46\00:43:59.07 in the Word of God, and we cannot bypass that 00:43:59.27\00:44:02.00 to be pleasing, you know, to someone else 00:44:02.20\00:44:04.31 or maybe to get along with someone else. 00:44:04.51\00:44:06.14 There's a truth: one will go, the other will remain... 00:44:06.54\00:44:09.78 but not alive... they're dead. 00:44:09.98\00:44:12.55 There's a whole difference there. 00:44:12.75\00:44:14.08 That's the whole different thing we talked for the thousand-year 00:44:14.28\00:44:16.42 millennium. And here's the context of that whole thing. 00:44:16.62\00:44:18.39 Thank you for making that point clear. 00:44:18.59\00:44:20.56 Matthew and Luke coordinate this truth together. 00:44:20.96\00:44:24.53 In Matthew we find Noah is used as the example, 00:44:25.29\00:44:29.20 the context. The Bible says: "As it was in the days of 00:44:29.40\00:44:33.20 Noah... " What happened? "for as in the days before 00:44:33.40\00:44:35.80 the flood... " Matthew 24 verse 38... 00:44:36.00\00:44:37.87 "they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage 00:44:38.44\00:44:40.78 until the day that Noah entered the ark. 00:44:40.98\00:44:42.61 And did not know until the flood came and 00:44:42.91\00:44:45.28 took them all away. 00:44:45.48\00:44:48.05 So also will the coming of the Son of Man be. " 00:44:48.35\00:44:50.75 Then he used the two men in the field, the two women grinding 00:44:50.95\00:44:53.05 at the mill. But now the question is asked: 00:44:53.25\00:44:55.29 the flood came and took them away. Did the flood take them 00:44:55.49\00:44:57.83 to safety or destruction? 00:44:58.03\00:44:59.59 So wherever the flood took them, the ones that were taken 00:45:00.53\00:45:03.57 were taken in destruction. To support that Luke adds his 00:45:03.77\00:45:07.00 portion. Luke 17 verse 35 or 36: 00:45:07.20\00:45:13.07 "Two men will be in the field; one will be taken 00:45:13.27\00:45:15.58 and the other left. And they answered and said to Him: 00:45:15.78\00:45:18.85 'Where Lord? ' So He said to them: 00:45:19.05\00:45:21.28 wherever the body is there the eagle will be gathered 00:45:21.48\00:45:25.55 together. " If you want to find out where they were taken 00:45:25.75\00:45:29.12 look for where the eagles are. 00:45:29.32\00:45:30.66 That's where... They're taken to destruction. 00:45:31.46\00:45:33.86 They're not taken in safety. 00:45:34.06\00:45:37.30 That's why Paul says: "We which are alive and remain 00:45:37.50\00:45:40.07 shall be caught up together with them. " 00:45:40.47\00:45:42.40 But the challenge is: the Greek for taken is perilambano 00:45:42.74\00:45:46.88 which means gather to yourself. 00:45:47.28\00:45:49.31 That's where the challenge is in the exegesis of that text. 00:45:49.51\00:45:52.85 That if you follow John's logic - which is solid - 00:45:53.05\00:45:56.48 the taken is taken in destruc- tion... except he flips it. 00:45:56.69\00:45:59.35 He uses a term that means gather to himself. 00:45:59.55\00:46:02.36 So the taken there is taken to himself. 00:46:02.66\00:46:05.76 So there is some give and take. 00:46:05.96\00:46:09.40 And that's why I think Shelley's point is so pertinent 00:46:09.60\00:46:12.07 and I co-sign it because the burden is 00:46:12.27\00:46:14.70 that one cannot go for the other. Each man must go for 00:46:14.90\00:46:18.07 himself. Whether it's taken to destruction 00:46:18.27\00:46:20.01 or taken to the bosom of Christ 00:46:20.21\00:46:22.14 you've gotta go one for one with Jesus. 00:46:22.34\00:46:25.41 This has been tossed around for a while. 00:46:26.72\00:46:29.82 John 14 says Jesus said 00:46:31.02\00:46:35.79 "I will go and I will come back... " 00:46:36.86\00:46:40.43 He says... "and I will receive you unto Myself. " 00:46:40.63\00:46:43.67 That's that word perilambano... 00:46:43.87\00:46:45.57 the same word that's used, taken. 00:46:45.97\00:46:48.80 So the word taken means received, gathered to Himself. 00:46:49.00\00:46:52.87 So the word took in Matthew 24 00:46:53.27\00:46:58.45 is not the same Greek word for taken. 00:46:58.65\00:47:01.82 They're two different words. 00:47:02.02\00:47:03.35 So we have here these two different ideas presented. 00:47:03.59\00:47:06.99 And what you have to look in Matthew 24 00:47:07.39\00:47:12.76 is that it says: "Watch, therefore... " 00:47:12.96\00:47:15.96 It is repeated several times. 00:47:16.36\00:47:18.70 What we are to do is watch, therefore, 00:47:19.50\00:47:23.27 so that you are not taken unawares 00:47:23.47\00:47:26.31 that Jesus is coming so that when He comes 00:47:26.51\00:47:29.41 you will go with Him. 00:47:29.71\00:47:31.21 I can go further with this. I can even give you 00:47:31.61\00:47:34.32 Testimonies to Ministers page 234-239 00:47:35.12\00:47:39.85 Ellen G. White addresses this issue and says: 00:47:40.06\00:47:43.43 "One is taken, and the name is retained in the Book of Life. " 00:47:43.63\00:47:47.73 So my understanding is that the one taken 00:47:48.83\00:47:52.07 is the one that is received by Christ into heaven. 00:47:52.47\00:47:56.10 Well, I think what I get out of this is 00:47:56.50\00:47:59.31 you want to be prepared to meet the Lord 00:47:59.71\00:48:02.84 because some of us are going to make it to heaven 00:48:03.14\00:48:06.35 and some will be struck down by His brightness. 00:48:06.55\00:48:08.75 So there's two different... you can look at it both ways. 00:48:08.95\00:48:13.46 The important thing is where will we be - that's right - 00:48:13.66\00:48:16.19 at the second coming. Or when we die, are we ready 00:48:16.39\00:48:18.79 to meet Jesus. We only have about nine more minutes. 00:48:18.99\00:48:21.70 Have we got time for another question? We do. 00:48:21.90\00:48:23.23 I think this one kind of sums up everything. 00:48:23.26\00:48:25.40 Briefly describe what you would recommend to Christians 00:48:25.60\00:48:28.27 for how to prepare for Christ's second coming. 00:48:28.47\00:48:30.61 Micah 6:8: "He has showed thee, O man, 00:48:32.77\00:48:35.11 what is good and what doth the Lord require of thee 00:48:35.31\00:48:37.78 but to do justly, love mercy, 00:48:37.98\00:48:40.95 walk humbly with thy God. " 00:48:41.35\00:48:43.49 Amen. 00:48:43.69\00:48:45.39 I Thessalonians 00:48:46.55\00:48:48.36 3 and verse 12 and 13 00:48:49.82\00:48:53.26 Paul writes to the Thessalonians. He says: 00:48:53.56\00:48:56.03 "May the Lord make you increase and abound in love... " 00:48:56.23\00:49:01.07 Who's doing the action? It's the Lord. 00:49:01.27\00:49:02.90 "to one another and to all just as we did to you 00:49:03.74\00:49:07.24 so that... " for the purpose of... 00:49:07.64\00:49:10.15 "so that He may establish your hearts blameless 00:49:10.35\00:49:14.88 in holiness before our God 00:49:15.08\00:49:18.59 and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. " 00:49:18.79\00:49:21.89 I believe that if we want to be ready 00:49:22.62\00:49:25.39 to be received into heaven - we really want to be ready - 00:49:25.79\00:49:30.00 we need to open up our hearts. Romans 5:5 says 00:49:30.20\00:49:33.13 God will pour His love into our hearts 00:49:33.34\00:49:35.44 by the power of the Holy Spirit. 00:49:35.64\00:49:37.27 This isn't a syrupy, sappy, sweet love. 00:49:37.47\00:49:42.38 This is a self-sacrificing love; it's divine love. 00:49:42.58\00:49:46.21 And as, you know, God IS love 00:49:46.41\00:49:49.68 so the more we receive that love into our heart 00:49:49.98\00:49:53.66 the more we become like God. 00:49:53.86\00:49:55.56 We become self-sacrificing and He will establish us 00:49:55.76\00:50:00.03 blameless in holiness. 00:50:00.23\00:50:01.56 Anyone else? No, honestly, we missed the question. 00:50:03.40\00:50:06.60 Kenny and I were talking. What was the question? 00:50:06.80\00:50:08.80 Oh! Well... that's your tough luck now! 00:50:09.00\00:50:10.97 You've gotta pay attention. 00:50:11.17\00:50:12.87 Should we give them another chance? 00:50:13.07\00:50:15.58 Yes, we'll give them one more chance. 00:50:15.78\00:50:17.51 I wasn't listening so she'll read it again 00:50:17.71\00:50:19.81 so you can have another chance. 00:50:20.02\00:50:21.35 Confession is good for the soul! That's good... that's right. 00:50:22.08\00:50:24.52 I was going to expose him but he went ahead and exposed me 00:50:24.72\00:50:26.89 so we've both been exposed. Sorry! 00:50:27.09\00:50:30.26 Briefly... You didn't fall asleep like C.A. Murray did 00:50:30.46\00:50:33.36 before a sermon one day. 00:50:33.56\00:50:34.90 But I won't tell that on live television. 00:50:35.30\00:50:37.37 Thanks. Briefly describe what you would recommend 00:50:38.10\00:50:41.97 to Christians for how to prepare for Christ's second coming. 00:50:42.17\00:50:45.74 Daily relationship. 00:50:49.28\00:50:50.85 Daily relationship. 00:50:51.05\00:50:52.51 Um-hmm. 'Cause if you get to the point where you say 00:50:52.71\00:50:54.68 "Well I need to get ready... " You know, one of the things 00:50:54.88\00:50:56.22 that I've heard so often is: "Well I need to get ready; 00:50:56.28\00:50:57.75 I need to get ready. " And every year: "I need to get 00:50:57.95\00:50:59.29 ready; I need to get ready. " Well if that was your attitude 00:50:59.35\00:51:02.19 about vacation you'd never go on vacation. 00:51:02.39\00:51:03.86 Am I making the point clear? Yeah. 00:51:04.83\00:51:06.66 You need to remain ready. 00:51:06.86\00:51:08.63 "Be ye also ready. " 00:51:08.83\00:51:10.17 He didn't say: "Get ye also ready. " He said: 00:51:10.20\00:51:11.53 "Be ye also ready. " 00:51:11.57\00:51:12.90 At such an hour as you think not He's coming. 00:51:13.07\00:51:15.14 So we can't be saying every day: "I need to get ready. " 00:51:15.54\00:51:17.51 Be ready! But you know, the point is, we talk so much about 00:51:17.71\00:51:20.88 the second coming. I don't know if I'll be alive 00:51:21.08\00:51:23.35 at the second coming. I could go tonight. 00:51:23.55\00:51:25.71 So - to your point - we need to be ready. 00:51:26.11\00:51:29.78 It's got to be a day-by-day thing. We can't be saying: 00:51:29.98\00:51:33.25 "Oh, I've got to be ready for Christ's second coming. " 00:51:33.56\00:51:36.26 I've got to be ready if Jesus came for me today 00:51:36.46\00:51:40.53 'cause no man is promised tomorrow. 00:51:40.73\00:51:43.63 You know, even being ready for me... And you read it a lot 00:51:43.83\00:51:46.94 in the Spirit of Prophecy, read a lot in the Bible... 00:51:47.14\00:51:48.84 if we live in the judgment hour we are supposed to be 00:51:49.04\00:51:52.81 afflicting our souls. We're supposed to be doing 00:51:53.01\00:51:55.94 some self-examination of how we stand 00:51:56.14\00:51:59.31 with our heavenly Father. 00:51:59.51\00:52:00.85 And if we're all honest, we know basically how we stand. 00:52:01.02\00:52:05.25 We know if we're holding on to this, we know 00:52:05.45\00:52:07.46 if we're going this direction or that. 00:52:07.66\00:52:09.32 If you're really honest. Self-examination 00:52:09.52\00:52:11.63 means confessing our sins. 00:52:11.83\00:52:13.46 We must in this judgment hour 00:52:13.66\00:52:16.03 be sending, as we confess our sins, up to the judgment. 00:52:16.23\00:52:20.40 They have to be sent there to be taken care of, 00:52:20.60\00:52:22.77 to be forgiven. The blood covers right now 00:52:22.97\00:52:25.17 or they'll come back to get us. So we need Jesus 00:52:25.57\00:52:28.41 to cover our life, cover our sins. So we pray, 00:52:28.61\00:52:31.11 we send them to the heavenly sanctuary 00:52:31.31\00:52:33.38 that they can be forgiven right now 00:52:33.78\00:52:36.58 or they will come back and meet us in the judgment. 00:52:36.79\00:52:38.92 So I just, myself every day... we talk about Bible study 00:52:39.12\00:52:42.46 and prayer and the love of Christ and preparing 00:52:42.66\00:52:44.36 and reading the Word and doing worship... all good. 00:52:44.56\00:52:47.16 We have to be doing it. 00:52:47.36\00:52:48.73 But I really have to look. And I don't want to look at 00:52:48.93\00:52:51.47 anything or anybody. 00:52:51.67\00:52:53.00 I see one example for me is Jesus Christ. 00:52:53.37\00:52:55.34 I look at Him; He's the One I gauge by. 00:52:55.54\00:52:58.17 And every time I look at Him and I start gauging my life 00:52:58.37\00:53:01.18 by Him I see how short I come 00:53:01.38\00:53:04.51 in character from being like Jesus. 00:53:04.91\00:53:06.95 But it doesn't depress me; it drives me to His feet - Amen! 00:53:07.15\00:53:11.22 and I say: "Oh, Lord, You can do this thing... 00:53:11.42\00:53:13.25 I can't do it on my own so please help me. " Amen! 00:53:13.46\00:53:15.99 Because it's a character thing that we're looking at 00:53:16.19\00:53:18.36 right now that needs to be like Christ. 00:53:18.56\00:53:20.10 And I want to add this because I know you 00:53:20.30\00:53:22.26 and you're a very joyous person. 00:53:22.46\00:53:23.80 We're talking about afflicting the soul. That is a time of 00:53:23.90\00:53:26.63 self-examination. But I John 1:8-9 says that 00:53:26.84\00:53:30.21 "When we confess our sins He is faithful and just 00:53:30.41\00:53:33.24 to forgive us of our sins and cleanse us from all 00:53:33.44\00:53:35.68 unrighteousness. " So it is not that you're running around 00:53:35.88\00:53:39.48 flogging yourself - afflicting your soul. 00:53:39.68\00:53:41.42 It's that the joy of the Lord becomes your strength 00:53:41.82\00:53:44.35 when you know you're forgiven. 00:53:44.55\00:53:45.89 And so you know I think Christians should be the most 00:53:45.92\00:53:48.62 joyous people on earth. 00:53:48.82\00:53:50.83 But there is that daily thing of self-examination. 00:53:51.03\00:53:54.63 Because if we want to repent it's more than 00:53:54.83\00:53:58.87 just saying: "Oh Lord, forgive me. " 00:53:59.17\00:54:01.10 It's recognizing our sin, letting God... godly sorrow. 00:54:01.30\00:54:06.51 The Holy Spirit brings repentance. 00:54:06.71\00:54:09.11 Then we confess our sin, and that's the clearinghouse 00:54:09.31\00:54:12.18 of our conscience. Then we must receive His forgiveness. 00:54:12.38\00:54:17.39 And then we pray for the gift of repentance. 00:54:17.79\00:54:21.22 Acts 5:32 says that God gives us the gift of repentance 00:54:21.42\00:54:25.79 to turn us around to come right back to Him. 00:54:25.99\00:54:29.40 Yvonne. Yeah, and then we have to... and you've all kind 00:54:29.80\00:54:32.80 of hit on this, and I think this is really important: 00:54:33.00\00:54:35.50 that we have to take our eyes off of ourselves 00:54:35.70\00:54:38.67 and put our eyes on Jesus. So often it's all about us 00:54:39.07\00:54:42.24 and "Oh, I can't do this. " No! Let's just... If we stay 00:54:42.44\00:54:46.11 connected to the power source 00:54:46.31\00:54:48.58 we will have the power to resist sin. 00:54:48.78\00:54:51.25 So by the grace of God we can be confident 00:54:51.45\00:54:54.82 that He that has begun a good work in us 00:54:55.02\00:54:58.56 will be faithful to complete it. That's right. 00:54:58.76\00:55:00.73 What I try to keep in mind is we have two natures. 00:55:00.93\00:55:03.83 We have a spiritual nature and a "beastly" nature, 00:55:04.03\00:55:07.07 a physical nature. And whichever one we feed the most 00:55:07.27\00:55:10.01 is the one that grows. Vonda was talking about earlier 00:55:10.21\00:55:12.87 her watching daytime programs and all of these all the time. 00:55:13.07\00:55:17.51 But when she quit doing that and began to take in the Word 00:55:17.71\00:55:20.48 of God it changed her life. 00:55:20.68\00:55:22.18 So in preparation - for me - it's "What am I taking in? 00:55:22.58\00:55:27.02 What am I watching? What am I listening to? 00:55:27.42\00:55:29.49 What am I talking about in preparation to be like Jesus? " 00:55:29.69\00:55:33.19 Turn your eyes upon Jesus - yes - look full in His wonderful 00:55:33.40\00:55:36.06 face, and the things of earth will grow strangely dim 00:55:36.26\00:55:39.40 in the light of His glory and grace. 00:55:39.60\00:55:41.47 We only have about a minute, and so... and I think that this 00:55:41.67\00:55:44.81 is a good time for prayer. And maybe Pastor C.A. we'll ask you 00:55:45.01\00:55:49.08 to do it. And those of you in the audience, 00:55:49.28\00:55:50.81 those of you at home, it might be a good time to 00:55:51.01\00:55:53.15 say: "Lord... " Kenny talked about self-examination. 00:55:53.35\00:55:56.42 "Lord, where am I? What would You have me to do? " 00:55:56.62\00:55:58.59 And maybe just quickly and quietly re-dedicate your life 00:55:58.99\00:56:03.16 to the Lord. Amen... good. 00:56:03.36\00:56:05.06 Gracious Father, we come to You now with humble hearts 00:56:06.53\00:56:09.23 and yet our hearts are glad. We're glad to know that 00:56:09.63\00:56:12.67 on the other end of this prayer and every prayer 00:56:12.87\00:56:14.84 there is God who loves us with an everlasting love 00:56:15.04\00:56:18.31 and who has commended that love to us in that while we were 00:56:18.71\00:56:21.68 yet sinners Christ died for us. 00:56:21.88\00:56:24.71 So we don't have to beg for Your love... 00:56:25.11\00:56:27.08 You've already given us Your love. 00:56:27.28\00:56:28.98 We don't have to beg for Your mercy 00:56:29.38\00:56:31.29 for we have been recipients of Your mercy. 00:56:31.49\00:56:33.19 We don't have to beg for Your grace 00:56:33.39\00:56:34.96 for You shower Your grace without limit and without end. 00:56:35.36\00:56:38.46 Help us, Lord, now to abide in You. 00:56:38.86\00:56:41.83 For You have said that if we abide in You 00:56:42.03\00:56:44.40 we will bear much fruit. Yes! 00:56:44.60\00:56:48.00 Fruit of righteousness, fruit of salvation, 00:56:48.20\00:56:50.91 fruit of eventual glorification. 00:56:51.31\00:56:53.61 But You've also said: "Without Me you can do nothing. " 00:56:53.81\00:56:56.95 So dear Father, be pleased 00:56:57.45\00:56:59.55 to give us Jesus. Always and only Jesus. 00:56:59.75\00:57:03.32 Inward and outward Jesus. 00:57:03.72\00:57:05.72 Up and down Jesus. 00:57:05.92\00:57:07.29 Surround us with Jesus. 00:57:07.49\00:57:09.32 May it all be not about us 00:57:09.52\00:57:11.43 but about our loving, loyal, and precious Jesus. 00:57:11.63\00:57:15.66 Oh Father, drown us as it were in Jesus. 00:57:15.86\00:57:19.17 Submerge us in Jesus. 00:57:19.37\00:57:21.37 Surround us in Jesus. 00:57:21.57\00:57:23.10 May we live, eat, talk, breathe, sleep, 00:57:23.30\00:57:26.44 wake, walk, Jesus. 00:57:26.64\00:57:29.44 Amen. And may we be pleased on that day 00:57:29.84\00:57:32.28 to see Jesus face to blessed face. 00:57:32.48\00:57:35.22 Oh Father, that is our goal, that is our end. 00:57:35.62\00:57:39.45 That is our commitment and our dedication: 00:57:39.65\00:57:41.89 always and only Jesus. 00:57:42.09\00:57:44.56 And we thank you, dear Father, in Jesus' name, 00:57:44.96\00:57:47.86 Amen. 00:57:48.06\00:57:49.40