They came to Jesus
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In Galilee
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Seeking the master
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To learn at his feet
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How kind his teachings
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How gentle his voice
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And in his word
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Every heart may rejoice
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For blessed, he said,
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Are the humble and meek
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All they who
mourn who come unto me
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For they shall
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Find comfort and peace
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I come to him
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Like the multitude
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Fed by his wisdom,
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My spirit renewed
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Trusting his
word, led by his light
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Knowing his law
will lead me to life
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I come as they came
With faith in his name
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I come to him
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They sought the healer
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They brought their lame
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Blind and infirm,
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Their afflicted and maimed
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They cried to Jesus
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In sorrow and loss
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"Thou Son of David,
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Have mercy on us!"
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They reached out to him
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In their suffering and grief
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Trusting his power
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They sought him in faith
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And thus were they healed
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By his grace
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I come to him
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Like the blind and lame
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Seeking his mercy
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To quiet my pain
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For as he blessed
his children of old
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I trust in his
power to succor my soul
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I come as they came
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With faith in his name
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I come to him
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I come to him
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I come as they came
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With faith in his name
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I come to him
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Amen. Amen.
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Good evening.
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Good evening. Happy Sabbath.
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So nice to see you
all of you dressed up.
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The Sabbath has
begin, praise the Lord.
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Do you look
forward to the Sabbath?
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Amen.
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I look forward to the Sabbath
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even though pastors
work harder on Sabbath
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than any other day,
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but it's sacred
work, so it's loveable.
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I invite you to bow your
heads with me as we pray.
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Father in heaven,
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more than ever we
need your help tonight,
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we need the help
of your Holy Spirit
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as we open the
pages of your holy book.
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The message that we're
going to study is Solomon,
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important.
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Now I ask Lord that you
will enlighten our minds,
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that you will open our hearts
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to receive the
message that you have for us.
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We thank you Father
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for the promise of your presence
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and we know that you
have answered this prayer
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because we asked it in
the precious name of Jesus,
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amen.
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Amen.
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Before the
creation of the angels,
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the inhabitants
of the other worlds
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and human beings on this earth.
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The Father and the Son
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had a very unique relationship.
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I would like as we
begin our study this evening
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to go over nine characteristics
of the relationship
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between the Father and the Son,
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before anything was
created in the universe.
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The first point that
I want to underline is
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that the Father and the Son
are two distinct individuals.
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Two separate persons,
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I would like to
give biblical basis
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as well as Spirit of
Prophecy confirmation.
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In John 17:5,
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"Jesus prayed,
"And now O Father,
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glorify me
together with yourself
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with the glory
which I had with you
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before the world was."
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So the Son was with the Father,
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if He was with the Father,
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He was not the Father.
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In John 17:22
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Jesus continues His prayer,
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"And the glory which you gave me
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I have given them
that is the disciples
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that they may be
one just as we are one."
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The Father and the Son
are two distinct individuals.
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In Ministry of Healing, page 422
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Ellen White makes
this profound statement,
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"The unity that exists
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between Christ and His disciples
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does not destroy the
personality of either.
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They are one in purpose,
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in mind, in character,
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but not in person,
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it is thus that God
and Christ are one."
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So the Father and the
Son are two distinct persons
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and yet,
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because they are intimately
related one to the other,
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the Bible describes them as one.
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Jesus said in John 10:30,
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"I and the Father are One."
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So you have two distinct persons
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but they are one in
the sense of character,
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in the sense of unity.
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In the Youth's Instructor
for December 16, 1897,
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Ellen White makes
this remarkable statement.
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This is how it reads,
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"From eternity
there was a complete unity
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between the Father and the Son.
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They were two yet little
short of being identical."
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Did you hear that?
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"They were two but what,
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little short of being
identical to in individuality.
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Yet one in spirit,
heart and character."
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Two but in perfect unity.
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The third characteristic
of the relationship
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between the Father and the Son
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that I would like to share is
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that both the Father
and the Son are equally God.
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They are both
100 percent divine.
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Jesus is not a lesser God.
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Jesus is equal to the Father.
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John 1:1, 2
makes that very clear,
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"In the beginning was the Word
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and the Word was with God
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and the Word was God,"
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not a God but God.
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Ellen White, always in harmony
with scripture states as much.
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In Counsels to
the Church page 76,
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she says "God is
the Father of Christ,
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Christ is the Son of God.
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To Christ has been
given an exalted position.
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He has been made
equal with the father.
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All the counsels of
God are opened to His Son."
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In the book God's
Amazing Grace, page 160,
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she once again emphasizes
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that the Father
and the Son are equal.
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They are both God.
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This is how it reads,
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"This Savior was the
brightness of His Father's glory
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and the express
image of His person.
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He possessed divine majesty,
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perfection, and excellence.
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He was equal with God."
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And one more statement
in Patriarchs and Prophets,
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pages 38 and 39,
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"Christ was the Son of God.
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He had been One with him
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before the angels
were called into existence.
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He had ever stood
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at the right
hand of the Father."
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So Jesus Christ
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is a distinct
personality from the Father,
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He is one with the Father,
He is equal with the Father,
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fully and completely
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God in every sense of the word.
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The fourth
characteristic is that
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there is a special intimacy
between the Father and the Son.
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And this intimacy is expressed
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by stating that the Son is
in the bosom of the Father.
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That indicates
closeness and intimacy
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like when we hug a
little baby close to our bosom.
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In John 1:18,
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we find that description
in scripture that says,
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"No one has
seen God at any time,
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the only begotten son
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who is in the
bosom of the Father,
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He has declared him."
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Ellen White States as much,
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in the Review and Herald,
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for February 28, 1888.
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When Ellen White discusses
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Jesus coming to this earth
sent by His Father, she states.
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"The father permitted him
to leave the bosom of His love,
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the adoration of the
angels, to suffer shame, insult,
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humiliation, hatred, and death."
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So this intimacy is
expressed as the Son being
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in the bosom of the Father.
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The fifth characteristic
that I would like to share
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concerning the relationship
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between the Father and the Son
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in eternity past is that
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Jesus is the
express image of His Father.
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Ellen White in
the devotional book,
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Lift Him Up, page
24, had this to say.
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"The Son of God
was next in authority
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to the Great Law Giver."
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Remember that, the Son of God
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was next in authority
to the Great Law Giver.
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"He was in the
express image of his father
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not in features alone,
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but in perfection of character."
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So very clearly,
Ellen White says,
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that He was the
express image of His Father.
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Incidentally, the
normal word for image
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when it refers to
us in the New Testament
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that we are made in the
image of God is the word acon
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where we get the word icon from,
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but this word is not that word
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when it refers to Christ
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being the image of the Father,
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the word is a different word.
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It's the Greek word charakter
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that we get our
word character from.
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It's used only of Christ
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in this one verse in scripture,
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so Jesus is the
express image of the Father.
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The six characteristics
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that I would like to
share with you is that
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Jesus is the
Father's second self.
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You know very well in John 14:9,
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"Jesus said to Philip,
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"Have I been with you so long
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and yet you have
not known me Philip.
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He who has seen Me
has seen the Father."
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So how can you say
show us the Father,
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the Son is the
second self of the Father
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where the son is, is
the character of the Father.
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In a statement
that I read once before
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in Youth
Instructor December 16, 1897,
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I read that statement again,
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"From eternity
there was a complete unity
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between the Father and the Son.
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They were two yet little
short of being identical,
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two in
individuality yet one in spirit,
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heart and character."
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So Jesus is the Father's
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and was the Father's
in eternity second self.
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The seventh characteristic
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that I would
like to share with you
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concerning the relationship
between the Father and the Son
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is that the Father and the Son
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are composed of
the same substance
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because Jesus is
the Son of the Father.
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They're
co-substantial in other words.
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In Philippians
2:6, it says that,
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"Jesus was in the form of God."
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That word form in Greek
means the substance of God.
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The very stuff
that God is made of,
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Jesus is composed of that.
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Ellen White confirms this point.
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In Signs of the
Times, November 27, 1893,
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she is commenting on the verse,
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I, and my Father are one.
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She says, "The words of
Christ were full of deep meaning
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as He put forth the claim
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that He and the
Father were of one substance
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possessing the same attributes."
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Father and Son were
of the same substance,
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co-substantial in other words.
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In the Review and
Herald, April 5, 1906,
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Ellen White also states,
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"Christ was God essentially
and in the highest sense."
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Now when she
says, "Essentially,"
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it's not like I say,
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"Well, He's
essentially like me."
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No, the word essentially means
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in His essence,
in His substance,
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Jesus is one with the Father
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He's
co-substantial with the Father.
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Would it be too much to say
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that the Son has
the Father's DNA.
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The eighth characteristic
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that I would like
to share with you,
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is that the glory of
Jesus is the glory of his Father
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shining in him.
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In Hebrews 1:3,
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"Jesus is referred
to as the brightness
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of the Father's glory."
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In John 1:14,
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"We are told and
the Word became flesh
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and dwelt among us,
and we beheld his glory.
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Now notice, "We
beheld his glory the glory
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as of the only
begotten of the Father
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full of grace and truth."
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The glory of Jesus is
the glory of his Father.
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In 2 Corinthians
4:6, we're told this,
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" For it is the God
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who commanded light
to shine out of darkness,
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who has shone in our hearts
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to give the
light of the knowledge
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of the glory of God in
the face of Jesus Christ."
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The glory of God in
the face of Jesus Christ.
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Jesus is the
glory of the Father.
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Ellen White
confirms this point as well.
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In the book
Medical Ministry, page 19,
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Ellen White explains,
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in the condition of
Jesus before his incarnation.
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"He was the
brightness of the Father's glory
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the express
image of His person."
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In Christ Object
Lessons, page 115,
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she repeats the same
thought when she states,
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"In him that is
in Jesus is gathered
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all the glory of the Father,
the fullness of the Godhead,
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He is the brightness
of the Father's glory
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and the express
image of His person."
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One more
statement on this point,
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Testimonies for
the Church, Volume 2,
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page 200, she states,
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"The Savior was the
brightness of His Father's glory
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and the express
image of His person.
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He possessed divine majesty,
perfection and excellence.
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He was equal with God."
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The ninth characteristic that
I would like to share with you
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is that even though
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the Father and the Son
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are on a level of
equality as persons.
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The Son from
eternity past has been subject
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to his father's
authority as his head."
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That is clearly
stated in 1 Corinthians 11:3
00:19:25.39\00:19:29.36
where it says clearly
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"That the father
is the head of Christ"
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God is the head of Christ.
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And so Christ in eternity past
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even before the creation
of the angels was subject
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to his father's authority
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even though He was
equal to His Father.
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"In eternity past,
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in the present
and in eternity future
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both the Father and the Son
have authority and dominion,
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but the Father
has absolute authority
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and the Son has
delegated authority,
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even though they are equal."
00:20:05.27\00:20:08.37
Never has Jesus ever acted
independently of his Father.
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He has ever been subject
to His Father's authority
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and his Father's will."
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You might be
thinking, well, that happened
00:20:20.25\00:20:22.52
since the
incarnation that He was subject
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to His Father's will,
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even though He's
equal to His Father, not so.
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Let me read you a
couple of statements
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from the Spirit of Prophecy.
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The first one is found in
story of Redemption page 13,
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you know Lucifer in heaven said,
00:20:36.16\00:20:37.70
"Hey, Jesus and me are
equal, we were the same,
00:20:37.73\00:20:40.57
and yet Jesus is
favored and I'm not favored.
00:20:40.60\00:20:43.04
So the Father had to
call a meeting in heaven
00:20:43.07\00:20:46.04
of all of the heavenly council
00:20:46.07\00:20:47.51
to explain the
position of his Son."
00:20:47.54\00:20:49.94
This is before the
creation of the world.
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Notice this statement,
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"The great creator
referring to the Father,
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assembled the heavenly host
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that He might, that
is that the Father might
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in the presence
of all of the angels
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confer special
honor upon His Son."
00:21:05.79\00:21:09.96
The Son was seated...
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Was Jesus the Son already?
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Yes. Yes.
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The Son was seated on
the throne with the Father.
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And the heavenly
throng of holy angels
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was gathered around them.
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The Father then made known,
notice who is making known.
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The Father then made known
00:21:27.18\00:21:29.78
that it was ordained by himself.
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That is by the
Father that Christ his Son
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should be equal with himself.
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So that wherever was
the presence of his Son,
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it was as his own presence.
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The word of a Son was
to be obeyed as readily
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as the word of the Father.
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His Son, He had
invested with authority
00:21:47.17\00:21:51.11
to command the heavenly host."
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What had the Father done?
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"He had, He is the one
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that had invested
the Son with authority
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to command the heavenly host."
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And then, she continued saying,
00:22:02.05\00:22:03.39
"Especially was His Son
to work in union with himself
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in the anticipated
creation of the earth
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and every living thing that
should exist upon the earth.
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His Son, listen carefully,
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His Son would carry out His will
00:22:17.10\00:22:21.70
and His purposes
that is the Father's,
00:22:21.74\00:22:25.84
but would do
nothing of Himself alone.
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The will, the Father's
will would be fulfilled in Him."
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Clear.
00:22:34.88\00:22:36.99
Another statement that we
find in Patriarchs and Prophets,
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page 26, add some
details, we're told there.
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The King of the universe,
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notice this is a
reference to God the Father.
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"The King of the universe
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summoned the
heavenly host before him
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that in their presence
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He might set forth the
true position of his Son.
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And show the
relation he sustained
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to all the created beings."
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The Son of God
shared the Father's throne
00:23:01.58\00:23:05.15
and the glory of the
eternal self existent one
00:23:05.18\00:23:08.15
encircled both.
00:23:08.18\00:23:09.95
Before the assembled
inhabitants of heaven,
00:23:09.98\00:23:12.89
the King, that's the Father,
00:23:12.92\00:23:16.32
the King declared
that none but Christ,
00:23:16.36\00:23:19.83
the only begotten of God
00:23:19.86\00:23:22.20
could fully
enter into his purposes
00:23:22.23\00:23:24.73
and to him it was
committed to execute
00:23:24.77\00:23:28.24
the mighty counsels of his will,
00:23:28.27\00:23:31.14
that is of the Father's Will.
00:23:31.17\00:23:33.01
The Son of God had
wrought the Father's will,
00:23:33.04\00:23:36.11
listen carefully,
00:23:36.14\00:23:37.48
the Son of God had
wrought the Father's will
00:23:37.51\00:23:39.65
in the creation of
all the hosts of heaven."
00:23:39.68\00:23:44.19
Who created the angels?
00:23:44.22\00:23:46.99
Jesus.
00:23:47.02\00:23:48.69
Whose will was He performing?
00:23:48.72\00:23:51.23
The will of His Father.
00:23:51.26\00:23:53.09
So once again, the Son of God
00:23:53.13\00:23:55.00
had wrought the Father's will
00:23:55.03\00:23:56.36
in the creation of
all the host of heaven.
00:23:56.40\00:23:58.43
And to him as well as to God,
00:23:58.47\00:24:01.10
their homage and
allegiance were due.
00:24:01.14\00:24:03.87
Christ was still to
exercise divine power
00:24:03.91\00:24:06.88
in the creation of the
earth and its inhabitants.
00:24:06.91\00:24:09.91
But in all this He
would not seek power
00:24:09.94\00:24:12.91
or exaltation for
Himself contrary to God's plan,
00:24:12.95\00:24:17.45
but would exalt
the Father's glory
00:24:17.49\00:24:20.29
and execute His purposes
of beneficence and love."
00:24:20.32\00:24:26.46
Is that clear?
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Crystal, if you
read it with an open mind
00:24:29.43\00:24:33.80
and an open heart.
00:24:33.84\00:24:37.11
You know, even after
Jesus became incarnate,
00:24:37.14\00:24:39.21
He was still subject
to the Father's will.
00:24:39.24\00:24:42.78
In Matthew 28:18,
00:24:42.81\00:24:45.61
right before the
Great Commission.
00:24:45.65\00:24:47.82
It says, "And Jesus
came and spoke to them saying
00:24:47.85\00:24:49.92
all authority
has been given to me
00:24:49.95\00:24:52.92
in heaven and earth."
00:24:52.95\00:24:54.29
Who is the only one that
00:24:54.32\00:24:55.66
could have given
Him the authority?
00:24:55.69\00:24:57.03
His father.
00:24:57.06\00:24:58.39
Only His father
00:24:58.43\00:24:59.76
and the Bible teaches
that in eternity future,
00:24:59.79\00:25:01.26
the Son will still be
subject to His Father.
00:25:01.30\00:25:04.53
1 Corinthians 15:28 says,
00:25:04.57\00:25:06.97
"Now when all things
are made subject to Him,
00:25:07.00\00:25:09.60
then the Son Himself
will also be subject to Him
00:25:09.64\00:25:13.74
who put all things under Him,
that God may be all in all."
00:25:13.78\00:25:19.95
I'm not going where
you think I'm going.
00:25:19.98\00:25:24.22
I know many of you are saying,
00:25:24.25\00:25:25.79
"Well, Pastor Bohr's gonna
deal with women's ordination."
00:25:25.82\00:25:32.53
I'm not going there.
00:25:32.56\00:25:33.90
You say, where
are you going then?
00:25:37.03\00:25:38.37
Well, let's try and get there.
00:25:38.40\00:25:39.73
On earth,
00:25:43.20\00:25:45.57
God worked for the
better part of six days
00:25:45.61\00:25:49.38
and made everything
perfect and beautiful.
00:25:49.41\00:25:52.31
Now we're
transitioning to the earth.
00:25:52.35\00:25:55.15
As the crowning act of creation,
00:25:55.18\00:25:58.39
God formed man out of
the dust of the ground
00:25:58.42\00:26:01.92
breathed into his
nostrils the breath of life
00:26:01.96\00:26:04.69
and man came alive.
00:26:04.73\00:26:08.86
Then God told Adam
to name the animals
00:26:08.90\00:26:11.97
and he did so
00:26:12.00\00:26:13.34
but he noticed that each animal
00:26:13.37\00:26:14.74
had its
counterpart except himself,
00:26:14.77\00:26:18.57
we're told in Genesis 2:20,
00:26:18.61\00:26:21.01
but for Adam there
was not found a help
00:26:21.04\00:26:24.48
or comparable to him.
00:26:24.51\00:26:27.58
So God applied to
Adam general anesthesia.
00:26:27.62\00:26:34.02
The Bible calls it a deep sleep.
00:26:34.06\00:26:37.23
And performed the
first surgery of history
00:26:37.26\00:26:40.33
as far as we know
00:26:40.36\00:26:43.37
and the incision left no scar.
00:26:43.40\00:26:46.74
And from the rib
close to Adam's bosom,
00:26:46.77\00:26:50.87
He created the
woman and the Bible says,
00:26:50.91\00:26:55.81
"That God then brought
her to man as his gift."
00:26:55.84\00:26:58.88
Were told in Genesis 2:22,
00:26:58.91\00:27:01.32
"Then the rib which the
Lord God had taken from man,
00:27:01.35\00:27:04.29
He made into a woman, and
He brought her to the man."
00:27:04.32\00:27:09.09
Now Adam kind of
wakes up from his slumber,
00:27:09.12\00:27:12.46
opens his eyes,
00:27:12.49\00:27:15.23
I'm sure he
opened them real wide.
00:27:15.26\00:27:17.90
I'm sure that
his mouth fell open.
00:27:17.93\00:27:19.70
One like me, and
God explained to him
00:27:24.47\00:27:28.61
that Eve had been
created from himself.
00:27:28.64\00:27:33.68
She was co-substantial with him.
00:27:33.72\00:27:36.99
She had been created
from him and for him.
00:27:37.02\00:27:43.93
Now we've all read
that text in Genesis
00:27:43.96\00:27:45.79
where it speaks
about the image of God.
00:27:45.83\00:27:49.10
Genesis 1:26 says, "Then God,"
00:27:49.13\00:27:52.77
Ellen White identifies
this person as the Father.
00:27:52.80\00:27:55.80
"Then God said,"
00:27:55.84\00:27:58.31
She says He's speaking
to His Son Jesus Christ,
00:27:58.34\00:28:01.21
"Then God said,
00:28:01.24\00:28:03.41
let us make man,
00:28:03.45\00:28:08.22
how?
00:28:08.25\00:28:11.05
In Our image
00:28:11.09\00:28:12.85
according to Our likeness."
00:28:12.89\00:28:18.76
Now we usually
think of the image of God
00:28:18.79\00:28:20.53
as an individual thing.
00:28:20.56\00:28:22.53
Adam was made
in the image of God
00:28:22.56\00:28:25.63
physically,
mentally and spiritually.
00:28:25.67\00:28:27.97
Eve was made in the image of God
00:28:28.00\00:28:30.34
physically,
mentally and spiritually.
00:28:30.37\00:28:31.97
We think of the image of
God as an individual thing.
00:28:32.01\00:28:34.31
But really what
Genesis 1:26 is explaining is
00:28:34.34\00:28:37.98
that the relationship
between Adam and Eve
00:28:38.01\00:28:40.95
was to reflect the relationship
00:28:40.98\00:28:43.28
between the Father and the Son.
00:28:43.32\00:28:45.79
It was an
exhibition on a smaller scale
00:28:45.82\00:28:49.16
of the relationship
between the Father and the Son.
00:28:49.19\00:28:52.56
Let's take a look
00:28:52.59\00:28:54.20
at the relationship
between Adam and Eve.
00:28:54.23\00:28:58.70
The creation story
makes it very clear
00:28:58.73\00:29:00.67
that Adam and Eve
are two distinct persons.
00:29:00.70\00:29:04.41
Because we are told,
00:29:04.44\00:29:05.77
they will no
longer be two but one.
00:29:05.81\00:29:08.21
They were two individuals
00:29:08.24\00:29:10.08
just like the
Father and Son are two.
00:29:10.11\00:29:14.05
And yet, we are told
in the creation story
00:29:14.08\00:29:17.22
that God pronounced
Adam and Eve the two what?
00:29:17.25\00:29:22.36
One in a sense of unity,
00:29:22.39\00:29:26.06
in the sense of
closeness and intimacy
00:29:26.09\00:29:29.86
they were two but one,
00:29:29.90\00:29:31.63
like the Father and
the Son are two but one.
00:29:31.67\00:29:36.34
Adam and Eve stood
on a level of equality.
00:29:36.37\00:29:41.24
They were equally human
00:29:41.28\00:29:44.41
and both are referred to
with the generic word, man.
00:29:44.45\00:29:49.08
Eve was not a
lesser order of humanity.
00:29:49.12\00:29:53.42
She was as much
human as Adam was human
00:29:53.46\00:29:57.03
just like the
Son was as much God
00:29:57.06\00:29:59.59
as the Father is God.
00:29:59.63\00:30:02.53
Patriarchs and
Prophets, page 46,
00:30:02.56\00:30:04.90
Ellen White explains,
00:30:04.93\00:30:06.53
"Eve was created from a rib
taken from the side of Adam.
00:30:06.57\00:30:10.97
Signifying that she was
not to control him as the head,
00:30:11.01\00:30:16.61
nor to be trampled
under His feet as an inferior.
00:30:16.64\00:30:20.28
But to stand by
His side as an equal
00:30:20.32\00:30:23.65
to be loved and
protected by him."
00:30:23.69\00:30:27.79
Just like the
Father and Son are equal,
00:30:27.82\00:30:31.26
both God.
00:30:31.29\00:30:33.26
Adam and Eve were
created equal, both human.
00:30:33.29\00:30:39.17
There was a special
intimacy between Adam and Eve.
00:30:39.20\00:30:43.17
Eve so to speak was
taken from the bosom of Adam.
00:30:43.20\00:30:48.74
In fact, you know
in Deuteronomy 13:6,
00:30:48.78\00:30:52.85
"The wife is called
the wife of thy bosom."
00:30:52.88\00:30:57.25
Interestingly enough,
00:30:57.29\00:30:59.29
so just as the Son is
in the bosom of the Father,
00:30:59.32\00:31:03.26
Eve was in the bosom of Adam.
00:31:03.29\00:31:07.93
Ellen White explains in
Patriarchs and Prophets,
00:31:07.96\00:31:10.57
page 46,
00:31:10.60\00:31:12.10
"Eve was created from a rib
taken from the side of Adam.
00:31:12.13\00:31:17.21
That's pretty
close to the heart.
00:31:17.24\00:31:18.84
It's pretty close to the bosom,
00:31:18.87\00:31:20.78
signifying that she was
not to control him as the head
00:31:20.81\00:31:23.95
nor be trampled under
His feet as an inferior.
00:31:23.98\00:31:26.28
But to stand by
His side as an equal
00:31:26.31\00:31:28.72
to be loved and
protected by him.
00:31:28.75\00:31:33.15
Eve because she
was taken from Adam
00:31:33.19\00:31:36.59
was in the image of Adam.
00:31:36.62\00:31:39.66
Of course,
00:31:39.69\00:31:41.03
she was in the
image of God through Adam
00:31:41.06\00:31:44.50
just like Jesus the Son
is the image of the Father.
00:31:44.53\00:31:49.24
Just like Jesus is the
second self of the Father,
00:31:49.27\00:31:54.31
Eve was the second self of Adam.
00:31:54.34\00:31:57.51
In the book
Patriarchs and Prophet,
00:31:57.55\00:31:59.91
page 46, Ellen White explains,
00:31:59.95\00:32:03.32
"A part of man bone of his
bone and flesh of his flesh.
00:32:03.35\00:32:07.19
She was his second
self, showing the close union
00:32:07.22\00:32:11.86
and the affectionate attachment
00:32:11.89\00:32:14.06
that it should
exist in this relation."
00:32:14.10\00:32:19.40
Eve was also
co-substantial with Adam.
00:32:19.43\00:32:22.90
She was flesh of his
flesh and bone of his bones.
00:32:22.94\00:32:27.38
Just like the
Son is co-substantial
00:32:27.41\00:32:30.28
with the Father.
00:32:30.31\00:32:31.65
In fact Adam
said in Genesis 2:23,
00:32:31.68\00:32:34.58
"This is now bone of my
bones and flesh of my flesh.
00:32:34.62\00:32:38.52
She shall be called woman,
00:32:38.55\00:32:40.19
because she was
taken out of man."
00:32:40.22\00:32:43.56
The woman was
also the glory of man
00:32:43.59\00:32:46.66
like the Son is the
glory of the Father.
00:32:46.70\00:32:49.06
In fact, the Apostle Paul
says in 1 Corinthians 11:7,
00:32:49.10\00:32:53.00
"For a man indeed
ought not to cover His head,
00:32:53.03\00:32:56.17
since He is the
image and glory of God,
00:32:56.20\00:32:58.87
but woman is the glory of man."
00:32:58.91\00:33:02.98
Are you seeing the parallels?
00:33:03.01\00:33:05.61
Amazing parallels.
00:33:05.65\00:33:08.58
The last
parallel also holds true.
00:33:08.62\00:33:12.75
Even though Adam and
Eve were created equal,
00:33:12.79\00:33:17.19
Eve was created to be subject
to the authority of Adam.
00:33:17.23\00:33:21.36
We don't like that
00:33:21.40\00:33:24.47
because the word authority,
the nasty little word,
00:33:24.50\00:33:28.40
the word submission
is a nasty little word
00:33:28.44\00:33:32.67
because we live
in a sinful world
00:33:32.71\00:33:34.38
and we look at those negatively
00:33:34.41\00:33:36.98
but the Bible does not.
00:33:37.01\00:33:39.28
Jesus was subject to His parents
00:33:39.31\00:33:42.62
that wasn't a bad thing.
00:33:42.65\00:33:44.65
That was a good thing.
00:33:44.69\00:33:46.69
The word submission is used
00:33:46.72\00:33:48.12
in a positive sense in scripture
00:33:48.16\00:33:49.79
as long as it
follows God's plan.
00:33:49.82\00:33:54.80
And so Adam was
created to be the head
00:33:54.83\00:33:57.47
and Eve was to be subject
00:33:57.50\00:34:00.40
to the leadership of Adam.
00:34:00.44\00:34:04.91
Now let's talk about Eve's sin.
00:34:04.94\00:34:09.08
Do you know what Eve sin was?
00:34:09.11\00:34:11.68
Yeah, she ate the
fruit, I know that,
00:34:11.71\00:34:14.75
but it was deeper than that.
00:34:14.78\00:34:17.35
You see Eve's sin
consisted of two parts.
00:34:17.39\00:34:21.36
Number one,
00:34:21.39\00:34:22.72
she acted independently of Adam.
00:34:22.76\00:34:28.43
And number two, even
though she was human,
00:34:28.46\00:34:31.73
she wanted to ascend
to the height of God.
00:34:31.77\00:34:36.94
Her sin was
primarily selfishness.
00:34:36.97\00:34:40.24
In other words,
00:34:40.28\00:34:41.78
she acted independently of Adam
00:34:41.81\00:34:43.68
even God told her stay with Adam
00:34:43.71\00:34:46.51
and she wanted to
ascend to the height of God.
00:34:46.55\00:34:51.32
Ellen White explains
in Patriarchs and Prophet,
00:34:51.35\00:34:53.66
pages 53 and 54.
00:34:53.69\00:34:55.62
"The angels had cautioned Eve
00:34:55.66\00:34:58.46
to beware of separating herself
00:34:58.49\00:35:01.36
from her husband
00:35:01.40\00:35:02.83
while occupied in their
daily labor in the garden.
00:35:02.86\00:35:07.00
He had cautioned
Eve not to separate.
00:35:07.04\00:35:10.07
With him she would be in
less danger from temptation
00:35:10.11\00:35:14.08
than if she were alone,
00:35:14.11\00:35:16.44
but absorbed in
her pleasing task,
00:35:16.48\00:35:20.15
she unconsciously
wandered from his sight,
00:35:20.18\00:35:24.85
independence."
00:35:24.89\00:35:27.92
Story of Redemption, page 32,
00:35:27.96\00:35:30.49
"Eve unconsciously at first
00:35:30.53\00:35:33.29
separated from her
husband in her employment.
00:35:33.33\00:35:38.13
When she became
aware of the fact,
00:35:38.17\00:35:39.77
she felt that there
might be danger but again,
00:35:39.80\00:35:42.30
the thought she
saw herself secure.
00:35:42.34\00:35:45.17
Even if she did not remain
00:35:45.21\00:35:47.11
close to the
side of her husband,
00:35:47.14\00:35:50.18
she had wisdom
and strength to know
00:35:50.21\00:35:52.38
if evil came and to meet it
00:35:52.41\00:35:54.75
by herself
independently of Adam."
00:35:54.78\00:36:00.02
That was Eve's sin,
00:36:00.06\00:36:02.12
wanting to ascend from
being a human to being God
00:36:02.16\00:36:05.89
and acting
independently of Adam, her head.
00:36:05.93\00:36:12.47
What was Adam's sin?
00:36:12.50\00:36:13.84
You're saying what this
is have to do with the cross,
00:36:13.87\00:36:15.64
just wait.
00:36:15.67\00:36:17.81
This is very intimately
related with the cross.
00:36:17.84\00:36:21.14
What was Adam's sin?
00:36:21.18\00:36:22.51
I know he ate the fruit
00:36:22.54\00:36:25.35
but his sin was deeper
than just eating the fruit.
00:36:25.38\00:36:30.02
You see like God the Father,
00:36:30.05\00:36:34.02
Adam had a most
precious possession
00:36:34.06\00:36:38.63
Eve,
00:36:38.66\00:36:41.33
and the big question
that Adam had to face was,
00:36:41.36\00:36:44.93
am I willing to give up Eve
00:36:44.97\00:36:49.04
who is one with me.
00:36:49.07\00:36:52.24
How can I give up
the one who is my image,
00:36:52.27\00:36:57.65
the image of God through him,
00:36:57.68\00:37:00.55
my same substance and my glory?
00:37:00.58\00:37:04.45
How could I tear from myself
00:37:04.49\00:37:06.45
the one who is
close to my bosom?
00:37:06.49\00:37:09.86
How can I live
without this person
00:37:09.89\00:37:13.90
that I love so much.
00:37:13.93\00:37:16.46
He could not conceive
of being separated forever
00:37:16.50\00:37:20.84
from the one that
was most precious to him.
00:37:20.87\00:37:23.41
He was selfish,
00:37:23.44\00:37:24.77
he was thinking only of himself.
00:37:24.81\00:37:27.94
Ellen White describes
the anguish and the agony
00:37:27.98\00:37:31.85
as Adam struggled with
the decision of whether
00:37:31.88\00:37:36.22
he would give up the most
precious thing that he had,
00:37:36.25\00:37:39.29
that he had
intimate relationship with.
00:37:39.32\00:37:42.46
The book, Conflict and Courage,
00:37:42.49\00:37:43.89
page 16, Ellen White explains,
00:37:43.93\00:37:45.46
"There was a
terrible struggle in his mind,
00:37:45.49\00:37:48.86
he mourned that
he had permitted Eve
00:37:48.90\00:37:52.93
to wander from his sight.
00:37:52.97\00:37:55.17
But now, the deed was done,
00:37:55.20\00:37:57.07
he must be separated from her."
00:37:57.11\00:38:01.34
See the anguish was whether
he was willing to be separated.
00:38:01.38\00:38:04.78
He must be separated from her
whose society had been his joy.
00:38:04.81\00:38:09.18
How could he have it thus.
00:38:09.22\00:38:11.92
Adam had enjoyed
the companionship of God
00:38:11.95\00:38:14.22
and of holy angels.
00:38:14.26\00:38:15.69
He had looked upon
the glory of the Creator.
00:38:15.72\00:38:18.73
He understood the high destiny
00:38:18.76\00:38:20.46
opened to the human race
00:38:20.50\00:38:22.30
should they
remain faithful to God."
00:38:22.33\00:38:23.70
He knew that if he was faithful,
00:38:23.73\00:38:26.57
the human race would be holy,
00:38:26.60\00:38:29.77
and the world will be
filled with righteous beings.
00:38:29.80\00:38:33.11
She continues saying,
00:38:33.14\00:38:34.48
"He understood the high
destiny open to the human race
00:38:34.51\00:38:37.15
should they
remain faithful to God.
00:38:37.18\00:38:38.81
Yet, all of these
blessings were lost of
00:38:38.85\00:38:41.92
in the fear of
losing that one gift
00:38:41.95\00:38:45.69
which in his eyes
out valued every other.
00:38:45.72\00:38:50.16
Love, gratitude, and
loyalty to the creator
00:38:50.19\00:38:53.63
all was
overborne by love to Eve.
00:38:53.66\00:38:57.50
She was a part of himself
00:38:57.53\00:39:00.14
and he could not endure
the thought of separation."
00:39:00.17\00:39:06.34
Could he give
up his precious Eve
00:39:06.37\00:39:09.91
at the risk of being,
separated from her forever?
00:39:09.94\00:39:16.58
We've studied the relationship
of the Father and the Son.
00:39:16.62\00:39:20.79
We have noticed
00:39:20.82\00:39:22.89
that they were two
distinct individuals
00:39:22.92\00:39:26.23
that they were one however,
00:39:26.26\00:39:28.40
that the Son was
the same substance,
00:39:28.43\00:39:30.30
is the same
substance as the Father,
00:39:30.33\00:39:32.20
flesh of His flesh
and bone of His bones.
00:39:32.23\00:39:34.97
We've noticed that Jesus
is in the bosom of His Father.
00:39:35.00\00:39:37.64
Jesus is the Father second self.
00:39:37.67\00:39:40.44
He's the express
image of His Father.
00:39:40.48\00:39:42.61
He's a reflection
of the Father's glory,
00:39:42.64\00:39:44.81
the most precious thing that
the Father has in the universe,
00:39:44.85\00:39:49.95
His precious Son.
00:39:49.98\00:39:53.42
Now we bring this
to a divine level.
00:39:53.46\00:39:57.23
The Father was faced
with a similar decision
00:39:57.26\00:40:01.26
as Adam.
00:40:01.30\00:40:05.73
Am I willing to give up my Son,
00:40:05.77\00:40:09.60
the most prized
possession in heaven,
00:40:09.64\00:40:14.54
the most intimate partner?
00:40:14.58\00:40:17.71
Am I willing to give up my
Son at the risk of eternal loss
00:40:17.75\00:40:23.62
or do I keep Him to Myself?
00:40:23.65\00:40:25.85
Are you seeing the parallel?
00:40:25.89\00:40:29.19
It was a struggle
00:40:29.22\00:40:31.69
for the Father
to give up His Son.
00:40:31.73\00:40:35.13
We find in Signs of the
Times, November 4, 1908,
00:40:35.16\00:40:39.00
"Before the Father,"
00:40:39.03\00:40:40.54
this is when Jesus is in heaven,
00:40:40.57\00:40:41.94
the human race has sinned.
00:40:41.97\00:40:43.77
"Before the Father He
pleaded in the sinner's behalf.
00:40:43.81\00:40:46.74
While the host of
heaven await of the result
00:40:46.78\00:40:48.74
with an intensity of interest
that words cannot express
00:40:48.78\00:40:53.11
long continued
was that mysterious
00:40:53.15\00:40:55.65
communing Jesus
is before His Father,
00:40:55.68\00:40:57.52
the counsel of peace
for the fallen sons of men.
00:40:57.55\00:41:00.92
The plan of
salvation had been laid
00:41:00.96\00:41:02.66
before the
creation of the earth,
00:41:02.69\00:41:04.33
for Christ is a lamb for ordain
00:41:04.36\00:41:06.80
before the
foundation of the world."
00:41:06.83\00:41:08.16
And now listen to this,
00:41:08.20\00:41:09.53
"Yet it was a struggle even
with the King of the universe
00:41:09.56\00:41:13.97
to yield up His Son to
die for the guilty race."
00:41:14.00\00:41:19.07
It was a what?
00:41:19.11\00:41:20.68
A struggle even for
the King of the universe,
00:41:20.71\00:41:23.61
He had to make the same decision
00:41:23.65\00:41:25.41
that Adam made.
00:41:25.45\00:41:27.82
In Desire of Ages, page 49,
00:41:27.85\00:41:30.55
Ellen White explained,
00:41:30.59\00:41:31.92
"God permitted His Son
to come a helpless babe
00:41:31.95\00:41:35.26
subject to the
weakness of humanity.
00:41:35.29\00:41:37.79
He permitted him
00:41:37.83\00:41:40.00
to meet life's peril in
common with every human soul
00:41:40.03\00:41:44.07
to fight the battle as
every child of humanity
00:41:44.10\00:41:46.87
must fight it."
00:41:46.90\00:41:48.24
Now listen carefully,
00:41:48.27\00:41:49.60
"At the risk of
failure an internal loss."
00:41:49.64\00:41:54.41
The Father was willing
to risk eternal failure
00:41:54.44\00:41:57.48
and loss of His Son.
00:41:57.51\00:42:00.12
She continue saying,
00:42:00.15\00:42:01.48
"The heart of a human
Father yearns over His Son.
00:42:01.52\00:42:04.49
He looks into the
face of His little child
00:42:04.52\00:42:06.52
and trembles at the
thought of life's peril.
00:42:06.55\00:42:09.89
He longs to shield His
dear one from Satan's power
00:42:09.92\00:42:14.00
to hold him back from
temptation and conflict.
00:42:14.03\00:42:17.47
To meet a bitterer
conflict and more fearful risk
00:42:17.50\00:42:22.67
God gave His only begotten
Son that the path of life
00:42:22.70\00:42:26.54
might be made sure
for our little ones.
00:42:26.57\00:42:30.05
Here is love one
under all heavens
00:42:30.08\00:42:33.15
and be astonished over."
00:42:33.18\00:42:37.05
And Ellen White explains
in Christ Object Lessons,
00:42:37.09\00:42:39.12
page 196,
00:42:39.15\00:42:41.06
"For our redemption
heaven itself was imperiled,"
00:42:41.09\00:42:47.36
What?
00:42:47.40\00:42:49.43
For our redemption
heaven was imperiled
00:42:49.46\00:42:52.90
what this word imperiled mean.
00:42:52.93\00:42:54.30
I looked it up in the dictionary
00:42:54.34\00:42:55.67
it means, "to put at
risk of being harmed,
00:42:55.70\00:42:59.11
injured or destroyed to
in danger to jeopardize."
00:42:59.14\00:43:03.91
God jeopardized heaven itself
00:43:03.95\00:43:08.08
when Je... when Jesus
was sent to this earth.
00:43:08.12\00:43:11.89
So the Father had
the same basic choice
00:43:11.92\00:43:14.99
under only on a much
grander scale that Adam had.
00:43:15.02\00:43:19.19
But God did the
opposite of Adam.
00:43:19.23\00:43:21.76
Amen.
00:43:21.80\00:43:23.13
He was willing to give up
His most prized possession
00:43:23.16\00:43:27.70
the one He was intimate with
00:43:27.74\00:43:29.77
at the risk of
losing him forever.
00:43:29.80\00:43:33.44
Romans 8:32, says,
00:43:33.48\00:43:35.68
"He who did not
spare His own Son,
00:43:35.71\00:43:39.05
but delivered Him up for us all,
00:43:39.08\00:43:41.38
how shall He not with Him
00:43:41.42\00:43:44.02
also freely give us all things?"
00:43:44.05\00:43:47.19
In Review and Herald,
00:43:47.22\00:43:48.56
it's good to hear
those amen's help me please.
00:43:48.59\00:43:50.99
Review and Herald, July 9, 1895,
00:43:51.03\00:43:54.03
Listen to this
statement, Ellen White says,
00:43:54.06\00:43:56.30
"The Eternal Father
the unchangeable one
00:43:56.33\00:43:59.83
gave His only begotten Son
00:43:59.87\00:44:02.14
tore from His bosom,
00:44:02.17\00:44:07.18
him who was made in the
express image of His person
00:44:07.21\00:44:10.88
and sent him down to the earth
00:44:10.91\00:44:13.45
to reveal how
greatly He loved mankind."
00:44:13.48\00:44:18.79
Amen.
00:44:18.82\00:44:22.99
You remember the statement
that I read a little while ago,
00:44:23.02\00:44:25.26
that it was a struggle
for the King of the universe
00:44:25.29\00:44:27.03
to give up His Son.
00:44:27.06\00:44:28.93
Let me finish
that statement now,
00:44:28.96\00:44:31.67
she says, "But after stating
00:44:31.70\00:44:36.00
that it was a struggle even
for the King of the universe
00:44:36.04\00:44:38.01
to yield up His Son
to die for a guilty race.
00:44:38.04\00:44:39.84
She says, "But how
God so loved the world
00:44:39.87\00:44:44.41
that He gave His
only begotten Son
00:44:44.45\00:44:46.85
that whosoever believeth in Him
00:44:46.88\00:44:48.65
should not perish but
have everlasting life."
00:44:48.68\00:44:51.09
All the mystery of redemption
00:44:51.12\00:44:54.82
the love of God for a
world that did not love him,
00:44:54.86\00:44:58.99
who can know the
depths of that love
00:44:59.03\00:45:01.76
which pass of
knowledge through endless ages.
00:45:01.80\00:45:06.63
Immortal minds seeking
to comprehend the mystery
00:45:06.67\00:45:10.17
of that incomprehensible
love will wonder and adore."
00:45:10.21\00:45:17.08
So the Father
struggled with similar
00:45:17.11\00:45:18.61
to the struggle of Adam.
00:45:18.65\00:45:22.32
What about Eve sin?
00:45:22.35\00:45:25.75
Do you remember
what Eve sin was?
00:45:25.79\00:45:28.32
Wanting to ascend
to the heights of God
00:45:28.36\00:45:32.29
and acting independently
00:45:32.33\00:45:35.90
of Adam her head.
00:45:35.93\00:45:37.67
Did Jesus face
those same two dilemmas?
00:45:41.10\00:45:45.34
Listen carefully folks,
00:45:45.37\00:45:47.01
Jesus was God but
instead of desiring to ascend,
00:45:47.04\00:45:52.98
He was willing to descend.
00:45:53.01\00:45:56.38
We're told in Philippians 2:5-8.
00:45:56.42\00:46:00.16
"Let this mind be in you
which was also in Christ Jesus,
00:46:00.19\00:46:03.96
who, being in the form of God,
00:46:03.99\00:46:05.69
did not consider it
robbery to be equal with God,
00:46:05.73\00:46:08.66
but made Himself
of no reputation,
00:46:08.70\00:46:10.97
taking the form
of a bondservant,
00:46:11.00\00:46:12.80
and coming in
the likeness of men.
00:46:12.83\00:46:14.87
And being found in
appearance as a man,
00:46:14.90\00:46:17.51
He humbled Himself
00:46:17.54\00:46:18.87
and became obedient
to the point of death,
00:46:18.91\00:46:21.01
even death of the cross."
00:46:21.04\00:46:24.61
Instead of Jesus
saying, "I'm gonna go up.
00:46:24.65\00:46:28.52
He was up there and He says,
00:46:28.55\00:46:30.29
"I'm gonna go down."
00:46:30.32\00:46:32.85
Just the
opposite of what Eve did.
00:46:32.89\00:46:35.99
And instead of Jesus acting
independently of His Father,
00:46:36.02\00:46:40.03
Jesus always said,
"Father, Your will be done,
00:46:40.06\00:46:44.40
I will do what
you say as my head,
00:46:44.43\00:46:46.84
I will do what
you say as my leader.
00:46:46.87\00:46:50.27
I will perform Your will
00:46:50.31\00:46:52.34
not mine will
be done but Yours."
00:46:52.37\00:46:56.34
He did just the opposite of Eve.
00:46:56.38\00:47:00.08
That's why I say
00:47:00.12\00:47:01.45
the relationship
between the Father and the Son
00:47:01.48\00:47:03.42
is reflected on a small scale
00:47:03.45\00:47:06.15
in the relationship
between Adam and Eve.
00:47:06.19\00:47:08.92
So the Father was willing to do
00:47:13.70\00:47:15.23
what Adam was unwilling to do,
00:47:15.26\00:47:18.20
give up what was
most precious to him
00:47:18.23\00:47:21.20
at the risk of eternal
loss and eternal separation.
00:47:21.24\00:47:25.37
And the Son was willing to do
00:47:25.41\00:47:26.98
what Eve had
been unwilling to do,
00:47:27.01\00:47:30.05
comedown at the risk of failing
00:47:30.08\00:47:32.68
and being separated
from His Father for eternity.
00:47:32.71\00:47:37.92
You know what's
most amazing to me.
00:47:37.95\00:47:39.59
That the Father and the Son
00:47:43.36\00:47:46.66
would have been
willing to take this risk
00:47:46.70\00:47:50.03
for one, for one!
00:47:50.07\00:47:55.07
Look at the person next to you.
00:47:59.41\00:48:02.98
Jesus would have
given His life for that one.
00:48:03.01\00:48:05.95
You say, "Oh, He
would have given it for me."
00:48:05.98\00:48:07.38
Yeah, but we need to think
00:48:07.42\00:48:09.18
that He would have
given it for others too
00:48:09.22\00:48:13.96
because we
should focus on others.
00:48:13.99\00:48:15.76
Those are the ones
that Jesus focused upon.
00:48:15.79\00:48:19.03
What is the value of a soul?
00:48:19.06\00:48:21.83
The value could
only be understood
00:48:21.86\00:48:24.27
by the risk that
the Father and the Son
00:48:24.30\00:48:26.97
were willing to
take to save one.
00:48:27.00\00:48:32.51
The Father and the Son
00:48:32.54\00:48:35.21
would have been
willing to save only one soul
00:48:35.24\00:48:37.25
and we're not
talking about sophisticated
00:48:37.28\00:48:39.45
and refined sinners like us.
00:48:39.48\00:48:42.92
We're talking about murderers,
adulterers, homosexuals,
00:48:42.95\00:48:46.96
thieves, liars, idolaters.
00:48:46.99\00:48:50.03
Jesus would have come
to die for one of those,
00:48:50.06\00:48:52.79
which we consider to
be the scum of the earth
00:48:52.83\00:48:56.97
but which God
considers precious.
00:48:57.00\00:49:01.10
Allow me to read you some
statements from Ellen White
00:49:01.14\00:49:04.71
on the value of a soul.
00:49:04.74\00:49:06.07
God's Amazing Grace, page 173,
00:49:09.74\00:49:13.82
by the way before I
read that statement,
00:49:13.85\00:49:17.05
do you know that
Ellen White says,
00:49:17.09\00:49:19.22
that the value of
the soul is infinite,
00:49:19.25\00:49:22.29
the soul is of infinite value?
00:49:22.32\00:49:24.76
How do you buy something
that is of infinite value?
00:49:24.79\00:49:30.07
Only by paying
an infinite price.
00:49:30.10\00:49:33.34
Listen to these statements,
00:49:33.37\00:49:35.50
"The wealth of earth
dwindles into insignificance,
00:49:35.54\00:49:41.54
the wealth of earth
dwindles into insignificance
00:49:41.58\00:49:46.75
when compared with
the worth of a single soul
00:49:46.78\00:49:51.95
for whom our
Lord and Master died.
00:49:51.99\00:49:55.62
He who weigh up
the hills in scales
00:49:55.66\00:49:58.26
and the mountains in a balance
00:49:58.29\00:50:00.36
regards a human soul
as of infinite value.
00:50:00.40\00:50:06.03
One soul is of infinite value."
00:50:06.07\00:50:08.57
In the book,
Testimonies for the Church,
00:50:12.17\00:50:14.61
Volume 3, page 186,
00:50:14.64\00:50:17.91
Ellen White explains,
"The soul is of infinite value.
00:50:17.95\00:50:21.88
Its worth can be estimated only
by the price paid to ransom it.
00:50:21.92\00:50:25.92
You want to know
much our soul is worth.
00:50:25.95\00:50:27.92
Look at Jesus, what He
gave, what the Father did.
00:50:27.96\00:50:30.63
Then you know what the value is.
00:50:30.66\00:50:33.66
Once again the soul
is of infinite value.
00:50:33.70\00:50:36.06
Its worth can be estimated
00:50:36.10\00:50:37.63
only by the price
paid to ransom it.
00:50:37.67\00:50:39.53
Calvary, Calvary,
00:50:39.57\00:50:41.80
Calvary will explain
the true value of the soul."
00:50:41.84\00:50:48.31
Here's another one
Testimonies for the Church,
00:50:48.34\00:50:50.11
Volume 6, pages 21 and 22,
00:50:50.15\00:50:54.08
"One soul is of
more value to heaven
00:50:54.12\00:50:57.99
than a whole world of property,
00:50:58.02\00:51:00.49
houses, lands, and money,
00:51:00.52\00:51:03.83
for the conversion of one soul
00:51:03.86\00:51:06.39
we should tax our
resources to the outmost."
00:51:06.43\00:51:11.13
Amen.
00:51:11.17\00:51:13.34
Ministry of Healing, page 135,
00:51:13.37\00:51:15.07
Ellen White presents this
theme in all of her writings.
00:51:15.10\00:51:17.94
She says, "If but one soul
00:51:17.97\00:51:21.34
would have accepted
the gospel of His graced
00:51:21.38\00:51:24.25
Christ would to save that
one have chosen His life of toil
00:51:24.28\00:51:29.65
and humiliation and
His death of shame."
00:51:29.68\00:51:35.06
Christ Object Lessons, page 196,
00:51:35.09\00:51:38.59
Ellen White explains,
00:51:38.63\00:51:39.96
the value of
soul who can estimate,
00:51:40.00\00:51:42.46
"Would you know its
worth, go to Gethsemane.
00:51:42.50\00:51:45.73
And there watch with Christ
through those hours of anguish
00:51:45.77\00:51:49.10
when He sweat as it
were great drops of blood,
00:51:49.14\00:51:51.87
look upon the Savior
uplifted on the cross,
00:51:51.91\00:51:55.54
hear that despairing cry,
00:51:55.58\00:51:57.01
"My God, my God why
has thou forsaken me."
00:51:57.05\00:52:00.75
Look upon the wounded head,
00:52:00.78\00:52:02.38
the pierced
side, the marred feet.
00:52:02.42\00:52:05.72
Remember listen carefully,
00:52:05.75\00:52:07.46
Remember that Christ
risked all for our redemption,
00:52:07.49\00:52:12.39
heaven itself was impelled
00:52:12.43\00:52:15.43
at the foot of the cross
00:52:15.46\00:52:16.80
remembering that for one sinner,
00:52:16.83\00:52:19.03
Christ would have
laid down His life.
00:52:19.07\00:52:21.07
You may estimate
the value of a soul."
00:52:21.10\00:52:24.31
Amen.
00:52:24.34\00:52:26.44
That's why I want to
make a call this evening.
00:52:26.47\00:52:29.91
The call is very simple.
00:52:29.94\00:52:34.52
The group that we
have in this place
00:52:34.55\00:52:36.45
has unlimited
potential with the power of God.
00:52:36.48\00:52:42.29
The devil knows that
00:52:42.32\00:52:43.73
that the hope of the
church is found in the youth
00:52:43.76\00:52:47.40
and of the young adults
00:52:47.43\00:52:49.40
because you have the energy,
00:52:49.43\00:52:50.77
you have clear minds,
you have the strength,
00:52:50.80\00:52:52.73
you have the
desire, you have the vision,
00:52:52.77\00:52:57.51
and so what the devil has done.
00:52:57.54\00:52:58.94
He's caused all
sorts of distractions
00:52:58.97\00:53:02.11
to keep us from doing
that which is important.
00:53:02.14\00:53:05.95
I want to challenge all of those
00:53:05.98\00:53:08.78
who are gathered
here this evening.
00:53:08.82\00:53:10.15
I want to ask, how many of you
00:53:10.19\00:53:12.95
as you've seen what
the Father and the Son
00:53:12.99\00:53:15.69
were willing to risk to save
00:53:15.72\00:53:18.79
each one of us
that are gathered here
00:53:18.83\00:53:20.73
would be willing to say tonight.
00:53:20.76\00:53:23.20
"God through Your grace,
00:53:23.23\00:53:26.40
and through
Your power this year,
00:53:26.43\00:53:29.34
I am going to work to my utmost
00:53:29.37\00:53:33.91
to bring at least one
soul to the feet of Jesus."
00:53:33.94\00:53:38.85
Are you willing to make
that commitment this evening?
00:53:38.88\00:53:41.28
Do you want to stand
00:53:41.32\00:53:42.65
if you're willing to
make that commitment?
00:53:42.68\00:53:44.15
When you go home, you say,
"I'm gonna reach one soul."
00:53:44.19\00:53:47.92
It might be a friend,
00:53:47.96\00:53:50.73
it might be a relative,
00:53:50.76\00:53:52.63
focus, I'm an individual,
00:53:52.66\00:53:55.63
it might be a fellow worker,
00:53:55.66\00:53:57.00
it might be a stranger.
00:53:57.03\00:53:59.00
It might be a person
who lives on the street,
00:53:59.03\00:54:02.90
but God wants us to
work for one soul you know.
00:54:02.94\00:54:05.51
If we work for one soul
00:54:05.54\00:54:09.78
we have duplicate the
number that we have here,
00:54:09.81\00:54:13.42
won't that be marvelous?
00:54:13.45\00:54:14.98
And those who are
watching on television.
00:54:15.02\00:54:16.95
Wow!
00:54:16.99\00:54:18.32
If they became involved
and did it for one soul,
00:54:18.35\00:54:22.99
the church would grow
when we finish God's work.
00:54:23.02\00:54:25.69
Are you happy
living in this world.
00:54:25.73\00:54:27.96
Listen in heaven we're
not gonna need iPhones.
00:54:28.00\00:54:32.13
We won't need Twitter.
00:54:32.17\00:54:35.77
I mean, we'll travel instantly
00:54:35.80\00:54:37.64
from earth to
heaven and to the planets,
00:54:37.67\00:54:40.98
you know there's
something that really,
00:54:41.01\00:54:42.64
that really is
interesting to me is to see
00:54:42.68\00:54:44.91
two individuals sitting by sight
00:54:44.95\00:54:46.55
side by side
and they're texting.
00:54:46.58\00:54:51.05
In heaven we're
gonna communicate.
00:54:51.09\00:54:52.92
Amen.
00:54:52.95\00:54:54.92
Face to face, mouth to mouth.
00:54:54.96\00:54:59.66
Praise the Lord
for your response.
00:54:59.69\00:55:02.36
Now how about we go
out there after GYC,
00:55:02.40\00:55:07.00
and just use the energy
00:55:07.04\00:55:08.37
that God has
given it to do this.
00:55:08.40\00:55:10.81
I'd like to make a second call,
00:55:10.84\00:55:14.61
perhaps there are some here
00:55:14.64\00:55:15.98
who have not given
their lives to the Lord Jesus,
00:55:16.01\00:55:18.71
here that one soul
that Jesus came to die for
00:55:18.75\00:55:20.75
but you haven't
made a commitment to Him.
00:55:20.78\00:55:24.35
If you're that person,
00:55:24.39\00:55:25.72
I would like to ask you
to raise your hand right now
00:55:25.75\00:55:28.79
and say, "I'm going to
give my life to the Lord Jesus,
00:55:28.82\00:55:32.43
if He risked it all for me,
00:55:32.46\00:55:35.76
I'm going to give
my entire life to him."
00:55:35.80\00:55:37.50
Do you want to raise
your hand at this time,
00:55:37.53\00:55:39.43
if you're in that category.
00:55:39.47\00:55:42.57
I can't see very well
00:55:42.60\00:55:43.94
because we have these
lights in my face here,
00:55:43.97\00:55:46.81
but is there anyone
00:55:46.84\00:55:48.18
who has not made a
commitment to Jesus Christ
00:55:48.21\00:55:49.91
that would like to
do that this evening
00:55:49.94\00:55:51.61
by raising your hand.
00:55:51.65\00:55:52.98
I want to have a special
word of prayer for you tonight.
00:55:53.01\00:55:56.82
I see some hands,
00:55:56.85\00:55:58.19
several hands
it's very difficult.
00:55:58.22\00:56:00.26
Could I ask you
please to come forward,
00:56:00.29\00:56:02.66
I know that's the big request
00:56:02.69\00:56:04.36
but could I ask
you to come forward,
00:56:04.39\00:56:05.79
that we have a
sea of people out here
00:56:05.83\00:56:08.56
and I just can't see
00:56:08.60\00:56:09.93
all of the
hands that are raised.
00:56:09.96\00:56:11.30
Could you please
come over to this side?
00:56:11.33\00:56:13.10
I want to have a
word of prayer with you.
00:56:13.13\00:56:16.84
Please come quickly.
00:56:16.87\00:56:19.84
I thank 3ABN for giving
me some extra time tonight,
00:56:19.87\00:56:23.65
to present this message,
00:56:23.68\00:56:25.01
which I consider to
be extremely important.
00:56:25.05\00:56:26.61
Please gather
right here in front.
00:56:26.65\00:56:28.58
I'm going to have a special
word of prayer for all of you,
00:56:28.62\00:56:32.65
don't delay, Jesus
is calling you tonight.
00:56:32.69\00:56:37.59
Oh, I'll do it
tomorrow you might say,
00:56:37.63\00:56:39.03
well, tomorrow isn't ours.
00:56:39.06\00:56:41.63
We don't know if
we'll be alive tomorrow.
00:56:41.66\00:56:44.47
Today is the day of
salvation the Bible says,
00:56:44.50\00:56:46.37
we have several
00:56:46.40\00:56:47.74
that are coming
forward at this time.
00:56:47.77\00:56:50.67
Praise the Lord, the
Spirit is working here.
00:56:50.71\00:56:54.11
Is there anyone else
00:56:54.14\00:56:55.48
that would like to come forward.
00:56:55.51\00:56:56.85
Please walk your way forward.
00:56:56.88\00:56:58.21
I don't want to
cut short this meeting
00:56:58.25\00:56:59.58
without giving the
opportunity to everyone
00:56:59.61\00:57:01.62
who has heard
the call of the Lord
00:57:01.65\00:57:02.98
tonight to come forward
00:57:03.02\00:57:04.35
and answer this call
that Jesus is making to you
00:57:04.39\00:57:06.45
not Pastor Bohr,
Jesus, through Pastor Bohr.
00:57:06.49\00:57:12.23
Praise the Lord for
this beautiful group.
00:57:12.26\00:57:14.13