Again we bid you good
morning and Happy Sabbath!
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We want to transition
into our worship experience
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for this 2015 Fall Camp Meeting
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by singing one of the
old hymns of the church.
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You know it well. My
hope is built on nothing less
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than? Jesus'
blood and righteousness.
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Jesus' blood and righteousness.
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We want to sing it with
"vivor, " with "verve, "
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with gusto, with an
experience with Jesus Christ.
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My Hope is Built on
Nothing Less. Lisa, if you will.
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Words are on the
screen. Let's sing together.
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Amen! Gracious
Father, how true it is
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that Christ is
the solid rock. Amen!
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Help us, Lord, to
build on that solid rock
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for all other
ground is sinking sand.
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Father, we want
to stand for You.
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We want to stand on You.
We want to stand on Your Word.
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We want to be strong for You.
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We want to be solid
rocks for Jesus in a world
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where everything
is tossed to and fro.
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Make us strong for You.
Bless this worship service.
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Be the honored guest; accept
our prayers and our praise.
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And in exchange for
these, be pleased, dear Lord,
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to give us Your
presence and Your power.
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And we thank you, dear
Father, in Jesus' name,
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Amen. Amen! Amen and amen.
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Amen. Praise the
Lord. You all happy today?
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Amen. You know, Dr. Gilley...
I was going to tell you...
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Aren't you glad to see Dr.
Gilley here? Yes! All right.
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Thank you. It was supposed to...
For our audience it was supposed
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to have been a surprise,
and he came walking out
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to say something to C.A.
while ago so our audience here
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already knew he was here.
We were going to surprise you.
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This was our big surprise.
But you acted surprised again.
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Thank you. Don't we have
a great crowd here today?
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We do. But if I'm
the great surprise
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this is a real
bad deal, you know.
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No it's not. We
love it; we love it.
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They all said they're
happy in the Lord today.
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It reminded me of
something that just happened
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and I haven't gotten to
tell most of you about it.
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And I won't tell
you all the details.
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But I think I'm just going to
start saying "We're all happy.
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We're all happy"
'cause I'll tell you why.
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We found out this week -
and we can't go into detail -
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C.A., you know - but
somewhere in the world
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we have a television station.
I won't tell you which country
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it is, but we found out
that someone broke into it,
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went through our security.
Said they had a right to.
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Went into security,
put in a new transmitter,
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put their own
programs up in the air.
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And we found out about it.
They're running their programs
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so Moses called them
and we talked to them
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and said: "What are you
doing? You can't do this...
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this is illegal. "
And they said: "Oh, no.
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We're all happy
because we put you on, too. "
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Well, we already were on, right?
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So they said:
"No... it's no problem. "
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We said: "No, it's a problem.
You don't break into somewhere
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and put in your own transmitters
and start shooting signals. "
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But they said: "No,
no. You misunderstand.
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We're all happy. " Yeah.
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So you know what? I think
we'll all just be happy. Amen!
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So you husband and wife...
somebody gettin' on to you?
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"Why did you go buy
those three dresses this week?
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You shouldn't. " "It's all
right... we're all happy. "
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Amen. "We're all
happy, honey. It's OK.
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We're fine... we're
happy. " That'll work, won't it?
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Ladies? That'll
work; that'll work.
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Gentlemen: that'll work.
"Why were you out so late?
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You were supposed... "
"Honey, we're all happy.
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Don't worry
about it; it's good. "
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All right...
we're happy in the Lord.
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Praise the Lord. Speaking
of being happy in the Lord,
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you happily for about
30 years have made a trip.
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At least once or twice
a year. Tell us about it.
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Well, we go to Israel each
year, and some people have asked
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if we're going this
year. And "Oh yeah. "
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You know, we'll be leaving
here on the 15th. It'll be the
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option 1. Leaving from
4 or 5 different places
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in the country. People can
go from just about anywhere.
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And this is our
Bible Enrichment Tour.
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It'll be my 29th tour.
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And so we're
looking forward to it.
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We hope a lot will go. You got
room for any more folk? We do.
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We've got about
ten seats on option 1
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or more and about
twenty seats on option 2.
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So we have plenty of room.
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Yeah. Incredible trip.
I think most of us here
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have been there and
it's... When you walk
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where Jesus walked then to
hear Reggie Smith sing that
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was pretty amazing, too. Oh
wow! You walk down the street
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and in the area. Yeah. But what
a trip. And it's life changing
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for a lot of
people. It really is.
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It has been for
me and for my family.
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My young people,
my kids in our family
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have been with us several times
and it gives them the assurance
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that what they're talking about
is something that's really real.
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When you've been right
there where Jesus healed people
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it does... it adds
to your faith. Yeah.
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Now you don't have to go
there to believe in Jesus.
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But if you ever wanted to go
then this is a very good time.
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What's the dates? We
have... the first departure
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will be the 15th of November
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and the second departure is
three days later on the 18th
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of November. And
the trips coincide while
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we're in Jerusalem.
But the first week goes
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and they get back in
time for Thanksgiving.
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The second group
stays through Thanksgiving.
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And so we overlap those
two groups. We have a wonderful
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time. J.D. and Shelley are going
and some of the other folks here
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have told me they're going too.
All right. So if anybody wants
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to go, later in the week
they can call 3ABN or you
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or somebody, right? Call
3ABN and Jill can give them
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that information or call
the tour company. All right.
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John, it's good to
see you here today, too.
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You were hangin' around with the
Pope on the last couple of days.
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Yeah, yeah. I said
last night: "Look at
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that holy glow on him. " He's
over there. And then he's...
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then you know what he
said? He said: "I ran out here
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so quick I didn't get
make-up, any powder on.
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That's why I'm shining. " Yeah.
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But I give all
the glory to the Lord
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because it is so exciting to
me to know that what we've been
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preaching for years - for
decades - is coming to pass
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right before our eyes.
Yes. And not in a general way
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but in a specific way.
I mean, Protestantism is
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building a bridge
with open arms to Rome.
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And we've known for a long
time this is going to occur.
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But what's exciting about
this: everything is in place,
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Danny, for the final
movements to be rapid ones.
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America is pulling
itself to the stage. I was just
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moved yesterday... I did as much
recording as I could at home...
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but to see at the
World Trade Center Memorial
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Museum... to see all these
faiths, they would clasp hands.
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And I think the Jew and
the Muslim greet together.
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The Hindu and the
Sikh greet together
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and the list goes on and
on. And they all stand there
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giving their full
support to Pope Francis.
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And as we talked about plura-
lism? Pluralism, universalism,
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and ecumenism are all
alive and well in that room.
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And I thought: the day is coming
when God is going to bring
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His truth to the forefront.
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And I'm not concerned
about how many people stand with
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Pope Francis. Who
is on the Lord's side?
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Amen! That's right.
That's the question, and I know
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there are many sincere Catholics
and Sikhs and Buddhists and
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Methodists and
Presbyterians and all alike.
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The Lord says:
"Other sheep I have
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that are not of this fold. "
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But in order for
the drawing to occur,
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in order for God's people
to come to where God wants them
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to be, we've got to be faithful.
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That's why I'm excited that
3ABN is not just a religious
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network but we have
gotten ourselves calibrated
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to evangelism to let
people know we are not playing.
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We are living in
the last days. Um-hmm.
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If we believe that Jesus is
coming, everything that happens
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in Washington is secondary to
what's happening here at 3ABN.
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Come on somebody, say
Amen. All right; all right!
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It's not the White House,
it's the right house that I'm
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focusing on. Oh no, he's getting
on a roll. I might as well
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sit down. We'd better go and
sit down. Move away everybody.
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John's on a roll.
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Preach it, John. Preach it.
The Lord is still God of all.
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He's still the
Lord of all. All right.
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When they called him "his
holiness" I said: "uh-uh. "
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I don't want to say that's
arrogant but that's arrogant.
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His holiness?
Holiness is the Lord's. Yep.
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"The Lord our
righteousness. " There you go!
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And so this man has
really... I tried to be kind
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but I asked people. I said:
"What difference would this make
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in what the Pope is
saying to the public? "
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They said: "It really
doesn't matter what he says.
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He's speaking to all of
us and we all embrace him.
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We all love him. " I
saw the video footage that
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Brad was editing last night.
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I cannot wait till we
get a chance to show that
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and show that as a
program and see that everything
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that the Bible forecasts...
As a matter of fact,
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to show you how bold I was
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when the Congressman
that invited us there asked me
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"What do you think about the
Pope and his visit in America? "
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I gave him a Daniel 2,
Daniel 7, and Revelation 13.
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Not a synopsis
but a detailed study.
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Then I was on the plane going,
and Brad Walker and I were
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studying that
together. Then on the way back
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I sat next to a guy.
He's a Baptist in Murphysboro.
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He asked me the same question.
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He got a study on Daniel 2,
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Daniel 7, and
Revelation chapter 13.
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You know, you've got to
be unashamed of this gospel!
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All right. If you
believe that this is the light
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amidst all this
darkness - Amen! -
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we will be held accountable
for the way we proliferate
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and uphold Jesus in all of it.
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And when I was done...
'cause he started asking all
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these questions and I
said: "Now here it is:
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America is the last
stronghold for Protestantism
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and Republicanism. We're
the last place where religious
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freedom is still
offered, but the Roman agenda
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based on the Bible is
that they're going to trample
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down the world...
break it in pieces
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and cause as many as would not
worship the beast to be killed.
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I said: "It's coming so
let me make a prediction. "
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And I made the prediction.
He said: "You know what?
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You've given me a
whole lot to think about. "
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All right. And so let's
not be ashamed of the gospel.
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Let's tell people
because these individuals
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the Lord said He could
not ever nurture a seed
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that has not been
planted. That's right. So let's
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pray about what's
happening in Rome,
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in the United
States, in our White House
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but let's not lose
sight of the "right house. "
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All right. Thank you, John.
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Speaking... That was a great
segway to somebody who's not
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ashamed of the gospel. I'm
going to bring out Julia Outkina
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and Pastor John
Carter. Thank you all.
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I'm all fired up
already. Aren't you?
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That's good. Hey Sister Julia.
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Hi Danny. You know I love you?
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Yes. I love you in the Lord.
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Julia's my little
sister now for 23 years.
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Yes. Right. I call
Danny "big brother. "
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Yeah... big brother. I'm not
too big but I'm older than her
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so that works. Pastor Carter.
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Because of you... because of
you Julia is standing here today
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and thousands and
hundreds of thousands
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around the
world... maybe millions...
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are taking their stand for Jesus
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because of the work
God has called you to do.
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You're a pastor from Australia.
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You came about
29 years ago or so.
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You called me at
least on the phone.
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He called me.
3ABN was just starting.
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We hardly had... We didn't have
2 or 3 hours of programming.
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And Pastor
Carter... I heard this accent
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and I said: "Where
is this guy from? "
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Now I'm from southern Illinois.
I hadn't traveled anywhere.
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So who has the accent?
Hadn't been here... Well you do!
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Of course you have the accent.
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I tell everybody: "Don't be
jealous. When you get to heaven
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you can speak just like me. "
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So... So I hear this guy
on the phone with an accent.
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We're literally... The
studio is not even finished.
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We're inside
Kenny and I, building,
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and they say:
"There's a phone call...
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a Pastor John
Carter. " Well I heard this
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Australian accent
and he said: "Donny... "
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He still calls me
Donny. I've got a cousin Donny
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but I answer anyway.
"Donny... " instead of Danny...
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He told me who he
was. "I have some programs
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I've already taped. I'd
like to put them on 3ABN.
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I've heard about
3ABN. " And I thought: "Man!
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I don't know if people
understand him or not. "
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Then I said: "But we
don't have any programming
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so yes, I'll
take your programming"
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I told him. He's an Adventist
pastor giving the message.
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But honestly, we've become
great friends through the years.
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I have a tremendous amount of
respect for Pastor John Carter.
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He is one of the... I want to
lift up Jesus, not you, John...
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but one of the great all-
time evangelists and revivalists
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in Adventist
history. I don't know anybody
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who has traveled more,
spoken to bigger crowds.
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Sometimes 100,000...
150,000 people a night
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around the world.
God has anointed him.
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He has given him a special gift.
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And we became
partners a long time ago.
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We're still partners...
still brothers in the Lord.
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Can I say something? Sure.
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No... not now. No you can't.
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3ABN had a tremendous part in
the campaigns we ran in Russia,
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especially in 1992...
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beginning of the year.
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We, as usual, had no money.
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You know? I know. We
had no money. I know that.
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And I talked to you, and
you invited me up to 3ABN
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and we raised some
money for the campaign
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originally in the Kremlin.
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But then we switched
it to Nizhny Novgorod.
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One night with a small audience
we raised the money we needed -
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yes we did - for the
Kremlin because you told me that
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we're gonna be in
Moscow - yes - at the Kremlin.
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We raised the money
and then what happened?
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But then we were
moved. OK... easy now.
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We were moved to the
city of the dissidents.
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That's where Sakharov went. OK.
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But when we talk
about our part in this
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and my part in
this, I was just blessed
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enough to be in the
right time at the right place.
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God has got a time and
a place for everything.
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And when we went there
and you came with us, Danny,
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I'd already been in Moscow
running a campaign in 1991.
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But when we came to
Nizhny Novgorod in 1992
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we saw the glory of God.
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And it wasn't that we
were extraordinary people
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but we were being used by
an extraordinary God. Amen!
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Amen! And that's what happened.
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And with all the
work and all the meetings
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and all the stuff we
had to carry to Russia
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if there had been no other
person who had accepted Christ
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and the message of God
than this beautiful lady
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it would have been worth it all.
Amen! Amen! Praise the Lord!
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Well, last Monday I was
at the General Conference
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and I said: "Wow! How the
Lord has moved and how things
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have changed. " Because
when Elder Carter called
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back then he said: "I
want 3ABN to go with me. "
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I said: "Absolutely. "
He said: "We're going to the
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Kremlin in Moscow. " I
got a call back from him later
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and he said: "Well the church
is putting someone else there.
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They said we can't go
there, even though we had raised
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the money. We're going to
move... You can go to a place
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called Nizhny
Novgorod - formerly Gorky -
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3-1/2 million people. "
What I didn't know at the time
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it had been closed to
Westerners for 73 years.
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There was one church in this
huge city of about 250 people
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and no work there. And
so Elder Carter called me
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and he said: "They want
to move us. We should go. "
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I said: "Wherever you
go, I'm going with you. "
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Right? Wherever he
goes I'm going with you.
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We committed to evangelism.
So we said: "All right,
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we'll let the Lord do it. "
So then he gives me a call back
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and he says:
"I'm sorry to tell you
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but the church leaders
won't let 3ABN go over there
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'cause they want
somebody else to go...
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but not to our meetings. They
won't give you a VISA to go. "
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I said: "OK... the
Lord's will be done. "
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He said: "But I happen to know
people in California that can
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get Visas' for
you... 3ABN to go. "
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Am I telling too much?
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Oh-oh.
00:20:00.90\00:20:02.23
No... what's your
saying is just true and right.
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It's not what you're telling,
it's what we're not telling
00:20:07.80\00:20:09.97
them. Yeah, OK... Yeah, I know.
00:20:10.17\00:20:12.37
We're trying to keep this
where it is, but we're going to
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give God honor
and glory and praise.
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I've thought about
that, and over the years
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problems we've had. Last Monday
I sat in the General Conference
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with C.A. Murray
and Greg Morikone
00:20:22.65\00:20:24.95
with Mark Finley and a number of
other people from Hope Channel
00:20:25.15\00:20:27.76
and Mark Finley
said: "3ABN is of the Lord
00:20:27.96\00:20:30.39
and we're going
to work together. "
00:20:30.59\00:20:31.93
Amen! And you know,
"3ABN is of the Lord;
00:20:32.13\00:20:34.63
we're going to work together. "
00:20:34.83\00:20:36.16
So we were literally
working with church leaders.
00:20:36.30\00:20:38.70
"How can we work
together? " And I thought about
00:20:38.90\00:20:41.04
for how many years that
3ABN... we couldn't get that
00:20:42.70\00:20:44.34
from anybody because we
were young. They didn't know
00:20:44.54\00:20:46.91
what we were going to
do... what kind of programming.
00:20:47.11\00:20:49.24
But the end is near
and Jesus is coming.
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Everybody senses it.
00:20:53.21\00:20:54.72
We all know that we have
a message to give to a lost
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and dying world, and we want
to work together with anybody
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who is willing to give
the three angels' messages
00:21:01.79\00:21:04.16
to the world.
Let's work together.
00:21:04.36\00:21:06.13
So we went to
Nizhny Novgorod, Russia.
00:21:06.53\00:21:10.70
And tell us what... did you
expect or what did you expect
00:21:10.90\00:21:15.50
about the audiences there?
00:21:15.70\00:21:17.47
In 1992 in the
middle of winter in January,
00:21:18.47\00:21:22.48
Julia and Danny, I was
there with two other people
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and we went down to the
Palace of Sport with some of
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the church
survivors. Alexander and Vasily
00:21:31.62\00:21:35.76
and Vitaly. You know them? Yes.
00:21:35.96\00:21:38.76
And we went to this place
and we met the old Communist
00:21:38.96\00:21:42.66
in charge of
the Palace of Sport.
00:21:42.86\00:21:44.43
He was sitting
under a picture of Lenin.
00:21:44.83\00:21:48.14
He said to me
through our translator
00:21:48.64\00:21:50.97
"Nobody will come. "
00:21:51.91\00:21:53.81
Then he said the words: "in this
place we've taught the people
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not even to think of Him. "
00:21:59.55\00:22:01.52
Wow! He said: "We don't
think of Him any more. "
00:22:01.72\00:22:04.25
So we went and saw the
television people to do our
00:22:05.19\00:22:08.86
television ads, and they
said: "Do you pay for these? "
00:22:09.06\00:22:13.80
We were the first people
to use commercial television
00:22:14.30\00:22:18.20
with ads. And we
said: "We should pay. "
00:22:18.40\00:22:22.67
They said: "How much? "
00:22:22.87\00:22:24.27
So we told them what we
thought was a fair price.
00:22:24.47\00:22:27.01
I wish they'd do
that here. So do I.
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And when we came back
- I think it was in June,
00:22:29.44\00:22:34.35
end of May - the advertising
had worked marvelously.
00:22:35.05\00:22:41.02
But it was the right
time and the right place.
00:22:41.22\00:22:43.89
And when I got down... tried
to get down to the auditorium
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I couldn't get near it.
00:22:48.56\00:22:50.07
And so the church
leaders contacted the military
00:22:50.67\00:22:53.90
and they gave us
a big Army vehicle.
00:22:54.40\00:22:58.34
And we went to the
meetings in the Army vehicle.
00:22:58.54\00:23:01.41
And the people were literally
breaking down the doors,
00:23:02.01\00:23:06.25
breaking down the windows,
00:23:06.55\00:23:08.42
storming this great auditorium.
00:23:08.82\00:23:11.35
I had never seen
anything like it.
00:23:11.55\00:23:13.62
An old man stood
outside and raised his hands
00:23:14.02\00:23:17.36
and he cried out and
said: "I have waited 70 years
00:23:17.56\00:23:20.93
for Jesus. In the
name of God let me in. "
00:23:21.13\00:23:24.33
Amen! And as the meeting started
00:23:24.53\00:23:28.10
that first night,
Dr. Julia and Danny,
00:23:28.40\00:23:32.34
the opposition came to the
meetings and threw fire bombs
00:23:32.84\00:23:37.71
on the stage. Were
you there for this?
00:23:37.91\00:23:39.78
There were fire bombs.
And Alexander and the brethren
00:23:40.08\00:23:43.72
were running around with
buckets and putting out the fire
00:23:43.92\00:23:47.52
as I was preaching the Word.
00:23:47.72\00:23:49.22
Yeah. Cloven tongues
of fire! That sounds good.
00:23:50.33\00:23:52.79
So great preaching or
great work always goes
00:23:53.29\00:23:59.30
with great opposition.
00:23:59.70\00:24:01.54
If you're doing
something for God,
00:24:01.74\00:24:03.27
you're going to get
great opposition. Yes.
00:24:03.67\00:24:05.81
And the devil has
got plenty of assistants.
00:24:06.01\00:24:08.24
And so the
meetings became so huge
00:24:08.74\00:24:12.41
that the government said
to us: "Unless you go to three
00:24:12.61\00:24:15.78
identical sessions a day... "
And we had at least 6,000 people
00:24:15.98\00:24:19.55
in each session. Maybe 7,000;
maybe 8,000... I don't know.
00:24:19.75\00:24:23.36
And so we went to three sessions
00:24:23.76\00:24:25.93
and the crowds were so great
and we didn't have the staff.
00:24:26.33\00:24:30.23
And the local KGB
supplied their young men
00:24:30.43\00:24:35.00
who served as our
deacons. Glory be to God!
00:24:35.20\00:24:38.51
All right! So we saw... we saw
00:24:38.71\00:24:43.95
thousands come to Christ. Amen!
00:24:44.15\00:24:46.68
Folks, I want
to say this to you:
00:24:47.28\00:24:49.92
you heard my sermon
last night. Some people say
00:24:50.12\00:24:52.49
"We're not going to get the Holy
Spirit until we're sinless. "
00:24:52.69\00:24:55.39
Well I can testify that's
not true 'cause I'm not sinless
00:24:55.59\00:24:59.19
and I received the Holy Spirit.
All right! Praise the Lord!
00:24:59.39\00:25:02.13
And so can you. As we
saw in those meetings -
00:25:02.33\00:25:05.60
I know this may seem
too hard to believe -
00:25:05.80\00:25:08.20
we saw the Latter Rain.
00:25:08.40\00:25:11.27
Um-hmm. We saw
the mighty movings.
00:25:11.47\00:25:14.91
What do you say
about a crowd of 7,000?
00:25:15.11\00:25:17.65
They won't even
look you in the eye
00:25:17.85\00:25:19.85
they're so glum and
they're so depressed.
00:25:20.25\00:25:23.28
And you know, the Russians
are some of the greatest people
00:25:23.69\00:25:27.46
in the world. I love
the Russian people. Amen!
00:25:27.66\00:25:31.29
Hear what I'm saying? I
love the Russian people.
00:25:31.49\00:25:33.90
And they'd have their eyes
down at 6 o'clock, and by 7:30
00:25:34.10\00:25:38.80
when I would make
an appeal for Christ
00:25:39.00\00:25:41.44
because of the
blood of Christ...
00:25:41.77\00:25:44.81
I would describe
the cross and I'd say
00:25:45.01\00:25:48.51
and I'd put up a great painting
which we'd had commissioned
00:25:48.71\00:25:53.05
showing Christ on
the cross and I'd say:
00:25:53.25\00:25:55.88
"Behold your God oh Russia.
00:25:56.08\00:25:59.19
You are not an
animal; you are not a machine
00:25:59.39\00:26:01.72
as the Communists told you.
00:26:02.02\00:26:03.43
You are a child of God! "
00:26:03.63\00:26:05.79
And I would ask
them to come forward.
00:26:06.19\00:26:08.40
Do you think they walked?
00:26:08.80\00:26:10.57
They ran, and they would
come with their arms raised
00:26:11.90\00:26:16.91
and crying and fall
down on their knees.
00:26:17.11\00:26:22.24
The right time, the right
place with the message of God.
00:26:25.61\00:26:30.95
Amen! And so we
saw the glory of God.
00:26:31.15\00:26:34.06
And if the Carter Report
00:26:34.26\00:26:38.19
had not had a partnership
00:26:38.39\00:26:41.36
with 3ABN, I say
this in the fear of God,
00:26:41.56\00:26:47.20
I can't see how it
could have happened.
00:26:48.34\00:26:50.57
3ABN came to our assistance,
00:26:51.17\00:26:55.34
helped us raise the money.
00:26:55.74\00:26:58.25
You folks think, you
know, you've got tons of money
00:26:58.45\00:27:00.12
for this stuff. We don't
get a dime from the church.
00:27:00.32\00:27:02.98
Not a dime...
and we don't want it
00:27:04.19\00:27:06.25
because as Danny said, when
people say there's only one pie
00:27:06.45\00:27:11.23
I heard Danny
say this 28 years ago
00:27:11.43\00:27:13.83
Danny says when church leaders
say: "There's only one pie
00:27:14.03\00:27:17.43
and you're
stealing from our pie, "
00:27:17.63\00:27:19.57
Danny says: "Why don't
they open the refrigerator?
00:27:19.77\00:27:22.20
It's full of pies. "
00:27:22.40\00:27:24.31
So... so... so...
Because of this partnership
00:27:25.34\00:27:30.95
we were able to
open the refrigerator
00:27:31.15\00:27:34.05
and there were lots of pies.
00:27:34.45\00:27:36.72
And you folks can send
me a few, too, if you want.
00:27:36.92\00:27:39.35
But because of the
preaching... And support 3ABN.
00:27:39.55\00:27:43.39
I'm telling you:
souls should not be dying
00:27:43.59\00:27:49.16
because the saints are
sitting on the Lord's money.
00:27:49.36\00:27:53.03
That's right. Because
it's the Lord's money.
00:27:53.23\00:27:55.47
Amen! And we run campaigns
00:27:55.67\00:27:59.64
with the smallest
budget that you can imagine.
00:27:59.84\00:28:03.48
I mean, we're talking
about hundreds of thousands.
00:28:03.68\00:28:05.91
We're talking
about millions now.
00:28:06.11\00:28:07.62
But I want to tell you folks
something: because we had a
00:28:08.65\00:28:12.55
unique
relationship with Danny Shelton
00:28:12.75\00:28:14.96
whom God raised up
00:28:15.36\00:28:17.29
and 3ABN whom God raised up
00:28:18.39\00:28:21.43
we were able to do
something that individually
00:28:23.13\00:28:26.63
we could not
have done. Absolutely!
00:28:26.94\00:28:29.40
And when I go to
Russia by the grace of God
00:28:29.60\00:28:33.41
I'm going in January when
the weather warms up over there
00:28:33.61\00:28:38.81
and when I go to
3ABN I stand amazed.
00:28:40.58\00:28:46.05
I stand amazed at
what Julia has done.
00:28:46.55\00:28:50.09
I see the quality of
the television programs.
00:28:50.59\00:28:53.53
I see the musical DVDs.
00:28:53.73\00:28:56.60
I hear the Russian singers.
00:28:56.80\00:28:58.83
I see the preaching and
the teaching of the Russians
00:28:59.03\00:29:02.04
and I say: "I am thankful to God
00:29:02.24\00:29:06.81
that I was
permitted to be a part
00:29:07.21\00:29:11.45
of what I consider to be the
greatest work in all the world:
00:29:11.95\00:29:16.48
the preaching of
the gospel of the blood
00:29:16.89\00:29:21.32
of the Son of God.
Hallelujah and praise the Lord!
00:29:21.52\00:29:24.03
Amen! Julia, come
up here a little bit.
00:29:24.23\00:29:27.60
I'd like to... You
heard our version of it
00:29:27.76\00:29:30.40
and what we saw, I'd
like to hear your version.
00:29:30.60\00:29:33.40
Julia has a doctor's
degree in linguistics
00:29:33.60\00:29:37.91
in her specialty: English.
00:29:38.11\00:29:39.54
But she had never been anywhere
and foreigners weren't allowed
00:29:39.74\00:29:42.71
in Nizhny Novgorod, so
you really hadn't heard
00:29:42.91\00:29:45.58
people speaking. Now I
understand Elder Carter...
00:29:45.78\00:29:48.75
English as it should
be spoken. Well, but...
00:29:48.95\00:29:53.05
but let me ask you...
let me just ask you this.
00:29:53.25\00:29:55.82
I won't get in a
dog fight with you here.
00:29:56.02\00:29:57.99
But did they ask you
to go to the university
00:29:58.39\00:30:01.36
and speak so
they could record you?
00:30:01.56\00:30:03.30
See, they asked me but here's
why. It's not really that good.
00:30:03.70\00:30:07.34
It's not really
good. They didn't ask him
00:30:08.67\00:30:10.17
to go to the university.
00:30:10.27\00:30:11.61
They literally came, the
school of language, and said:
00:30:11.64\00:30:13.71
"Could you come to
the school of language?
00:30:14.11\00:30:15.81
We want to record
you. " And I said: "Why? "
00:30:16.01\00:30:18.75
I know I didn't have
a Wintley Phipps voice.
00:30:19.25\00:30:21.58
I said: "Why is that? "
00:30:21.78\00:30:23.75
They said: "We study American
dialects and English dialects.
00:30:23.95\00:30:27.96
Yours doesn't fit into any. "
00:30:28.16\00:30:29.72
They said: "You've got a
little southern stuff in there;
00:30:31.89\00:30:34.66
you've got some midwestern.
" You're sorry for me? I know.
00:30:34.86\00:30:38.87
I'm just affirming you.
00:30:39.07\00:30:40.84
Thank you... thank you.
00:30:41.04\00:30:43.24
So they said: "Really,
we want to study this 'cause
00:30:43.44\00:30:46.31
it's very... " So I
did... I went and read
00:30:46.51\00:30:47.88
Uncle Tom's Log Cabin
or something like that.
00:30:48.18\00:30:50.61
In Russia they had that
book. They didn't have Bibles
00:30:50.81\00:30:53.08
but they had Uncle Tom's
Cabin. But anyway, Julia.
00:30:53.28\00:30:56.02
So Julia was a professor
of English so she should know.
00:30:56.22\00:30:59.62
Let's see how she
sounds. Whatever she sounds
00:30:59.82\00:31:01.46
that's the
correct way Pastor Carter.
00:31:01.66\00:31:03.39
That's how we
settled this. Um-hmm.
00:31:03.59\00:31:05.89
She's got a doctorate in
language. From your perspective,
00:31:06.09\00:31:09.10
give us a little
version of what was going on
00:31:09.50\00:31:12.37
in this huge city when you
heard about an evangelist coming
00:31:12.57\00:31:16.07
from America. OK. I
didn't see those fire things
00:31:16.27\00:31:20.64
thrown on the stage because
the first one to come there
00:31:20.84\00:31:24.51
was my mother.
And then she told me
00:31:24.71\00:31:27.15
"Come. They give
free Bibles there.
00:31:27.35\00:31:30.72
You are supposed to
attend so many meetings
00:31:30.92\00:31:34.26
and then you will
be given a Bible. "
00:31:34.46\00:31:36.22
And it was close to
where I lived and I kind of got
00:31:37.29\00:31:41.00
interested to come. I
thought, it will be a good
00:31:41.20\00:31:45.10
opportunity to
listen to English spoken.
00:31:45.30\00:31:47.44
Because the city was
closed for foreigners.
00:31:47.84\00:31:51.64
I was a teacher of English. I
had never heard a single person
00:31:51.84\00:31:54.58
whose mother
tongue would be English.
00:31:54.78\00:31:56.38
So I came. I
always sat in the back.
00:31:56.88\00:31:59.81
I would never raise my
hand when Pastor John would
00:32:00.22\00:32:03.62
say: "Do you have some
needs that you want for us to
00:32:03.82\00:32:06.45
pray about? "
00:32:06.65\00:32:07.99
I never stood up when he
encouraged people to stand up
00:32:08.02\00:32:11.79
for prayer or something.
00:32:12.19\00:32:14.26
And then since his message
is solidly based on the Bible
00:32:14.76\00:32:19.80
and the Bible does its work...
the Word of God does its work.
00:32:20.00\00:32:23.34
And it did its work in my heart.
00:32:23.54\00:32:25.17
So those things that you spoke
about and I am hearing this
00:32:27.64\00:32:33.21
with Pastor John the first
time. I never told him that
00:32:33.42\00:32:35.48
I have never been interested
in prophecy or in history
00:32:35.68\00:32:38.55
or in
archaeology or any of that.
00:32:38.75\00:32:41.09
But when he read about
the personality... how did you
00:32:41.59\00:32:44.46
describe apostle Paul's
writings where he described
00:32:44.66\00:32:50.57
our characters so well when
we are in a fallen condition
00:32:50.77\00:32:54.30
and then how God
changes us when we accept Him
00:32:54.50\00:32:57.87
I was just so much moved.
00:32:58.07\00:33:01.54
And on the night
before the last baptism...
00:33:01.74\00:33:07.38
No, it was Thursday
before the last baptism
00:33:07.58\00:33:09.85
that was to
take place on Sabbath
00:33:10.05\00:33:11.55
when he read from the Bible:
"Don't you know that your bodies
00:33:11.75\00:33:14.99
are a temple of
the Holy Spirit? "
00:33:15.19\00:33:16.93
I didn't regard it in the
context of the health message
00:33:17.13\00:33:19.53
but I was awed to
hear that God wants to
00:33:19.73\00:33:23.73
regards me His holy
temple in which the Holy Spirit
00:33:23.93\00:33:29.24
dwells it was not like a
promise that He will dwell if...
00:33:29.44\00:33:33.91
but it was: "You are a
temple of the Holy Spirit.
00:33:34.88\00:33:37.98
It dwells in you. " This
was when God's love touched
00:33:38.18\00:33:41.38
my heart. I was the
only sister of the governor
00:33:41.58\00:33:46.22
of Nizhny Novgorod
and I thought: "No matter
00:33:46.42\00:33:50.49
what my brother is going
to say I want to be baptized
00:33:50.69\00:33:53.96
at this meeting. "
00:33:55.06\00:33:56.46
And it was the time when I
wrote Pastor Carter a letter
00:33:56.67\00:34:00.20
because I wanted to be as
beneficial to the cause of God
00:34:01.50\00:34:07.41
and to church as I could.
00:34:07.61\00:34:09.58
And I thought: probably the
only available thing that I have
00:34:09.78\00:34:13.11
is being the
sister of my brother.
00:34:13.31\00:34:17.65
So I thought I should
mention this to Pastor John
00:34:17.85\00:34:22.12
and let him use
this for a witness
00:34:22.32\00:34:25.93
that the governor's sister -
00:34:26.13\00:34:28.06
and I was Ph.D. which means a
good education and a good job -
00:34:28.26\00:34:34.17
so I wanted that to be
a witness of the greatness
00:34:34.37\00:34:37.64
of the message.
So, you know, later
00:34:37.84\00:34:41.88
when I talked to my brother
about that I was baptized
00:34:42.08\00:34:45.78
it was one on one, and he
could say whatever he wanted
00:34:45.98\00:34:51.09
this was when I knew that
my brother is really a very
00:34:51.29\00:34:54.56
very progressively-minded person
because with all the strong
00:34:54.76\00:34:57.63
Communist opposition which was
there he told me: "If this is
00:34:57.83\00:35:00.66
yours, if this is
where you find your comfort,
00:35:00.86\00:35:04.77
if this is where you
find the meaning of your life,
00:35:05.17\00:35:07.94
go ahead with it.
" And yeah... so...
00:35:08.14\00:35:11.51
We found him to be
a wonderful person...
00:35:11.71\00:35:14.08
not necessarily on the first
visit. Elder Carter knocked on
00:35:14.28\00:35:17.65
my door, Rosia Hotel, and
said: "Donny, the governor wants
00:35:17.81\00:35:22.42
to see us. " And I
said: "What? " He goes
00:35:22.62\00:35:24.75
"I don't think he's too happy
with us but we've got to go
00:35:25.15\00:35:28.06
see him. " And I said:
"You really need me to go
00:35:28.26\00:35:30.63
or can you? " I mean,
we're in a foreign country,
00:35:30.83\00:35:33.40
right? Everybody's
carrying AK-47's around.
00:35:33.60\00:35:36.97
And they look like they're
really serious about when they
00:35:37.37\00:35:40.00
tell you. So, he said: "No.
We're in this together so let's
00:35:40.20\00:35:43.54
go. " So we did. We
went; we met the governor.
00:35:43.74\00:35:46.78
The security. We went
in and sat down at a table.
00:35:46.98\00:35:49.61
And the governor was a
really good looking guy.
00:35:50.01\00:35:52.48
Very young. I think
34 years old at the time.
00:35:52.68\00:35:55.12
Youngest governor
in the ex-Soviet Union.
00:35:55.52\00:35:59.62
Ph.D. in Radio
Physics at the age of 25.
00:36:00.02\00:36:03.46
Wow... wow! Amazing.
Brilliant brilliant man.
00:36:03.66\00:36:07.93
We come in there, and
so he's not very happy.
00:36:08.13\00:36:12.13
Hey, we're all happy, right?
00:36:12.33\00:36:13.74
He's not very
happy that we're there.
00:36:13.94\00:36:18.47
Elder Carter had
just baptized 2,532 souls
00:36:18.67\00:36:22.61
for the Lord. Literally the
city had been turned upside down
00:36:22.81\00:36:26.88
for God. And so 6,000 letters
had been written to him...
00:36:27.28\00:36:32.35
some in English. He
took one that was written
00:36:32.55\00:36:35.22
in English... beautiful English.
00:36:35.42\00:36:37.33
But as we were
speaking to the governor
00:36:37.53\00:36:39.23
the governor told him: "Look,
you Adventists need to leave.
00:36:39.43\00:36:42.50
You don't need to be
here, and why are you baptizing
00:36:42.90\00:36:46.50
all these people? We baptize...
everybody just joins the...
00:36:46.70\00:36:49.57
the Russian Orthodox church
when they're born. You don't
00:36:49.87\00:36:53.48
have anything for them;
you don't need to be here. "
00:36:53.68\00:36:55.34
And I'm like: "OK, I
guess. The meetings are over,
00:36:55.74\00:36:58.78
it's time to leave, right? "
I'm like... I'm sitting there
00:36:58.98\00:37:01.35
and Elder Carter takes
his... You ever see him do this
00:37:01.55\00:37:03.85
when he's preaching?
He's like: "Governor,
00:37:04.05\00:37:07.02
you don't know
anything about democracy. "
00:37:07.22\00:37:08.89
And I'm looking for
doors how to get out.
00:37:09.09\00:37:11.03
I said: "There's not a door...
" There wasn't any behind me.
00:37:12.86\00:37:16.10
I thought: "Reckon
where they want one?
00:37:16.30\00:37:18.07
We're gonna get out of this. "
00:37:18.27\00:37:20.37
It's probably the only
time in my adult life I sat for
00:37:20.57\00:37:23.04
nearly an hour while
this man boldly spoke
00:37:23.24\00:37:26.68
to the government and
the governor. And I could not
00:37:26.88\00:37:29.54
believe the things that he said.
00:37:29.74\00:37:31.68
I didn't like the
thought of Russian prisons...
00:37:31.98\00:37:34.32
especially when they would throw
the key in the Volga River.
00:37:34.52\00:37:37.25
But he spoke, a holy man...
Literally God blessed him.
00:37:37.65\00:37:41.82
You read in the Bible
where these things happen
00:37:42.02\00:37:43.96
and I saw it happening.
We're on literally the stage,
00:37:44.16\00:37:48.20
earth's final stage of history,
00:37:48.40\00:37:51.50
and you see things that's
nothing that I could read in the
00:37:51.70\00:37:54.57
Bible could hit home any more.
00:37:54.77\00:37:56.60
Here's a man standing
before the governor, the princes
00:37:56.81\00:37:59.44
and all the leaders, 52 million
people in that constituency,
00:37:59.64\00:38:03.11
and he told them about
democracy and told them about
00:38:03.31\00:38:06.28
fairness. And he says: "If
you're going to be a democratic
00:38:06.48\00:38:09.32
governor then you have
to let us have our rights.
00:38:09.52\00:38:12.25
We have Russian Orthodox
church in America and we allow
00:38:12.45\00:38:15.16
them though they're a minority.
00:38:15.36\00:38:16.69
We don't run them out.
" He explained to this man
00:38:16.73\00:38:19.26
democracy. And the
governor finally said: "Well you
00:38:19.46\00:38:22.66
still don't need to baptize
people. What can you give them
00:38:22.86\00:38:25.63
that the Russian
Orthodox church couldn't? "
00:38:25.83\00:38:28.50
The Russian Orthodox leader...
one of the leaders was there.
00:38:28.90\00:38:31.07
I don't know his name. I
won't tell you about his hat
00:38:31.27\00:38:33.48
'cause it's something...
I'm old enough... I won't go
00:38:33.68\00:38:35.81
into any detail, but when
some of you are old enough
00:38:36.01\00:38:38.48
you kids in
school and you acted up
00:38:38.68\00:38:40.18
and they stood you in a
corner and put a "hat" on you
00:38:40.38\00:38:42.78
and it was kind of
like that kind of hat.
00:38:43.18\00:38:46.05
And so he
seemed to be in charge.
00:38:46.45\00:38:49.49
And the governor... he's
sitting, working together.
00:38:49.69\00:38:52.99
Then Elder Carter
said: "Well you know
00:38:53.19\00:38:57.37
I have thousands of
letters written me but one's in
00:38:57.57\00:39:00.14
beautiful English.
I'll read it to you. "
00:39:00.34\00:39:01.90
It started out: "You have
brought me out of darkness
00:39:02.30\00:39:04.51
into marvelous light. "
Began to read, and as he did
00:39:04.71\00:39:07.54
the governor and the
Orthodox priest - bishop,
00:39:07.74\00:39:12.78
archbishop - they were
just there, kind of motionless
00:39:12.98\00:39:15.68
listening. So finally he
read the end of the letter
00:39:15.88\00:39:19.25
and he said: "This was
signed by Julia Outkina. "
00:39:19.45\00:39:22.22
And the governor said:
"Let me see that paper. "
00:39:22.62\00:39:24.86
Who? Who is that? He
said: "Julia Outkina. "
00:39:25.06\00:39:27.56
He goes: "That's my sister. "
00:39:27.76\00:39:30.07
His only
sister... his big sister.
00:39:30.27\00:39:32.50
Then he said to the
Orthodox bishop/archbishop:
00:39:32.90\00:39:37.21
"Come over here.
The media's out here.
00:39:37.61\00:39:39.57
Mr. Carter, Mr. Shelton,
the bishop. He told him:
00:39:39.77\00:39:42.88
"You stand here. Shake
hands when the media comes in.
00:39:43.08\00:39:45.81
We are going to work together. "
He says: "We have a bigger enemy
00:39:46.01\00:39:49.22
than each other. It's Communism.
We don't want Communism
00:39:49.42\00:39:51.72
to come back. " And
so that was our meeting.
00:39:51.92\00:39:54.99
And from there...
3ABN... we built the largest
00:39:55.19\00:39:58.69
Protestant facility
in the ex-Soviet Union
00:39:58.89\00:40:01.16
and we hired Julia as
a translator. So I asked
00:40:01.56\00:40:04.93
John Kantor, my
cousin, "Would you go over? "
00:40:05.13\00:40:07.44
He's a construction man
and he said: "Well, how long? "
00:40:07.64\00:40:09.74
And I said: "Three months.
" Well, it was several years
00:40:09.94\00:40:12.17
it ended up
being... but I meant well.
00:40:12.37\00:40:14.44
Three months... So
we needed a translator.
00:40:14.64\00:40:16.61
Julia is a professor
of English so I asked her.
00:40:17.01\00:40:20.05
I met with her in the
conference office and said:
00:40:20.25\00:40:22.12
"We'd like to hire you, and how
much would it take to pay you? "
00:40:22.32\00:40:25.49
And you were making how much
at the time? $15.00 a month.
00:40:25.69\00:40:28.69
$15.00 a month. Has her
doctorate's degree... professor
00:40:28.89\00:40:31.89
of English, right?
And $15.00 a month.
00:40:32.09\00:40:35.80
And I said: "Well we want
you; we'll give you $25.00. "
00:40:36.20\00:40:39.33
Now that doesn't
sound... No, no... hang on.
00:40:39.53\00:40:43.37
Hear me out. Oh, they're
not going to let me do this.
00:40:43.57\00:40:47.24
If you're making $15.00 a
month and you get $25.00, that's
00:40:49.74\00:40:53.01
a big raise, isn't it?
So... And people told us there
00:40:53.21\00:40:56.38
"Don't overthrow money around
because these Russians don't
00:40:56.58\00:40:59.39
understand it. They
think all Americans are rich. "
00:40:59.59\00:41:01.32
But I said: "We really need her.
00:41:01.72\00:41:03.76
We'll up your salary
for $25.00 a month. "
00:41:03.96\00:41:06.43
Now anyone would grab at that.
00:41:06.83\00:41:08.93
She didn't. You
know what she said?
00:41:09.33\00:41:11.10
"Oh, I could never take that. "
00:41:11.50\00:41:13.40
She said: "I worked for
the Communist government during
00:41:13.80\00:41:17.27
Communism for $15.00 a month.
I surely wouldn't charge God
00:41:17.47\00:41:21.01
any more than
that to work for Him. "
00:41:21.21\00:41:22.71
So then when... I only
found out this past year
00:41:23.75\00:41:28.98
or so and I shouldn't have
found out. I wasn't supposed to.
00:41:29.18\00:41:31.22
She and Mollie
had a pact together.
00:41:31.42\00:41:33.19
But I found out for
the last several years...
00:41:33.49\00:41:35.59
We pay her, and of course their
wages have gone up to a few
00:41:35.99\00:41:38.39
hundred dollars a
month for all the workers.
00:41:38.59\00:41:40.40
She hasn't been
taking a salary for years.
00:41:40.60\00:41:42.70
She takes her salary and
divides it up among the other
00:41:44.43\00:41:47.64
workers so their standard of
living can be a little better.
00:41:47.80\00:41:50.24
I don't say that to uplift Julia
00:41:50.54\00:41:52.57
but the Jesus, John, in her.
00:41:52.77\00:41:54.48
What she has done... She
was translator till the whole
00:41:54.98\00:41:58.28
building was built. I'd go out
there... brutally cold weather.
00:41:58.48\00:42:01.48
And when I say that
I am not exaggerating
00:42:01.68\00:42:03.92
I can tell you in
Russia in the winter time.
00:42:04.12\00:42:05.82
She would be dressed up and
she had a little sack with her.
00:42:06.42\00:42:08.72
Remind me of a little
squirrel. She'd be translating
00:42:08.92\00:42:12.06
and reaching in
here getting something.
00:42:12.26\00:42:13.73
John never took breaks. He
started early in the morning
00:42:14.13\00:42:16.23
and worked all night.
So her eating was like
00:42:16.43\00:42:18.57
eating something
as she was on the go.
00:42:18.77\00:42:20.54
climbing up these ladders into
the second story, third story
00:42:20.74\00:42:24.01
of the building...
Working so hard and happy
00:42:24.21\00:42:26.91
to do it when she could
have been this professor
00:42:27.11\00:42:30.21
teaching in the warmth...
but she chose to do it.
00:42:30.41\00:42:33.08
Then later when we were ready
we said: "Julia, will you be
00:42:33.48\00:42:35.88
the director of 3ABN Russia? "
00:42:36.08\00:42:38.95
As John said, incredible
amount of work they're doing.
00:42:39.35\00:42:41.96
And I'm so thrilled,
Julia, as John said. All of that
00:42:42.46\00:42:46.76
would be worth it
if it were just you.
00:42:46.96\00:42:48.66
The good news is it
wasn't. There's been thousands
00:42:48.86\00:42:51.33
and thousands of people. But
the devil's been on the attack
00:42:51.53\00:42:54.87
with you, and
recently in this past year -
00:42:55.07\00:42:57.21
in fact, April... we were
doing Spring Camp Meeting...
00:42:57.51\00:42:59.71
and right... literally minutes
before we went on in February
00:43:00.11\00:43:03.28
Spring Camp Meeting somebody
said, one of our crew said,
00:43:03.48\00:43:06.58
I forget which one it
was, they said: "Did you hear
00:43:06.98\00:43:09.25
that Boris Nemtsov, her
brother... " Was on CNN.
00:43:09.65\00:43:13.05
"just got
assassinated in Moscow? "
00:43:13.25\00:43:15.82
And I said: "No, I didn't
hear that. Are you sure? "
00:43:16.22\00:43:19.46
"Yes, we're sure. "
So all the TV channels
00:43:19.86\00:43:22.23
Boris Nemtsov got assassinated.
00:43:22.43\00:43:24.57
He was on kind of an
opposition party? Yes.
00:43:24.77\00:43:27.77
Opposition party of the govern-
ment. He was actually the leader
00:43:27.97\00:43:30.47
of the opposition uniting
all the opposition forces
00:43:30.67\00:43:33.81
against the government.
He was literally assassinated
00:43:34.01\00:43:38.01
in Moscow around
midnight, something like that.
00:43:38.21\00:43:40.38
So I said: "Oh, I've got to...
quickly let's call Julia. "
00:43:40.58\00:43:43.22
So I called Julia
to give her condolences
00:43:43.62\00:43:46.52
and I said: "Julia. "
She said: "Hello Danny. "
00:43:46.82\00:43:48.99
And I thought that's
strange: "Hello Danny. "
00:43:49.39\00:43:51.23
And I said:
"Julia... how're you doing? "
00:43:51.43\00:43:52.76
She said: "Oh, do you need some-
thing? It must be important. "
00:43:52.79\00:43:55.30
I realized she hadn't heard.
00:43:55.70\00:43:57.53
She hadn't heard. It was
2 o'clock in the morning.
00:43:57.93\00:44:00.90
Two o'clock in
the morning your time.
00:44:01.10\00:44:02.60
But you hadn't
heard. No, I hadn't heard.
00:44:04.04\00:44:06.04
No one had called
her; she hadn't heard.
00:44:06.24\00:44:09.74
So I had one of the
toughest jobs of my life
00:44:10.15\00:44:13.98
in letting her know that her
brother had been assassinated.
00:44:14.18\00:44:17.09
And she couldn't...
She says: "Are you sure? "
00:44:17.29\00:44:19.25
I said: "Well maybe you should
turn on Russian television
00:44:19.45\00:44:22.16
and make sure yourself
because there can be mistakes. "
00:44:22.36\00:44:24.99
I just... you
know... So she did.
00:44:25.39\00:44:27.93
Your response? Danny
wanted to make sure that it was
00:44:28.13\00:44:32.73
my brother. He asked for
his name, for his age and so on.
00:44:32.93\00:44:36.71
And you know what
my first response was?
00:44:37.11\00:44:39.57
It was night from
Friday to Saturday.
00:44:39.77\00:44:43.75
The Sabbath already started.
00:44:43.95\00:44:45.45
And my response was: "Praise
the Lord that it is Sabbath. "
00:44:45.85\00:44:50.45
Of course, I
started crying immediately.
00:44:50.85\00:44:53.09
I couldn't... Well, you
can understand how it feels.
00:44:53.29\00:44:56.89
But it was the first thing that
I told Danny. "Praise the Lord
00:44:57.09\00:45:00.00
that it is Sabbath. "
Because... and you know
00:45:00.20\00:45:05.87
my husband also
died on July the 10th
00:45:06.07\00:45:09.17
and it also happened on Sabbath.
00:45:09.37\00:45:12.54
It didn't happen on Sabbath
but this was when I learned
00:45:13.14\00:45:16.18
the news about that. And I
just thought: "The Lord is in
00:45:16.38\00:45:20.15
control. He wouldn't allow for
something like this to happen...
00:45:20.35\00:45:23.62
Thank you. You
know, it means that
00:45:23.82\00:45:27.62
in the
overwhelming plan of salvation
00:45:27.82\00:45:30.83
for the humankind, for
my brother, for my husband,
00:45:31.03\00:45:35.33
for someone else from
the family or something
00:45:35.53\00:45:38.23
this was the best thing
that could have happened.
00:45:38.43\00:45:41.50
So I just... I don't remember
00:45:41.90\00:45:44.31
what you remember as my
first phrase, but I remember
00:45:44.51\00:45:47.61
my first phrase was: "Praise
the Lord that it is Sabbath. "
00:45:47.81\00:45:51.21
So several months...
Last year Fall Camp Meeting
00:45:52.65\00:45:55.88
many of you met her
husband, and her son
00:45:56.08\00:45:58.12
was here with her. You remember?
00:45:58.32\00:46:00.12
A lot of you remember. I
remember taking them over
00:46:00.32\00:46:02.72
to the house and
putting them on a horse.
00:46:02.92\00:46:04.26
They never get to ride a horse,
so we put them in the round pen
00:46:04.43\00:46:07.46
and led them around. And
they were hanging on to that
00:46:07.66\00:46:09.46
horn like not
knowing what to expect
00:46:09.66\00:46:12.03
and had a great time.
00:46:12.53\00:46:14.00
Talked to them both a
little bit about the Lord,
00:46:14.20\00:46:16.27
and her son and her husband...
great changes in their lives.
00:46:16.47\00:46:21.28
That's the beauty of it.
00:46:21.48\00:46:22.98
Her son, who used
to not believe in God,
00:46:23.18\00:46:25.11
said - he's a scientist
also - he said: "I actually know
00:46:25.31\00:46:28.85
that this is by design.
This couldn't just be happening.
00:46:29.05\00:46:31.75
There is a Supreme Being
some- where that designs all of
00:46:31.95\00:46:35.06
these things. " I mean,
huge strides from where they
00:46:35.26\00:46:37.39
used to be. Um-hmm.
And so her husband was here
00:46:37.59\00:46:40.20
then... Danny, may I interrupt
about my husband's visit? "
00:46:40.40\00:46:44.27
It was... We didn't plan
00:46:45.87\00:46:50.47
what people would
talk about with my husband
00:46:50.67\00:46:54.34
or with my son.
But it felt to me like
00:46:54.54\00:46:58.31
God was putting together
a picture - a small puzzle -
00:46:58.51\00:47:02.18
which fit in so well. For
example, someone would share.
00:47:02.38\00:47:05.89
They all knew that
they don't go to church.
00:47:06.29\00:47:08.89
And someone would share
something and then the next one
00:47:09.86\00:47:14.40
just very close to
that would add something
00:47:14.60\00:47:17.30
that would make the picture
broad. So I am so thankful.
00:47:17.50\00:47:20.84
Danny invited my
husband and my son to come
00:47:21.24\00:47:24.51
at the very first
years of 3ABN Russia
00:47:24.71\00:47:27.84
and somehow it didn't happen.
00:47:28.24\00:47:30.15
And I am so
thankful that it happened now
00:47:30.35\00:47:32.68
and I know that it
was God's plan also.
00:47:32.88\00:47:35.52
Amen. Julia, shortly after...
00:47:35.72\00:47:37.95
That's only... When was
that that your husband died?
00:47:38.15\00:47:40.06
What date? July the 10th.
00:47:40.26\00:47:42.12
So you can see it's
only been a couple months.
00:47:42.32\00:47:44.46
And 40 years been
married. He drowned.
00:47:44.86\00:47:47.46
And so he wasn't sick. She
had no idea. So her brother
00:47:47.86\00:47:51.63
in February then her husband.
I mean, how devastating.
00:47:51.83\00:47:57.44
She wrote me an
e-mail and she said:
00:47:57.84\00:48:00.08
"I cannot breathe a
breath or take a step
00:48:00.28\00:48:04.38
without Him now. " Without God.
00:48:04.78\00:48:08.28
We did a little
program with Lanny Wolfe
00:48:08.68\00:48:10.55
and sang Whatever It Takes.
00:48:10.95\00:48:14.19
Julia was listening at
the other end. You said that
00:48:14.39\00:48:16.16
drew you closer
to the Lord. Oh yeah.
00:48:16.36\00:48:18.63
You know, I haven't... In
all my life, I know and I think
00:48:19.36\00:48:23.47
it's with everyone that
would go from one level of
00:48:23.67\00:48:27.17
relations with God to
higher and higher and higher
00:48:27.37\00:48:30.11
through different things.
And now it's the best possible
00:48:30.51\00:48:35.08
relationship between me
and God that I have ever had.
00:48:35.28\00:48:38.85
And yes, during that program
00:48:39.25\00:48:42.08
they were laughing
and crying on this end
00:48:42.28\00:48:44.55
and I was laughing and
crying with them on that end
00:48:44.75\00:48:47.69
there in Russia.
Yes. Says: Take my houses
00:48:47.89\00:48:52.93
and lands. Change
my dreams and my plans.
00:48:53.13\00:48:57.97
For I'm placing my whole life
00:48:58.37\00:49:02.10
in Your hands. And
if You call me today
00:49:02.30\00:49:06.91
to a land far away
00:49:07.58\00:49:10.55
Lord I'll go and Your will obey.
00:49:10.75\00:49:16.08
Next verse says:
00:49:16.48\00:49:17.82
Take the dearest things to me
00:49:18.69\00:49:21.99
if that's how it must be
00:49:22.99\00:49:26.83
to draw... draw
me closer to You.
00:49:27.43\00:49:33.40
Let the disappointments come
00:49:33.94\00:49:36.97
lonely days without the sun
00:49:40.28\00:49:44.18
if through sorrow
00:49:44.48\00:49:47.02
more like You I become.
00:49:47.42\00:49:51.09
Sing it with me if you know it.
00:49:51.29\00:49:52.69
For whatever it takes
00:49:52.89\00:49:56.09
to draw closer to You, Lord,
00:49:56.29\00:50:01.10
that's what I'll
be willing to do.
00:50:01.66\00:50:07.07
For whatever it takes
to be more like You...
00:50:07.27\00:50:09.27
For whatever it takes
00:50:09.47\00:50:13.94
to be more like You
00:50:14.34\00:50:18.28
that's what I'll
be willing to do.
00:50:18.91\00:50:24.62
Amen! Says: I'll
trade sunshine for rain,
00:50:24.82\00:50:30.03
comfort for pain,
00:50:30.33\00:50:32.19
that's what I'll
be willing to do.
00:50:32.59\00:50:34.26
Whatever it takes
for my will to break...
00:50:34.86\00:50:37.03
And that's the
question for all of us today:
00:50:37.33\00:50:39.43
Are we willing? Can
we sing these verses
00:50:41.14\00:50:45.07
to this song?
And can we live them?
00:50:45.27\00:50:47.18
Julia is living it.
Pastor Carter, I want you to
00:50:47.38\00:50:49.31
say a special prayer for Julia,
00:50:49.51\00:50:51.41
the Russian brothers and
sisters, and for all of us
00:50:51.61\00:50:55.88
that right now are
in need of a Savior
00:50:56.08\00:50:57.95
that have not
fully surrendered to Him.
00:50:58.15\00:51:00.19
Our Father in heaven, we thank
you for the great grace of God.
00:51:04.83\00:51:09.30
We thank you that the
will of God will never take us
00:51:09.80\00:51:12.83
where the grace of
God cannot keep us.
00:51:13.03\00:51:15.10
We thank you, our Father,
for what our eyes saw in Russia.
00:51:16.20\00:51:21.48
We thank you that the
Russian people are very precious
00:51:21.78\00:51:25.68
to the heart of
God. And dear Father,
00:51:25.88\00:51:29.68
we just want to pray earnestly
today for our sister Julia
00:51:30.72\00:51:34.42
and for her family.
00:51:35.46\00:51:37.16
We thank you for
her brother Boris
00:51:38.39\00:51:41.40
and that he was a
light standing for freedom.
00:51:41.60\00:51:44.60
We thank you that he is
safe in the hands of God.
00:51:46.03\00:51:49.00
We thank you for
Julia's husband, too.
00:51:50.51\00:51:53.98
A good man whose life
was touched by Your grace
00:51:54.18\00:51:59.15
through the
influence of his wife.
00:51:59.35\00:52:01.62
And we thank you that Julia
has been in this city which is
00:52:02.68\00:52:07.26
almost given over
to unbelief in Russia:
00:52:07.46\00:52:10.99
the great city of Gorky...
00:52:11.29\00:52:13.09
as they call it
today Nizhny Novgorod.
00:52:13.29\00:52:15.26
We thank you that in
this city Julia and her team
00:52:15.46\00:52:19.90
are a light shining for God.
A light shining in the darkness.
00:52:20.10\00:52:24.47
We pray that You will
bless dear Julia, dear Father.
00:52:24.87\00:52:27.58
We thank you for her. We
thank you that You saw her
00:52:29.04\00:52:33.08
in Your plan.
00:52:33.28\00:52:34.88
We thank you that when
Christ was on the cross
00:52:35.88\00:52:40.92
she was on His mind -
Amen - and He thought of her.
00:52:41.12\00:52:46.66
And when they said:
"Come down from the cross"
00:52:47.06\00:52:49.50
He could have come
down but He thought of Julia
00:52:49.70\00:52:53.40
and He thought of the rest
of the world and He thought of
00:52:53.80\00:52:56.40
our Russian
brothers and sisters.
00:52:56.60\00:52:58.77
And so He stayed on the cross
and took hold of the Roman nails
00:52:59.07\00:53:03.55
until His heart was broken
00:53:03.75\00:53:05.61
to save us and to redeem us.
00:53:06.21\00:53:08.55
We thank you that
there's a better day coming.
00:53:08.95\00:53:11.19
A better day, a
better time, a better place
00:53:12.05\00:53:14.42
when there's going to be
no more sin and no more sorrow
00:53:14.82\00:53:18.43
and no more death. Yes!
We pray that you will keep us
00:53:18.63\00:53:21.36
faithful in
Christ until that day.
00:53:21.56\00:53:23.53
And so dear Father, we pray
that you will take our beloved
00:53:23.73\00:53:26.67
sister Julia into Your
gracious hands now. Yes!
00:53:26.87\00:53:30.41
Watch over her, Lord.
00:53:30.81\00:53:32.61
Bless her; comfort her;
00:53:32.81\00:53:35.44
and save her with us
with an everlasting salvation.
00:53:36.24\00:53:39.48
And we worship
You and we bless You
00:53:39.88\00:53:42.52
and we praise You
and we give you glory
00:53:42.92\00:53:45.62
and we give You
thanks in Jesus' name,
00:53:45.82\00:53:50.09
Amen and amen. Pastor Carter,
00:53:50.29\00:53:52.89
I want you to do in
just a minute before you go
00:53:53.09\00:53:55.16
what you did one time. And
I don't even know if you know
00:53:55.56\00:53:58.27
about this. But one time several
years ago pastoral told us
00:53:58.47\00:54:02.00
they got a call from a man.
00:54:02.20\00:54:04.07
He said it was late at
night. He had no reason to live.
00:54:04.27\00:54:08.64
Everything of earth
meant nothing to him.
00:54:09.04\00:54:12.71
He chose to kill himself.
00:54:12.91\00:54:15.55
He said: "I'm going to
kill myself. " He had a gun
00:54:15.75\00:54:17.42
and he lived in a
duplex or apartment area.
00:54:17.82\00:54:20.96
For whatever reason
he said: "I don't want
00:54:21.36\00:54:23.99
people knowing about it tonight.
00:54:24.19\00:54:25.99
I'm just gonna take my life. "
00:54:26.19\00:54:28.63
So he went and got his gun
00:54:28.83\00:54:30.47
and said: "I'll just
turn up the television
00:54:30.87\00:54:35.14
as loud as I can. Maybe
people won't hear the gunshot. "
00:54:35.74\00:54:39.41
He said: "When I
turned the television on... "
00:54:40.78\00:54:43.41
he knew nothing about 3ABN...
00:54:43.61\00:54:45.31
"John Carter was on. "
00:54:47.38\00:54:50.09
3ABN. He said:
"Friend, Jesus loves you.
00:54:50.29\00:54:54.72
He died for you. He made
a plan of salvation for you.
00:54:55.59\00:54:58.46
He's coming back for you
soon in the clouds of glory. "
00:54:58.66\00:55:01.80
The guy said: "He was
looking right at me. "
00:55:02.20\00:55:04.03
"He was looking
right at me. " Amazing!
00:55:04.93\00:55:07.17
He called to
surrender his life to Jesus.
00:55:07.57\00:55:12.64
Do you high-five in
Australia? I don't know.
00:55:12.84\00:55:15.24
OK... you do.
00:55:15.64\00:55:16.98
Do you high-five in Russia,
Julia? You do now, right?
00:55:17.15\00:55:19.75
All right. I want you to
take just a moment to look into
00:55:19.95\00:55:24.55
that camera because
there may be someone right now
00:55:24.75\00:55:27.59
who's in that same position:
00:55:27.89\00:55:30.83
down and out, discouraged.
They think there's no reason
00:55:31.03\00:55:34.76
to live. Just take a
minute or two - couple minutes -
00:55:34.96\00:55:36.80
and talk to that viewer today.
00:55:37.20\00:55:39.27
Point him which... Right
over there. That camera's on
00:55:39.67\00:55:41.40
right now. The
greatest truth in the Bible is
00:55:41.60\00:55:46.57
this truth: that
there's a God in heaven
00:55:46.78\00:55:49.54
and He gave His Son
and His Son died for you.
00:55:49.74\00:55:53.65
And you may feel a
million miles from God today
00:55:53.85\00:55:57.05
but He's not a
million miles from you.
00:55:57.45\00:56:00.36
He's with you now.
00:56:00.56\00:56:02.36
And the Bible tells me
"For God so loved the world
00:56:03.19\00:56:06.19
that He gave His only Son
so that whoever believes in Him
00:56:06.59\00:56:10.20
shall not perish but
have everlasting life. "
00:56:10.40\00:56:13.60
You may have come to the
end as far as you're concerned
00:56:14.74\00:56:18.64
but as far as God
is concerned for you
00:56:19.04\00:56:21.94
this is only the beginning.
00:56:22.14\00:56:24.25
He has a great plan for
you my brother, my sister,
00:56:24.61\00:56:28.05
and He wants to
touch you tonight.
00:56:28.25\00:56:30.72
Don't give up, because
God hasn't given up on you.
00:56:31.12\00:56:34.26
I say to you
tonight... or today...
00:56:34.66\00:56:37.53
believe in the God
who believes in you
00:56:37.73\00:56:41.36
because He loves
you and He cares for you
00:56:42.56\00:56:46.17
and He's preparing a
place for you in glory.
00:56:46.57\00:56:49.94
And I want to say to you today
00:56:50.34\00:56:52.34
if you'll just open up
your heart now to Christ
00:56:53.51\00:56:57.41
Christ will
come into your heart.
00:56:57.81\00:57:00.62
And when He comes into your
heart He'll forgive your sins
00:57:00.98\00:57:05.85
and He'll wash you clean
00:57:06.25\00:57:08.69
and He'll give you peace
00:57:08.89\00:57:11.26
and He'll save you because
He'll give you everlasting life.
00:57:11.46\00:57:15.70
And I want to say to the person
sitting there right now...
00:57:16.83\00:57:19.93
I don't know your name;
I don't know who you are.
00:57:20.44\00:57:22.77
You may not know who I am.
00:57:22.97\00:57:24.71
It doesn't really matter.
But the truth is God knows you
00:57:24.91\00:57:28.88
and God knows your name
00:57:29.28\00:57:31.05
and He knows what the problem is
00:57:31.35\00:57:33.35
and He knows
everything about you
00:57:33.55\00:57:35.78
and He loves you
and He cares for you.
00:57:36.18\00:57:39.65
And I want to pray for you now.
00:57:40.06\00:57:42.02
Dear Father, here is this
person watching this telecast
00:57:42.42\00:57:46.73
today, and this
person has come to the end
00:57:46.93\00:57:50.50
of his or her tether.
00:57:50.70\00:57:52.97
The bottom has fallen out.
00:57:54.10\00:57:56.54
That person's got nowhere to go.
00:57:56.94\00:57:59.84
But help that
person to know today
00:58:01.04\00:58:03.58
that God is the place to go
00:58:03.98\00:58:07.32
and that Jesus knows about us.
00:58:08.52\00:58:11.42
And Jesus knows
about this person
00:58:11.62\00:58:14.06
and Jesus died for that person.
00:58:14.42\00:58:16.83
And therefore as
we're praying here today,
00:58:17.89\00:58:21.60
people are watching this
telecast we're saying this:
00:58:22.90\00:58:26.07
dear Lord, we are weak.
00:58:26.27\00:58:29.14
We don't know what to do.
00:58:29.34\00:58:31.07
We've made a mess of things.
00:58:31.47\00:58:33.24
And so we're asking You,
the great God of the universe
00:58:34.54\00:58:37.41
who made the stars, who
died for our sins on the cross,
00:58:37.61\00:58:42.18
we're asking You
"Come into our hearts.
00:58:42.38\00:58:44.92
Wash us clean. Take
the hate out of our hearts.
00:58:45.72\00:58:51.23
Take the fear out of our hearts.
00:58:51.43\00:58:55.20
Take this awful
depression off our souls
00:58:55.40\00:59:00.07
and grant us peace
and everlasting life. "
00:59:01.14\00:59:06.47
So bless my brother, my sister,
00:59:06.88\00:59:10.05
who is watching right now.
00:59:10.25\00:59:12.55
Put Your hand upon him, Lord.
00:59:12.95\00:59:15.52
Put Your hand upon
her as You did upon Julia.
00:59:15.92\00:59:18.95
And bless him and bless her.
00:59:20.32\00:59:24.73
And so we thank you
today and we worship You
00:59:26.70\00:59:31.23
and we bless You
and we give You glory
00:59:31.63\00:59:35.37
and we put these souls
right now into the hand
00:59:36.81\00:59:41.31
that was nailed to the cross.
00:59:41.51\00:59:43.21
And we do so with
thankfulness and joy
00:59:44.08\00:59:47.12
in Jesus' name. Amen and amen.
00:59:47.52\00:59:52.25
Amen. Amen.
00:59:52.45\00:59:54.06
Thank you Julia;
thank you Pastor Carter.
00:59:54.26\00:59:56.83
God bless.
00:59:57.03\00:59:58.36
Ya'll been blessed? Amen!
01:00:04.57\01:00:07.14
Isn't it great for hope?
01:00:07.77\01:00:09.87
To have hope in Jesus Christ?
01:00:10.17\01:00:12.34
In what time we've got
left I want to talk to you
01:00:13.41\01:00:15.81
for a little bit.
I'm not good at notes.
01:00:16.01\01:00:18.18
Usually I just talk.
I have so many stories
01:00:18.38\01:00:20.25
about what God is doing.
This morning I made a few notes
01:00:20.45\01:00:23.42
and... because it
occurred to me: I had no idea
01:00:23.62\01:00:28.02
why I wanted to talk
about what I wanted to talk to.
01:00:28.22\01:00:31.79
It couldn't have been a
better segway had you planned it
01:00:31.99\01:00:34.60
because the very first
thing I have written down
01:00:35.00\01:00:39.17
was... I'm going to
talk to you about this.
01:00:39.37\01:00:42.17
Has anybody ever watched
the movie It's a Wonderful Life?
01:00:42.37\01:00:45.87
Let me see how
many have watched it.
01:00:47.11\01:00:48.84
All right. The rest
of you probably should.
01:00:49.04\01:00:50.95
All right?
Nothing wrong with it.
01:00:51.15\01:00:53.42
1938 or whatever... 1935.
01:00:53.62\01:00:55.78
Who was in it? Jimmy
Stewart and Donna Reed.
01:00:56.18\01:01:00.49
Yeah... a lot of you
watched it. All right?
01:01:00.69\01:01:02.22
It's a Wonderful Life. It
happens around Christmastime.
01:01:02.62\01:01:05.46
A young man...
What was his name?
01:01:05.66\01:01:07.50
George. Name is George, right?
01:01:07.90\01:01:10.67
George ended up - it was
around Christmas - getting ready
01:01:11.43\01:01:13.84
to celebrate Christmas,
but things didn't go right
01:01:14.04\01:01:18.24
and somehow some
money was lost at the bank
01:01:18.44\01:01:21.84
and he ended up...
decided that he wanted to,
01:01:22.04\01:01:24.85
to end his life. He
couldn't face anybody
01:01:25.05\01:01:28.62
and was going to end his life.
So he goes to a Christmas...
01:01:28.82\01:01:31.99
It's snowing.
He goes to a bridge
01:01:32.19\01:01:34.76
and he says: "I'm just going
to jump in and kill myself. "
01:01:34.96\01:01:38.23
But there happens to be - now
take this with a grain of salt -
01:01:38.63\01:01:41.06
It's just a movie, right? -
01:01:41.46\01:01:43.03
but a grain of salt. There
happened to be an angel there
01:01:43.23\01:01:45.63
whose name was? Clarence.
01:01:45.83\01:01:48.30
All right. So did
George jump in the water?
01:01:48.50\01:01:51.24
He jumped in the water, right?
01:01:52.47\01:01:54.34
And Clarence pulled him out.
01:01:54.54\01:01:56.85
'Cause what he said
was... he said: "What's wrong? "
01:01:57.05\01:01:59.88
He made this statement: "I
wish I had never been born. "
01:02:00.08\01:02:02.88
Now that's the key to it: "I
wish I had never been born. "
01:02:04.09\01:02:07.22
So when he gets out of the
water he goes to get dried off
01:02:08.02\01:02:12.03
and he goes into a place
where people are partying
01:02:12.23\01:02:14.56
and they're laughing.
And he talks to: "Hey,
01:02:14.76\01:02:16.97
so and so. " And they look at
him: "I don't know this guy. "
01:02:17.17\01:02:18.77
Everywhere he goes it
suddenly occurs to him
01:02:18.97\01:02:22.50
he had never been born.
01:02:22.70\01:02:24.44
And the whole city was changed.
01:02:24.84\01:02:27.41
'Cause there was a guy... What
was his name? The greedy guy?
01:02:27.61\01:02:29.68
Yeah. Potiphar? No... Potter.
01:02:32.95\01:02:37.29
Potter. So the city
had a name of - the town -
01:02:37.49\01:02:42.49
but when he went in
it had a different name.
01:02:42.69\01:02:45.49
Potters? Pottersville.
Thank you. Somebody's
01:02:46.53\01:02:50.30
watched every bit of this.
01:02:50.50\01:02:52.00
So... Pottersville.
01:02:52.60\01:02:54.87
And so the point of it is
01:02:55.47\01:02:58.17
he saw over a period of time
01:02:58.37\01:03:01.08
what the world would have been
like if he hadn't of been born.
01:03:01.48\01:03:04.71
That he DID make a difference.
01:03:04.91\01:03:06.48
And that's what I
wanted to ask you today.
01:03:07.08\01:03:08.85
What if you had never been born?
01:03:09.95\01:03:13.49
Would the world
be different today?
01:03:14.09\01:03:16.26
Think about it.
01:03:17.43\01:03:18.96
If you hadn't been born, would
the world be different today?
01:03:19.46\01:03:22.83
Would there be a
big hole all around you?
01:03:24.30\01:03:28.80
I want to use
that as Elder Carter.
01:03:30.01\01:03:33.44
And I had written
this about Elder Carter.
01:03:33.64\01:03:35.88
What? Let's take for
granted or take as illustration:
01:03:36.64\01:03:40.05
what if Elder John
Carter had not been born?
01:03:40.25\01:03:42.52
What if Elder John
Carter had not been born?
01:03:45.39\01:03:47.82
Julia's here.
Thousands of people there.
01:03:49.76\01:03:52.93
El Salvador I think it
was, San Salvador. 150,000
01:03:53.33\01:03:57.17
a night,
thousands being baptized.
01:03:57.37\01:03:59.00
Africa...
thousands being baptized.
01:03:59.20\01:04:01.60
All across New Guinea...
thousands being baptized.
01:04:02.00\01:04:04.91
What if he hadn't been born?
01:04:05.61\01:04:07.31
What if Julia had not been born?
01:04:07.71\01:04:10.51
Thousands of people are
hearing about the gospel.
01:04:12.21\01:04:14.42
Millions of people,
yea, being born into Jesus
01:04:14.62\01:04:20.02
through the
ministries of these people.
01:04:20.42\01:04:23.12
So I want you to think
about it for just a few moments
01:04:23.53\01:04:25.79
that what are you
doing in this world
01:04:26.96\01:04:31.20
that makes it worth you being
born in these closing moments
01:04:32.50\01:04:36.94
of earth's history.
01:04:37.14\01:04:38.51
It's no accident that each
and every one of us are here.
01:04:39.24\01:04:42.41
Now here's the trouble:
01:04:43.68\01:04:45.41
facts prove to us
that all of us were born.
01:04:45.61\01:04:47.92
The only guy who could
argue that is probably my uncle
01:04:48.98\01:04:51.05
Clinton 'cause he
could argue anything you say.
01:04:51.25\01:04:53.36
Doesn't make any difference.
01:04:53.56\01:04:54.89
He'll find an answer
and almost convince you.
01:04:55.06\01:04:56.56
But the facts are
everyone here has been born.
01:04:56.76\01:05:00.86
But how many have showed up?
01:05:01.26\01:05:03.80
That's shown or showed?
01:05:04.00\01:05:06.50
Shown, right? How
many of us have shown up?
01:05:06.70\01:05:08.50
Right? How many showed up?
01:05:08.70\01:05:10.34
Are you with me now?
01:05:10.74\01:05:12.81
We know we've all
been born; here we are.
01:05:13.01\01:05:15.38
But how many showed up
to do something for God?
01:05:15.78\01:05:20.35
How many of us said:
"Lord, I accept You as
01:05:20.75\01:05:26.02
Lord and Savior of my life
01:05:26.22\01:05:27.92
and I want to make a difference
in the world around me today? "
01:05:28.12\01:05:32.49
You see, when we realize
we're not here by happenstance,
01:05:32.89\01:05:35.83
we're not here by accident,
01:05:36.03\01:05:37.63
when that hits home to us
it also hits home that God has
01:05:38.57\01:05:42.50
a plan for us.
Somebody say amen? Amen!
01:05:42.70\01:05:46.37
God has a plan for us.
Each and every one of you here
01:05:46.57\01:05:49.68
and watching around the
world God has a plan for you.
01:05:49.88\01:05:53.42
As Pastor John said: when
Jesus was hanging on the cross
01:05:53.82\01:05:56.48
you and I were on
His mind. That's right!
01:05:56.69\01:05:59.59
Think about that.
Jesus Christ on the cross
01:05:59.92\01:06:03.36
carrying the sins of the
world thought about you and me.
01:06:03.56\01:06:07.10
He could look down the stream
of time and see a people that
01:06:07.50\01:06:10.67
would be willing to give their
lives unto death if necessary
01:06:10.87\01:06:14.14
for the cause of God.
Well mostly in my lifetime -
01:06:14.34\01:06:17.74
and I'm sure with
some people it has -
01:06:17.94\01:06:20.41
we've not seen world events
01:06:20.61\01:06:22.71
where all the things that we've
been told are going to happen...
01:06:22.91\01:06:26.25
All of these
things: National Sunday law,
01:06:26.45\01:06:29.28
all of these closing events
where Christians are going to be
01:06:29.48\01:06:33.19
persecuted. Things have
changed... things have changed.
01:06:33.39\01:06:37.46
Right now we
have turned a corner
01:06:37.66\01:06:39.59
and it happened... As far as
I'm concerned, it's been turning
01:06:39.79\01:06:41.83
for a long time. But a 90 degree
or maybe a turn around backwards
01:06:42.03\01:06:45.50
however you want to do it: 180.
01:06:45.70\01:06:47.04
But when the Supreme
Court re-defined marriage
01:06:47.14\01:06:50.27
here in the
United States of America.
01:06:50.47\01:06:52.24
Now that's huge. If somebody
doesn't know that's huge,
01:06:52.44\01:06:55.48
we need to wake
up. That is huge!
01:06:55.68\01:06:59.01
Why is that huge? Because the
government of the United States
01:06:59.21\01:07:02.78
of America just
trampled on God's law.
01:07:02.98\01:07:06.15
We thumbed our nose at God.
01:07:07.82\01:07:10.03
Am I telling the truth?
01:07:11.46\01:07:13.53
Amen. Other countries will
follow, I'm sure, and have.
01:07:13.83\01:07:18.07
But this is absolutely
incredible. I never thought
01:07:18.87\01:07:22.50
I'd live to see this. Did you?
01:07:22.70\01:07:26.07
Or do you even care?
01:07:26.98\01:07:28.71
Do I care? Do we care?
01:07:28.91\01:07:30.28
Yes! All right... we care.
01:07:30.48\01:07:32.35
If we care we've gotta...
01:07:32.55\01:07:34.18
Somebody said about...
At church one day he said:
01:07:34.38\01:07:36.42
"Are you happy? "
I heard a preacher...
01:07:36.62\01:07:38.09
And everybody said:
"Yes. " He said: "Then
01:07:38.29\01:07:39.62
notify your
face... I can't tell. "
01:07:39.69\01:07:41.42
So that's the way
maybe the Lord is saying.
01:07:41.92\01:07:44.39
We're saying: "We're happy,
Lord. " He says: "Well notify
01:07:44.59\01:07:46.36
Me. Let Me see
that by your actions
01:07:46.56\01:07:49.20
that you're happy in the Lord. "
01:07:49.40\01:07:50.90
There's so many events
happening, but the movement
01:07:51.30\01:07:54.60
that anything that you
do towards God or for God
01:07:54.80\01:07:58.31
or proclaim God is
being downtrodden right here
01:07:58.51\01:08:01.21
in the United States of America.
01:08:01.41\01:08:02.74
Did you know there's
more religious freedom
01:08:03.14\01:08:05.41
in Russia... There was
23 years ago when we went
01:08:05.61\01:08:08.88
to Russia... than there
was here in the United States?
01:08:09.08\01:08:10.79
In Russia they brought in...
All the young people that we
01:08:11.79\01:08:15.22
could bring from
America, they brought them in to
01:08:15.42\01:08:18.06
the schools to
teach them English
01:08:18.26\01:08:20.60
and allowed them to
teach the Bible to them. Amen!
01:08:20.80\01:08:23.33
They were saying:
"Teach us about the Bible. "
01:08:23.53\01:08:25.33
Our schools said do what?
01:08:25.53\01:08:27.40
"We don't want to
hear anything about God. "
01:08:28.80\01:08:32.14
These schools were
saying: "Teach us to pray. "
01:08:32.34\01:08:34.91
Government, formerly
Communist government, saying
01:08:35.91\01:08:39.21
"You can pray in our schools. "
01:08:39.41\01:08:40.98
The schools in the
United States of America
01:08:41.18\01:08:43.22
were doing what with
prayer? Throwing it out!
01:08:43.42\01:08:47.02
Now here you are
seventy-three years without God
01:08:47.42\01:08:50.66
and here we are
all of these years
01:08:51.16\01:08:54.16
with America we're supposed
to be the "Christian" nation
01:08:54.36\01:08:57.97
if I can use that term
01:08:58.17\01:08:59.70
and yet while
we're throwing God out
01:08:59.90\01:09:02.50
these people had sense
enough, spiritual sense enough,
01:09:02.70\01:09:06.34
to know
seventy-three years without God
01:09:06.54\01:09:09.04
was too long and it wasn't
going anywhere except to death.
01:09:09.24\01:09:12.61
And they were open to receive
Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior
01:09:13.01\01:09:16.18
of their lives. Julia
Outkina said: "I wasn't
01:09:16.38\01:09:18.89
an atheist. I just
didn't know about God.
01:09:19.09\01:09:21.99
Didn't know about Him;
hadn't thought much about Him. "
01:09:22.39\01:09:24.59
That's hard for my mind
to understand. How about you?
01:09:24.79\01:09:27.73
To not even think about
whether there's a God or not.
01:09:27.93\01:09:30.73
I mean that's just
hard to comprehend.
01:09:31.13\01:09:33.30
But when she heard it...
She didn't go there to hear
01:09:33.50\01:09:35.54
about God. She went
there to hear English.
01:09:35.74\01:09:37.97
She wanted to hear it,
then she got to hear me speak
01:09:38.37\01:09:40.74
which didn't
help her any... much.
01:09:40.94\01:09:43.18
But here we are... She got
to hear Elder Carter speak,
01:09:44.15\01:09:46.38
of course. But as he
was reading, the words
01:09:46.58\01:09:49.32
jumped off of that
Bible right into her heart.
01:09:49.52\01:09:51.75
Amen! You know why?
Because she knew there must be
01:09:51.95\01:09:54.49
something better. She
knew there must be some hope
01:09:54.69\01:09:58.66
for this world. And
when she heard about it
01:09:58.86\01:10:02.06
the Holy Spirit pricked her
heart and she accepted Jesus
01:10:02.26\01:10:05.50
Christ as Lord and
Savior of her life.
01:10:05.70\01:10:09.14
We have to show up.
Today if we're a Christian,
01:10:09.97\01:10:13.11
Seventh-day Adventist
Christians in particular,
01:10:13.31\01:10:15.68
we have to show up.
01:10:15.88\01:10:17.31
We're here, and what
are we going to do about it?
01:10:18.61\01:10:21.52
We're making a decision
whether we think we are or not.
01:10:21.72\01:10:24.52
Everybody's making a decision.
You don't have a choice.
01:10:25.45\01:10:27.76
Say: "Oh, I don't want
to be bothered with this.
01:10:27.96\01:10:29.59
I really don't... I'm not
that concerned about it. "
01:10:29.79\01:10:32.19
You just made a choice...
you just made a choice.
01:10:32.39\01:10:35.63
Today is the day of salvation.
01:10:36.60\01:10:38.83
Now all of us: "Oh, I'm
a Christian. I've been an
01:10:39.03\01:10:41.07
Adventist. I've been
raised all these years. "
01:10:41.27\01:10:43.17
I talk to people. I say: "How
long you been a Christian? "
01:10:43.37\01:10:45.14
"Oh, I'm a fourth-
generation Adventist. "
01:10:45.44\01:10:47.38
And I say: "How long
you been a Christian? "
01:10:47.78\01:10:49.71
"Well I'm a fourth
generation. My mom; my grandpa;
01:10:49.91\01:10:53.15
You know, great... "
"No, no. How about you? "
01:10:53.35\01:10:55.88
"Well, I was
raised in the church. "
01:10:56.08\01:10:57.99
I said: "Did you
ever stray away? "
01:10:58.49\01:11:00.92
I've done over
10,000 interviews.
01:11:01.12\01:11:02.66
"Do you ever stray away?
You were raised in an Adventist
01:11:02.86\01:11:05.66
church. Did you ever
stray away from the Lord? "
01:11:05.86\01:11:08.46
"No... I always
just served the Lord. "
01:11:08.66\01:11:10.30
"Did you ever? You didn't
have any problems as a teenager?
01:11:11.20\01:11:13.70
You didn't go any? You wanted
to? " "No, I've just always
01:11:13.90\01:11:16.60
been good. " No... I'm serious.
01:11:16.81\01:11:20.38
That's what some people
tell me: "No, I've just always
01:11:20.58\01:11:22.41
been good. I never never really
strayed away from the Lord. "
01:11:22.61\01:11:26.41
Everybody strays away
from the Lord. That's right!
01:11:26.61\01:11:28.95
Everybody. Because
we're born with a separation.
01:11:29.15\01:11:32.49
You don't see Jesus
standing here right now.
01:11:32.89\01:11:34.92
Why not? We're separated by sin.
01:11:35.12\01:11:37.83
In a sinful world, if
He showed up right now
01:11:38.03\01:11:40.16
what would happen to
us? We would die, right?
01:11:40.36\01:11:43.06
Because we're not ready for it.
People say: "Oh you know, I'm...
01:11:43.26\01:11:46.23
I'm just born this way.
I've been good all my life. "
01:11:46.43\01:11:48.64
No, we haven't been
good all of our life.
01:11:48.84\01:11:50.41
Now is the time we're
going to have to understand
01:11:50.81\01:11:52.67
that we have to submit
and commit our lives to Jesus
01:11:52.87\01:11:55.51
and be willing to go and
tell what He's done for us
01:11:55.71\01:11:58.45
no matter how popular it is
or how unpopular that it is.
01:11:58.65\01:12:02.28
We have to stand up.
It's such a political climate
01:12:02.48\01:12:05.62
in this country
you can't say anything
01:12:05.82\01:12:08.19
about anybody or about sin
01:12:08.49\01:12:11.13
because they say you're -
I'm going to use the term -
01:12:11.33\01:12:14.90
doggin'. Can't
think of something else.
01:12:15.10\01:12:16.80
Doggin' people. But
it's got where you cannot
01:12:17.00\01:12:19.97
say anything. And television
stations and radio stations...
01:12:20.17\01:12:23.24
It's already happened in
Canada and some other places.
01:12:23.44\01:12:25.67
You can't say anything
about sin because if you do then
01:12:25.87\01:12:30.08
you've got to go off the air
'cause you're a people hater.
01:12:30.28\01:12:32.65
So now how do you
preach the gospel?
01:12:33.05\01:12:35.12
See, it's not our
job to judge people.
01:12:35.32\01:12:37.32
Right? We don't know. Man
looks on the outward appearance;
01:12:38.15\01:12:40.96
God looks on the
heart. We can pretend...
01:12:41.16\01:12:42.62
"Oh, I can tell by looking
at him he's not a Christian. "
01:12:42.82\01:12:45.06
"I can tell by looking at
him. " But we really can't.
01:12:45.26\01:12:47.86
If we think we can, we
don't believe the Bible.
01:12:48.26\01:12:50.57
Right? You don't believe the
Bible if we really think we can
01:12:50.97\01:12:53.67
do that. But it's
not our job to judge.
01:12:53.87\01:12:56.57
It's our job to take the message
to a lost and dying world.
01:12:56.77\01:12:59.67
It happened - not by coincidence
but by divine providence -
01:13:00.08\01:13:04.78
most of those within my hearing
have been able to receive
01:13:04.98\01:13:09.38
not only Jesus Christ as
Lord and Savior of our life
01:13:09.58\01:13:13.66
but we received information
that's found in the back of the
01:13:13.86\01:13:17.93
book in Revelation that tells
us Jesus is coming very soon.
01:13:18.13\01:13:22.50
He's coming for a
purified bride; He's coming for
01:13:22.70\01:13:25.07
a purified church. He's
coming for a victorious church.
01:13:25.27\01:13:28.50
People say: "Why we've been
hearing that Jesus is coming
01:13:28.70\01:13:31.87
for years. Why isn't He here? "
01:13:32.07\01:13:33.41
Well, I don't see a
victorious church. Do you?
01:13:33.44\01:13:35.41
We have all the same
problems that the world has.
01:13:35.91\01:13:38.25
I know 'cause I'm
dealing with them, too.
01:13:38.65\01:13:40.75
I've had the problems and
I've been part of the problems.
01:13:40.95\01:13:44.25
And If you're honest with your-
self you'll admit you are, too.
01:13:45.32\01:13:48.92
Amen! You're all there.
01:13:49.12\01:13:50.59
God is not seeing, He's
not saying... coming back
01:13:50.79\01:13:52.83
for a purified bride
and a purified church.
01:13:53.03\01:13:55.06
That's why He says:
"I... if I be lifted up
01:13:55.26\01:13:57.27
will draw all men unto Me. "
01:13:57.47\01:13:58.80
But if we don't, as Wintley
Phipps was speaking last week,
01:13:58.83\01:14:01.27
and I've been studying
on this a long time myself,
01:14:01.47\01:14:03.91
the character of God.
You see, people don't care.
01:14:04.11\01:14:07.14
They don't want to see
us. I don't blame them.
01:14:07.34\01:14:09.38
But if they see
Jesus they'll be drawn.
01:14:09.58\01:14:12.31
Now not everybody
will accept it. When Jesus
01:14:12.51\01:14:14.55
was on earth Himself
most people rejected Him.
01:14:14.75\01:14:17.79
But at least
they made a decision.
01:14:18.19\01:14:20.02
They saw the truth;
they had an opportunity.
01:14:20.22\01:14:23.02
It's their problem if
they turn away from it.
01:14:23.22\01:14:25.26
But you and I are
living in such a day
01:14:25.46\01:14:27.73
that we don't want to
say anything because we might
01:14:27.93\01:14:30.60
offend somebody. That's right!
I mean, it's amazing to me.
01:14:30.80\01:14:34.47
Again, God loves everybody.
Has people in all churches.
01:14:34.67\01:14:38.11
And I can't judge
people, but homosexuality
01:14:38.31\01:14:41.28
is a sin according to the Bible.
01:14:41.48\01:14:43.31
Just as stealing is a sin
and just as adultery is a sin
01:14:43.51\01:14:47.08
and just as you can
go down the list of those
01:14:47.28\01:14:49.78
but I said to somebody the
other day: "Isn't it amazing
01:14:49.98\01:14:52.49
how things have changed? "
I talked to a guy yesterday.
01:14:52.69\01:14:55.59
He's a Baptist friend of mine.
01:14:55.79\01:14:57.13
Came out here yesterday and we
went in the office and talked.
01:14:57.29\01:15:00.40
I said: "Now think about
it. If I went to your church
01:15:00.60\01:15:02.83
and I said: 'You know
what? I'd like to be your choir
01:15:03.23\01:15:07.90
director. ' I've got a
little musical background.
01:15:08.10\01:15:10.41
You know, not the greatest.
But hey, it's a small area.
01:15:11.01\01:15:13.78
You probably don't have a
lot of great musical directors
01:15:13.98\01:15:16.61
around here but I could
probably fill in one of those
01:15:16.81\01:15:18.45
churches. I'd like to
be your music director. "
01:15:18.65\01:15:22.45
"Oh really? " I said: "Yeah,
but I've got a little problem.
01:15:22.85\01:15:25.59
You know, I have a little
drinking problem. You know,
01:15:25.99\01:15:29.49
I drink and my dad drank
and my grandfather drank.
01:15:29.69\01:15:32.83
But you know, it's no big deal.
I'll try to keep it under wraps.
01:15:33.03\01:15:36.10
But I guess you
could say I'm an alcoholic.
01:15:36.30\01:15:38.33
Would you let me be
your choir director? "
01:15:38.53\01:15:40.40
He said: "No. " I said: "OK. "
01:15:40.60\01:15:43.04
So I go in and I say: "Hey
look. I really want to be your
01:15:43.24\01:15:46.04
choir director. " Well,
we need a choir director. "
01:15:46.24\01:15:48.31
"Now I need to tell
you that I like women
01:15:48.51\01:15:53.62
and, you know, my
dad was a run around,
01:15:53.82\01:15:57.52
my grandpa. I mean, it's
just kind of in the family.
01:15:57.72\01:15:59.89
No harm done, but I'm just maybe
an adulterer you could say.
01:16:00.09\01:16:03.73
Can I be your choir director?"
01:16:03.93\01:16:05.46
"No, you cannot be the
choir director at our church. "
01:16:05.66\01:16:08.33
No? So I go in and I say:
"You know I really want to be
01:16:08.73\01:16:11.83
the choir director of your
church. " I can go down the list
01:16:12.03\01:16:13.97
on and on. "But I do a few
little drugs. I smoke a little
01:16:14.17\01:16:17.01
pot. Nothing big...
just a little here and there.
01:16:17.21\01:16:19.61
And can I be
your choir director? "
01:16:19.81\01:16:21.88
What are they
going to tell you? No!
01:16:22.08\01:16:24.31
Can't be any choir
director of our church.
01:16:24.51\01:16:27.28
So I say: "Look, let
me try one more time.
01:16:27.68\01:16:30.09
I really want to be the
choir director of your church. "
01:16:30.49\01:16:32.85
So I go to the next guy
and I say: "Now I have a little
01:16:33.05\01:16:36.59
problem but it kind
of runs in the family.
01:16:36.79\01:16:39.26
But all of us sin.
Hey, nobody's perfect.
01:16:39.46\01:16:41.66
I steal a little bit.
01:16:42.26\01:16:44.00
I mean I don't know why I do it.
I just see something that I like
01:16:44.20\01:16:47.54
and I take it. And I'll
try not to take any offering
01:16:47.74\01:16:50.44
or anything. Don't put that
around me. But I still want to
01:16:50.64\01:16:53.07
be your choir director, and
we've all got a few problems,
01:16:53.27\01:16:56.64
you know, so... I
mean, we're all sinners.
01:16:56.85\01:16:59.61
Can I be your choir
director? " "No you can't. "
01:16:59.81\01:17:01.85
OK. So finally I come up
and I say: "You know what?
01:17:02.25\01:17:04.85
I'd like to be the
choir director of your church.
01:17:05.45\01:17:08.12
I've got a musical background;
I can do a decent job.
01:17:08.32\01:17:10.43
But I need to tell
you that I'm homosexual.
01:17:10.83\01:17:14.26
Can I be your choir director? "
01:17:17.50\01:17:20.00
"Well, let me talk to
the board and we'll see. "
01:17:20.20\01:17:22.64
"Well, OK. You can be our
choir director. " I know that
01:17:23.77\01:17:27.18
for a fact. I'm not just
giving you illustrations.
01:17:27.38\01:17:29.08
I know where it's happened.
I don't know what churches
01:17:29.28\01:17:31.41
and I don't even want to say
what the name of the churches
01:17:31.61\01:17:34.05
are, but that is
OK. Now why is that OK?
01:17:34.25\01:17:37.29
Why is it OK that a church...
01:17:38.55\01:17:41.09
Is the Bible clear about
homosexuality as it is stealing?
01:17:41.29\01:17:45.96
Yes! Is it as clear
as it is about... Hey,
01:17:46.16\01:17:48.76
what if I go out and say:
"Hey look, I've got this little
01:17:48.96\01:17:50.97
problem. If I get mad
I kill people sometimes.
01:17:51.17\01:17:53.50
But honestly, if no one
makes me mad I won't do any harm
01:17:53.70\01:17:58.31
to anybody and I'm a
good choir director. "
01:17:58.51\01:18:00.71
You won't hire me
as a church. "Out! "
01:18:00.91\01:18:03.28
Why? Because they
know the difference in sin.
01:18:03.48\01:18:06.25
They know that is sin
when I say that, right?
01:18:06.45\01:18:08.68
All of these other
things. And I said to my friend,
01:18:09.08\01:18:11.35
I said: "They
know that is sin. "
01:18:11.55\01:18:13.62
Now a lot of churches say
"Oh, the old commandments were
01:18:13.82\01:18:15.96
thrown out. " But if I
want to be the choir director
01:18:16.16\01:18:18.86
in any church
they know what sin is.
01:18:19.06\01:18:21.46
They... All of a sudden they
believe the Ten Commandments
01:18:21.66\01:18:24.07
are still valid. I was at
a big church in Tennessee...
01:18:24.27\01:18:29.10
east Tennessee. Baptist
church. They asked me and Melody
01:18:29.30\01:18:32.57
to sing years ago.
01:18:32.77\01:18:34.24
And so I didn't
ask any questions.
01:18:34.44\01:18:37.31
Said: "Sure, we'll go. "
We were singing, so we went
01:18:37.51\01:18:39.51
to this big church. After
the church service was over
01:18:39.71\01:18:42.28
the pastor came up and he
said: "I just want to ask you
01:18:42.68\01:18:47.89
something. " He said: "Somebody
said to me you're one of those
01:18:48.09\01:18:50.73
old Seventh-day Adventists.
" I figured that wasn't very
01:18:50.93\01:18:53.90
positive in his mind
because he said: "Old. "
01:18:54.10\01:18:56.00
And I was younger at the time.
He says: "You're one of those
01:18:56.20\01:18:58.63
old Seventh-day Adventists
but you're not a SDA, are you? "
01:18:58.83\01:19:01.74
And I said: "Yeah, I am. "
01:19:01.94\01:19:03.27
"What? You're a
Seventh-day Adventist? "
01:19:03.30\01:19:05.17
I said: "Yeah,
is that a problem? "
01:19:05.37\01:19:07.14
"Well, no, it's not a problem
with me but man... " he said...
01:19:07.34\01:19:09.78
"you live under that old law. "
01:19:09.98\01:19:11.41
He said: "You live
under that old law.
01:19:11.81\01:19:13.68
You need to be free. " He
said: "You need to be free.
01:19:13.88\01:19:16.08
Why do you live
under that old law? "
01:19:16.28\01:19:17.65
And so I said: "Oh really? "
01:19:18.25\01:19:20.52
Well, they had taken up
an offering for Melody and me
01:19:20.72\01:19:24.66
and they also had taken up their
morning tithes and offerings.
01:19:25.06\01:19:27.93
And of course that was a lot
bigger than our offering, right?
01:19:28.43\01:19:31.03
So we were in the
pastor's study so he said:
01:19:31.23\01:19:33.77
"No... " I said... "So
you're not under the law?
01:19:33.97\01:19:36.07
You don't believe in
the Ten Commandments? "
01:19:36.27\01:19:37.61
"Ten Commandments
were nailed to the cross. "
01:19:37.64\01:19:39.34
I said: "You know
what? You sold me! "
01:19:39.74\01:19:41.14
"You sold me; I'm
with you... I'm with you. "
01:19:41.54\01:19:44.01
I said: Melody,
honey, we need to go. "
01:19:44.21\01:19:45.55
So I walked over to where
the deacons are and I took four
01:19:45.85\01:19:48.52
big plates of the offering.
01:19:48.72\01:19:50.85
I said: "Pastor,
I'll see you all later. "
01:19:51.25\01:19:53.59
I said: "We're going to
take off. " Started walking.
01:19:53.79\01:19:56.22
He came behind me: "Umph,
umph. " Now it's Bro. Shelton.
01:19:56.42\01:19:58.99
"Bro. Shelton, " he
says: "hang on just a second.
01:19:59.19\01:20:01.53
That's not your offering. "
01:20:01.73\01:20:03.06
He said: "This is our
Sunday tithe... " It was big!
01:20:03.16\01:20:07.74
And he said: "But
yours is over here. "
01:20:07.94\01:20:09.64
Well it was one plate,
right? Why would I want to take
01:20:09.84\01:20:11.64
that little one? So I said:
01:20:11.84\01:20:14.41
I mean, there
was a lot... enough.
01:20:14.81\01:20:16.31
We could have gone... We
didn't have to stop at McDonalds
01:20:16.51\01:20:18.55
on that one. We could have
gone to a really... O'Charleys
01:20:18.75\01:20:21.58
or something on that offering
01:20:21.78\01:20:23.12
and driven all the way
home on a full tank of gas.
01:20:23.28\01:20:26.92
But I said to him... I said:
01:20:27.12\01:20:29.92
"Well, I know. " And
he said: "No, really.
01:20:30.13\01:20:33.73
That's the wrong offering. "
01:20:33.93\01:20:35.96
And I walked through the
doors, went up the hallway
01:20:36.16\01:20:38.93
going out to the outside.
He's still following me.
01:20:39.13\01:20:41.87
"Bro. Shelton, I hate to say
that but that's our offering. "
01:20:42.87\01:20:46.07
I said: "No, it's my offering. "
01:20:46.27\01:20:47.71
So he said: "How do
you figure it's yours? "
01:20:48.91\01:20:50.65
I said: "Well...
because I took it. "
01:20:51.05\01:20:53.08
"Well you can't take that. "
01:20:53.28\01:20:54.65
I said: "Why not?
01:20:54.85\01:20:56.18
Why can't I take
that offering? I want it!
01:20:57.55\01:21:00.92
You just told me
there's no stealing.
01:21:01.32\01:21:03.43
You told me the Ten Command-
ments are done away with.
01:21:03.63\01:21:05.43
I haven't done anything wrong.
01:21:05.63\01:21:06.96
What are you going to do?
Call the police and tell them
01:21:07.30\01:21:09.26
I stole? Why there's
nothing wrong with stealing
01:21:09.46\01:21:11.40
'cause you just said
it was done away with. "
01:21:11.60\01:21:13.44
He said: "OK, you made
your point. Can I have my money
01:21:14.20\01:21:16.27
back? " I said: "OK, I'll
give you your money back. "
01:21:16.47\01:21:21.34
But we live in a time where
it's politically "uncorrect"
01:21:21.74\01:21:25.41
but we are being
led around by the noses
01:21:25.61\01:21:28.28
by all sorts of powers,
and they're antichrist powers.
01:21:28.48\01:21:32.65
Somebody says: "Oh well,
you talk about the antichrist.
01:21:33.05\01:21:36.26
The church. But you
know what? I think it's much
01:21:36.46\01:21:37.96
bigger than that. "
Now I'm not the theologian.
01:21:38.16\01:21:39.89
Some of you can
agree and disagree with me.
01:21:40.10\01:21:42.30
One morning a few
years ago I woke up.
01:21:42.70\01:21:44.80
Had a pencil and
paper beside my bed
01:21:45.00\01:21:46.90
and when I woke up like 6 in
the morning the first thought
01:21:47.30\01:21:50.91
that hit me: "The antichrist
is nothing more than the
01:21:51.11\01:21:54.81
spirit of the devil garbed in
the clothes of Christianity. "
01:21:55.01\01:21:58.31
Wow! Do I need to
say that again? Wow!
01:21:58.51\01:22:02.98
The antichrist is nothing more
than the spirit of the devil
01:22:03.18\01:22:06.72
garbed in the
cloak of Christianity.
01:22:07.82\01:22:10.39
So you see, we may
want to look off over here
01:22:11.36\01:22:13.66
and say: "Well,
that's the antichrist;
01:22:13.86\01:22:15.20
this is the antichrist. "
May Chung told me one time.
01:22:15.23\01:22:17.83
She said: "Son,
it's very simple.
01:22:18.13\01:22:19.63
We have two spirits within us.
01:22:19.83\01:22:21.64
We have a spiritual part
01:22:21.84\01:22:26.71
and we have an earthly part. "
01:22:26.91\01:22:28.31
She said: "You
have a spiritual being
01:22:28.51\01:22:31.05
and you have a
beastly being inside of you. "
01:22:31.25\01:22:34.85
Because the
physical part is anti-Christ.
01:22:35.05\01:22:38.75
We can't be saved by our
physical, right? Am I right?
01:22:39.15\01:22:42.02
So we can only be
saved by the spiritual side
01:22:42.42\01:22:44.73
when we invite
Jesus into our life.
01:22:44.93\01:22:46.49
So she said:
"Whichever one you feed the most
01:22:46.70\01:22:49.80
grows the most. If
you're feeding the physical,
01:22:50.93\01:22:54.77
then you don't need to be
looking somewhere else for the
01:22:55.77\01:22:58.47
antichrist
because it's within you. "
01:22:58.67\01:23:00.48
That's right. Antichrist
spirit. Now am I too...
01:23:00.68\01:23:02.74
Is that too? Anybody upset?
01:23:02.94\01:23:04.65
All right. A
couple of people are.
01:23:05.05\01:23:06.55
Well, we're over in
about four minutes anyway.
01:23:06.75\01:23:08.85
So then you think about
it and you take it home.
01:23:09.25\01:23:11.29
My point is this:
that God has called us
01:23:11.69\01:23:14.36
to be movers and shakers
01:23:14.76\01:23:16.59
to do something
for the cause of God.
01:23:16.79\01:23:18.76
And I was praying about it
and I said: "Lord, what are we
01:23:19.66\01:23:21.96
going to do? "
Financially... 3ABN financially
01:23:22.16\01:23:26.10
is the lowest
situation we've been in ever.
01:23:26.30\01:23:29.64
In the last couple
years we're spending sometimes
01:23:30.14\01:23:33.58
$200,000...
$300,000 more a month
01:23:33.78\01:23:36.31
than we're bringing in. And
I said: "This can't go on. "
01:23:36.51\01:23:39.88
We all know this can't go
on. For the last several years
01:23:40.08\01:23:43.45
our donations remained the
same but our spending goes up.
01:23:43.65\01:23:46.59
The government says: "You've
got to make all your stations
01:23:46.79\01:23:48.92
digital... hi-def. " So
that's a few million dollars.
01:23:49.12\01:23:51.89
Then they say: "All of
your equipment in your studios,
01:23:52.29\01:23:55.03
your cameras, all
have to be hi-def. "
01:23:55.23\01:23:56.87
That's several million dollars.
You've got to stay on the air.
01:23:57.07\01:23:59.33
But for some reason...
For some reason our giving is
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the same but all of
our expenses are going up
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tremendously. And yet
no business, religion,
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a church, or a
non-profit ministry...
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none of them can
continue to go forward
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because they're still a
business. You've got to have
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more coming in than going out.
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So I said about six weeks ago:
"Lord... " Seven weeks ago...
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"Lord, we have got
to have some answers.
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We have got to have
help. What can we do?
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I don't know what to do. You're
going to have to help us. "
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And the Lord impressed me about
"The Blessing Is on the GO! "
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And I said: "Wow! This is great.
"The Blessing Is on the GO! "
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That we have - get
this - 18 million SDAs.
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Only 7,000 to 10,000-
tiny fraction of a percent -
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ever give anything to
3ABN on a monthly basis
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or a one-time gift. That's
about how many offerings we get
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a month. And only about 1,000
people out of 18 million give
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even $5 a month to
3ABN. Did you know that?
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I want you to think
about those figures.
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That is nothing really.
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And I said: "Lord, we need
this. And how we gonna do it?
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We've got to do
something to raise money. "
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And I said: "How can we do it?
" We've never gone on the air...
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We've never done beg-a-thons;
we've never done praise-a-thons
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as they call them.
What are we going to do? "
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And the Lord impressed
me of something significant.
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Was we don't need... The
money's not what the problem is.
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I'm thinkin' it's the
money that we're after.
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And the Lord says:
"No, this is a wake-up call
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spiritually because
the money will not help you
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get the gospel to the world
if the people in the church
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don't reflect the
character of God. "
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The people... We have to
have a Latter Rain experience
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in order for Jesus to
come back for a purified bride
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and a purified church.
So the idea came to me:
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"Anybody who gives
$5, $10, $100, or $1,000
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a month, whatever the
Lord impresses you to give,
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every month we will send
you an evangelism tool like
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a CD of sermons or Elder
Carter's, or Mark Finley's
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or Brother Kenny's.
Anybody who wants...
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sometimes a music
CD... because what that does
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it puts you... it
makes you an evangelist.
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You can't do it by yourself.
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In homes, you can't get
the gospel to the world.
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We've got all the equipment
but we can't get it to the world
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without you! So as
we join hands together -
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become evangelistic
team members together -
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we can go forward. But
more importantly to God
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than the money is
revival and reformation. Amen!
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So that's what I'm... I said:
"Lord, I understand it now.
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We're going down.
Finally You woke me up. "
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And I'm trying to do this
to you. I want you all to think
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about it. It's not
just a money situation.
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It's about Jesus
wanting to come back
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and He wants to see His people
with revival and reformation.
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We're not going to
do it by just giving.
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We have to "go ye
into all the world. "
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Jesus says: "All power is
given Me in heaven and earth.
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Go ye therefore. "
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Imagine that.
"All power is given Me.
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Now I'm
transferring that power to you
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and you can do anything in My
name when you come in My name. "
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Amen! I mean what an
incredible opportunity.
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So we're asking
you... all of you at home...
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to join with us in "The
Blessing Is on the GO! "
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Because it's not just
an awakening for finances.
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It's an awakening to make
evangelists out of all of us
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so that we can get
this gospel of the kingdom
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into all the world and Jesus
can come back quickly. Amen!
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