Welcome to another
Offering in Action Segment
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where we highlight for
you one of the projects
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that is in your program...
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that will be a recipient
of the offering this year.
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With me is Jason Fournier
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and he's the
Director of Kibidula Farms.
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Jason, tell us...
where is Kibidula Farms?
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Well, Kibidula is in the
Southern Highlands of Tanzania,
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the Eastern side of Africa.
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And tell us what
are some of the programs
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that flow out of the
ministry of Kibidula.
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At Kibidula we have
an Elementary School
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of about 130 students.
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We not only teach them
ABCs and how to read and write
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but we're... our goal is
to teach them about Jesus
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and that they
become missionaries.
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Now, I know that all of the
children that come to the school
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not all of them are able
to kind of complete the grades
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and the information
that is given to them
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what do you do with them?
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Well, actually in our
school, they all do pass
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but we find in
many schools around...
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we get a lot of
children who fail Primary School
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and once they fail... there's
no opportunity to continue
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in the normal school system
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so we have a
School of Agriculture
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where we take in these Primary
or Elementary School dropouts
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and we teach them agriculture
and life skills such as
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Carpentry, Sewing, Nutrition,
Bible, English, Accounting
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and we have them in
our school for two years,
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it gives them time to mature
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before they go
back to the village
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and become more
successful subsistence farmers.
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So you actually give
them some tools to work with
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so that they...
they haven't failed...
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they can actually live a life.
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Right... and what we
actually find is many of them...
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once they've been
through our school,
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they realize they can pass...
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they go on to
private secondary schools
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and finish their education.
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Wonderful,
wonderful, share with us...
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there's actually
something there...
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so even though it's
called Kibidula Farms
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or Kibi... as we
affectionately call it,
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you do... there's schooling
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and obviously
there's some farming
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that occurs there
as well... agriculture?
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In the past... ASI has
sponsored an Avocado Farm
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which... the goal is to
continue to support the mission
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going on... we've
planted about 10,000 trees
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and they're in the process...
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some are actually
being harvested this year
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and over the next few years,
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that plantation
will reach maturity.
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Debbie: 10,000
trees? Jason: Yes.
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That's a lot of trees,
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so how many workers
do you have... staff...
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at Kibidula Farms
to accomplish that?
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Between staff and workers
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we have about 60
on-campus workers.
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Now I understand that you
also have family recently...
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involved yourself
in some printing work,
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tell us how that
has come about and why.
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Well, Kibidula has been involved
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for many years in
the publishing work,
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we have been translating books,
preparing them for printing
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and arranging printing in either
Korea or America and now Poland
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but...
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more recently... we've realized
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that there is more need
for tools for evangelism
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that church members
can have in their hands
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to give out to the public
and so we recently acquired
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not only a printing press
and its associated equipment
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but a Printer from
here in the United States
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and he is running
this press in his garage.
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Oh, in his garage...
okay... so I've seen...
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I'm a daughter of a
Printer and so I've seen it,
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it's massive and
you need a lot of space
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so he must have a huge garage.
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Actually it's not,
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it's smaller than
a standard garage,
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and when you go in
there, it's very crowded,
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you've got three printers
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and the machine
for cutting the paper
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and then in his kitchen,
he's got the Plate Makers
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and in his living room,
he's got... Bindery Equipment
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and when you're
producing a small book,
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you've got 1,000s of
pages in little stacks
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all over his dining room and
kitchen counters and bedrooms
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so it's quite
complicated, actually.
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Okay, so they might
have him on "Hoarders"
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hoarders of printing
materials and everything,
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so this is a...
this presents the need
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that's reflected in
the project for this year.
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Right, church members
are craving these tools
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and as we've been
sending out these booklets,
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pamphlets and Bibles Studies,
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the orders are just coming
in, people want more and more
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and the space is way too small
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and so the idea is
to build a building
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that will house the equipment
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with enough space to work
comfortably and efficiently.
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Now you said that
there was a lot of need
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and requests
for these materials,
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you shared with
me the experience of
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having gone out
and... someone...
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that I think that's
even gone through the school
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that you saw and how
they were using the materials.
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We have a School of
Evangelism on our place
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and so we have about 50
people per year graduating
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it's a five-month
course, we do it twice a year
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and as they go out...
I don't remember them all
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but we build one-day
churches and many times
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when I'm in distant
areas building these churches,
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I meet the person who
is in charge of that group
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where we're building the church
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and they'll say,
"Do you remember me?"
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and I'm like... "The
face is familiar... "
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they attended our school
and now they've gone out...
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they've started a church
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and they've been
ordering Bible Studies,
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they've been spreading them out
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and here are the
fruits... we see them
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and this is all over
Tanzania... this is happening
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and it's such a
blessing to be a part of this
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and to now witness
first hand time after time...
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these churches are the result
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of the work that's
been going on at Kibidula.
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So just a sidebar question,
so you're involved in building
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one-day churches
all throughout Tanzania
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to meet those needs?
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Right... over the
past several years
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we've built
several hundred churches
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this year alone,
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we are putting up
about a 100 churches
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and it's a huge blessing,
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I can't say how
much blessing this is,
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it's not just housing
members that are already there
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once you build a
church in the area,
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the church grows rapidly because
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it's one of the
ways that attracts people
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that there is a church
here, what's it all about?
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They start to
attend and then they...
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they fill it up...
and it's such a blessing.
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So the one-day
church of some sorts
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is a tool for evangelism
as it attracts people to come.
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It's a huge tool for evangelism.
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And so the printing press,
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the building that will
house the printing press
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will allow you to meet
the needs of the requests
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for literature that you receive.
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That's right.
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Thank you so much Jason,
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we will continue to
pray for Kibidula Farms,
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it's way more than a farm
but it's meeting God's bidding.
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Thank you very
much and thank you ASI
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for supporting these projects.
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Now coming to the
podium is a team of four,
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Henry and Arleen Stubbs,
they lead out World Youth Group
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and with them is Luis
Armador and Yanet Carballo
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who are coming,
so come right on...
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okay, you guys come
on this way, you know,
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when you get a
whole lot of people,
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we got to get close
together, all right...
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very good, all right,
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so, Henry, first of all
I'd like you to share with us
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a little bit
about World Youth Group,
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give us an overview of
what this is and what they do.
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World Youth Group was
a Sabbath School class
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in a little church plant
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my parents
started in South Carolina,
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it was a little group of youth
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that wanted to do
something for Jesus,
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it was originally in Westminster
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the WYG is what the youth
started calling themselves
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when we started
getting involved in missions
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first in Chile and later in Cuba
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and as it outgrew
and became a 501c3
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the youth kind of
renamed it and they said,
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it's not just Westminister
Youth Group anymore,
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it's World Youth Group,
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and we do four things
in Cuba by God's grace,
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and we're so grateful
for what the Lord has done,
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we do nothing but
He does everything
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and we are just grateful.
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Those four things are: Train,
Send, Harvest and Establish.
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You got it?
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Train, Send,
Harvest and Establish.
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We train young
people, we train youth in Cuba
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to dedicate a year
or more of their life,
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many of them are
just staying with it now
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because they're just
excited about evangelism
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but they go out and
learn how to help people
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in areas where we
have no Adventist presence.
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That's our burden... Debbie...
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it is areas where... in Cuba...
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where we've never been
before as an Adventist Church
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no Sabbath Keepers,
very little Protestantism
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and God has blessed.
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Secondly, we
support them to go out,
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we have to buy a
house in that town
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and give them
some money to live on
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you can live on 25
dollars a month in Cuba
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and we have 40
full-time workers now,
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we're going to 60 and
hope to go to a 100 soon.
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And the third thing
that we do is harvest.
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We come down with North
American young people...
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North American youth
and join the Cuban youth
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in this new Unentered area
after they've been there a year
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and have a harvest and
lastly... we establish.
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We buy a house,
we build a church,
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we're building a school in Cuba,
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we're building a
Medical Missionary School
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and a Bible Worker School
to have a permanent presence
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right now they've let
us use the SDA Seminary
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that's where we've been working
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in harmony with
them, it's been a blessing.
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And so that's
actually the project,
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that we want to be able
to support World Youth Group
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so that they can
build or purchase
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and make provision for
seven more house churches.
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Let me ask Arlene a question,
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Arleen, share with me...
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you've been working with
these youth from the beginning
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what kind of impact is
this having on their lives?
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Well, it's been
exciting for us and for them,
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we started with just one
youth and before we knew it
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we had almost as many
youth as we did adults
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attending the whole church
but they went around the world.
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At one time we had youth working
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I think, in about six
different places as missionaries
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and several have gone to
Southern to study Theology,
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some are pastors
and pastors' wives
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and we still stay in
contact with many of them
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and we love them
and we're like family
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and just like all of us here
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and we just praise the
Lord for the opportunity
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to work with youth and...
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God has really blessed
in their lives and in ours.
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Amen. Amen...
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Now I'd like to actually
shift it over to the Cuban...
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the Cuban side, okay,
with Brother Luis and Yanet.
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All right, Yanet tell
me what is your role...
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you lived there in Cuba...
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Yes... yes, we did...
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And so, this is
actually your first visit
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to the States... to America?
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Yes, it is.
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Okay, tell me what your
role is with World Youth Group.
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Well, I first
started as a translator,
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then I turned into a teacher
and then I turned into a mother
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so everybody knows
that that being a mother
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is a very demanding task
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so that's mostly what I do,
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I take a little
time to go and translate
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and then I take a
little time to go and teach
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so this is how we got involved.
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Okay and this is a
husband and wife team
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so your husband...
Luis... what is your role
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at the Cuban
Union and tell me how
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World Youth
Group Harvest Ministry
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has impacted the evangelism
efforts for the Union.
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Well, I'm working there as the
Spirit of Prophecy Coordinator
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for the Cuban Union
and it's been a blessing
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working with this ministry.
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We met them in 2006, we
started working with them
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as a helper and
translator as well,
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in 2010, I was called to serve
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in this position
in the Cuban Union
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and then the experience
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we had had in the
past with World Youth Group
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we tried to implement
that in the whole island
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that means that now the three
Conferences are in the mission
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the Bible Workers
there have been trained
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and those
Conferences have been equipped
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with all the devices
they need for Health Expos.
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Today, I can
say... I can tell you that
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this is the most
effective missionary tool
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in the Cuban Union a
lot of youth are on fire
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they want to be a
student of the LIGHT School,
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every year, we
receive a lot of phone calls,
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they want to be a
part of this dream as well.
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And what kind of impact has
it had in terms of response,
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have you had baptisms,
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you've got
churches that are growing...
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Wonderful question,
we have 40 Bible Workers,
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they are working full time
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over 240 graduates
from the LIGHT School,
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we have had five
one-month LIGHT Schools there
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now we're planning to
start a six-month LIGHT School,
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lot of Leaders and Laymen...
they are really desiring
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a Bible Worker...
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Medical Missionary
in their communities.
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So you mentioned... I
want to bring this back
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so that we don't miss it,
you said, "A LIGHT School?"
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So is this LIGHT that
comes to provide the training?
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The curriculum...
yes... provided by LIGHT...
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they really help us.
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Okay so here again we see the
connection... that's right...
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and the collaboration of our
ministries together for service.
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Wonderful... wonderful.
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For me this is a perfect example
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of how the formal
structure of the church
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can be blended with the
self-supporting ministries,
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they are working in coordination
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with the Leaders
of the Conferences
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and the Union... going
forward to win souls for Christ.
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Well, praise God,
thank you very much,
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Henry and
Arleen... Luis and Yanet...
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God bless you as you
continue to serve Him in Cuba
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with World Youth Group.
Luis: God bless you too.
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Greg... welcome... you're from?
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Originally, I'm from
around Grand Rapids, Michigan.
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And, tell us a little bit about
your upbringing as a young adult
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or adolescent there.
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I was raised a
Seventh-day Adventist,
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I'd... I had a really...
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I had a really average
Seventh-day Adventist upbringing
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I was a Pathfinder,
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a member of the lonia
Seventh-day Adventist Church
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so... an awesome childhood.
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And so then, things changed
a little bit with your family
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and you went to a public
school, then what happened?
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Well, my parents divorced
and ultimately I was led into
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a public school system
where I made the wrong friends,
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started making the wrong
choices... wrong decisions
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which ultimately led me
into a juvenile life of crime.
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And what did that include?
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It started with
smoking cigarettes,
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sneaking out of the house,
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ultimately it led
to smoking Marijuana
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and ultimately... beyond
that... to selling Marijuana.
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And so, you
actually became a dealer
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and this became your
profession, give us some idea
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as to how much business
you were doing in drug pushing.
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By the age of 18,
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I had made the
acquaintance of an individual
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who was in the Mexican Mafia,
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he was not your average supplier
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and by the age of...
about nineteen and a half,
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I was selling on average...
about 40 pounds a week.
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And so, in dollars that's...
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you were selling about 8,000
dollars worth of drugs a day?
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Yes.
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And that profited you...?
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About 2,000 dollars a
day would be the average,
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and some days I'd have
some sales of over 32,000,
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I'd make eight grand a sale...
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Eight thousand dollars
a day that you were making
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and this lasted
for a number of years
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but then in 2002 what happened?
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Hmmm...
ultimately, I was arrested,
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the DEA along with Central
Michigan Enforcement Team
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and lonia County
Sheriff's office,
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and State Police, arrested me.
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And you were not only
dealing... you started...
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you were addicted and
even doing some other crime,
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robbery and...
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Yes, absolutely,
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it never stopped
with the Marijuana,
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Marijuana
graduated into Ecstasy,
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from Ecstasy... Cocaine...
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from Cocaine came
Shrooms and pharmaceuticals
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and by the time
that I was arrested,
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I was an extremely bad addict.
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And so, when you were arrested,
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you were first in
jail and then prison,
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there's a difference... and
what happened to you in there
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when you saw what
you saw in the prison?
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Well, I'll back
up a little bit, I...
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for years I had
been using drugs,
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and in using drugs, I'd
done a lot of bad things
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including robbing my own parents
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and by 2005, my
addiction was so bad
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that I was shooting
up Panthenol Patches
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mixed with Crack Cocaine
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and my doctor's office cut
me off with my pain patches
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which then led me
to breaking into homes
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which then led to a
seven-year prison term.
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And so, what happened in prison?
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It was when I got to prison,
I started looking around me
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then I realized
who I had become.
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I could look around and I
could see these individuals
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that had been in prison
for ten, twenty years...
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some were doing life
on the installment plan,
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coming back and
forth every couple of years
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and I could see that if
something didn't change...
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and change drastically,
that was going to be me.
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And so, did people visit you
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and bring you
Bibles and material
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to support you... what happened?
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No... ha... ha...
ha... ha... no they did not
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and for the first few
months, it was just myself,
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my parents used tough love,
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they knew that if they
didn't create an absence of...
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of attention, I was
just going to continue
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down the path that I had been
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so, by the time
that I got to prison,
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I had not had the family
relationship that I was used to,
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I had nobody to rely on
and I was left with the fact
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that if something didn't change,
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my life was
going to be totaled...
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it was going to be drastic so...
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So, when you experienced this,
you saw that God was able to
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reach you and that
you did have value,
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that He was still...
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even though your family
had lost connection with you
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and even pastors who you
wrote to... didn't respond...
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but you still felt
connected with God.
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Well, that's true, as I
looked around I realized
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that my only option was God,
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I'd been raised a
Seventh-day Adventist,
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I knew that Jesus
Christ was my only option
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and so the day came...
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after 16 days of
silence in myself,
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that I finally gave up
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and I didn't really
know how to pray anymore,
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it had been so long
since I talked to God
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but that night I
got on my knees and I...
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and I started
asking God for forgiveness
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for everything
that I had ever done
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and I was very specific and
so as I'm confessing my sins,
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tears started
falling down my face
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and I cried and I
poured my heart out to God
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and after a couple
of hours of praying
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and crying my heart out to God,
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I got up and I laid on my bunk
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and as I laid on my bunk,
00:20:36.33\00:20:37.67
and I've told this story before,
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I swear I felt the weight
of my sin rise off of my body
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and it was then that I
knew that I'd been forgiven
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and it was that sense of hope...
00:20:45.57\00:20:48.84
of knowing that God
loved me that I was cared for,
00:20:48.88\00:20:51.28
then I knew that no matter
what happened beyond that point,
00:20:51.31\00:20:54.05
God was going to take
care of me... that He loved me.
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And so your past
doesn't dictate...
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you have a saying,
00:21:01.72\00:21:03.63
"Your past doesn't
dictate your future... "
00:21:03.66\00:21:06.49
and so you felt
free at that time
00:21:06.53\00:21:08.76
and that without Christ,
there is certain destruction.
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Oh, absolutely...
so, once I was forgiven,
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I didn't know what was in store
00:21:16.47\00:21:17.87
but I knew that my life
was going to be different
00:21:17.91\00:21:20.81
so as the devil tempted
and as these choices came,
00:21:20.84\00:21:23.75
I decided to turn
my life over to God
00:21:23.78\00:21:25.65
and it happened
one decision at a time
00:21:25.68\00:21:27.52
and over the
next couple of years
00:21:27.58\00:21:29.75
and as I grew into God,
my father had sent me a Bible
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and the "Conflict of Ages Set"
00:21:32.32\00:21:33.79
and I began studying and
the next thing you know...
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I'm sharing in prison
00:21:35.19\00:21:36.52
and the next
thing after that is...
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I'm having Bible Studies in
prison, from prison to prison,
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I transferred 13
times over seven years,
00:21:41.33\00:21:43.37
but I watched as God
took my heart and changed it
00:21:43.40\00:21:46.74
from a heart of
stone to a heart of flesh
00:21:46.77\00:21:48.47
and I began looking
at my fellow prisoners
00:21:48.50\00:21:50.17
not as convicts but as people
00:21:50.21\00:21:52.74
that needed the
same freedom that I had.
00:21:52.77\00:21:54.84
So when you got out of prison,
00:21:54.88\00:21:57.01
you started a
ministry, what's that called?
00:21:57.05\00:21:58.91
The Ministry is called,
"Conviction Ministries. "
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We have to move right
along... and so the...
00:22:01.08\00:22:03.75
it's basically
based on freedom from sin,
00:22:03.79\00:22:06.39
it's not just prison...
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going and
ministering to prisoners,
00:22:08.59\00:22:10.46
it's freeing them from sin.
00:22:10.49\00:22:12.23
Correct, my
ministry is dedicated
00:22:12.26\00:22:14.93
to offering individuals
the same hope that God gave me.
00:22:14.96\00:22:17.97
And so, when you
got out of prison,
00:22:18.00\00:22:20.74
you connected
with your community,
00:22:20.77\00:22:22.14
and who were some of the people
you went in... connected with?
00:22:22.17\00:22:25.77
Well, most recently the
Chief of Police in the town,
00:22:25.84\00:22:27.98
the very Officer
who used to pursue me
00:22:28.01\00:22:29.71
and did his best to arrest me
00:22:29.74\00:22:31.98
is now the one
handing out my book.
00:22:32.01\00:22:33.82
He's actually
sharing my testimony
00:22:33.88\00:22:35.65
and helping
others in my community
00:22:35.68\00:22:37.49
understand that
with Jesus Christ,
00:22:37.52\00:22:39.35
freedom from sin is a reality.
00:22:39.42\00:22:41.06
And what's the
name of your book?
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It's called,
"Where Darkness Reigned. "
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And you feel
that you can restore
00:22:44.53\00:22:47.60
and you were able to heal things
00:22:47.63\00:22:50.70
and correct things
that you had broken.
00:22:50.73\00:22:52.80
Absolutely.
00:22:52.83\00:22:54.17
And so, tell us
a little bit about
00:22:54.20\00:22:56.37
how people can become involved
00:22:56.40\00:22:58.77
and to avoid that 90
percent return to prison
00:22:58.84\00:23:04.41
and you can
help them avoid that.
00:23:04.45\00:23:07.45
One of the biggest
problems that I faced
00:23:07.48\00:23:09.45
upon getting
out of prison was...
00:23:09.48\00:23:10.89
finding
individuals that understood
00:23:10.95\00:23:12.62
that just because
you were a prisoner,
00:23:12.65\00:23:14.29
you were a drug addict or
you were addicted to something
00:23:14.32\00:23:16.79
doesn't mean that
you don't have value,
00:23:16.83\00:23:18.26
with Christ
Jesus, we are reborn,
00:23:18.29\00:23:20.63
we become new
creations, we are a new creature
00:23:20.66\00:23:23.67
and I... Conviction
Ministries is dedicated
00:23:23.70\00:23:26.63
to making that a
reality in other people's lives
00:23:26.67\00:23:29.20
and so if individuals want to
become part of that experience,
00:23:29.24\00:23:32.37
give me a phone call.
00:23:32.41\00:23:33.74
If you have a son or
daughter that's addicted
00:23:33.78\00:23:35.21
or you know
somebody that's struggling,
00:23:35.24\00:23:37.05
give me a phone call, I'd
be more than happy to help.
00:23:37.08\00:23:39.15
So oftentimes in
church we sit there
00:23:39.18\00:23:41.45
and act like everything's okay
but there may be someone here,
00:23:41.48\00:23:45.22
there may be
someone in your church,
00:23:45.25\00:23:47.09
who is suffering or
has somebody who's at risk,
00:23:47.16\00:23:51.09
addicted to
drugs... other things...
00:23:51.13\00:23:54.06
committing crime,
they may be in prison
00:23:54.10\00:23:56.93
but the church pretends that
there's really not a problem
00:23:56.97\00:24:01.14
so if you know of somebody like
that or someone in your family,
00:24:01.17\00:24:05.24
contact Greg at his
ministry, Conviction Ministries
00:24:05.27\00:24:12.18
and he will help
reach out to these people
00:24:12.21\00:24:14.75
and give them the
hope that they need.
00:24:14.78\00:24:17.32
Greg: Amen... thank you.
00:24:17.35\00:24:20.96
My name is Floyd Courtney
and I have the privilege
00:24:20.99\00:24:25.06
of interviewing two
very interesting ministries
00:24:25.09\00:24:29.03
the first one is... Dale Mole,
00:24:29.06\00:24:32.00
he's a Physician and Dale,
00:24:32.03\00:24:34.90
you told me a little bit about
your beginning of your career
00:24:34.94\00:24:38.87
and it was an interesting
way, it seemed like to me
00:24:38.91\00:24:40.98
that the Lord was preparing you
for this part of your career,
00:24:41.01\00:24:43.98
tell me a little bit about it.
00:24:44.05\00:24:45.81
Yes, well I was a Physician
in the United States Navy
00:24:45.85\00:24:49.42
for over 33 years and
served part of that time
00:24:49.45\00:24:55.09
aboard submarines
00:24:55.12\00:24:56.46
and have been stationed around
the world in many countries
00:24:56.49\00:24:59.43
including spending
time in Iraq and Afghanistan
00:24:59.46\00:25:03.57
so... and the South Pole and so
00:25:03.60\00:25:08.80
I had a pretty good
idea of what it was like
00:25:08.84\00:25:11.57
to try and provide good
medical care in bad places
00:25:11.61\00:25:15.68
and when the opportunity
came up to go to Nepal,
00:25:15.71\00:25:19.71
I thought this might be an
opportunity to apply the skills
00:25:19.75\00:25:23.95
that I had acquired
over the course of a lifetime
00:25:23.99\00:25:27.19
to do the Lord's work.
00:25:27.26\00:25:28.72
All right, so, what
was the transition...
00:25:28.76\00:25:31.33
how did you segue over from
being a Physician in the Navy
00:25:31.36\00:25:35.30
to getting to Nepal you
said was... is where you have
00:25:35.33\00:25:39.23
done your ministry lately.
00:25:39.27\00:25:41.17
Right, well, when I
retired from the Navy,
00:25:41.20\00:25:44.44
I served in the
South Pole for a year
00:25:44.47\00:25:46.78
at Amunden-Scott
South Pole Station,
00:25:46.81\00:25:49.04
I was... for that year...
00:25:49.11\00:25:51.15
I was the Southern-most
Adventist in the world
00:25:51.18\00:25:55.95
but when I came back,
I was in church one day
00:25:55.98\00:26:00.72
and Lowell Cooper, who many
in the audience know I'm sure,
00:26:00.76\00:26:04.99
came up to me
in church and said,
00:26:05.03\00:26:06.96
"Dale, I know you retired from
the Navy, what are you doing?"
00:26:07.00\00:26:09.36
I said, "Well, I don't
have to rent my time anymore,
00:26:09.40\00:26:13.57
I've reached
that stage in my life
00:26:13.60\00:26:15.04
and I'm looking around for
something interesting to do"
00:26:15.07\00:26:18.51
and several months later,
00:26:18.54\00:26:21.54
my wife, Susan, and
I... find ourselves in Nepal.
00:26:21.58\00:26:24.75
Okay, tell us about that,
00:26:24.78\00:26:26.15
something interesting that you
found to do for the Lord now.
00:26:26.21\00:26:28.52
Yeah, well, I tell you,
00:26:28.55\00:26:30.49
when we first
stepped off the plane,
00:26:30.52\00:26:32.05
we actually... I don't
know what my wife's reaction was
00:26:32.09\00:26:35.26
but I almost felt like
getting back on the plane
00:26:35.29\00:26:37.59
and heading home,
but I got to tell you
00:26:37.63\00:26:39.76
the first week I was there,
I probably saw more miracles
00:26:39.79\00:26:43.87
performed than in the previous
decade in the United States,
00:26:43.90\00:26:47.94
the... just... one
quick story if I could,
00:26:47.97\00:26:53.41
there was a
little ten-year old boy
00:26:53.44\00:26:57.11
who had untreated Typhoid fever
00:26:57.15\00:26:59.68
and he came into
our Emergency Department
00:26:59.71\00:27:02.52
on the verge of death,
00:27:02.55\00:27:03.89
he was in what we
call, "Septic Shock"
00:27:03.92\00:27:06.09
and we took him
to the operating room
00:27:06.12\00:27:08.36
and performed surgery,
00:27:08.39\00:27:11.89
he had a hole in
his bowel that we closed
00:27:11.93\00:27:14.26
and then he went to
our Intensive Care Unit
00:27:14.30\00:27:16.56
which is where I first saw him,
00:27:16.60\00:27:17.93
he... he was on
the verge of death...
00:27:17.97\00:27:23.20
he was just...
00:27:23.24\00:27:25.44
his Septic Shock state has
an 80 percent mortality rate,
00:27:25.47\00:27:29.34
he then developed a condition
that we call "Adult... "
00:27:29.38\00:27:32.68
not adult but "Acute
Respiratory Distress Syndrome"
00:27:32.71\00:27:36.02
which also has a
very high mortality rate,
00:27:36.05\00:27:38.39
so this ten-year old Nepali boy,
00:27:38.42\00:27:41.36
I thought was not
going to survive the night
00:27:41.39\00:27:44.63
and we prayed... the
family was there crying...
00:27:44.69\00:27:47.86
you know, we told them
it was in the Lord's hands,
00:27:47.93\00:27:51.00
I came in the next morning
00:27:51.03\00:27:54.20
and not only was he still
alive but he was doing better,
00:27:54.24\00:27:57.84
that afternoon he
was off the ventilator,
00:27:57.87\00:28:00.88
two days later, he
was sitting up smiling
00:28:00.91\00:28:03.85
in our Pediatric Ward.
00:28:03.88\00:28:05.21
Interviewer:
Wow! praise the Lord.
00:28:05.25\00:28:06.58
That is why, I went to Nepal and
that's why I'm staying in Nepal.
00:28:06.61\00:28:10.75
Tell us a little bit about...
on the news we heard about
00:28:10.79\00:28:13.62
earthquakes in Nepal,
00:28:13.66\00:28:15.69
how has that impacted the
hospital and your work there?
00:28:15.72\00:28:19.56
Well, initially, we had
nine patients that arrived...
00:28:19.59\00:28:23.37
they were dead on arrival...
00:28:23.40\00:28:24.73
but we treated over a
1,000 earthquake victims
00:28:24.77\00:28:27.47
and all the patients that
arrived there remained alive,
00:28:27.50\00:28:31.37
and if I had more
time I could tell you,
00:28:31.41\00:28:34.54
a number of
stories about true miracles
00:28:34.58\00:28:38.31
that occurred
during that time period
00:28:38.38\00:28:40.35
but the earthquake itself
00:28:40.38\00:28:41.95
was a real tragedy
for the Country of Nepal,
00:28:41.98\00:28:44.99
it set it back
probably about a decade,
00:28:45.02\00:28:46.76
but it has also provided a real
opportunity for the Lord's work
00:28:46.82\00:28:51.13
many medical
facilities were destroyed
00:28:51.16\00:28:53.96
so I think it is an opportunity
to expand Adventist Healthcare
00:28:54.00\00:28:58.07
in Nepal... many
schools were destroyed
00:28:58.10\00:29:00.77
I think it's an opportunity
to expand Adventist education
00:29:00.84\00:29:04.91
in Nepal and we have
had some great partners here
00:29:04.97\00:29:10.25
in the world church,
especially Asian Aid USA,
00:29:10.28\00:29:15.48
Three Angels Broadcasting
has really helped us raise money
00:29:15.52\00:29:20.36
that is badly
needed for the hospital
00:29:20.39\00:29:22.69
not only just from an
earthquake standpoint but also
00:29:22.72\00:29:26.16
just in the replacing of
aging equipment and facilities.
00:29:26.19\00:29:28.83
Okay Brother, in the last
little bit of time we have
00:29:28.86\00:29:31.50
tell us what is witnessing like,
00:29:31.53\00:29:33.20
I understand that there are laws
00:29:33.23\00:29:34.87
that are making it
more difficult there
00:29:34.90\00:29:36.84
versus the United
States and other places.
00:29:36.91\00:29:38.81
Yeah it is, you
can be put in prison
00:29:38.84\00:29:41.68
for proselytization
00:29:41.71\00:29:43.45
so ours is
certainly a work of ministry
00:29:43.48\00:29:46.21
not a work...
a... oh... I'm sorry...
00:29:46.25\00:29:49.12
it's a ministry
of work, of service
00:29:49.15\00:29:51.95
and not a ministry of
Word but what we try and do is
00:29:51.99\00:29:56.86
have our patients see the
compassion and love of Christ
00:29:56.93\00:30:01.76
reflected in the care
that we provide to them
00:30:01.80\00:30:04.20
and by that method, we
help to win souls in Nepal.
00:30:04.23\00:30:07.24
All right...
have you seen any...
00:30:07.27\00:30:09.84
what response have
you seen to the work
00:30:09.90\00:30:12.57
as far as spiritually,
00:30:12.61\00:30:14.14
are you seeing some
changes in people's lives
00:30:14.18\00:30:16.91
and things like that or...?
00:30:16.95\00:30:19.51
Yes, I think very much so,
00:30:19.55\00:30:22.02
Susan and I have only
been there eight months
00:30:22.08\00:30:25.49
but there are a lot of
really talented Nepali people,
00:30:25.52\00:30:28.92
a lot of people who are really
on fire for Christ, if you will,
00:30:28.96\00:30:34.70
so I am very optimistic
about the work in Nepal.
00:30:34.73\00:30:37.27
Wonderful.
00:30:37.30\00:30:39.00
And especially with the help of
people in the audience as well,
00:30:39.03\00:30:42.27
we certainly need your prayers.
00:30:42.30\00:30:43.87
Right... well thank you so much
00:30:43.91\00:30:45.41
for sharing with us about
your work in Nepal, God bless...
00:30:45.44\00:30:46.94
Thank you.
00:30:46.98\00:30:48.31
And next we have Tim Rasmussen,
00:30:48.34\00:30:54.48
Tim is the
President of Waters for Life,
00:30:54.52\00:31:00.96
it's an
Organization that provides
00:31:00.99\00:31:03.22
the true physical
water and the water of Life,
00:31:03.26\00:31:05.76
and he has his
crew with him here,
00:31:05.79\00:31:08.26
and I'll let him
introduce them...
00:31:08.30\00:31:11.50
Some time ago, I was wondering
00:31:11.53\00:31:14.80
how can I tell you about
Water for Life in seven minutes.
00:31:14.84\00:31:18.37
Through the modern digital
age I've discovered a way,
00:31:18.41\00:31:21.88
this is not a telephone,
it's a reality recorder
00:31:21.91\00:31:25.65
and I'm going to push playback
00:31:25.71\00:31:27.65
and take you
back to a conversation
00:31:27.68\00:31:29.82
that occurred some time ago
00:31:29.85\00:31:31.19
between Gary
Bartholomew and his son, Rod.
00:31:31.22\00:31:34.72
Well, now that we got
this drill rig set up here
00:31:34.76\00:31:41.53
and I'm a new volunteer,
00:31:41.56\00:31:44.00
I'd like to ask
you some questions,
00:31:44.03\00:31:45.53
how did Water for
Life get started anyway?
00:31:45.60\00:31:50.14
Rod, it's a
"beauty from ashes story,"
00:31:50.17\00:31:54.41
the ashes was
20,000 dollars spent
00:31:54.44\00:31:58.61
for a contractor on a
failed attempt in Guatemala
00:31:58.65\00:32:02.75
the beauty was... when
the Lord called and said,
00:32:02.78\00:32:06.69
"You grew up... a well
driller, let's go for it. "
00:32:06.72\00:32:10.23
There seems to be a
lot of people around here
00:32:10.26\00:32:14.53
helping... do you pay them a lot
of money to come down and help?
00:32:14.56\00:32:18.23
Everyone involved in
Water for Life is a volunteer,
00:32:18.27\00:32:21.70
we have about 40 each year
00:32:21.74\00:32:24.54
that go down to
help in the well drilling
00:32:24.57\00:32:27.91
and the other efforts we do...
00:32:27.94\00:32:30.55
and many from different faiths.
00:32:30.61\00:32:33.15
How many wells have you
drilled so far in Guatemala?
00:32:33.21\00:32:37.99
We've drilled 79...
00:32:38.02\00:32:39.35
Wow! how many people are
drinking from those wells?
00:32:39.39\00:32:45.16
We figure, maybe 25,000 now,
00:32:45.19\00:32:47.56
most villages we
drill in are remote
00:32:47.60\00:32:50.57
and there might be 200 to
600 people in each village.
00:32:50.60\00:32:53.97
Wow! that sounds like a lot,
00:32:54.00\00:32:56.71
does that really help the
people though just a well...
00:32:56.74\00:33:00.24
just clean water?
00:33:00.28\00:33:01.61
Well, in the words of
the health ministry there,
00:33:01.64\00:33:04.25
they say, mortality dropped
00:33:04.28\00:33:06.65
where Water for
Life drills wells,
00:33:06.68\00:33:09.45
in the words of the
villagers, they say,
00:33:09.48\00:33:13.12
"Thank you for
that well last year,
00:33:13.15\00:33:15.69
we've lost none of our babies
since you drilled last year. "
00:33:15.72\00:33:19.49
Amen.
00:33:19.53\00:33:21.56
Is there still a
need for more wells,
00:33:21.60\00:33:24.13
I mean, 79 wells,
we've already drilled...
00:33:24.17\00:33:27.04
is there a need for anymore?
00:33:27.07\00:33:28.90
In the radius that we work
00:33:28.94\00:33:30.71
there's need for hundreds
and hundreds more wells.
00:33:30.77\00:33:34.11
And I've also seen
Dentists and Nurses
00:33:34.14\00:33:38.81
working out in the different
villages, tell me about those.
00:33:38.85\00:33:42.52
Yes, we provide medical
and dental care as we can
00:33:42.55\00:33:45.62
in the villages where we drill,
00:33:45.65\00:33:47.56
we also ship a lot
of medical equipment
00:33:47.59\00:33:50.33
in the yearly
container that we ship down
00:33:50.36\00:33:53.03
with the drilling
supplies and equipment.
00:33:53.06\00:33:55.73
And on my way here, I noticed,
00:33:55.76\00:33:58.87
we drove right past
an Adventist Church,
00:33:58.90\00:34:01.80
are we involved
with that at all?
00:34:01.84\00:34:04.51
We've drilled
wells, bought property,
00:34:04.54\00:34:07.28
built a church
and seen it fill up,
00:34:07.31\00:34:10.01
what a thrill,
00:34:10.05\00:34:11.38
we've partnered with
Upper Columbia Conference
00:34:11.41\00:34:13.82
in this very
Conference right here
00:34:13.85\00:34:15.52
in our Youth
Department in building churches,
00:34:15.55\00:34:18.02
we've partnered with
other ministries also
00:34:18.05\00:34:20.49
such as Amazing Facts.
00:34:20.52\00:34:21.86
Probably oh... 12 or 14
churches now, I believe.
00:34:21.89\00:34:28.06
Wow! do you think that...
00:34:28.10\00:34:30.83
that the wells really
help with the Evangelism?
00:34:30.87\00:34:34.47
Rod, when we provide a well,
00:34:34.50\00:34:38.04
spend that few days
drilling in a village,
00:34:38.07\00:34:41.54
we gain a
relationship... we never lose,
00:34:41.58\00:34:45.01
we never lose that relationship.
00:34:45.05\00:34:47.32
How do we develop
people for these churches?
00:34:47.35\00:34:54.16
How did we develop
members to fill these churches?
00:34:54.19\00:34:57.26
We hire Bible
Workers, we do VBS,
00:34:57.29\00:34:59.66
we have people come
down from the United States
00:34:59.69\00:35:02.10
and do Evangelistic Meetings,
00:35:02.13\00:35:03.83
Light Bearers sends
millions of pieces of literature
00:35:03.87\00:35:09.77
in Spanish, we
ship pallets of Bibles,
00:35:09.80\00:35:13.71
we ship cases of Bible Studies
to help build those churches.
00:35:13.74\00:35:18.68
Well, what do you... do
you have to be a driller
00:35:18.71\00:35:23.69
to come and help out
Water for Life down in Guatemala
00:35:23.72\00:35:27.46
I think there are
several people out here
00:35:27.49\00:35:29.32
that probably aren't drillers.
00:35:29.39\00:35:31.46
No Rod, we need motel maids too,
00:35:31.49\00:35:33.90
we build a shop
and several rooms
00:35:33.93\00:35:36.26
and so, we need motel maids
00:35:36.30\00:35:39.63
and we need
helpers for the drillers,
00:35:39.67\00:35:42.97
we need painters,
construction personnel,
00:35:43.00\00:35:46.24
we need translators, we
need more medical people,
00:35:46.27\00:35:49.58
dental people.
00:35:49.61\00:35:51.28
That's a little bit
about the Water for Life.
00:35:51.31\00:35:59.72
I have some friends
from Guatemala here,
00:35:59.75\00:36:03.49
Mr. Leonardo
and his wife, Dixel,
00:36:03.53\00:36:07.43
Mr. Berny, what
does Water for Life mean
00:36:07.46\00:36:11.37
for the people of Guatemala?
00:36:11.43\00:36:12.77
To the people of
Guatemala, it means hope, love,
00:36:12.80\00:36:17.71
everlasting life in
Jesus Christ our Lord,
00:36:17.74\00:36:20.61
gracias, agua para la vida...
00:36:20.68\00:36:22.58
thank you Water for Life.
00:36:22.61\00:36:24.45
That's what I can tell
you about Water for Life
00:36:24.48\00:36:29.08
and show you
about Water for Life,
00:36:29.12\00:36:30.62
what I invite you to
do is come and join us.
00:36:30.65\00:36:34.66
Water for Life provides
life and Life-giving water
00:36:34.69\00:36:38.83
and the everlasting gospel
to people that are thirsty
00:36:38.86\00:36:42.96
and hungry for it,
thank you very much.
00:36:43.00\00:36:45.30
Audience clapping...
00:36:45.33\00:36:55.04
Boy! you've been
enjoying these stories?
00:36:55.11\00:36:58.61
It's amazing what
God's doing around the world,
00:36:58.65\00:37:01.52
I'm excited to be
here this evening with you
00:37:01.55\00:37:04.39
with Millie and John Youngberg,
00:37:04.42\00:37:06.09
tell me where you're from
00:37:06.15\00:37:08.02
and a little bit about your
ministry and what you guys do.
00:37:08.09\00:37:10.33
Well, we live in
Berrien Springs Michigan
00:37:10.36\00:37:13.36
and we're both retired
from Andrews University
00:37:13.40\00:37:16.36
and our ministry is,
00:37:16.40\00:37:17.80
"WIN! Wellness,
Homes of Hope and Health. "
00:37:17.83\00:37:20.27
Very good, so tell
me a couple of things
00:37:20.30\00:37:22.54
that you guys are
doing in your ministry.
00:37:22.57\00:37:24.64
Well, we are touching
the world with our ministry,
00:37:24.67\00:37:29.28
we felt that God had called us
to be a blessing to the nations
00:37:29.31\00:37:35.28
and that's what
we're trying to do
00:37:35.32\00:37:36.89
and... you tell us
about the Jabez Prayer.
00:37:36.92\00:37:40.76
Jabez prayed that God
would bless him indeed...
00:37:40.79\00:37:45.46
and so that is
what God did for him
00:37:45.49\00:37:48.70
and extended his territory
and we pray the same prayer
00:37:48.73\00:37:52.43
and God has
sent us to the world.
00:37:52.47\00:37:54.24
Amen... so tell
me a little bit about
00:37:54.27\00:37:56.71
what's happening in Vietnam.
00:37:56.77\00:37:58.21
Oh, this is very
exciting, we trained some people
00:37:58.24\00:38:02.71
in Singapore to do WIN! Wellness
Homes of Hope and Health
00:38:02.74\00:38:07.58
a few years ago and now,
these people have translated
00:38:07.62\00:38:11.02
all of our materials
into the Vietnamese language
00:38:11.05\00:38:14.36
and it's so exciting to hear
that they are in small groups
00:38:14.39\00:38:20.03
in Vietnam and Hanoi
and are using our materials
00:38:20.06\00:38:24.23
and the lady who spoke to us
about the translation, she said,
00:38:24.27\00:38:28.70
"Your material is
all over Vietnam,"
00:38:28.74\00:38:31.37
I said, "All over?"
00:38:31.41\00:38:32.84
she said, "All over
Vietnam and it's above ground"
00:38:32.87\00:38:37.08
and that's "Wow!"
00:38:37.11\00:38:38.45
Amen, it's really
exciting, they were telling me
00:38:38.48\00:38:41.28
that these are
small group materials
00:38:41.32\00:38:43.08
that have been put in
00:38:43.12\00:38:45.85
to public evangelism context
and so they're using them
00:38:45.89\00:38:48.72
and getting baptisms
through those materials.
00:38:48.76\00:38:50.93
Amen, so tell me about another
project you guys are working on
00:38:50.96\00:38:54.66
in the Muslim
territories of the world.
00:38:54.70\00:38:58.03
The Muslims of the world
are a great privilege to reach
00:38:58.07\00:39:04.64
and the work isn't easy is it?
00:39:04.67\00:39:07.31
And we will not
mention specific countries
00:39:07.34\00:39:12.41
because of
political sensitivities
00:39:12.45\00:39:14.92
and religious sensitivities,
00:39:14.95\00:39:16.89
but one pastor... last year...
he reported 5,000 baptisms
00:39:16.92\00:39:25.99
and over... about half of these
00:39:26.06\00:39:29.83
he attributed to the
WIN! Wellness Program,
00:39:29.86\00:39:32.60
among these
specifically, he stated that
00:39:32.63\00:39:37.07
20 Muslims were
baptized and, you know,
00:39:37.11\00:39:41.51
we just have to praise God
because... well the Bible says,
00:39:41.54\00:39:45.95
"He who believes on
the Lord Jesus Christ,
00:39:45.98\00:39:48.52
he shall be saved,"
and many of these people
00:39:48.55\00:39:51.05
are believing and
God is reaching them.
00:39:51.09\00:39:55.09
In another country,
the work is going also
00:39:55.12\00:39:58.73
among these people and
the lady who reported to us
00:39:58.76\00:40:02.93
just told us how these
people are interested in health,
00:40:02.96\00:40:06.57
they say it agrees with their
philosophy and religion of life
00:40:06.60\00:40:10.97
and they're just happy
to see this work going on.
00:40:11.04\00:40:15.21
I'd just like to
ask... add that...
00:40:15.24\00:40:18.21
they have a special
program for the Muslims,
00:40:18.25\00:40:22.68
they feed them breakfast,
they do exercise with them,
00:40:22.72\00:40:25.49
they do "Love in action" things,
00:40:25.52\00:40:27.16
they meet their
physical needs, health needs,
00:40:27.19\00:40:29.26
and as a result,
there are these Muslims
00:40:29.29\00:40:32.69
who feel their love...
00:40:32.73\00:40:34.30
love in action is a very
important part of ministering
00:40:34.33\00:40:37.80
to our Muslim friends.
00:40:37.83\00:40:39.17
Amen, you know it's
really a burden of mine
00:40:39.20\00:40:41.90
to see us working in
those kinds of fields
00:40:41.94\00:40:44.77
I was reading recently
a Spirit of Prophecy quote
00:40:44.81\00:40:47.61
where it was saying,
"How can we be satisfied
00:40:47.64\00:40:50.05
and to have known these
truths for all our lives
00:40:50.11\00:40:52.48
and not shared in
places that have never heard"
00:40:52.51\00:40:54.88
and it's really exciting to see
00:40:54.92\00:40:56.25
you using your
ministry to do exactly that,
00:40:56.28\00:40:58.49
tell me one more exciting thing
that happened very recently
00:40:58.52\00:41:01.96
in your ministry just
before the GC Session.
00:41:01.99\00:41:05.69
Well, we have started
small groups in our own home
00:41:05.73\00:41:10.57
and if
00:41:10.60\00:41:12.53
small groups are good for
the world then it will be good
00:41:12.57\00:41:14.54
to do it in your own
home, don't you think so?
00:41:14.57\00:41:16.30
And we knocked on
doors down the street
00:41:16.34\00:41:19.57
and up to four
non-Adventists were attending,
00:41:19.61\00:41:22.48
one of them... his
name was John Nit...
00:41:22.51\00:41:25.65
and John Nit...
he... first of all he said,
00:41:25.68\00:41:28.78
"Well, this is interesting,
00:41:28.82\00:41:30.15
and I'm just going to
take little mini-steps... "
00:41:30.19\00:41:32.39
he was a little bit afraid
of the truths of the Bible,
00:41:32.42\00:41:35.79
I'll just take mini-steps and...
but then... first of all...
00:41:35.82\00:41:39.89
he said, "I give up my beer... "
00:41:39.93\00:41:42.10
then he took another mini-step,
"I give up my pork... "
00:41:42.16\00:41:45.30
and what was
the next one Millie?
00:41:45.33\00:41:47.04
Well, the next
one was he gave up...
00:41:47.07\00:41:50.21
being mean to his
wife and children.
00:41:50.24\00:41:52.84
Amen...
00:41:52.87\00:41:54.31
And so, God was
good and on December 20,
00:41:54.34\00:41:58.68
it was my joy to see
that you baptized him
00:41:58.71\00:42:02.98
in the waters of baptism,
00:42:03.02\00:42:04.49
a man with a new
life in Jesus Christ,
00:42:04.55\00:42:07.16
now there's
another one in our group,
00:42:07.22\00:42:09.16
which... he's
coming right along...
00:42:09.22\00:42:11.13
he wants to be
baptized next month,
00:42:11.19\00:42:13.09
I tell you... it works.
00:42:13.13\00:42:14.70
Amen... so we have just
a little bit of time left,
00:42:14.73\00:42:17.50
tell me about what
you're holding in your hand.
00:42:17.53\00:42:20.24
This is the
book, "JESUS WHO IS HE?
00:42:20.27\00:42:26.61
the most important book
Millie and I have ever written,
00:42:26.64\00:42:30.48
the story of Jesus,
00:42:30.55\00:42:33.52
here are 20
episodes in the life of Jesus
00:42:33.58\00:42:37.02
and if it never
helps anybody else,
00:42:37.09\00:42:41.49
it has transformed our lives
00:42:41.52\00:42:43.73
and we'd just like to
show you some of the pictures
00:42:43.76\00:42:48.73
can you get that?
00:42:48.76\00:42:54.14
You've seen Nathan Greene's
"Second Coming of Christ"
00:42:54.17\00:42:58.87
every chapter except one is
illustrated by Nathan Greene
00:42:58.91\00:43:03.55
and so we thank God
that we can exalt Jesus,
00:43:03.61\00:43:08.48
we'll do well to spend a
thoughtful hour every day
00:43:08.52\00:43:11.52
in contemplation
of the life of Christ
00:43:11.55\00:43:13.69
and that's what we
want our ministry to be,
00:43:13.72\00:43:16.83
that's what we want
you to do in your ministry.
00:43:16.89\00:43:19.93
I just must add...
when we were in India
00:43:19.96\00:43:22.96
we were working with some Hindus
00:43:23.00\00:43:26.27
and we didn't know
that they were Hindus,
00:43:26.30\00:43:27.74
after the meetings were over,
00:43:27.77\00:43:30.14
a Hindu came up
to someone and said,
00:43:30.17\00:43:33.34
I would like that
lady to pray for me
00:43:33.38\00:43:36.44
so I go to the man and
discover that he was a Hindu
00:43:36.51\00:43:40.52
and I said, "What would you like
for me to pray about for you?"
00:43:40.55\00:43:44.39
And what did he say, John?
00:43:44.42\00:43:45.82
He said just two
words... "More Jesus... "
00:43:45.85\00:43:50.23
Wow! it's from a Hindu's
lips... and we praise God
00:43:50.26\00:43:56.50
that we can
present "More Jesus... "
00:43:56.53\00:43:58.83
now, you can
visit us in our Booth
00:43:58.87\00:44:01.10
number 427... and that
we've got lots of more stories
00:44:01.14\00:44:05.21
and we'll be
happy to share with you
00:44:05.27\00:44:07.41
and we'd like you
to see our Jesus book
00:44:07.44\00:44:09.41
Reaching Out at a very
little cost to be a "share book"
00:44:09.44\00:44:15.02
among those who don't
know your loving Savior.
00:44:15.05\00:44:17.99
Thank you John and
Millie for this great report,
00:44:18.02\00:44:20.89
you know they do all
this from their home,
00:44:20.92\00:44:22.69
many of you may be wondering
how you can get involved
00:44:22.72\00:44:25.39
to do something
for the Lord Jesus,
00:44:25.43\00:44:27.03
start in your home and
you can get going right away.
00:44:27.06\00:44:29.46
Thank you so much.
Both: Our pleasure.
00:44:29.50\00:44:31.63
Isn't that great?
00:44:31.67\00:44:33.74
Next stop... we are
going to be visiting
00:44:33.77\00:44:36.37
with Julia O'Carey
and Kaila, her daughter,
00:44:36.40\00:44:38.94
who are from Michigan and are
working with ASAP Ministries.
00:44:38.97\00:44:43.91
Julia, tell me a little
bit about what ASAP stands for.
00:44:43.95\00:44:48.72
Well, ASAP used to stand for
00:44:48.75\00:44:51.62
Adventist
Southeast Asia Projects
00:44:51.65\00:44:54.62
but God has
expanded our territory
00:44:54.66\00:44:57.56
to other close countries
outside of Southeast Asia
00:44:57.63\00:45:00.50
and so now it's
00:45:00.53\00:45:01.86
"Advocates for Southeast
Asians and the Persecuted"
00:45:01.90\00:45:05.80
and our main focus is
on training and empowering
00:45:05.83\00:45:09.77
over 400 national missionaries
00:45:09.80\00:45:12.37
to be Disciple
Makers in their countries
00:45:12.41\00:45:16.14
and so, it's really exciting
what the Lord is doing there.
00:45:16.18\00:45:19.71
Amen, now Kaila,
00:45:19.75\00:45:21.08
tell me a little bit
about what you got to do
00:45:21.12\00:45:23.85
recently with
ASAP on a Mission Trip.
00:45:23.89\00:45:26.12
Well...
00:45:26.15\00:45:30.63
What impressed you most?
00:45:30.66\00:45:34.10
Well, I really was impressed
of how religious the people are
00:45:34.13\00:45:38.40
over there, they
wake at 4:30 a. m.
00:45:38.43\00:45:42.44
they were lining the streets
ready to give their offerings
00:45:42.47\00:45:46.31
to the Buddhist monks
and I thought how big impact
00:45:46.34\00:45:51.01
they would be if they were
serving in the Adventist Church.
00:45:51.05\00:45:54.58
Yeah, how many of us are
lining up to give our offerings?
00:45:54.62\00:45:58.12
May something change.
00:45:58.15\00:45:59.72
You know, this area
that we went to in Laos,
00:45:59.75\00:46:03.12
Satan really has
a stronghold there.
00:46:03.16\00:46:06.13
They're very Buddhist, and
even tourists would come in
00:46:06.16\00:46:09.20
and just go to
worship Buddha there
00:46:09.23\00:46:14.04
and it was strange... I grew up
in Asia and I go yearly for ASAP
00:46:14.07\00:46:21.04
but this night...
the night we went to this
00:46:21.08\00:46:23.38
one town in Laos, a
strange sensation came over,
00:46:23.41\00:46:27.65
I felt like my
chest... I couldn't breathe
00:46:27.68\00:46:30.59
and my body was
shaking and I was like,
00:46:30.62\00:46:33.46
"What happened, did I
get food poisoned or... "
00:46:33.49\00:46:35.92
you know, it really scared me
00:46:35.96\00:46:37.79
and so I just prayed
and I claimed Scripture
00:46:37.83\00:46:41.00
and I confessed any
known and unknown sin,
00:46:41.03\00:46:43.33
I didn't want any
stronghold in my life
00:46:43.37\00:46:45.47
and I said, "Lord,
what is going on here?"
00:46:45.50\00:46:47.30
And this happened for
hours and then I opened the Word
00:46:47.34\00:46:51.24
and I came to this
story of a demon and I said,
00:46:51.27\00:46:54.68
"Oh, I know what...
we're on Satan's territory
00:46:54.71\00:46:57.95
and we're wrestling
against not flesh and blood
00:46:57.98\00:47:01.75
but against... yeah...
the powers of darkness"
00:47:01.78\00:47:05.55
and so I woke my
husband up and I said,
00:47:05.59\00:47:08.72
"AJ, we need to really pray...
00:47:08.76\00:47:10.63
God has something
for us to do here...
00:47:10.66\00:47:12.66
tomorrow morning...
and we need God's power"
00:47:12.69\00:47:16.46
so I prayed...
and he prayed for me
00:47:16.50\00:47:19.37
and then I said, "Lord,
I sense your presence...
00:47:19.43\00:47:21.80
but I know your Word says,
00:47:21.84\00:47:24.41
'He who is in me is greater
than he who is in the world'
00:47:24.47\00:47:26.94
and I'm going to
go to sleep in faith"
00:47:26.98\00:47:29.81
and praise God, I
was finally able to sleep
00:47:29.84\00:47:33.05
and we woke up in the morning
00:47:33.08\00:47:34.42
and we were able to
accomplish the mission
00:47:34.45\00:47:36.25
He sent us there for...
00:47:36.28\00:47:37.95
and this helped me realize
that ASAP National Missionaries
00:47:38.02\00:47:42.29
go through this every
day, they are battling
00:47:42.32\00:47:45.26
and they are winning
thousands of souls for God
00:47:45.29\00:47:47.93
and we need many, many
more of these laborers,
00:47:47.96\00:47:50.57
and it's not
easy out there at all.
00:47:50.60\00:47:53.34
Amen... so Kaila,
tell me a little bit about
00:47:53.37\00:47:56.57
what was one of your experiences
while you were there.
00:47:56.60\00:47:59.47
Well, when we
went to the villages,
00:47:59.51\00:48:02.21
I would smile
at kids and I would
00:48:02.24\00:48:04.88
jump right in with
them and play their games
00:48:04.91\00:48:08.62
and I learned that
you don't need a language
00:48:08.65\00:48:11.29
in order to make
friends for life.
00:48:11.32\00:48:13.96
Also, in one little
village, I met this little boy
00:48:13.99\00:48:18.63
and he has Ptosis...
which is an eye disease
00:48:18.66\00:48:25.07
that makes your eyelid droopy
00:48:25.10\00:48:27.70
and my heart went out to
him because when I was his age,
00:48:27.74\00:48:31.47
I had the same disease,
00:48:31.51\00:48:33.31
so I told the parents
that when he was old enough
00:48:33.34\00:48:37.25
I would get enough funds so
that he would be able to have
00:48:37.28\00:48:42.55
the same surgery...
and they were so happy
00:48:42.58\00:48:51.99
that it made me
want to jump for joy.
00:48:52.03\00:48:54.23
You know, you
have the opportunity
00:48:54.26\00:48:56.40
to help with that project,
00:48:56.43\00:48:57.77
they have a new ASAP Project
called "Operation New Vision"
00:48:57.80\00:49:02.54
so if you want to
help her with that goal
00:49:02.57\00:49:04.44
to help that young boy
you can certainly do that.
00:49:04.47\00:49:07.41
Julia, tell me one more story
00:49:07.48\00:49:09.48
from your experience
there this last trip.
00:49:09.51\00:49:12.85
I was so glad that I
was able to go and worship
00:49:12.88\00:49:16.02
with the believers in
this new little church
00:49:16.05\00:49:18.85
it's actually... they
are worshipping in a house
00:49:18.89\00:49:21.86
and the next morning
after that strange incident,
00:49:21.89\00:49:24.86
we went and they showed us land
00:49:24.89\00:49:27.13
and this house
that they wanted to buy
00:49:27.16\00:49:31.23
and praise God...
He worked a miracle
00:49:31.30\00:49:34.70
that was able to
be purchased for them
00:49:34.74\00:49:37.81
and then... that same day
00:49:37.84\00:49:39.71
five Hmong men came from this
village way up in the mountains
00:49:39.74\00:49:43.95
just to see us to thank
us for how we were going to
00:49:43.98\00:49:47.88
help them with the water system
00:49:47.92\00:49:49.85
and toilets for their
village, they had nothing
00:49:49.88\00:49:53.19
and also, a Church Planter
00:49:53.22\00:49:55.89
and I was able to
share a testimony with them
00:49:55.92\00:49:58.73
and I said,
"Listen, God knew your need
00:49:58.76\00:50:01.46
even before you asked ASAP"
00:50:01.50\00:50:03.40
and I hadn't even
shared any communication
00:50:03.47\00:50:08.80
but an ASI member
sent a 10,000 dollar check
00:50:08.84\00:50:14.14
for water systems in Laos
00:50:14.18\00:50:16.71
and it was the Holy Spirit
that had impressed this person
00:50:16.75\00:50:20.48
and so we had that
funding to do this,
00:50:20.52\00:50:23.15
now they have five
wells in this village
00:50:23.18\00:50:25.72
and storage tank for the water,
50 toilets and a Church Planter
00:50:25.75\00:50:30.73
that's spreading
the gospel there,
00:50:30.76\00:50:32.66
it's just such a blessing to
see the way that the Lord works.
00:50:32.69\00:50:35.53
Amen, thank you
so much for sharing
00:50:35.56\00:50:38.63
about what's going on
there in your trips there
00:50:38.67\00:50:41.07
and thank you
for doing the project
00:50:41.10\00:50:43.17
for the boy and his eyes.
00:50:43.20\00:50:44.91
We just want to invite
you to come by the ASAP Booth
00:50:44.94\00:50:48.94
it's number... 604...
00:50:49.01\00:50:51.91
and we have a little
mission project for your kids
00:50:51.95\00:50:55.85
and come by the Booth
and we'll explain it to you,
00:50:55.88\00:50:59.75
I don't think we
have too much time now
00:50:59.79\00:51:01.79
but a couple of other things
I want to invite you to do,
00:51:01.82\00:51:05.76
ASAP Ministries now has a
weekly mission video podcast,
00:51:05.79\00:51:09.66
it's only about 7 to 10 minutes
and so if you subscribe to that,
00:51:09.70\00:51:14.57
you can share it
with your churches
00:51:14.60\00:51:16.20
and get exciting
stories of what God's doing
00:51:16.24\00:51:18.61
in other parts of the world
00:51:18.64\00:51:19.97
and God provided for
us to have a new website
00:51:20.01\00:51:24.65
that was just launched today
00:51:24.68\00:51:26.01
so if you go to
ASAPministries. org
00:51:26.05\00:51:29.22
you can check that out
00:51:29.28\00:51:30.62
and we're just so
grateful to the Lord
00:51:30.65\00:51:33.05
in what He's doing in
that part of the world
00:51:33.09\00:51:35.32
we'd love for you to
be a part of that as well.
00:51:35.36\00:51:37.56
Amen, thank you so much,
00:51:37.59\00:51:39.13
you know, it's
really exciting to see
00:51:39.16\00:51:41.23
how... when God impresses
you to give to a project...
00:51:41.26\00:51:45.20
that you don't even really
know about... God can use that
00:51:45.23\00:51:49.10
to answer people's
prayers before they even happen,
00:51:49.14\00:51:51.77
thank you so much.
00:51:51.81\00:51:53.14
Next we're going to be visiting
with a couple from New York,
00:51:53.17\00:51:58.01
Ivan and Heidi are
going to be sharing with us
00:51:58.05\00:52:02.52
about their project in New York,
00:52:02.55\00:52:05.62
tell us what's the
name of your project
00:52:05.65\00:52:07.46
and what do you do.
00:52:07.49\00:52:08.82
Sure, it's called
Heidi's Health Kitchen
00:52:08.86\00:52:10.73
and God created
Heidi's Health Kitchen
00:52:10.76\00:52:12.66
as a means to reach
the people of New York City
00:52:12.69\00:52:15.76
through the health
message, Medical Ministry work
00:52:15.80\00:52:18.60
and... which we all know
is the right arm of the gospel
00:52:18.63\00:52:21.44
and so we offer
free cooking classes,
00:52:21.47\00:52:24.31
health lectures
and Bible Studies.
00:52:24.34\00:52:27.08
Amen, so it's a
self-sustaining mission model
00:52:27.11\00:52:31.25
for both of you
as Bible Workers.
00:52:31.28\00:52:32.78
Yes.
00:52:32.81\00:52:34.15
Excellent, now tell
me a little bit about
00:52:34.18\00:52:36.58
an experience that
you had in that program
00:52:36.65\00:52:39.15
that you're running recently.
00:52:39.22\00:52:40.56
Sure, well we've
had several experiences,
00:52:40.59\00:52:42.56
we have some
pictures to show as well
00:52:42.59\00:52:44.53
just of some of our
cooking class attendees
00:52:44.56\00:52:48.16
we typically have between
35 and 70 people at a class
00:52:48.20\00:52:53.07
and... so this
is just one picture
00:52:53.10\00:52:56.91
but the next
picture actually shows...
00:52:56.94\00:52:58.27
demonstrating a natural
remedy so we include all of that
00:52:58.31\00:53:03.28
within the cooking
and the food demonstration
00:53:03.31\00:53:06.78
and this was a young girl who
was experiencing some knee pain
00:53:06.82\00:53:10.19
and so I applied a
poultice of turmeric and ginger
00:53:10.22\00:53:14.02
to relieve her knee
pain. Interviewer: Excellent...
00:53:14.06\00:53:16.22
And so the next picture,
00:53:16.26\00:53:18.33
just shows a
little bit of our team,
00:53:18.36\00:53:20.23
we are currently working
with the Crossroads Church
00:53:20.26\00:53:23.33
in Times Square, New York City
00:53:23.37\00:53:25.60
and we're
directly working with the
00:53:25.63\00:53:28.77
Personal Ministries Department
00:53:28.80\00:53:30.17
and it's been a real blessing
to be working with the church,
00:53:30.21\00:53:33.78
Heidi's Health
Kitchen is actually a part
00:53:33.81\00:53:36.68
of the long-term
evangelistic plans
00:53:36.75\00:53:39.35
of the Crossroads
Seventh-day Adventist Church
00:53:39.38\00:53:41.88
so these events are kind
of like the bridge events
00:53:41.92\00:53:44.35
to prepare people and to
build contacts and relationships
00:53:44.39\00:53:48.69
for our next
Evangelistic Series.
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So you're using your business
with the exclusive purpose
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of bringing souls to Jesus.
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Heidi: Yes...
Interviewer: So that's great.
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And we do get
Bible Study contacts
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almost every cooking
class which is a real blessing.
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Amen.
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And... and also, if we
bring back the last picture
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we can see that
there's an Asian lady
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standing at our Booth,
this was at a Vegan Food event
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and as we sell our products,
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we also offer free
Medical Missionary activities
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like Blood Pressure
screening, chair massage
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and also some of the
natural remedies as well,
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and this was at Union Square,
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we were invited by a National
Animal Rights Day organizer
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who was into New Age but
he said he likes our kind
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he said, "I want to
help Heidi's Health Kitchen
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so come and set
up a Booth or a table
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at Union Square for free"
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and we were able to
hand out health literature
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which was run by Adventists
like "Health and Wellness"
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and "Take Charge of Health"
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and "Amazing Facts Magazine
on Health," so... yeah...
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Amen, so tell me a
little bit more about
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this lady that
was in the picture.
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Sure, so Carol
was introduced to me
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at the end of the
"Revelation of Hope"
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with Mark Finley and Ted Wilson.
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Carol had been reaching out to
the Seventh-day Adventist Church
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trying to find someone to
teach her more about the Bible
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and she had been a
Buddhist for 38 years
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and a chain smoker
for 37 and when I met her
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we met at the Library in Queens
and her English was very limited
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however, we were
able to take out a Bible
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that was parallel
Mandarin and English
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and we studied
the Bible together
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and it was just such a blessing
to see the transformation
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that God makes in a
person who is searching
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and wants God in their life
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and so Carol quit
smoking by God's power
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amen... Interviewer: Amen...
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and her life has been
completely transformed,
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she's on fire for the
Lord, she is a supporter
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and volunteer of
Heidi's Health Kitchen,
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she's on our
Board and it's rewarding
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to see someone
become a disciple.
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Recently before
we went to the GC,
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I had the joy...
God gave me the joy
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of seeing Carol
involved in a Bible Study...
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sharing her testimony
with another Chinese woman
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and it's just so amazing
to be working for the Lord.
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And that's really the
goal of City Missions,
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it's not only to see
people won for Christ,
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but to see the
people you won for Christ
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winning people for
Christ. Heidi: Amen...
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And so that's really exciting,
now, tell me... Ivan...
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a little bit about an
experience you're having
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right now that's
from the City Mission.
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Sure, absolutely, well,
this is a little interesting,
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there was somebody from India
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who wanted to
provide some services
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for Heidi's Health Kitchen
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and we said, "We're
not at that moment yet"
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and... but we told them
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that we are basing
our ministry and business
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from a book written by
a lady named Ellen White
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and he asked about
the name of the book,
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I said, "there's a compilation
called "The Restaurant Work"
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and they're using that as a
textbook for their whole venture
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and then he
started reading that book
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and later on he read some
other book which told him that
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Ellen White was part of
some kind of a secret society
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and things like that
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and then he thought I was
also a part of secret societies
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and he thought I
was Jesuit... he said...
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and then, anyway, so...
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so later on as he
did some more research,
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he found out that Ellen White's
writings were as per the Bible,
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she had never
deviated from the Bible,
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so... and then he said that
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"You know I did the
research and I found out... "
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and then so I took
that as an opportunity
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to pitch for some
Bible Studies so I asked,
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"Would you be interested
to study the Bible with me?"
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and then, since
then we've been studying
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using Mark Finley's Bible...
"Search for Certainty" lessons
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so I study with him
on the phone every week.
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So, did you hear that?
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They're doing Bible Studies from
their City Mission in New York
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and India by the phone.
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Can somebody say,
"Amen. " Audience: Amen.
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That's called global
missions from your home.
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Yeah. It's truly exciting,
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well, thank you so
much for sharing about that,
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the Lord bless
you in your work there
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as you continue to work
for the Lord in New York.
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Thank you... Thank you.
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ASI Spokane, Washington.
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