Spring Camp Meeting 2013

Another Look at Thyatira

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Participants: Stephen Bohr

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00:31 We welcome you again to this first night
00:35 of 3ABN Spring Camp Meeting.
00:37 And I think you will agree with me that that message
00:40 we just heard from Pastor Nelson was a powerful message
00:43 and it was one that challenged us to show love
00:48 one to another, to our friends, and even
00:50 those we may not consider our friends.
00:52 Our emblem is to be Christians who love everyone
00:57 in Jesus' name. We need to keep that in mind.
00:59 Our speaker for this hour is certainly no stranger
01:02 to those of you who are familiar with 3ABN.
01:04 Pastor Stephen Bohr is the Speaker/Director of Secrets
01:08 Unsealed Ministries in California.
01:11 They have just recently moved into a brand-new facility.
01:14 They are expanding their reach.
01:16 It is a world-wide ministry.
01:18 He is a much-sought-after speaker and one who
01:21 has distinguished himself as a student of the Word.
01:25 He is the husband of one wife and the father of two children.
01:29 Matched set... a boy and a girl.
01:31 And you can't do any better than that
01:33 and so he stopped with those two.
01:34 But he is a wonderful preacher.
01:36 I must say I have ought against Pastor Bohr.
01:40 Some years ago I was in Panama with my wife
01:42 and we had a choice. We could go hear Pastor Boullón
01:45 who is another famous Spanish speaker at one church
01:47 or Pastor Bohr at another. And so we decided
01:50 to go hear Pastor Bohr.
01:52 It was a good choice because we found out later that
01:55 Pastor Boullón was going to be there by tape
01:58 and Pastor Bohr was going to be there live.
02:00 So we went to see the live preacher.
02:02 But a couple days before his church was building a church
02:05 way up in the mountains.
02:07 And we went up to see his church and be up there in the
02:10 mountains. We found out that that was the one day
02:12 that his church decided to go to the beach.
02:15 So we were stuck in the mountains;
02:16 they were at the beach. And then my brother-in-law
02:18 decided to lock the keys in the car.
02:20 So we're up in the mountains. No phone; no cell service.
02:24 Up in the mountains, and so I decided to use some old tricks
02:28 that I learned on the streets of Buffalo, New York,
02:30 to get into that car.
02:32 So we had to do a little jimmying and I forgot to send
02:35 Pastor Bohr the bill for the broken window.
02:38 We never did do that... we had grace on him.
02:41 But he is a great friend of this ministry
02:43 and one who is a favorite among those who listen
02:47 and watch Three Angels Broadcasting Network.
02:49 And so we are expectant
02:53 of a wonderful message for our last message of this evening.
02:57 We're going to pray now and then I'm going to ask
02:59 my friend and my pastor John Lomacang
03:01 to come and to sing. And then after he shall have
03:04 sung the next voice that you will hear will be that of
03:07 Pastor Stephen Bohr,
03:08 Speaker/Director of Secrets Unsealed Ministries.
03:12 Shall we pray? Father God,
03:14 we thank You and praise You for this, another opportunity
03:19 to sit and hear a word from the Lord.
03:24 In these dry and thirsty days we need a refreshing.
03:29 We need the water of life.
03:32 And we ask that You would use Your manservant in a special way
03:36 because we don't need to hear the thoughts of man
03:39 or the words of man. We need to hear a word from Christ.
03:43 So give us open and receptive hearts
03:46 and ears so that we can hear and know and do.
03:53 For it is in the doing that we are made like Christ Jesus.
03:57 And so bless now this sitting tonight
04:00 that Christ may be experienced by each of us
04:03 here in this house and those who watch
04:07 and listen from around the world.
04:09 We praise You and we thank You for what You are about to do.
04:13 In Jesus' name, Amen.
04:17 Just now: our pastor, our friend John Lomacang.
04:41 Time measured out my days.
04:48 Life carried me along.
04:55 In my soul I yearned
05:00 to follow God
05:03 but knew I'd never be so strong.
05:09 I looked hard at this world
05:13 to learn how heaven
05:17 could be gained
05:22 just to end where I began
05:27 where human effort
05:31 is all in vain.
05:37 Were it not for grace
05:45 I can tell you
05:47 where I'd be:
05:52 walking down some pointless road
05:57 to nowhere
05:59 with my salvation up to me.
06:05 And I know how that would go.
06:13 The battles I would face.
06:19 Forever running
06:23 but losing the race
06:27 were it not for grace.
06:37 So here is all my praise
06:44 expressed with all my heart
06:51 offered to the Friend
06:55 who took my place
06:59 and ran a course
07:02 I could not start.
07:05 And when He saw in full
07:10 just how much His love would cost.
07:18 He still ran that final mile
07:23 between me and heaven
07:27 so I would not be lost.
07:33 So were it not for
07:37 grace
07:41 I can tell you where
07:46 I'd be:
07:48 wandering down some pointless road
07:53 to nowhere
07:56 with my salvation up to me.
08:02 And I know how that would go.
08:08 All the battles I would face.
08:16 Forever running
08:19 yet losing the race
08:23 were it not for God's grace.
08:30 Forever running
08:34 yet losing the race
08:38 were it not
08:41 for
08:45 grace.
08:55 Amen!
09:09 Good evening. Good evening.
09:13 What a pleasure it is to see so many of you here
09:16 on a Wednesday night.
09:19 You know, somebody said it was Thursday night out there.
09:24 And they're right... because Biblically this is Thursday
09:28 night... because the night comes before the day.
09:32 Good to be here once again at 3ABN for Camp Meeting.
09:37 Some very, very special time.
09:39 I've been looking forward to it.
09:42 Before we study God's Word this evening, however,
09:46 we want to ask for the Lord's special blessing.
09:49 And so I invite you along with me to bow your heads
09:52 reverently as we pray.
09:56 Our Father and our God, what a privilege it is to be here
10:00 in this beautiful place.
10:02 We thank you, Father, for Your Word
10:05 which is a sure guide in a world that is so confused.
10:09 As we look at the world, it seems to be falling apart
10:13 at the seams.
10:15 But we thank you that in Your Word You tell us that You have
10:18 everything under control.
10:20 You still sit on the throne and You rule in the affairs of men.
10:24 We ask that You will bless us as we open the pages
10:27 of Your Holy Book
10:29 and we thank you for Your presence.
10:31 And we're certain of it because we pray in the
10:35 precious name of Jesus, Amen.
10:38 Amen.
10:40 I'd like to begin by mentioning
10:43 that in the book of Revelation
10:46 we have seven churches
10:49 which represent seven periods
10:53 in the history of the Christian church.
10:57 I'd like to begin by reading
10:59 a statement that we find
11:00 in the book Acts of the Apostles page 585
11:04 where Ellen White describes the seven churches
11:09 and their specific meaning.
11:12 This is what she says:
11:14 "The names of the seven churches are symbolic
11:18 of the church in different periods of the Christian era.
11:23 The number seven indicates completeness
11:27 and is symbolic of the fact that the messages extend
11:30 to the end of time.
11:32 While the symbols used
11:34 reveal the condition of the church
11:37 at different periods in the history of the world. "
11:41 So clearly the Spirit of Prophecy tells us here
11:44 that the seven churches represent 7 consecutive periods
11:49 in the history of the Christian church
11:51 from apostolic times till the very end of time.
11:55 Now it's interesting to notice that Ellen White is not alone
11:59 in this concept
12:01 because most conservative evangelical scholars agree
12:06 that the seven churches represent seven periods
12:10 of church history.
12:12 I'd just like to read a statement by one of those
12:15 scholars so that you can see that this is not unique
12:19 to Ellen White.
12:21 Now I'm going to read from someone with whom
12:24 Ellen White disagrees probably 99.99% of the time.
12:31 His name is Hal Lindsey.
12:35 And in his book Vanished Into Thin Air
12:38 page 276
12:41 Hal Lindsey said this... which is correct.
12:45 "I believe along with many scholars
12:49 that these seven letters were not only written to
12:53 seven literal churches with real problems
12:57 but also that they have a prophetic application
13:01 to church history.
13:03 I believe that these seven churches
13:05 were selected and arranged by our omniscient Lord
13:10 because they had problems and characteristics
13:14 that would prophesy seven stages
13:17 of history through which the church universal would pass. "
13:22 Very similar to what we read from Acts of the Apostles
13:25 page 585.
13:27 And Hal Lindsey is not the only one.
13:31 There are many, many other scholars that I could read
13:34 that believe that the seven churches represent 7 periods
13:38 of church history from the days of the apostles
13:40 till the end of time.
13:42 Now evangelical Protestant scholars believe that the church
13:45 of Ephesus represents the apostolic church.
13:50 They believe that the church of Smyrna represents
13:53 the church that was persecuted during the period
13:55 of the Roman emperors.
13:58 They believe that the church of Pergamum represents
14:00 the church during the period when apostasy entered
14:04 the church - darkness entered the church - in the times of
14:07 Emperor Constantine.
14:09 They believe that the church of Thyatira represents
14:12 the church during the period of papal supremacy.
14:16 The period of the Middle Ages... the Dark Ages if you please.
14:21 They believe that the church of Sardis represents
14:24 the Protestant Reformation.
14:26 Believe it or not, not only Adventist writers
14:29 but also non-Adventist evangelicals have believed that.
14:32 Now when you get to Philadelphia and Laodicea
14:34 they become a little fuzzier as to what it applies to.
14:39 But virtually all who believe the seven churches represent
14:43 seven periods of church history
14:44 agree that Ephesus is the apostolic church,
14:48 Smyrna is the persecuted church by the Roman emperors,
14:51 Pergamum is the church of the days of Constantine,
14:53 Thyatira is the church of papal supremacy,
14:57 and Sardis is the church of the Protestant Reformation.
15:02 Now as I've studied the seven churches
15:05 I've come to a very important conclusion:
15:09 and that is that the seven churches are to Revelation
15:13 what Daniel 2 is to the book of Daniel.
15:17 Now Daniel 2 is foundational to all of the book.
15:21 The book of Daniel builds upon chapter 2.
15:24 And I believe that the same is true about the 7 churches.
15:28 The seven churches provide the foundational prophecy
15:32 of the book of Revelation.
15:33 It gives us the skeleton or the basic chronological structure
15:39 for the rest of the book.
15:40 If you please, it gives us the framework upon which
15:43 the book of Revelation in its entirety presents itself.
15:49 Now this evening we are going to begin our four-part study
15:54 with one of the seven churches: the church of Thyatira.
16:00 Now the church of Thyatira is the 4th church in the sequence.
16:05 Before we study the church of Thyatira, however,
16:08 we need to take a look at some principles
16:12 that will guide us in our study.
16:15 You see, in scripture you really have four stages to Elijah.
16:21 And Elijah is linked with the message to the church
16:24 of Thyatira. The first stage of Elijah
16:27 is the historical Elijah in the Old Testament
16:30 who was called to speak to literal Israel.
16:33 The second Elijah or the second stage of Elijah
16:37 is John the Baptist. And we'll be studying John the Baptist
16:40 a little bit later on in this series.
16:42 The third stage - which is the one that we're going to take
16:45 a look at tonight - is the stage of Elijah
16:49 during the 1260 years,
16:50 during the period of the church of Thyatira.
16:53 And the fourth stage is the end-time Elijah...
16:58 the Elijah that will exist and be alive
17:02 when Jesus comes if you please.
17:04 So there are actually four stages to the Elijah prophecy.
17:09 Now the first two Elijahs are literal individuals
17:13 and they have three literal enemies... personal enemies.
17:17 The last two Elijahs are not individuals.
17:20 The individuals represent world-wide movements
17:26 and world-wide systems or powers.
17:28 In other words, you're dealing with type and anti-type.
17:32 Elijah in the Old Testament and John the Baptist in the
17:35 New Testament become symbolic individuals along with
17:38 their enemies of the Elijah during the 1260 years
17:42 and the end-time Elijah.
17:45 But at the end time, Elijah is not an individual...
17:48 Elijah is a movement.
17:51 And his three enemies are not individuals...
17:54 his three enemies represent global world-wide systems.
18:00 Now there are four main protagonists in the story
18:03 of Elijah.
18:04 The first protagonist is a determined and strong-willed
18:09 harlot woman whose name is Jezebel.
18:12 The second protagonist of the story
18:15 is a weak and easily-influenced king
18:20 whose name was Ahab.
18:24 The third protagonist or we could say protagonists of the
18:28 story are apostate false prophets that did the bidding
18:33 of this harlot Jezebel.
18:36 And of course the fourth protagonist was none less
18:40 than Elijah, who was called by God to denounce
18:44 this union of the king with Jezebel
18:47 and the prophets of Baal.
18:50 Now it's very important to realize that whenever Elijah
18:53 appears in scripture he never appears alone.
18:57 Whenever Elijah appears, he always appears in bad company.
19:01 In other words, his three enemies appear with him.
19:05 Whether it's the Old Testament Elijah,
19:07 whether it's John the Baptist,
19:08 whether it's the Elijah during the 1260 years,
19:11 or the very end-time Elijah...
19:13 whenever Elijah appears in scripture
19:17 his three enemies appear along with him.
19:21 And so in the four stages of Elijah we're going to have to
19:25 find a determined and strong-willed harlot woman,
19:28 we're going to have to find a weak and easily-influenced king,
19:33 we're going to have to find false prophets who do
19:35 the bidding of this woman, and we are going to have to find
19:39 Elijah who is called to rebuke this unity
19:43 of this three-fold alliance.
19:47 Now I would like us to begin by reading the message
19:51 to the church of Thyatira.
19:53 It's found in Revelation chapter 2 and verses 18-29.
19:58 And I'm going to read it slowly
20:00 because it has several very important details.
20:04 Remember that Thyatira is the church that exists
20:08 during the period of the Dark Ages...
20:11 during the period of papal supremacy.
20:14 That is the key point that we want to remember.
20:18 Now notice what we find beginning in verse 18.
20:22 "And to the angel of the church in Thyatira write:
20:26 these things says the Son of God
20:29 who has eyes like a flame of fire
20:31 and has feet like fine brass.
20:34 'I know your works:
20:36 love, service, faith, and your patience.
20:40 And as for your works, the last are more than the first.
20:45 Nevertheless I have a few things against you
20:49 because you allow that woman... '
20:52 Now here comes one of the protagonists.
20:55 'You allow that woman Jezebel
20:59 who calls herself a prophetess... '
21:02 Let me ask you: can this be literal Jezebel?
21:05 No, because Jezebel has been dead for 800 years
21:08 at this point, so this cannot be literal Jezebel
21:12 that arises at the time of the church of Thyatira.
21:15 So it says: 'Because you allow that woman Jezebel
21:18 who calls herself a prophetess
21:21 to teach and seduce
21:24 My servants to commit sexual immorality... '
21:28 Other versions translate fornication.
21:31 'and eat things sacrificed to idols. ' "
21:34 In other words, she introduces fornication and idolatry.
21:39 In the Old Testament this is literal.
21:41 People bow before literal images
21:43 and she is committing literal fornication with the king.
21:47 It continues saying here in verse 21:
21:50 Notice: "And I gave her time. "
21:53 The word time here is the Greek word chronos
21:56 where we get chronology from.
21:58 "So I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality
22:02 or of her fornication and she did not repent. "
22:07 Therefore notice what God does
22:08 because she didn't repent after God gave her this time.
22:12 "Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed.
22:16 And those who commit adultery or fornication with her
22:20 into great tribulation unless they repent of their deeds. "
22:25 And then it tells us: "I will kill her children with death. "
22:31 Interesting... all sorts of interesting details
22:34 that we find in this passage.
22:36 "I will kill her children with death
22:39 and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches
22:43 the minds and the hearts and I will give to each
22:47 one of you according to your works. "
22:50 But now notice that in this church
22:52 there's a faithful remnant.
22:54 Verse 24 says:
22:56 "Now to you I say and to the rest... " That word rest
22:59 really is the same word that is translated remnant
23:03 in Revelation 12:17. It's the Greek word loipos.
23:06 In other words it could be translated: "Now to you I say
23:10 and to the remnant in Thyatira. "
23:13 "As many who do not have this doctrine... "
23:16 In other words, as many as are against fornication
23:19 and against idolatry.
23:21 "Who have not known the depths of Satan
23:24 as they say, I will put on you no other burden.
23:28 But hold fast what you have till I come.
23:31 And he who overcomes and keeps My works until the end
23:35 to him I will give power over the nations
23:38 and he shall rule them with a rod of iron.
23:40 They shall be dashed to pieces like a potter's vessel
23:43 as I also have received authority from My Father.
23:46 And I will give him the morning star.
23:49 He who has an ear, let him hear
23:52 what the Spirit says to the churches. "
23:55 And so because we have Jezebel in the church of Thyatira
24:00 that would tell us that we also have to have whom?
24:04 There also has to be the king.
24:07 There also has to be Elijah.
24:13 And there also have to be the false prophets.
24:18 That's right, because when one of the protagonists appears
24:23 all of the other protagonists appear along with that one.
24:27 So we know that in the period of the church of Thyatira
24:31 Jezebel appears with all of the other protagonists
24:35 of the story. Now, in the Old Testament
24:39 Jezebel is a literal pagan priestess
24:43 who links up with a literal king
24:46 and used his executive authority to introduce a mixture
24:51 of God worship and Baal worship in literal Israel.
24:56 She had a group of literal false prophets
24:59 who extended her influence in the literal geographical
25:02 territory of Israel.
25:04 In other words, the story in the Old Testament
25:06 is a story that deals with literal individuals
25:10 in literal Israel.
25:13 However, in the church of Thyatira
25:15 what was literal in the Old Testament now becomes
25:19 symbolic of movements and becomes symbolic of systems...
25:24 of global systems.
25:26 So in the church of Thyatira
25:28 which is right in the middle of the history of the Christian
25:31 church we have a woman - symbolically speaking -
25:36 which represents an apostate church
25:38 that blends paganism with Christianity.
25:42 She links up with the kings of the earth...
25:46 not just with one king
25:48 and she has spiritual children that at some point
25:52 were born to her and she persecutes
25:56 those who disagree with her point of view.
25:59 And so it was literal in the Old Testament
26:03 now becomes symbolic and it becomes global.
26:08 Now let me just summarize some of the details
26:10 of the story from the Old Testament.
26:12 Tomorrow morning we are going to take a look at the story
26:15 as it appears in the Old Testament... which is really
26:18 the root to all of the other Elijah passages
26:21 that we find in scripture.
26:23 Let's just review the main points
26:25 before we draw a parallel between the days of Elijah
26:29 and what happened during the church of Thyatira.
26:32 The harlot Jezebel as we've noticed
26:35 fornicated with the king
26:37 and used his executive authority
26:40 to extend her counterfeit religion
26:43 and to persecute those who were opposed to her agenda.
26:47 That's the first one.
26:48 The second point is that she was involved in the occult
26:52 because in II Kings chapter 9 and verse 22
26:56 it says that she was involved in witchcraft.
27:00 In other words, she was involved in the occult.
27:03 Furthermore, we notice that she blended
27:07 the worship of God with the worship of Baal.
27:10 In other words, it was a mixture of God worship - of genuine
27:14 worship - with counterfeit worship.
27:17 She instituted a false sacrificial system.
27:21 Remember that the altar of the Lord was torn down
27:23 in the days of Elijah?
27:25 Because they had forgotten the gospel.
27:27 That had forgotten that the victim represented
27:30 the sacrifice of Jesus Christ
27:32 and they were offering sacrifices to Baal.
27:34 Furthermore, we know that in the days of Elijah
27:38 she was leading the people to break the commandments of God.
27:41 Because when Elijah met Ahab
27:43 Ahab said: "So you're the one who troubles Israel. "
27:47 And Elijah said: "No, I have not troubled Israel
27:49 but you and your father's house have done it
27:53 because you have forsaken... " What?
27:55 "you have forsaken the commandments of God. "
27:57 The commandments of God were involved.
28:00 Also, false worship was involved
28:02 because we're told clearly in I Kings chapter 16
28:06 and verses 30 through 33
28:08 that Jezebel implemented the false worship of the sun god
28:13 Baal.
28:14 We also know that she had a group of false prophets
28:18 that did her bidding.
28:20 And we know that Elijah was called to unmask
28:23 this counterfeit religion at the risk of his own life.
28:29 Now let me just read you some texts that we find
28:32 in scripture that describe some of these details
28:35 that I've mentioned.
28:37 II Kings chapter 9 and verse 22,
28:39 speaking about Jezebel, gives us some interesting details.
28:44 It says: "Now it happened when Joram saw Jehu
28:47 that he said: 'Is it peace, Jehu? '
28:50 So he answered: 'What peace?
28:52 As long as the harlotries... ' Notice that Jezebel
28:56 was a harlot... 'the harlotries of your mother... '
29:00 Notice she's called the mother.
29:02 'the harlotries of your mother Jezebel
29:04 and her... ' What? 'and her witchcraft are many. ' "
29:08 Do you know which doctrine is at the foundation of witchcraft?
29:11 The immortality of the soul
29:14 is at the root of witchcraft.
29:17 Now let's go to Revelation chapter 2 and verse 20.
29:19 We read this before when we read the entire passage.
29:22 But notice what we're told there about Jezebel.
29:25 It says: "Nevertheless I have a few things against you
29:28 because you allow that woman Jezebel
29:31 who calls herself a prophetess
29:33 to teach and seduce My servants
29:36 to commit sexual immorality... "
29:39 That really is the word to commit fornication...
29:43 "and to eat things sacrificed to idols. "
29:45 In other words, she introduced fornication
29:48 and idolatry.
29:51 Now this is finally fulfilled in the book of Revelation.
29:54 Notice Revelation chapter 17 verses 1 and 2
29:57 and then we'll read also verse 5.
30:00 Revelation 17 verses 1 and 2 and then we'll jump to verse 5.
30:04 It says: "Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls
30:07 came and talked with me saying to me: 'Come,
30:10 I will show you the judgment of the great harlot. '
30:12 Of the what?
30:15 Ah, now we're in the book of Revelation.
30:17 'of the great harlot who sits on many waters. '
30:20 And now notice: 'with whom the kings of the earth
30:24 committed... ' What?
30:25 Ah, so there's the kings of the earth that are involved
30:29 and there's a harlot that is involved.
30:31 Notice what it continues saying:
30:33 'and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the
30:36 wine of her fornication.
30:37 And on her forehead a name was written: MYSTERY,
30:40 BABYLON THE GREAT... ' And then what is she called?
30:43 'THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS
30:46 AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. ' "
30:47 Does she have children?
30:49 She most certainly does.
30:51 In fact, we read in Revelation chapter 2
30:54 that God was going to kill her children.
30:58 So in other words, we have Jezebel
31:01 fornicating with the kings.
31:03 She's called the mother so she has children.
31:07 And I would ask: Do you think that Elijah also
31:10 is involved in this story?
31:12 The period of the church of Thyatira?
31:14 Absolutely.
31:15 Let's examine this.
31:18 Because of the apostasy that was taking place in Israel
31:22 God told Elijah to announce that there would be no rain.
31:28 Notice I Kings chapter 17 and verse 1.
31:32 I Kings chapter 17 and verse 1.
31:35 We're going to go now from the Old Testament
31:38 to the New Testament. We're going to examine
31:40 a parallel between what happened in the days of Elijah
31:43 and what happened during the period
31:45 of the church of Thyatira...
31:46 this period of the Dark Ages.
31:48 Says in I Kings 17 verse 1
31:51 And keep your finger there in I Kings 17
31:54 and also in Revelation because we're going to be
31:56 going back and forth.
31:58 It says: "And Elijah the Tishbite
32:00 of the inhabitants of Gilead said to Ahab:
32:04 'As the Lord God of Israel lives before whom I stand
32:08 there shall be no... ' Notice the expression.
32:12 'no dew or rain these years except at my word. ' "
32:18 No dew and no rain.
32:21 Now let's go to Revelation chapter 11.
32:23 Revelation chapter 11 and verse 6.
32:25 It's speaking about this period of the 1260 years
32:28 in context.
32:30 And it says there in Revelation 11 verse 6
32:32 speaking about the two witnesses:
32:34 "These have power to shut heaven
32:37 so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy. "
32:42 So notice in the days of Elijah
32:44 the heavens are shut: no dew and no rain.
32:47 And we find in the book of Revelation
32:50 that the heavens are shut and there is no dew and no rain.
32:54 And that is during the 1260-year prophecy.
32:57 Now the question is: what was the reason for the scarcity
33:01 of rain? II Chronicles 7:13 and 14
33:04 tells us what the reason was.
33:06 It says there in II Chronicles 7:13-
33:10 God is speaking -
33:11 "When I shut up heaven and there is no rain
33:14 or command the locust to devour the land
33:17 or send pestilence among My people
33:20 if My people who are called by My name
33:23 will humble themselves and pray and seek My face
33:28 and turn from their wicked ways
33:30 then I will hear from heaven
33:33 and will forgive their sin and heal their land. "
33:36 What was the reason that God gave for the land
33:40 having famine? It was because His very own people
33:43 were in apostasy.
33:47 Now remember that in the Old Testament we're dealing with
33:49 literal rain, but in the period of the Christian church -
33:54 this apostate period of the Christian church -
33:56 we're dealing with symbolic rain.
33:59 Now of course, the question is:
34:01 what does rain symbolize
34:04 on a broader scale in relation- ship to the church of Thyatira?
34:09 Well, let's go in our Bibles
34:11 to Deuteronomy chapter 32 and verse 2
34:15 and examine what the rain represents
34:19 symbolically or spiritually.
34:21 Because during the Middle Ages we're dealing with a symbolic
34:24 Elijah. We're dealing with a system.
34:27 Jezebel represents a system.
34:29 Elijah represents a group of people.
34:32 The daughters represent a group of people.
34:34 The king is no longer a literal king...
34:37 the king represents all of the kings
34:40 over which this system rules.
34:42 Notice Deuteronomy chapter 32 and verse 2.
34:45 "Let My teaching... "
34:48 Some versions say "Let My doctrine. "
34:51 "drop as the rain. " So what does rain represent?
34:55 It represents doctrine and God is speaking here.
34:58 "Let My teaching or doctrine drop as rain...
35:01 as the rain, My speech distill as the... " What?
35:06 "the dew. " So what does the rain represent?
35:09 It represents God's teaching.
35:11 It represents God speaking or God's speech.
35:14 "As raindrops on the tender herb and as showers on the grass. "
35:19 This is the reason why in Amos chapter 8 verses 11-12
35:24 we're told what happens when God causes a famine
35:29 in the land when there is no rain.
35:31 Amos 8:11-12 says: "Behold, the days are coming,
35:34 says the Lord, that I will send a famine on the land.
35:40 Not a famine of bread
35:42 nor a thirst for water
35:44 but of hearing the words of the Lord.
35:47 They shall wander from sea to sea and from north to east.
35:50 They shall run to and fro seeking the Word of the Lord
35:54 but they shall not be able to find it. "
35:57 So what does rain represent symbolically during the period
36:00 of the Dark Ages?
36:01 It represents God's teaching; it represents God's Word.
36:06 A famine for God's Word if you please.
36:09 Now how long did this apostasy last when there was no rain
36:14 because of the apostasy of Israel?
36:16 Let's go to the book of James chapter 5 and verse 17
36:20 and examine the historical root first of all.
36:22 Let's examine the Old Testament story.
36:24 We're going back and forth.
36:25 James chapter 5 and verse 17.
36:28 Here we are told:
36:30 "Elijah was a man with a nature like ours
36:33 and he prayed earnestly that it would not rain.
36:37 And it did not rain on the land... " For how long?
36:41 "For 3 years and 6 months. "
36:46 Now is that an interesting... Is that an important figure
36:49 or number?
36:50 Does it have anything to do with the period of papal supremacy?
36:54 Absolutely.
36:56 Let's turn in our Bibles to Revelation 11:3.
36:59 Chapter 11 and verse 3 where it's speaking once again
37:02 about this period of papal supremacy.
37:05 Revelation 11 and verse 3 says, God is speaking:
37:08 "I will give to My two witnesses and they will prophesy... "
37:13 For how long?
37:14 "one thousand two hundred and sixty days
37:18 clothed with sackcloth. "
37:20 How long were the witnesses going to prophesy?
37:23 1260 days. How many years is that?
37:26 How many symbolic years?
37:29 It represents 1260 years.
37:32 Now the Bible refers to it with different terminology
37:36 than 1260. Let's notice Daniel 7:25...
37:40 the parallel prophecy.
37:42 There we have a different way of expressing
37:44 the same time period.
37:46 It says there in Daniel 7:25, a text that probably most of you
37:49 can repeat from memory,
37:51 speaking about the papacy it says: "He shall speak
37:53 pompous words against the Most High,
37:55 shall persecute the saints of the Most High,
37:58 and shall intend to change times and laws.
38:02 Then the saints shall be given into his hand... "
38:05 For how long?
38:06 "for a time and times and half a time. "
38:10 How long is that? How many years is that?
38:12 Three and a half years.
38:13 Are we dealing with literal years or are we dealing with
38:16 symbolic years? It's not literal years.
38:18 It's symbolic years. Jezebel is symbolic.
38:21 Elijah is symbolic. The children are symbolic.
38:24 The king represents something much larger...
38:27 represents the kings of the earth.
38:31 And so the time period in the Old Testament
38:33 is literal - 3-1/2 literal years.
38:36 During the period of papal supremacy it was
38:39 a symbolic period of time.
38:42 Now let me ask you: Did God give Jezebel
38:48 the opportunity to repent in the Old Testament story?
38:51 Yes! God sent Elijah with the purpose
38:54 of admonishing Israel and giving them a message
38:59 so that Jezebel would repent.
39:02 But after 3-1/2 years she was all the more determined
39:06 to destroy God's prophet.
39:08 Now notice Revelation chapter 2 and verse 21.
39:12 In relationship to the church of Thyatira it says there,
39:15 Revelation 2:21, God is speaking:
39:18 "And I gave her... " What?
39:20 "time to repent of her sexual immorality
39:24 or fornication and she did not... " What?
39:28 "repent. " How much time did God give the church
39:31 during the Middle Ages, during the Dark Ages,
39:33 so that she would repent?
39:36 One thousand two hundred and sixty years
39:39 or "time, times, and the dividing of time. "
39:41 It's interesting, the word that is used here
39:44 for time is the Greek word chronos
39:47 where we get the word chronology from.
39:50 God gave her chronological time.
39:52 He gave her a precise period of 1260 years -
39:55 "time, times, and the dividing of time" -
39:57 for her to repent... and she did not.
40:01 Now was there a remnant in the Old Testament story?
40:04 A faithful remnant that did not bow the knee to Baal?
40:07 Absolutely!
40:09 Notice I Kings chapter 19 and verse 18.
40:12 II Kings... or I Kings rather chapter 19 and verse 18.
40:17 Here God is speaking to Elijah because Elijah is saying
40:20 "I'm the only one who is left. "
40:22 And God tells Elijah: "Yet I have reserved
40:26 seven thousand in Israel
40:29 all whose knees have not bowed to Baal
40:32 and every mouth that has not kissed him. "
40:36 So did God have a faithful remnant
40:37 that did not worship Baal
40:40 and that had to hide from the wrath of Jezebel?
40:43 Absolutely.
40:45 Now, was there a faithful remnant in the church of
40:49 Thyatira as well?
40:50 Notice Revelation chapter 2 verses 24 and 25.
40:55 We mentioned this when we read the passage.
40:58 It says in Revelation 2:24:
41:00 "Now to you I say and to the rest in Thyatira... "
41:04 That's not a very good translation: to the rest.
41:06 It's the same word that is used in Revelation 12:17
41:10 where it says that the dragon was angry with the remnant
41:14 of her seed. So a better translation is
41:16 a remnant, that which is left, that which remains.
41:20 And so God is saying to the church of Thyatira
41:22 "Now to you I say and to the remnant in Thyatira
41:26 as many as do not have this doctrine... "
41:29 In other words, those who don't follow what the harlot teaches.
41:32 "and who have not known the depths of Satan
41:34 as they say, I will put on you no other burden.
41:37 But hold fast what you have till I come. "
41:41 God had a remnant during this period
41:44 of "time, times, and the dividing of time. "
41:46 In fact, in Revelation chapter 13 verse 7
41:50 they are called "the saints of the Most High"
41:53 as well as in Daniel chapter 7 and verse 25.
41:56 In Revelation chapter 12 this remnant is referred to...
42:00 referred to as a pure woman...
42:02 a woman who is clothed with the sun.
42:04 In other words, God had a faith- ful remnant during this period
42:08 that played the role of Elijah so to speak.
42:12 Now who was blamed for the calamity that fell upon Israel
42:16 in the Old Testament?
42:18 Elijah was blamed, of course.
42:20 Notice I Kings chapter 18 and verse 10
42:24 and then we'll read also verse 17.
42:26 I Kings chapter 18 verse 10.
42:30 "As the Lord your God lives
42:33 there is no nation or kingdom
42:37 where my master has not sent someone to hunt for you. "
42:42 This is a servant that is telling this to Elijah:
42:44 "You have been hunted everywhere in the kingdom. "
42:47 "And when they said 'he is not here'
42:51 he took an oath from the kingdom or nation
42:53 that they could not find you. " In other words,
42:56 people had to swear an oath that they had not seen Elijah
42:59 because he was hunted everywhere in the kingdom
43:02 because Jezebel wanted to kill him.
43:07 Notice also what we're told in I Kings 18:17.
43:11 "Then it happened that when Ahab saw Elijah
43:14 that Ahab said to him: 'Is that you oh troubler of Israel? ' "
43:18 Who was blamed for the calamities?
43:21 It was Elijah who was blamed.
43:23 Elijah was hated for telling it like it is.
43:27 Now did Elijah have to flee to the wilderness?
43:30 Oh, he sure did have to flee to the wilderness.
43:33 We're told in I Kings chapter 17 and verse 3-
43:36 I Kings 17:3-
43:39 God is speaking to Elijah and He says:
43:41 "Get away from here and turn eastward
43:43 and hide by the brook Cherith
43:47 which flows into the Jordan. "
43:49 So Elijah had to flee to the wilderness
43:51 and he had to hide.
43:53 How about the faithful church
43:54 during the "time, times, and dividing of time? "
43:57 Did they have to flee?
43:58 Notice Revelation chapter 12 and verse 6 and also verse 14.
44:04 Revelation 12 verse 6 and then we'll read verse 14.
44:07 "Then the woman fled... " Into where?
44:11 "into the wilderness
44:12 where she has a place prepared by God
44:15 that they should feed her there 1260 days. "
44:18 And then verse 14: "But the woman was given
44:21 two wings of a great eagle that she might fly into the
44:24 wilderness to her place where she is nourished
44:26 for time and times and a half time
44:29 from the presence of the serpent. "
44:33 And so you have God's church
44:37 during the Old Testament period fleeing -
44:40 in the person of Elijah -
44:42 and hiding from the wrath of Jezebel.
44:44 And so you have also during this period of "time,
44:48 times, and dividing of time"
44:49 God's faithful church - the woman - fleeing
44:53 to the wilderness.
44:55 Now notice also that when Elijah went to hide
45:00 who fed him?
45:03 God fed him.
45:05 God not only prepared a place for him in the wilderness
45:07 but God also fed him.
45:09 Notice I Kings chapter 17 and verse 4
45:12 and then we'll also read verse 6.
45:14 I Kings 17:4 says: "And I will be... "
45:19 "And it will be that you shall drink from the brook
45:23 and I have commanded the ravens to feed you there. "
45:27 Who was it that fed Elijah?
45:30 God through the ravens.
45:32 Verse 6: "The ravens brought him bread and meat
45:35 in the morning and bread and meat in the evening
45:38 and he drank from the brook. "
45:41 Now how about in Revelation? Who fed God's faithful church
45:45 that fled to the wilderness?
45:46 We already read it... let's read it again.
45:48 Revelation chapter 12 verse 6 and also verse 14.
45:53 "Then the woman fled into the wilderness
45:55 where she has a place prepared by God... "
45:58 See? Just like with Elijah.
46:00 "that they should... " Notice: that they should what?
46:03 "feed her there 1260 days. "
46:08 And then verse 14:
46:09 "But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle
46:12 that she might fly into the wilderness
46:15 to her place where she is nourished
46:19 for a time and times and half a time
46:22 from the presence of the serpent. "
46:24 Are you seeing the parallels between the days of Elijah
46:27 and the period of the church during the Dark Ages?
46:31 If we know what happened in the days of Elijah,
46:33 we can know what happened during this period
46:35 of church history.
46:37 Now... was Jezebel a murderess?
46:43 Was she a bloodthirsty tyrant
46:45 who used the king to accomplish her purposes?
46:48 Absolutely! And the king was a wimp.
46:51 Listen up, folks. In all of the Elijah story
46:55 that we're going to study there's a wimpish king;
46:58 there's a strong-willed harlot.
47:01 The harlot has false prophets or daughters.
47:04 And Elijah rebukes this triple union
47:08 and as a result the triple union hates God's prophet
47:12 and seeks him out to attempt to destroy him.
47:15 Notice I Kings chapter 18 and verse 4
47:18 where we are told about Jezebel.
47:20 It says: "For so it was while Jezebel massacred the
47:23 prophets of the Lord that Obadiah had taken 100 prophets
47:27 and hidden them 50 to a cave
47:30 and had fed them with bread and water. "
47:32 Once again they're hiding in a cave
47:34 and God is feeding them as they hide there
47:37 because Jezebel is killing and destroying
47:41 the prophet of the Lord.
47:42 In fact, Jezebel was so angry with Elijah
47:45 that after the prophets of Baal were defeated on Mt. Carmel
47:49 in I Kings chapter 19 verses 1 and 2 it say:
47:52 "Then Jezebel send a messenger to Elijah saying:
47:55 'So let the gods do to me and more also if I do not
48:00 make your life as the life of one of them
48:02 by tomorrow about this time. '
48:05 And when he saw that he arose and ran for his life
48:08 and went to Beersheba which belongs to Judah
48:11 and left his servant there. "
48:13 Does the harlot in the book of Revelation
48:16 also shed the blood of God's people?
48:19 Notice Revelation chapter 17 and verse 6.
48:23 Revelation chapter 17 and verse 6.
48:25 It says: "I saw the woman drunk with the blood
48:28 of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus.
48:31 And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement. "
48:37 Now did Jezebel extend her religion by herself
48:43 or did she have some emissaries who helped to extend it?
48:48 Actually, it was through a counterfeit priesthood.
48:52 It was through false prophets that she was able to extend
48:57 her influence and her power and her religion.
49:00 In fact, we know that she was the one who fed
49:03 the false prophets...
49:05 and you don't bite the hand that feeds you by the way.
49:07 In I Kings chapter 18 and verse 19 we are told
49:11 "Now therefore send and gather all Israel to me on Mt. Carmel,
49:15 the 450 prophets of Baal,
49:18 and the 400 prophets of Asherah who eat... " Where?
49:22 "who eat at Jezebel's table. "
49:25 So you have a group of false prophets that do the bidding
49:30 of Jezebel. Now let me ask you:
49:33 in the book of Revelation do you have a power,
49:36 a false prophet, that does the bidding of the beast?
49:39 We'll study this in our last study together.
49:42 Yes! We have a beast that rises from the earth.
49:46 It has two horns like a lamb and it does everything
49:49 to please the first beast.
49:52 It raises and image to the first beast.
49:54 It commands everyone to worship the first beast.
49:56 It imposes the mark of the first beast.
49:58 It commands everyone to follow the first beast.
50:01 In other words, there is a false prophet
50:03 in the book of Revelation that extends the religion
50:07 of the beast. But you know, in Revelation 13
50:10 the relationship is described as the beast and the false prophet.
50:14 But in Revelation chapter 17 it describes this relationship
50:19 as the mother and her daughters.
50:21 Now as we study this this is going to become clearer
50:25 and clearer that really the beast using the false prophet
50:28 to accomplish its purposes
50:30 is the same as in Revelation 17: the harlot using
50:34 her daughters to accomplish her purposes.
50:38 Now, did this harlot receive a deadly wound
50:43 during the 1260 years?
50:45 Was she thrown on a sickbed?
50:47 Yes! In fact, let's read it.
50:49 Revelation chapter 2 and verse 22.
50:52 "Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed
50:54 and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation
50:59 unless they repent of their deeds. "
51:01 Now, the lexicon or dictionary Arndt and Gingrich
51:06 page 436 describes this word sickbed as "to lay someone
51:11 on a sickbed, to strike her with an illness,
51:15 a lingering illness, as a divine punishment. "
51:20 Now was this system thrown into a sickbed
51:24 at the end of it's period of dominion?
51:26 Yes! Was she thrown into great tribulation?
51:29 Yes. I believe that this is describing
51:32 actually the French Revolution.
51:34 At the end of her period of dominion everything was thrown
51:38 upside down. The royalty as well as the papacy
51:43 were sought to be destroyed by the people in France.
51:48 In other words, this is exactly what happened
51:51 according to the prophecy.
51:53 Now does the harlot have children?
51:55 She most certainly does.
51:57 It says in Revelation 2 verse 23:
52:00 "I will kill her children with death
52:04 and all the churches shall know that I am He
52:06 who searches the minds and hearts
52:08 and I will give to each one according to your works. "
52:12 Interesting that Jezebel the harlot had children.
52:17 During the 1260 years she also had children.
52:20 In Revelation chapter 17 she is called
52:23 "THE HARLOT WHO IS THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS. "
52:27 Now the question is: which children were born
52:30 from the Roman Catholic papacy?
52:34 Can you tell me?
52:38 The Protestant churches
52:41 that believe that the dead are not dead.
52:43 That Sunday is the day we're supposed to keep.
52:46 That Sunday is the day of worship, et cetera.
52:48 Let me read you the words of John XXIII
52:51 at the beginning of the Ecumenical Vatican 2 Council
52:54 as he addressed Protestants who were there observing.
52:57 He said: The Roman Catholic church
53:02 wishes to be an affectionate, kind and patient mother.
53:06 She is moved by compassion and goodness
53:10 towards her alienated children. "
53:13 That's what Pope John XXIII said.
53:16 Pope Paul VI said,
53:18 speaking to the Protestants at the Council,
53:20 "Because of their position separated brethren
53:23 are the object of deep and tender affection
53:26 on the part of the mother church. "
53:29 On the part of the MOTHER church.
53:30 "It is a love that feels grief and sadness,
53:33 the loveable heart wounded by estrangement,
53:36 because the estrangement prevents brethren
53:39 from enjoying so many privileges and rights
53:41 and makes them lose so much grace.
53:43 But perhaps for this very reason, its love is all
53:47 the deeper and more burning. "
53:50 Those were the words of Pope Paul VI.
53:54 So we have a parallel between what occurred in the days
53:57 of Elijah - literal individuals in literal Israel -
54:03 and what happened symbolically to the church during
54:07 the symbolic period of "time, times, and the
54:10 dividing of time. "
54:12 But folks, this is not the conclusion of the story.
54:16 The Middle Ages Elijah was not the last Elijah.
54:20 The conclusion of the story has not been written.
54:23 Jezebel did not come to an end at the end of the 1260 years.
54:26 The daughters did not come to an end.
54:28 The great and terrible day of the Lord did not come.
54:31 Elijah was not translated to heaven.
54:35 The final chapter of this story still has to be fulfilled
54:39 when the deadly wound of the harlot Jezebel is healed.
54:43 And God promises that He is going to send Elijah
54:47 once more. Not a person but a world-wide movement
54:52 to perform the same work that Elijah did in the Old Testament
54:56 and the Elijah in the wilderness did during the 1260 years.
55:00 In Malachi chapter 4 verses 5 and 6
55:03 we find the prophecy: "Behold I will send you Elijah
55:06 the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day
55:10 of the Lord. And he shall turns the hearts of the fathers
55:13 to the children and the hearts of the children
55:15 to their fathers lest I come and smite the earth
55:18 with a curse. "
55:20 You see, the harlot Jezebel has two stages of existence.
55:25 She ruled for 1260 years.
55:28 And the story of Elijah took place symbolically
55:32 during that period. At the end of that period
55:34 she received a deadly wound.
55:36 But prophecy tells us that her deadly wound
55:38 is going to be... what?
55:40 Is going to be healed, so Jezebel will live again.
55:43 So if Jezebel is going to live again,
55:46 would we expect the kings of the earth to fornicate with
55:49 Jezebel when she rises to power?
55:51 Yes. Would we expect her children to join with her
55:55 in imposing a counterfeit religion?
55:58 Would we expect God to raise up an Elijah
56:01 to proclaim that God's law is binding?
56:04 That we should worship God, the Creator, on His holy Sabbath?
56:07 A movement that will reach the world
56:12 with the message of God for these last days?
56:15 Absolutely! You see, the end-time Elijah represents
56:19 God's remnant church.
56:20 It's not one individual.
56:22 It is a remnant of people on a world-wide scale
56:27 that will proclaim God's message to the world
56:31 with power and great glory
56:33 as we are told in Revelation chapter 18
56:36 and verses 1 through 4.
56:38 And so the only thing that remains to be seen
56:41 is for the harlot to recover from her deadly wound,
56:44 and then we will see a repetition of what happened
56:48 during the 1260 years
56:50 during the "time, times, and dividing of time. "
56:54 You know, the message to Thyatira ends
56:57 by saying: "He who has an ear let him hear
57:01 what the Spirit says to the churches. "
57:04 You know, we are that end-time church
57:07 that God has called for a time such as this.
57:11 The question is: will we - God's remnant people -
57:16 answer that call that God has made?
57:21 I pray to God that we will.
57:24 Let's pray. Father,
57:27 we thank you for Bible prophecy.
57:29 We thank you for history because as we observe history
57:35 we know exactly what's going to happen in the future.


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