Hello friends and welcome to
Fall Camp Meeting here at 3ABN
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in Thompsonville, Illinois, also
in West Frankfort, Illinois.
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We're thanking you
for tuning in so early.
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It is early in the
morning but the Spirit of God
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is flowing and
ready to bless your life.
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For the next hour you are
going to be blessed by our
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presenter. I'll tell you who
she's going to be in a moment.
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But thank you for your
prayers and all that you do
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for the continued advancement
of the gospel of Christ.
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We'd also like to invite
you to come down if you're in
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driving distance. Come to
Thompsonville/West Frankfort
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where we can enjoy the Camp
Meeting that's started already
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and is going to go
through Saturday evening.
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Our presenter
today is Cherie Peters.
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She is the... I would say...
the founder of the ministry
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Celebrating Life and Recovery.
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And today her message is
Celebrating Life for Jesus.
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She's talking about forgiveness,
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the topic that every one of
us can learning something about.
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And so stay tuned
for the next hour.
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God does have a blessing
in store for every one of us.
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If you're watching or listening,
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keep the channel
right where it is
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because God is going to
speak to your heart today.
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Before we do anything,
though, we always like to invite
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the presence of
the Lord to be here.
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So bow your heads with
me as we go before the Lord
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in prayer. Our
gracious Father in heaven,
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each one of us has
received forgiveness
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and strength as
we have followed You.
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Today, Lord, we pray
that You will anoint our ears
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to listen, our
hearts to receive.
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We pray a blessing, Lord, today
on the speaker of the hour:
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Cherie Peters.
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And we ask that You
will strengthen her words,
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You will use her as
a conduit of blessing.
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And in the process also,
Lord, You will bless her.
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So we give this
message to You and this time.
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In Jesus' name I pray, Amen.
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You know this song is a
song that kind of fits along
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the theme of forgiveness.
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In 2005-2006 when I was going
through a particularly difficult
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time in my life, the Lord
gave me this song which says:
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"When we wake up sometimes
our nights are so difficult
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that we welcome the morning. "
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And the simple theme
of this song is: "Lord,
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wherever You find us
whatever You want to do
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Lord lead me home. "
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I welcome the sunrise
as night turns to day.
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Should I try again
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or turn and walk away?
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The journey to this
falling seems so very hard
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yet I'm standing, praying,
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right here in my yard.
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The tears that I shed
don't seem like it's worth it
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yet I know You're on Your way.
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Lord, lead me home.
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There's no place
to run and hide...
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You know what I keep inside.
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Lord, lead me home.
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I need to find a place to rest
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where life in You is best.
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Lead me home.
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I know I can trust You...
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You never let me down.
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I know that I need You...
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You keep me off the ground.
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Through disappointments You say
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"It's OK. My
child I really love you,
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there'll be a brighter day. "
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So I made up my
mind to keep on walkin'
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yes, pressing on
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the higher way.
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Lord, lead me home.
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For there's no
place to run and hide...
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You know what I keep inside.
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Lord, lead me home.
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I need to find a place to rest
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where life in You is best.
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Lead me home.
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I'm going to trust You ever more
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each day.
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And I'm climbing higher
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as I pray.
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Lord, lead me home.
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There's no place
to run and hide...
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You know what I keep inside.
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Lord, lead me home.
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For I need to
find a place to rest
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where life in You is best.
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Lead me home.
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I need to find a place to rest
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where life in You is best.
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Lead me home.
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Lord, lead me home.
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Amen.
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Good morning. Good morning.
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You know to me I think
that was a perfect song.
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We're going to
talk about forgiveness,
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but before we get to forgiveness
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I just have to say
that I have never felt
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at home until I
joined 3ABN and you guys.
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You know, I just felt like I
was welcomed into the family.
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I have been loved ever since.
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So before we talk about what
we need to forgive in our lives
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I want to remind you to
make sure you thank the people
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that have blessed you,
and you guys have blessed me.
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I don't know if I
would have survived
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all of the stuff
that I had to come through
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had I not been
loved by this family.
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Does anybody
understand what I'm saying?
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You know, there are people in
your life that really really do
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love you and they are powerful.
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So we're going to
talk about forgiveness.
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I want to show you a
couple things that I learned
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about forgiveness.
I have in my family
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I... for some of
you you know my history.
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In my family I was born to
14- and 16-year-old addicts.
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My mom tried to
self-abort a number of times.
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And when I was born through
all of that kind of stuff
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in her mind she was so young
that all she could think about
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is I ruined her life.
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"If it wasn't for you, my
life would have been fine.
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I would have finished school.
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I would have
had a regular thing.
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My goals would have been
met. " All that kind of stuff.
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But my mom had five
kids before she was 21.
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She continuously had kids.
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My dad was an
alcoholic. Even in high school
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he drank too much. By
the time I came around
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he was inappropriate
in every kind of way.
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Interfered with me physically
and all that kind of stuff.
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And so when I was
little I remember just kind of
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getting into a place where
survival was the only thing
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I could think of, you know?
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And I did that well. I
ended up homeless by 12.
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Thirteen years old
after a pregnancy of my own,
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after starting drugs on my own,
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I was on the streets of
Los Angeles for ten years.
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And then I met God.
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You know, how crazy is that?
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You know what? When I
say that... that I met God...
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I met God and I'm in a drug
house trying to kill myself.
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"I am done; I
don't want to be here.
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I don't like it
here... I don't like you guys.
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I don't like... " You
know, nobody was safe.
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When you're on the streets
as a kid, can you imagine
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who picks you up?
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Do you know what I
mean? Nobody was safe.
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The things that I saw...
And I've said this before,
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I told someone I
wish that I was like
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the homeless people you see
in the movies where they have
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a shopping cart and they
live under cardboard boxes
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because they looked like
they were safer than what I was.
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I was picked up and
used and moved around
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and all that kind of stuff.
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I saw the worst of
the worst addictions.
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So when I finally wanted
to kill myself I am done.
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I don't want to
take the next breath.
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If could have stopped
myself from breathing,
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I would have stopped.
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So I'm in the drug
house trying to kill myself.
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I meet God and I am weeping
'cause somehow I know it's God.
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Has anybody met God
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where just
somehow you know it's Him?
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Nobody shared it with you; no-
body told you what God is like.
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But I feel like God showed
up and I feel loved and safe
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for the first time in my life.
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And I just start crying
because I am a heroin addict
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by this time. I
have teeth missing.
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I don't know how to read hardly.
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I'm a mess and I'm sitting
there trying to kill myself.
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And so what are
you going to do now?
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I mean, "Why show up
now? " is what I was thinking.
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And so I get this
sense that He loves me
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and I just stop. "Look at me.
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Look at me. You know,
how can You love me? "
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And He said: "I love
you. You are My beloved. "
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And I just wept. And
then He showed me a picture
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of who I am in His eyes.
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Right?
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And you know, I believe...
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And I can't say I fully
saw the picture. I didn't,
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but I felt like
I saw everything.
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And you know
what I believe He did?
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Showed me a picture
the day after resurrection.
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Anybody hear what I'm saying?
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The day after when
all of this junk is gone.
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All of our diseases
are gone. Agings are gone.
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All our molest and
anger and bitterness,
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all of our hatred, all of
our damage, all of our hurt.
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All of our addictions
are gone the day after
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and we are created
in the image of God
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exactly like they
were supposed to be:
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just healthy and innocent.
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I cried so hard because
I thought I've never been
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innocent... not
one day in my life.
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My dad started molesting
me when I was 3 months old.
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I don't know what it
feels like to be innocent
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but in that place I
was innocent and loved.
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And I cried. I
thought: "You know what?
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I've never been that. "
And you know what God said?
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Not an audible
voice but He said clearly
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"I've never seen
you any other way. "
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Somebody's got to
hear me on that one.
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"I've never seen
you any other way.
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You are My child
and I KNOW this is you.
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You don't. You've been
lied to, you've been hurt
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and I'm going to try to
re-establish this in your life
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so that on the other
side of this you will know
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that you are a man of God
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and you have the right to
stand here and you are created
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in My image and I adore you. "
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And I'm just
like... I would do anything.
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And you've got to
imagine this: 100 pounds,
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struggling on heroin. I
got beat up by some bikers
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and I had a tooth knocked
out and all that kind of stuff.
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I'm living in a drug house.
I don't have any skills at all.
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I've been on the streets for
10 years... and I believed Him!
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I believed Him. I
thought: "If that's who I am
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I will do whatever You ask
to get there... just tell me. "
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And man, I had no idea
how hard this was going to be.
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When you say to God:
"Just tell me... " Whoa-ho!
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So we're going to go on
and we're going to look at this
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journey on forgiveness
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'cause that's what He
stayed with me a lot on.
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And the first thing He
wanted me to know is the level
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of forgiveness that
He has towards me. Right?
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And this is going to be a review
for a lot of you guys, right?
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And so we're going to go there.
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So I'm going to ask somebody
to put one of the slides on...
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the next slide on.
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So the level of
forgiveness that God has for us.
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And one of the clearest
ways to understand forgiveness
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is to look at
how He forgives us.
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I'm just going to read this.
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God chooses to
forgive us, right?
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So He chooses to forgive
us. Our sins stand in the way
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of our relationship with
God and without His forgiveness
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we would be eternally condemned.
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But God verbally shares
His desire to forgive us.
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"I will forgive their iniquity
and their sin I will remember
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no more. "
Right? How cool is that?
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'Cause you know
what? In my family
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my grandmother is an addict.
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My uncles are addicts.
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My cousins are addicts.
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My sister is a meth
addict that she looks psychotic
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and she looks like a
concentration camp victim
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with her... how thin she is.
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My dad died in a crack
house molesting young kids.
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He never came out of that.
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My mom is incredible
but she hides behind books
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and prescription drugs.
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My other sister has had a
porn site on the Internet,
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is a dancer, and
sells coke for a living.
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And I come out of
that and I'm asking God
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"Can You forgive
me? " Can He? Yes. Yes!
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Why does He do
that? I don't know!
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I didn't deserve one
thing... one thing...
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yet I felt like He lavished
me with forgiveness and love.
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I want you to feel
safe. I want you to get that.
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The next one I want to
talk to you about is God chooses
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to focus on - and this is HUGE -
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God chooses to focus on
His desire to forgive us
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rather than on our sins. Amen!
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How... That is incredible!
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He delights in forgiving us
so He's going to focus on that.
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He's not going to look
out... I used to believe that...
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that every time I did
something wrong God checked off
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this is wrong, this is wrong,
this is wrong, this is wrong.
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And I thought:
"By the end of the day
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I'm overwhelmed. " Not
by the end of the year!
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By the end of the
day I'm overwhelmed.
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And God just stopped me one time
and I don't know how He gives
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these concepts so clearly,
but the concept He gave me is:
00:15:49.57\00:15:52.75
"Cherie, I don't have enough
pencils in heaven to do that! "
00:15:52.88\00:15:55.62
Amen! "I can't do that!
00:15:55.82\00:15:57.66
If I checked every time someone
did wrong on this planet,
00:15:57.86\00:16:01.86
we would run out of people
to check with - angels to check
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with - and pencils.
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The only thing we look for
00:16:07.40\00:16:09.28
is whenever you fully
understand My love for you
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then we check it.
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I think they got it.
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I think for a minute...
for a minute... she actually
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felt loved. She
actually saw My heart. "
00:16:20.96\00:16:23.92
And all of heaven
waits for that moment.
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They know that we're dust.
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They know that
we're made out of sin.
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They know that we're living
in this great controversy.
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They know this is difficult...
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especially since Christ came
down here and walked it Himself.
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So what they're
checking for is when we get it.
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When we can actually by
faith step into the fact
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that God loves us
with a love that's so huge
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that we could actually change
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our desires, our selves,
what we want to do in life.
00:16:49.34\00:16:53.25
All that kind of stuff changes
because we feel and experience
00:16:53.35\00:16:56.95
the love of God.
That's what they wait for.
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God chooses to focus on
His desire to forgive us
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rather than
focus on our failures.
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"I, even I, " God says,
"am the One who wipes away
00:17:03.80\00:17:07.98
your transgressions
for My own sake. "
00:17:08.08\00:17:10.27
"For My own sake. " I love that!
00:17:10.47\00:17:15.34
Nobody's ever done something
that cool to me for their own
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sake. Not even my
parents. They were just a mess.
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But God says: "For My own sake
I'm going to do that for you. "
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"As far as the east is from
the west, so far has He removed
00:17:26.10\00:17:29.53
our transgressions from us. "
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And so we know that, right?
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I mean, everybody is kind
of... we've looked at that.
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On the next slide it says:
"God also chooses to love us
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in spite of our failures. "
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Anybody want to say
"Amen" to that? Amen!
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In spite of our failures.
He provides redemption for us
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through His Son when we have
a bitter attitude towards Him.
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I can be in the
midst... I have heard
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some druggies... And
druggies are just weird.
00:18:00.76\00:18:02.94
And I know them. I
know a lot of druggies
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and prostitutes and
all that kind of stuff
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'cause that's the
streets that I came from.
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So I've heard some look
at normal people and say
00:18:10.98\00:18:13.91
"Look how lame they are. "
00:18:14.02\00:18:15.52
Are you kidding me?
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You don't have a
house to go back to.
00:18:17.81\00:18:20.17
You have track marks
all up and down your arm.
00:18:20.47\00:18:24.16
You just ripped off your
grandmother's bank account
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and you're looking at this
normal couple laughing together
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holding hands like:
"Look how lame that is. "
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You know? And that's
how we do to God sometimes.
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You know what I mean?
00:18:36.75\00:18:38.12
The God of heaven tries
to love us through some stuff
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and we're just like:
"You know, I don't need God.
00:18:41.31\00:18:43.41
That's just stupid. I
don't need a crutch. "
00:18:43.61\00:18:46.27
And could you
imagine God just saying
00:18:46.57\00:18:49.23
"You SO need a crutch! "
00:18:49.43\00:18:51.04
You know what I mean?
"You need a crutch, body cast,
00:18:51.07\00:18:53.65
and all that kind of
stuff 'cause you're a mess. "
00:18:53.85\00:18:56.03
But you know, we
do that with God.
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And God says: "In
spite of that I love you. "
00:18:58.09\00:19:01.62
"In spite of that, I am
going to step into your life
00:19:01.85\00:19:06.12
and continuously step in
front of you until you see Me...
00:19:06.32\00:19:09.76
until you know that
My intentions toward you
00:19:10.06\00:19:13.67
are good... are good. "
00:19:13.77\00:19:15.68
I want to look at forgiveness
in a different way now
00:19:15.88\00:19:20.12
because this is
what got me the most.
00:19:20.32\00:19:23.08
God says... "Do
you understand that?
00:19:23.28\00:19:25.25
That that's how
much I forgive you? "
00:19:25.39\00:19:27.53
And I'm like: "OK, I
get it. That's incredible! "
00:19:27.73\00:19:31.24
And not only that...
00:19:31.44\00:19:33.06
One of my first
speaking engagements I'm at
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So. Cal. Camp Meeting, right?
00:19:37.43\00:19:39.45
And I'm scared to death. I'm
new and I'm going to So. Cal.
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And there's a few
thousand people there.
00:19:44.51\00:19:46.49
And Mark Finley
is the other speaker.
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How ridiculous is that?
I'm going to follow him.
00:19:49.02\00:19:51.26
You know? And I'm
thinking: "I'd better look good.
00:19:52.51\00:19:55.99
I'd better get a
cute outfit, you know. "
00:19:56.09\00:19:57.79
So I got this outfit
and I'm still scared.
00:19:57.93\00:20:02.23
I look cute as anything.
It matches my eyes even!
00:20:02.43\00:20:05.02
But I'm just scared and
I'm thinking: "God, who am I
00:20:05.22\00:20:07.80
to follow anybody? " And so
all of a sudden it's my turn
00:20:08.00\00:20:10.68
and I'm scared. And I
walk up and all of a sudden
00:20:10.88\00:20:14.49
the Holy Spirit just
comes and you don't think about
00:20:14.70\00:20:16.37
being scared any more.
00:20:16.47\00:20:17.84
So I'm just saying what I
felt like God asked me to say.
00:20:17.87\00:20:20.89
And I get down and
this little gay guy comes up
00:20:21.09\00:20:23.74
and he says: "Come
here for a minute. "
00:20:23.84\00:20:25.34
And I'm thinking: "What? "
00:20:25.65\00:20:27.61
"No, no, come
here for a minute. "
00:20:27.71\00:20:29.08
And I walked over
and I said: "What? "
00:20:29.25\00:20:31.59
And he said: "Do you realize
00:20:31.79\00:20:33.18
that your outfit is
totally see through? "
00:20:33.28\00:20:35.67
"No I did not! "
00:20:37.81\00:20:39.18
I so did not,
'cause I got out there...
00:20:39.37\00:20:41.76
So I'm like na,
na-na-na, na-na-na, na-na
00:20:41.96\00:20:43.78
and I'm doing all this kind
of stuff and not feeling nervous
00:20:43.88\00:20:47.29
but I didn't
realize it was see-through.
00:20:47.49\00:20:48.86
I knew that God got me that
outfit 'cause I got it on sale!
00:20:49.02\00:20:51.59
And I said: "God, You could
have told me I needed a slip.
00:20:51.89\00:20:54.34
You just could
have told me that. "
00:20:54.54\00:20:55.91
I'm now mad at God.
00:20:56.03\00:20:57.40
So I called the
Women's' Ministries leader
00:20:57.50\00:21:00.50
and I said to her: "Excuse me
but I have to go up in a minute.
00:21:00.60\00:21:04.37
Can you get me a slip? "
And she's like: "Absolutely!
00:21:04.57\00:21:06.93
You so need a slip. "
00:21:07.33\00:21:09.29
And so she's running around
trying to find a slip now.
00:21:09.49\00:21:12.27
And I go in my room and
I'm praying, but the prayer
00:21:12.30\00:21:15.02
is like this: "God, You
knew that it was see-through.
00:21:15.12\00:21:17.83
You could have
told me na-na-na-na. "
00:21:18.03\00:21:19.70
And all I heard is: "Aren't
you glad that the robe of
00:21:19.90\00:21:22.89
righteousness is
not see-through? " Amen.
00:21:23.03\00:21:25.79
And I got it!
00:21:25.99\00:21:27.55
Not only does He
forgive us but Christ Himself
00:21:27.75\00:21:30.86
died to cover us with
the robe of righteousness.
00:21:31.06\00:21:34.26
Cover us! When God looks at me
00:21:34.46\00:21:36.68
even through this
whole sanctification process
00:21:36.78\00:21:38.90
where I'm trying to
figure out how not to lie
00:21:39.10\00:21:40.92
and manipulate and do all
the stuff I learned so well.
00:21:41.02\00:21:45.06
On the streets if you lie well
and you could play someone well
00:21:45.20\00:21:48.23
somebody's going
to high-five you.
00:21:48.43\00:21:50.03
"Wow that was good. You got like
$1000 bucks from that guy. "
00:21:50.23\00:21:53.10
You know what I mean? And
now they say: "Oh don't lie
00:21:53.40\00:21:56.39
and don't steal. "
But if you have $1000
00:21:56.59\00:21:59.11
our ministry needs it, you know.
00:21:59.21\00:22:00.93
No I'm kidding.
00:22:01.78\00:22:03.15
So anyway we end up...
00:22:03.29\00:22:05.64
Well you know you have to
learn all this kind of stuff
00:22:05.85\00:22:07.51
but in the meantime God says
"I will totally put the robe
00:22:07.71\00:22:11.19
of righteousness around
you. I will totally cover you.
00:22:11.29\00:22:13.88
You will never have to worry
about standing in your own skin
00:22:14.08\00:22:18.67
in your filthy rags any more.
00:22:18.77\00:22:20.89
And I will invite
you in front of My Father
00:22:21.09\00:22:23.28
in the Holy of
Holies. And you have the right
00:22:23.38\00:22:24.90
to walk in the door
because you are My child. "
00:22:25.01\00:22:27.67
Wow!
00:22:28.96\00:22:30.92
I just have to
say "wow" to that!
00:22:31.23\00:22:32.88
You know if somebody
says "Is that a big deal? "
00:22:33.18\00:22:35.95
you know what? For
somebody on the streets
00:22:36.15\00:22:37.88
it's not only a big
deal but I cannot shut up.
00:22:38.08\00:22:40.52
I can't stop saying
"How cool is that! "
00:22:40.72\00:22:43.63
So anyhow I go back to the thing
that God is trying to teach me.
00:22:43.83\00:22:46.98
So then He said... and I
couldn't believe He said this.
00:22:47.08\00:22:49.96
Now He says: "I
want you to forgive them
00:22:50.16\00:22:52.48
as much as I forgave you. "
00:22:52.58\00:22:54.38
"Oh shut up... there's no way!
00:22:54.58\00:22:57.66
No! No, no, no! That's not fair.
00:22:57.86\00:23:02.45
God, You don't understand.
00:23:02.75\00:23:05.55
You don't understand
what it's like to be molested
00:23:05.85\00:23:08.71
since you're a baby.
00:23:08.81\00:23:10.18
I don't know what it's
like to be loved by anybody.
00:23:10.26\00:23:13.09
You know, You don't understand:
You are the only place
00:23:13.29\00:23:16.17
that I feel safe.
00:23:16.37\00:23:17.74
Right? I mean,
how crazy is that?
00:23:17.88\00:23:20.00
If they come up and
say 'please forgive me, '
00:23:20.31\00:23:23.60
I'll say 'yes. ' "
00:23:23.80\00:23:25.17
And He said: "No, no,
no... that's not what I'm
00:23:25.45\00:23:27.00
asking you. I'm
asking you to forgive them
00:23:27.10\00:23:30.22
at the same level I
forgave you. " Amen.
00:23:30.43\00:23:35.44
I just turned my worship
music up as loud as I can
00:23:35.62\00:23:38.30
so I didn't have to
listen to that silliness.
00:23:38.50\00:23:40.54
I'm just like: "How
can I listen to that? "
00:23:41.87\00:23:44.25
So it takes me so long to
get it and I finally get it.
00:23:44.45\00:23:47.82
And I hope... God -
through the death of Christ -
00:23:48.12\00:23:53.06
forgives us, right?
00:23:53.26\00:23:54.63
So here's God.
Here's the death of Christ.
00:23:54.68\00:23:58.30
And here's me...
free on the other side.
00:23:59.39\00:24:01.84
Not only free, but
totally without my stuff.
00:24:02.04\00:24:06.40
I can walk away from every
lie that's ever been told me.
00:24:06.60\00:24:10.31
"I'm worthless. "
"I'm the problem. "
00:24:10.52\00:24:12.53
"I'm not loveable. "
"I'm somehow defective. "
00:24:12.73\00:24:14.68
All of that kind of stuff.
00:24:14.88\00:24:16.25
"No one will
ever really like you
00:24:16.33\00:24:18.35
if they knew who you
were. " All of those lies
00:24:18.39\00:24:20.18
that have been
told to me all my life.
00:24:20.39\00:24:22.23
"You ruined my life. Your
mother doesn't even love you. "
00:24:22.43\00:24:25.46
"Your dad's a molester. "
I mean, all of those things.
00:24:25.66\00:24:27.90
I can walk away
because of the death of Christ.
00:24:28.01\00:24:30.59
It's just incredible!
00:24:30.89\00:24:32.42
So now He says: "I
want you to be right here
00:24:32.62\00:24:35.08
In the forgiveness thing for
you I want you to be right here
00:24:35.28\00:24:37.96
and the person that
damaged you is right here.
00:24:38.47\00:24:44.43
And I want you to
choose to be behind them
00:24:44.66\00:24:48.49
on your own
cross and die yourself
00:24:48.69\00:24:51.38
and set them free. "
00:24:51.68\00:24:53.74
Amen.
00:24:54.04\00:24:55.41
I didn't say "Amen. "
00:24:55.50\00:24:57.31
I said: "That's not fair! "
00:24:58.40\00:25:00.45
You know, when He
says "carry your cross"
00:25:00.65\00:25:02.38
what does that mean?
00:25:02.48\00:25:03.98
"I don't want them free.
00:25:04.18\00:25:06.13
Can we just have
them suffer a bit first?
00:25:06.33\00:25:10.58
You know, can we
just do a little bit?
00:25:10.78\00:25:13.47
You know, remove a leg
or something? I don't know
00:25:13.67\00:25:17.26
what You would do? "
00:25:17.36\00:25:19.34
I'm not sure and so I'm thinking
00:25:19.54\00:25:22.72
so now that's the
reality of our human condition.
00:25:22.92\00:25:26.01
I really can't and don't want to
00:25:26.31\00:25:29.55
let them off the hook.
00:25:29.75\00:25:31.80
And God says to the
extent that I can't do that
00:25:32.00\00:25:35.79
I'm actually damaged and He
can't get through that damage.
00:25:35.99\00:25:40.77
Right? And I'm thinking:
"Yeah but but but but but...
00:25:40.97\00:25:44.63
And you know, I
just don't get it. "
00:25:44.93\00:25:47.18
So one time what He did
which I thought was incredible
00:25:47.38\00:25:50.22
is He... I was in Australia.
00:25:50.42\00:25:53.38
And I'm with a girlfriend.
00:25:53.58\00:25:56.07
And man, she's watching
right now so I want to say
00:25:56.47\00:26:00.78
"Hi Dani. " But
I'm with a girlfriend
00:26:00.88\00:26:03.47
and I just had met her.
She's depressed and suicidal
00:26:03.67\00:26:08.78
and she's having
all these problems.
00:26:08.88\00:26:10.25
Incredible woman of God.
00:26:10.33\00:26:11.70
Incredible ministry, but
she just got slammed with a lot
00:26:11.73\00:26:14.08
of things. But I
go over to her house
00:26:14.18\00:26:16.77
and has anybody heard the
thing about feral children?
00:26:16.97\00:26:20.73
Have you ever heard that term?
00:26:20.93\00:26:22.30
Her children are feral... wild.
00:26:23.02\00:26:25.87
Um, out of control.
00:26:26.27\00:26:27.96
I'm sitting
there talking to her.
00:26:28.72\00:26:30.42
She's talking to
me full attention
00:26:30.72\00:26:33.18
and her two-year-old
has got a bag of cheese
00:26:33.39\00:26:36.47
and he's... shredded cheese...
and he's going like this
00:26:36.67\00:26:39.62
and it's flying
all over the house
00:26:39.65\00:26:43.09
and she doesn't blink an eye.
00:26:43.81\00:26:45.73
She's just talking to me.
00:26:45.93\00:26:47.30
And I realize she's got
probably a dissociative disorder
00:26:47.33\00:26:50.34
'cause she does not
even see what he's doing.
00:26:50.54\00:26:52.36
Her other son is
a little bit older.
00:26:52.56\00:26:54.73
Sticks a metal piece of
toy with some dough on it
00:26:54.93\00:26:58.71
in the microwave.
00:26:58.91\00:27:00.34
And now there's fire,
smoke coming from the microwave.
00:27:00.54\00:27:03.82
And everybody is screaming.
00:27:04.02\00:27:05.80
Her daughter comes over. She
wants something from her mom.
00:27:06.01\00:27:08.55
Grabs her face and
says: "Mom, Mom, Mom "
00:27:08.76\00:27:11.46
and tries to turn her face.
00:27:11.59\00:27:13.06
Well her face does turn but
her eyes are still looking at me
00:27:13.26\00:27:16.06
and she's talking.
00:27:16.36\00:27:17.73
And I'm thinking
"This is just crazy! "
00:27:17.92\00:27:20.45
And I'm trying to just
say... How do you say to someone
00:27:20.65\00:27:23.48
"I think your kids
need a little attention.
00:27:23.68\00:27:25.75
You know, I'll be good. Just go
deal with that and come back. "
00:27:25.96\00:27:29.49
And I'd just met her so I
didn't want to say anything yet.
00:27:29.93\00:27:32.45
And then she
looks at me real serious
00:27:33.82\00:27:35.57
and she says: "Cherie,
I'd like you to pray for me
00:27:35.78\00:27:39.21
for an anointing. I'd
like to go into ministry. "
00:27:39.42\00:27:42.68
And I'm thinking: "Really?
00:27:44.78\00:27:47.92
'Cause this is your
ministry and you're not...
00:27:48.12\00:27:52.66
Let's pray for this. "
00:27:52.86\00:27:54.23
And so I go in the
room just trying to escape.
00:27:54.36\00:27:56.45
They're rebuilding their house
or it's a fixer-upper house.
00:27:56.65\00:27:59.16
There's no
doorknobs on any room.
00:27:59.37\00:28:01.49
So now I'm in my
room with no doorknob
00:28:01.69\00:28:04.17
and her kids come over
and jump over me on the bed.
00:28:04.27\00:28:06.83
Jump on the floor.
Run around, jump over me
00:28:07.03\00:28:08.86
on the bed. On
the floor, run around.
00:28:08.96\00:28:10.33
They do that about five times.
00:28:10.36\00:28:11.73
I'm really good.
00:28:11.76\00:28:13.13
I pretended I was
asleep the whole time
00:28:13.16\00:28:16.21
'cause I think eventually
they're going to get tired
00:28:16.41\00:28:18.04
of jumping over me, right?
00:28:18.14\00:28:19.53
So they did that
about five times.
00:28:19.64\00:28:21.22
Thought maybe I'm
dead so they left.
00:28:21.33\00:28:22.90
And so then a little while later
she talked about being anointed
00:28:23.10\00:28:27.40
for ministry again.
And then God told me:
00:28:27.50\00:28:29.32
"Are you going to
tell her the truth?
00:28:29.42\00:28:30.79
Are you going to talk
to her about all this? "
00:28:30.82\00:28:33.50
And so I went out and I
said: "This breaks my heart
00:28:33.70\00:28:36.55
but you need to be
anointed as a mother.
00:28:36.75\00:28:38.90
You need to be
prayed for as a mother.
00:28:39.11\00:28:40.66
This triggers every single thing
I've ever had to go through
00:28:41.07\00:28:44.10
in my life and nobody saw me.
And you're not seeing your kids
00:28:44.20\00:28:46.96
and this is really
damaging to you and them. "
00:28:47.17\00:28:49.34
And at one point... Do you
know that for a lot of people
00:28:49.54\00:28:51.94
they would kick you out of their
house if you said that to them.
00:28:51.97\00:28:54.57
You know what I mean?
She could have kicked me out
00:28:54.78\00:28:56.25
of her house. She could have got
angry. All that kind of stuff.
00:28:56.35\00:28:58.61
But what she did
instead: started crying and said
00:28:58.81\00:29:01.47
"Please, let's
pray about that. "
00:29:01.67\00:29:03.37
And so we prayed about that.
00:29:03.57\00:29:04.94
And it was really
intense, it was really sad.
00:29:04.97\00:29:07.09
We cried together. And
now I have to get ready
00:29:07.29\00:29:09.45
because I have a
speaking appointment.
00:29:09.55\00:29:10.92
So I go into the
shower, get ready.
00:29:10.95\00:29:12.98
I'm coming out and
all of a sudden God says:
00:29:13.18\00:29:15.72
"Do you know that was your
mom but she had five kids? "
00:29:15.92\00:29:18.51
And all of a sudden I saw my mom
00:29:19.56\00:29:22.07
in a totally different way.
00:29:22.28\00:29:24.14
She was trying to survive
with a man that was alcoholic
00:29:24.34\00:29:28.46
and not there for her. She
had one child after another
00:29:28.66\00:29:30.76
from the time she
was in her early teens.
00:29:30.86\00:29:32.67
She was molested before
then and had all that issue.
00:29:32.87\00:29:35.83
And I thought:
"God, I forgive her.
00:29:36.03\00:29:38.17
I am so sorry for
what she went through. "
00:29:38.37\00:29:41.04
And when I got home
I got to tell her that.
00:29:41.24\00:29:43.31
I got to tell her
"I want you to know
00:29:43.51\00:29:45.58
that I choose to forgive you. "
00:29:45.79\00:29:48.80
Right? And everything in me
00:29:49.10\00:29:51.90
started to heal
in a different way.
00:29:52.20\00:29:54.61
Amen. So it's really
interesting when God says
00:29:54.81\00:29:57.66
"I have to get to the
point where you could forgive
00:29:57.86\00:30:00.25
the people around
you. " Now He goes from...
00:30:00.35\00:30:03.00
And now my mom is free, right?
00:30:03.10\00:30:05.23
To the extent that she's
free. I mean she's got her own
00:30:05.43\00:30:07.43
stuff that she's
got to work out with God
00:30:07.53\00:30:09.26
but she doesn't have ties to me.
00:30:09.46\00:30:11.35
I'm not demanding her to
be anything other than she is.
00:30:11.45\00:30:14.70
I'm not demanding
any more that she love me
00:30:14.90\00:30:16.51
even though I would
love for her to love me.
00:30:16.61\00:30:18.26
But I don't think she's capable.
I think her wounding is intense
00:30:18.46\00:30:21.88
and unless God brings some big
changes I don't know if we'll
00:30:21.98\00:30:24.33
ever have that in this lifetime.
00:30:24.43\00:30:25.91
But she's free from that.
00:30:26.11\00:30:27.48
The alternative to
doing that with my mom
00:30:27.60\00:30:30.52
is I could sit with the anger,
00:30:30.72\00:30:33.36
the bitterness, the hatred,
00:30:33.56\00:30:35.51
the unfairness - all that stuff,
00:30:35.71\00:30:37.54
I could carry that
the rest of my life
00:30:37.64\00:30:39.27
or I could forgive her.
00:30:39.58\00:30:40.95
So then He goes to my dad.
00:30:40.98\00:30:42.36
"I want you to
forgive your dad. "
00:30:42.46\00:30:43.97
Are you kidding me? My
dad died in a crack house.
00:30:45.16\00:30:48.38
I was actually at
3ABN when my dad died
00:30:49.16\00:30:51.53
and John Lomacang and Angie
came over to minister to me.
00:30:51.73\00:30:54.65
I was a wreck.
00:30:54.85\00:30:56.22
I was a wreck because I
believed somewhere in my life
00:30:56.25\00:30:58.52
my dad would get well
and would come and ask me to
00:30:58.72\00:31:00.85
forgive him and be a father.
00:31:00.95\00:31:02.83
But he died in his disease
and that will never happen
00:31:03.03\00:31:05.39
and I was just a wreck.
00:31:05.49\00:31:06.86
And so God says: "I want
you to forgive your dad. "
00:31:06.89\00:31:09.30
And I'm like: "I
can't! I can't. "
00:31:09.50\00:31:14.11
And finally He said:
"Think of your dad as a baby,
00:31:14.14\00:31:19.46
a little baby,
before anybody damaged him
00:31:19.66\00:31:23.61
to the point he can
molest his own children
00:31:23.75\00:31:25.66
and say out loud 'I
forgive you as a baby
00:31:26.67\00:31:30.25
for whatever will
happen to you in your life
00:31:30.35\00:31:32.51
that you will do this to
all of your children. ' "
00:31:32.71\00:31:34.98
And I turned that over to God.
00:31:35.28\00:31:37.73
You know? I'm not
saying I have to reconcile...
00:31:38.84\00:31:40.82
any of that kind of stuff.
00:31:40.92\00:31:42.29
I'm just saying that I'm
turning that over to God.
00:31:42.32\00:31:44.37
God died for me. He's
asking me to forgive my dad
00:31:44.57\00:31:47.91
and He's asking me to
turn over that stuff to Him.
00:31:48.01\00:31:50.16
So I did that. The
next slide I want you to see
00:31:50.36\00:31:53.05
is a really powerful slide.
00:31:53.26\00:31:55.30
And it's going to give
you an example of an event.
00:31:56.92\00:32:00.89
And I made the example
of the event by just putting
00:32:01.09\00:32:03.91
a block of color,
right? So the block of color
00:32:04.01\00:32:07.10
is... and you see it on the
left hand side of your screen.
00:32:07.30\00:32:10.76
The block of color is the
event. And we're going to say
00:32:10.96\00:32:13.51
the block of color is
one of the times that my dad
00:32:13.61\00:32:17.21
interfered with
me in a sexual way.
00:32:17.41\00:32:20.36
Right? It could be anything.
00:32:20.56\00:32:23.89
Like for you it could be
abandonment, sexual abuse,
00:32:24.09\00:32:26.36
physical abuse, divorce.
00:32:26.57\00:32:28.29
It could be that you got
ripped off out of work thing.
00:32:28.49\00:32:30.62
It could be that...
whatever it is for you.
00:32:30.82\00:32:32.69
But the event is
considered that block.
00:32:32.89\00:32:35.29
Most people when they
think about forgiveness
00:32:35.49\00:32:38.58
they will think
about going to the event
00:32:38.78\00:32:40.89
and saying: "I
forgive my dad for this. "
00:32:41.09\00:32:44.28
And then a week later all
of it comes back up, right?
00:32:45.00\00:32:49.97
And they say again: "I
forgive my dad for this. "
00:32:50.17\00:32:53.20
And about a week later or
a day later it comes back up
00:32:53.50\00:32:56.63
or I'm believing the same thing.
00:32:56.77\00:32:58.15
And I think that that's where
we get forgiveness mixed up.
00:32:58.35\00:33:01.37
What I believe God taught
me through a lot of processes
00:33:01.57\00:33:04.45
is that when the devil
strategically does something
00:33:04.66\00:33:07.76
in your life that trashes you...
00:33:07.86\00:33:09.61
And I think it is... You know,
we've got the great controversy:
00:33:09.92\00:33:14.10
either it's God or the devil.
00:33:14.20\00:33:15.57
And I think for all of
our abuses, all of our junk,
00:33:15.62\00:33:18.02
when we act out with our
addictions, when we get lost
00:33:18.12\00:33:20.60
in sexual sin and all
that kind of stuff, the devil
00:33:20.70\00:33:22.91
tragically or
strategically comes against you.
00:33:23.01\00:33:26.56
So when the devil does that
00:33:26.76\00:33:28.13
he sets up schemes in your life.
00:33:28.26\00:33:30.42
The Bible talks about to
fight against the schemes
00:33:30.62\00:33:32.78
of the devil. Don't
fight against the devil...
00:33:32.88\00:33:34.82
that's God's job.
00:33:34.92\00:33:36.29
The scheme that he set up
in my life when I was molested
00:33:36.32\00:33:39.27
is that I didn't
feel worth anything.
00:33:39.37\00:33:41.10
I didn't feel protected.
00:33:41.13\00:33:42.64
I didn't feel like
anybody could be trusted.
00:33:42.84\00:33:44.84
And all of those are schemes.
00:33:45.04\00:33:46.41
So each of the things
that came off that event
00:33:46.44\00:33:48.41
are all various
schemes in my life.
00:33:48.61\00:33:50.86
The next event sets up
those same schemes usually.
00:33:50.96\00:33:53.64
I get in a
relationship that falls apart.
00:33:53.84\00:33:56.78
I don't feel like I'm loved.
00:33:56.98\00:33:58.35
I don't feel like
anybody can be trusted.
00:33:58.38\00:33:59.98
I feel worthless.
All that kind of stuff.
00:34:00.19\00:34:02.06
So the schemes are set
up. Whose fault is the event?
00:34:02.27\00:34:05.38
Whose fault do you
think the event is?
00:34:08.11\00:34:10.03
Satan originally...
but it's my dad's fault.
00:34:11.68\00:34:14.12
My dad molested me.
00:34:14.33\00:34:16.33
But whose fault
are all the schemes?
00:34:16.63\00:34:19.39
Mine. I choose to believe lies
00:34:20.50\00:34:24.36
that interfere with my life.
00:34:24.57\00:34:26.51
And God says: "When
you bring all of that to Me
00:34:26.71\00:34:29.88
I will heal you...
not only of the event
00:34:30.08\00:34:32.97
but all the schemes that
you live with every day -
00:34:33.17\00:34:36.05
all the lies that the
devil has told you every day -
00:34:36.15\00:34:38.26
all the lies that you tell
yourself because you become
00:34:38.46\00:34:41.01
your own perpetrator...
and I'm done. " Amen!
00:34:41.11\00:34:44.28
Christ died to set me free.
00:34:44.38\00:34:47.29
Literally. I am free.
00:34:47.50\00:34:49.89
So what I want to do
with this is I want to say
00:34:50.09\00:34:52.27
"You know what,
God? I forgive my father
00:34:52.47\00:34:54.36
for all of the abuse in my life.
00:34:54.56\00:34:56.70
I forgive him
from the sexual abuse.
00:34:56.90\00:34:58.35
I forgive him that
he was so messed up.
00:34:58.45\00:35:00.93
Something happened to him
where he could not even be
00:35:01.13\00:35:03.69
around children.
He was just a mess.
00:35:03.79\00:35:05.95
I forgive him for that... AND
00:35:06.15\00:35:08.68
I want You to
forgive me for my insecurity,
00:35:08.99\00:35:12.58
my sense of worthlessness,
00:35:12.69\00:35:14.31
my bitterness, my anger. "
00:35:14.51\00:35:16.31
I mean all of that kind of
stuff. So I'm really taking
00:35:16.41\00:35:18.78
a number of things to God
with the forgiveness process...
00:35:18.88\00:35:21.71
I'm not just taking one.
00:35:21.91\00:35:23.31
Does that make sense?
00:35:23.51\00:35:24.88
And if I don't... If I
don't take the schemes,
00:35:24.91\00:35:27.98
the Bible calls them
"schemes or strongholds, "
00:35:28.19\00:35:30.45
right? And does anybody
know what a stronghold is?
00:35:30.65\00:35:33.96
So a stronghold a lot of times
people look at it as a fortress.
00:35:36.14\00:35:39.89
Right? So it's this fortress.
00:35:40.19\00:35:41.93
It's this building;
it's this castle, right?
00:35:42.13\00:35:44.88
And the one that taught
me this stuff is an attorney
00:35:45.91\00:35:49.76
and a pastor. And
he said: "The devil
00:35:49.96\00:35:53.69
can be in your life on the
ground that you give him. "
00:35:53.89\00:35:57.76
He just wanted
to get an analogy.
00:35:57.96\00:35:59.98
"On the ground
that you give him. "
00:36:00.18\00:36:01.55
So if you give him anger
either God's going to stand
00:36:01.58\00:36:06.23
on that ground or the devil.
00:36:06.33\00:36:07.70
Who's going to be
more comfortable? "
00:36:07.73\00:36:09.36
The devil. Anger,
hatred, all that kind of stuff.
00:36:09.96\00:36:13.21
So you give him that ground.
00:36:13.24\00:36:14.82
Is that ground light or dark?
00:36:15.02\00:36:16.91
Dark. Dark.
00:36:17.11\00:36:18.53
So now let's imagine
that you have that fortress.
00:36:18.83\00:36:21.73
The fortress creates shadows
00:36:22.03\00:36:24.32
and the devil gets to
hide behind the shadows.
00:36:25.02\00:36:27.80
And the fortress is made up
of the lies that you believe.
00:36:28.51\00:36:32.58
So the devil can hide
behind the lies I believe
00:36:33.56\00:36:37.80
and I build them myself.
00:36:38.66\00:36:41.17
He can't build them.
00:36:41.37\00:36:42.74
He doesn't have the
power to build them.
00:36:43.07\00:36:45.06
God never gave him that.
00:36:45.26\00:36:46.63
I have the power to say
"yes" or "no" to truth or lies.
00:36:46.66\00:36:49.82
And God says: "When
you say 'yes' to lies
00:36:50.02\00:36:52.20
you give the devil
access. You give him a foothold.
00:36:52.30\00:36:55.37
You give him the
ability to come into your life.
00:36:55.57\00:36:57.86
If you feel you're worthless
and you're a creation of God,
00:36:58.06\00:37:00.48
you're beloved by God,
then the devil has lied to you.
00:37:00.58\00:37:04.11
And there's something here
that you need to bring to God.
00:37:04.31\00:37:06.56
And I started to look
at God: "OK... what is it?
00:37:06.76\00:37:09.18
I'm just going to
bring everything...
00:37:09.38\00:37:11.07
I'm going to bring everything. "
00:37:11.37\00:37:12.74
And I want to give another
demonstration to make it easy.
00:37:12.77\00:37:14.99
Lemuel, if I wrecked your car
outside... if I just ran into it
00:37:18.52\00:37:24.00
accidentally today...
And so I ran into your car
00:37:24.10\00:37:27.72
and you came in and said:
"Did you just run into my car? "
00:37:28.02\00:37:32.37
And I'm like:
"Well yeah, sorry. "
00:37:32.67\00:37:34.49
"Well do you have insurance? "
00:37:34.69\00:37:36.11
And I'm like: "Oh yeah
yeah. " And then I leave.
00:37:36.31\00:37:40.26
And I go back
home and you call me.
00:37:40.46\00:37:42.37
"Were you going to like
show me the insurance card? "
00:37:42.57\00:37:45.04
And I'm like: "Yeah,
yeah, sometime you know. "
00:37:45.44\00:37:47.77
And then a week or two
passes. I really need...
00:37:47.97\00:37:50.59
I need to file a full
report. I need that number
00:37:50.79\00:37:52.88
and all that kind of stuff.
00:37:52.98\00:37:54.35
Then you find out that not
only do I not have insurance
00:37:54.38\00:37:56.57
my name's not Cherie.
00:37:56.67\00:37:58.26
I lied about everything.
00:37:59.29\00:38:00.86
I don't have
insurance; I have no money.
00:38:01.26\00:38:03.67
I'm never going to fix his car.
00:38:03.87\00:38:05.68
So five years... Let's
say he takes me to court.
00:38:05.88\00:38:08.58
Five years he's tried to get
some money to pay for his car.
00:38:09.45\00:38:12.61
After five years what
do you think he should do?
00:38:13.57\00:38:17.29
Fix his car and go on, right?
00:38:20.44\00:38:24.00
And it's not fair
that he has to do that.
00:38:24.13\00:38:26.18
But just fix your car.
He's been angry for five years.
00:38:26.48\00:38:29.49
He's been trying to
get at me for five years.
00:38:29.69\00:38:31.52
He's been trying to
make it right for five years.
00:38:31.72\00:38:34.20
He's called Danny.
00:38:34.30\00:38:35.67
"Danny, you've got
to make her pay me. "
00:38:35.80\00:38:38.96
He's called everybody
but nobody can do anything
00:38:39.06\00:38:41.89
and he's just been
keyed up trying to get this.
00:38:42.09\00:38:44.00
And finally if he's
going to have a life at all,
00:38:44.30\00:38:47.32
if he's going to get
back to himself at all,
00:38:47.52\00:38:50.03
he's going to have to
say: "I am going to take that
00:38:50.13\00:38:53.09
responsibility myself.
I'm going to pay for the debt
00:38:53.19\00:38:56.43
that she owes me and then
I'm going to surrender that
00:38:56.63\00:38:59.78
to God and I'm going
to get on with my life. "
00:38:59.88\00:39:02.04
So nobody's saying this is fair.
00:39:02.24\00:39:04.26
Nobody's saying that God Himself
is even going to forget this.
00:39:04.46\00:39:07.19
He's going to
deal with it His way,
00:39:07.39\00:39:09.07
but I can no
longer carry this debt.
00:39:09.28\00:39:12.11
If I had to imagine my
father's debt to me in money
00:39:12.31\00:39:15.25
it would be
trillions of dollars.
00:39:15.45\00:39:16.99
But I'm going to forgive
him for the pain that he has
00:39:17.91\00:39:20.19
caused me. And I'm
going to turn that over to God
00:39:20.30\00:39:23.18
and say: "Forgive me for
my bitterness and my anger
00:39:23.39\00:39:26.42
and that root that has
taken a part of my life
00:39:26.45\00:39:29.57
and destroyed me almost.
00:39:29.77\00:39:31.47
And I'm going to ask
You to pull that root
00:39:31.67\00:39:33.58
and give me peace. "
00:39:33.68\00:39:35.87
And the Bible says: "A peace
that passes all understanding. "
00:39:36.17\00:39:39.13
And when we get that -
not only peace but joy...
00:39:39.43\00:39:42.15
When all of a sudden I get that
and some of you may feel that
00:39:42.35\00:39:45.15
today even as we talk about
this concept you feel lighter.
00:39:45.35\00:39:48.57
All of a sudden
it's like "You know what?
00:39:48.77\00:39:50.65
I am going to get out from
underneath that for the first
00:39:50.85\00:39:53.10
time in my life. " Whether it's
an ex or whether it's parents...
00:39:53.20\00:39:56.31
You know, raise your
hand if you have anybody that
00:39:56.51\00:39:59.04
that's out to
lunch in your family.
00:39:59.24\00:40:00.66
You know, I could say
that around the world...
00:40:02.56\00:40:04.59
just about every hand goes up.
00:40:04.69\00:40:06.24
There's always somebody.
00:40:06.34\00:40:07.71
Raise your hand if you
have anybody obnoxious that you
00:40:07.74\00:40:09.72
work with...
unless you work here.
00:40:09.82\00:40:11.96
No. So it's like
everybody has that.
00:40:12.78\00:40:16.60
And so God says: "You know
you've got to keep doing this.
00:40:16.80\00:40:20.03
You've got to forgive. "
00:40:20.13\00:40:21.50
There's something that Satan
does that he is really good at:
00:40:21.53\00:40:24.67
he lays traps for us.
00:40:24.88\00:40:28.68
In the Bible there's
a word called scandalon.
00:40:29.76\00:40:32.62
And it's like
scandalous, you know, offense.
00:40:32.83\00:40:36.04
You get all these kind
of root words from that.
00:40:36.24\00:40:38.70
But you just imagine like
a big trap... a bear trap.
00:40:38.90\00:40:41.80
Do you put a bear trap
in the middle of the room?
00:40:42.21\00:40:45.26
No, you hide it, right?
00:40:46.23\00:40:47.96
And so he hides it.
00:40:48.17\00:40:49.54
And let's say he hides it
where you won't necessarily
00:40:49.72\00:40:53.38
think it's going to come
from, where it's going to be.
00:40:53.58\00:40:56.15
And somebody
says something to you
00:40:56.35\00:40:59.02
that's offensive
or hurts your feelings
00:40:59.22\00:41:01.17
and you get offended,
all you've done is put
00:41:01.37\00:41:03.61
your hand in that trap.
00:41:03.71\00:41:05.08
And until you deal with
the offense you are caught.
00:41:05.17\00:41:09.68
Does that make sense?
00:41:10.08\00:41:11.51
You are caught. And then you
end up going to the next person
00:41:11.81\00:41:15.50
with your anger. You may be
only talking about what they did
00:41:15.70\00:41:19.04
but now everybody's
got their hand in this
00:41:19.24\00:41:21.73
and the offense gets bigger.
00:41:22.03\00:41:23.89
And it's being able
to say "Is there any way
00:41:24.09\00:41:26.34
that as a woman of
God as a man of God
00:41:26.54\00:41:28.58
that I can actually believe
God when He says the devil
00:41:28.78\00:41:32.26
has this strategic
plan to keep us offended.
00:41:32.46\00:41:35.74
To keep us off kilter.
00:41:35.94\00:41:38.37
To keep us attacking
and hurting each other
00:41:38.47\00:41:40.93
with all of these
offenses that build up.
00:41:41.13\00:41:43.10
Is God true when He
says that's his plan?
00:41:43.13\00:41:46.15
And the only way to be
free from that is accept
00:41:46.35\00:41:48.57
the blood of Christ
and walk away from that.
00:41:48.67\00:41:51.01
I am free and I
choose to forgive you. Amen.
00:41:51.82\00:41:55.46
I choose to...
00:41:55.66\00:41:57.46
and I know that
you're never going to ask me.
00:41:57.76\00:41:59.37
My mom has never said: "I'm
sorry that I don't love you. "
00:41:59.57\00:42:02.20
Ever... and she may never.
00:42:03.23\00:42:05.11
But I choose to forgive her.
00:42:05.41\00:42:07.67
What's really interesting
about all of that whole kind
00:42:07.78\00:42:12.53
of process is that once you
get on the other side of that,
00:42:12.63\00:42:15.61
once you get to a
place where you say
00:42:15.81\00:42:17.97
"You know, I get it and I'm not
going to walk around with that"
00:42:18.17\00:42:22.13
is I can have
somebody come right up to me
00:42:22.34\00:42:24.77
and say something - right
up to me and say something...
00:42:24.97\00:42:28.20
Like there's a girl
in this church I went to
00:42:28.30\00:42:31.53
a while ago. How do you tell
stories when people know you?
00:42:31.83\00:42:35.59
It's like she's saying: "Oh
she's going to tell that story
00:42:35.69\00:42:37.93
again. " But
there's a girl that...
00:42:38.03\00:42:39.83
And she would come
up and I don't know why
00:42:40.03\00:42:42.80
but she would love to say
stuff like: "You know I saw you
00:42:43.00\00:42:45.57
on 3ABN last night. Boy that
shirt looked awful on you. "
00:42:45.67\00:42:49.86
And I'm thinking: "What shirt? "
00:42:50.53\00:42:52.66
And I'm trying to think
of what shirt, and she said:
00:42:52.96\00:42:54.73
"And you know when you said this
00:42:54.93\00:42:56.83
that didn't go with anything. "
00:42:57.03\00:42:58.80
You know what I mean?
00:42:59.10\00:43:00.47
And ask she is talking
I just want to punch her.
00:43:00.57\00:43:06.10
And I don't know if
you're allowed to do that as an
00:43:06.60\00:43:08.24
evangelist, you
know, but I wanted to.
00:43:08.34\00:43:10.51
And I'm thinking:
"You're in recovery.
00:43:10.71\00:43:13.18
Put your hands down. "
And so I'm trying to be nice
00:43:13.38\00:43:16.60
and so I do the
Biblically right thing:
00:43:16.90\00:43:19.47
I pray about it.
She keeps doing it.
00:43:19.67\00:43:23.16
And then I decide to
talk to her privately.
00:43:23.46\00:43:26.45
"Do you know every time you
see me you kind of put me down?
00:43:26.75\00:43:30.41
And you know I've
got all these issues
00:43:30.61\00:43:32.36
and it just triggers that.
Can we when we see each other
00:43:32.46\00:43:36.17
just talk about
what's happening right now? "
00:43:36.37\00:43:37.92
And we'll pause a bit.
00:43:38.12\00:43:39.94
"Like why? Are you insecure? "
00:43:40.14\00:43:42.15
I'm like: "No, just stop. "
00:43:45.47\00:43:48.41
And so then the next
time the Bible says you go to
00:43:48.61\00:43:51.19
the pastor and
her, and I did that.
00:43:51.29\00:43:52.86
And then I prayed
about it and prayed about it.
00:43:53.06\00:43:55.49
And God... He's
so fun! I love Him.
00:43:55.69\00:43:58.17
He said: "Just tell her
never to talk to you again. "
00:43:58.37\00:44:00.63
Like really?
00:44:01.95\00:44:03.32
So I told her that: "Just
don't ever talk to me again
00:44:04.08\00:44:06.40
because we just can't
work this out and I don't know
00:44:06.61\00:44:08.28
what's going on but
it is just hurtful. "
00:44:08.38\00:44:10.33
And you know, I think
sometimes God does that.
00:44:10.53\00:44:12.53
Work on forgiveness but you
don't have to have relationship.
00:44:12.73\00:44:15.17
But now when she does talk
to me and she does approach me
00:44:15.37\00:44:18.49
and it is hurtful -
'cause I found out she does that
00:44:18.52\00:44:20.66
with a lot of
people and it is hurtful -
00:44:20.86\00:44:22.76
as she's talking do
you know what I say?
00:44:22.96\00:44:25.58
"Dear Father, I
choose to forgive
00:44:26.63\00:44:30.97
for hurting me in
the way she does...
00:44:31.17\00:44:34.64
for her talking
negative about me.
00:44:34.84\00:44:36.35
I triggers my insecurity
and it makes me feel like
00:44:36.55\00:44:39.25
I'm worthless. And what
if I am a fraud and what if
00:44:39.45\00:44:41.97
I really don't
deserve to be standing here.
00:44:42.07\00:44:44.81
What if I'm not good enough?
00:44:44.91\00:44:46.28
And I choose to pay for
the pain and the consequences
00:44:46.48\00:44:49.57
that she is
causing me right now. "
00:44:49.67\00:44:51.47
And she's still talking.
00:44:51.67\00:44:53.13
"I choose. I ask You
to break any stronghold
00:44:53.33\00:44:56.59
or any scheme that the
devil's trying to set up
00:44:56.69\00:44:58.50
right now. Forgive me for
my bitterness and my anger
00:44:58.70\00:45:02.12
towards her right now
00:45:02.32\00:45:04.55
and bless her. "
00:45:07.15\00:45:08.82
She stops
talking... I feel like gold.
00:45:09.12\00:45:13.40
Do you know what I mean?
00:45:13.60\00:45:14.97
I walk away just feeling
like I have never felt better.
00:45:15.15\00:45:18.83
And she just nailed me again
but I don't have to carry that
00:45:19.03\00:45:22.21
any more 'cause I
choose to do what God says,
00:45:22.31\00:45:25.95
I choose to forgive her.
00:45:26.05\00:45:28.31
Men: raise your hand if you've
ever thought about doing that
00:45:28.81\00:45:31.44
with a spouse.
00:45:31.54\00:45:33.25
You know what I mean. In
the middle of their craziness...
00:45:35.15\00:45:38.00
Poor Brad. You
know, he's married to me.
00:45:38.30\00:45:40.56
I'm ADD; I'm flaky;
it's all that kind of stuff.
00:45:40.76\00:45:45.49
But in the middle of
them saying something crazy,
00:45:45.89\00:45:49.98
in the middle of them telling
you what else you did wrong
00:45:50.28\00:45:54.07
or whatever, I
choose to forgive Brad.
00:45:54.27\00:45:59.01
You know, for saying
this. Causing me to feel like
00:46:00.17\00:46:03.31
somehow I'm not good
enough and I choose to...
00:46:03.51\00:46:06.22
And Satan uses the
same strategies with you.
00:46:06.32\00:46:08.47
Once you figure out what
the strategy is in your life...
00:46:08.67\00:46:10.84
He doesn't do a
lot of different things
00:46:11.04\00:46:13.52
'cause this works with you.
00:46:13.72\00:46:15.67
When somebody does
that worthlessness with me
00:46:15.87\00:46:19.22
that works... and so he
tends to go with those things.
00:46:19.32\00:46:22.75
But I choose to forgive him
00:46:22.95\00:46:24.68
and I choose to
turn that over to You.
00:46:24.88\00:46:27.21
Any root of bitterness
that's starting right now,
00:46:27.41\00:46:29.32
anything that's
starting in my life right now
00:46:29.52\00:46:31.35
because of what was said
I choose to give it back.
00:46:31.45\00:46:33.46
And if it's appropriate
I'll talk with Brad about it
00:46:33.66\00:46:35.77
or he'll talk with me about it.
00:46:35.87\00:46:37.52
But it's an incredible
place to be that I know
00:46:37.72\00:46:40.50
that if I don't do that - even
leaving it for a day or two -
00:46:40.70\00:46:44.44
those roots...
Does anybody garden?
00:46:44.64\00:46:47.26
How long does a
weed take to grow?
00:46:47.46\00:46:49.46
I mean, man, plants take forever
00:46:49.76\00:46:52.04
but weeds are up the next day.
00:46:52.34\00:46:54.20
Do you know what I mean? So
you just start pulling them up.
00:46:54.40\00:46:56.71
You know if you go around and
walk around the parking lot here
00:46:56.91\00:46:59.51
you will see weeds
that have taken asphalt up.
00:46:59.71\00:47:03.17
Do you know what I mean?
00:47:03.47\00:47:04.84
You've got to deal
with it right away.
00:47:04.92\00:47:06.83
And you've got to choose to
forgive... even if the other
00:47:07.03\00:47:09.31
person never even gets it.
00:47:09.41\00:47:11.23
It's not about this. We're at
the end of the great controversy
00:47:11.43\00:47:13.54
and it's about
connecting with God
00:47:13.74\00:47:15.31
and connecting with
each other on a real sense.
00:47:15.51\00:47:18.11
I love the fact that we
are in a place where God says
00:47:19.12\00:47:23.89
"I want to teach you this
more than I want to teach you
00:47:23.99\00:47:27.34
anything else. " We have
incredible stuff to learn.
00:47:27.54\00:47:30.48
We have
incredible revelation stuff.
00:47:30.68\00:47:32.52
We have incredible
things about end times.
00:47:32.63\00:47:35.06
We have incredible
health message stuff.
00:47:35.26\00:47:38.39
We have incredible
stuff but do you know what?
00:47:38.59\00:47:40.66
If we don't forgive,
does any of that matter?
00:47:40.79\00:47:43.90
Any of it?
00:47:44.88\00:47:46.45
And please hear me.
"Without love you are... "
00:47:46.65\00:47:50.39
nothing. You know what I mean?-
00:47:50.59\00:47:52.81
If I don't receive the love
of God, I can't fully understand
00:47:52.91\00:47:55.60
the gospel. And if I
don't give the love of God,
00:47:55.70\00:47:57.90
I can't fully understand
what it means to connect
00:47:58.00\00:47:59.90
with my brothers and sisters.
00:48:00.00\00:48:02.12
And so God says: "You know what?
00:48:02.32\00:48:03.69
The core of our spiritual
growth, the core of our
00:48:03.82\00:48:06.20
recovery, the core of healing,
00:48:06.30\00:48:07.74
is that I get this
forgiveness thing. "
00:48:07.94\00:48:09.56
And what I really love
and you're going to see this
00:48:09.87\00:48:12.60
on the graphic, but
what I really love about this
00:48:12.70\00:48:16.25
next thing is I could have
put a billion scriptures up.
00:48:16.35\00:48:19.60
I literally could have
went one after another.
00:48:19.80\00:48:21.70
But what I'm going
to do is I put twelve
00:48:21.90\00:48:24.53
because I just like the fact
that the Bible uses all these
00:48:24.63\00:48:27.90
numbers that mean something.
00:48:28.10\00:48:29.79
But if I decide to live
in a way that forgiveness
00:48:30.00\00:48:34.99
is who I am, that I'm
going to walk in forgiveness
00:48:35.09\00:48:38.32
and I'm going to do
that as much as I can
00:48:38.52\00:48:40.89
'cause sometimes we do it really
well and sometimes we don't,
00:48:41.09\00:48:43.87
but that's my goal... the
Bible says there's some promises
00:48:43.90\00:48:47.01
that go with that.
And I love the first one.
00:48:47.11\00:48:50.45
The first promise is
I will experience peace.
00:48:50.65\00:48:53.00
How cool is that?
00:48:54.56\00:48:56.05
And I don't know if anybody...
Does anybody want peace?
00:48:56.45\00:49:00.92
I'll experience
peace... and that's in Psalms.
00:49:01.02\00:49:05.58
I'll experience joy.
00:49:05.68\00:49:07.38
When we get unburdened,
00:49:07.78\00:49:10.22
when we get that
stuff lifted from us,
00:49:10.42\00:49:13.77
when I'm not demanding that
someone make it right with me
00:49:13.97\00:49:17.26
or I'm not looking at trying
to get someone else to see
00:49:17.37\00:49:20.27
how wrong they were
and all that kind of stuff,
00:49:20.47\00:49:22.56
when I get out from underneath
some of that kind of stuff
00:49:22.76\00:49:24.95
I find peace.
00:49:25.05\00:49:26.42
When I forgive
people for the abuses
00:49:26.45\00:49:28.28
and the molest and not loving me
00:49:28.48\00:49:30.14
I find peace 'cause I'm
not demanding that they know
00:49:30.34\00:49:33.24
anything. I'm now
asking God to bless them.
00:49:33.34\00:49:35.90
'Cause what's really
weird with forgiveness
00:49:36.10\00:49:37.96
and I guess it's
the same with God
00:49:38.17\00:49:39.77
is when you forgive
somebody love wakens up for them
00:49:39.97\00:49:43.32
sometimes. And not with
somebody that's really unsafe
00:49:43.42\00:49:46.07
so don't hear that, but
with people in your life
00:49:46.27\00:49:48.78
that sometimes it's
just that love wakens up.
00:49:48.88\00:49:50.83
And I think that that happened
with Christ and God and with us
00:49:50.93\00:49:54.02
and with - you
know - us and Him.
00:49:54.12\00:49:55.76
The third one is I will have
guidance in making my decisions.
00:49:55.96\00:50:01.32
You know, if I'm
making my decisions
00:50:01.62\00:50:03.79
through anger,
bitterness, unforgiveness,
00:50:03.99\00:50:06.24
who's guiding me?
00:50:06.44\00:50:07.92
You know, I'm being guided
actually by the devil himself.
00:50:08.98\00:50:11.85
You know, or it's demonic.
00:50:12.15\00:50:13.78
If I'm making my decisions
spiritually with forgiveness,
00:50:13.98\00:50:17.05
God is guiding me. And the
Bible's real clear about that.
00:50:17.25\00:50:19.97
It's that He
can't guide our revenge
00:50:20.07\00:50:22.76
but "turn to Me in this
area and I will guide you. "
00:50:22.96\00:50:26.52
Has anybody forgiven somebody
00:50:26.73\00:50:28.10
and then all of a
sudden you run into them
00:50:28.16\00:50:29.53
and God gives you
exactly what to say
00:50:29.63\00:50:31.61
and it's like
this anointed meeting?
00:50:31.71\00:50:33.46
You just think:
"How did that happen?
00:50:33.66\00:50:35.41
It was better than I
could have expected it to be.
00:50:35.61\00:50:38.63
How could? " All of a sudden
you walk away and you feel
00:50:38.83\00:50:41.54
that reconciliation has
happened and it's not because
00:50:41.64\00:50:43.61
of something that you
said. God just made that happen
00:50:43.72\00:50:46.81
because your
choice to forgive them
00:50:47.01\00:50:48.43
and to approach
them differently.
00:50:48.63\00:50:50.30
He says: "I will
give you guidance. "
00:50:50.41\00:50:52.82
"I will prosper you. "
00:50:54.71\00:50:56.60
Does that mean money?
00:50:58.43\00:51:00.01
Not necessarily...
'cause people really get that
00:51:01.27\00:51:04.16
mistaken view of prosperity.
00:51:04.36\00:51:07.10
Doesn't mean money.
00:51:07.30\00:51:08.67
But you know what? I
went from being unhappy
00:51:08.70\00:51:10.73
and wanting to
kill myself most days
00:51:10.83\00:51:13.28
to celebrating my life.
00:51:13.48\00:51:15.41
Do you know what I mean?
00:51:15.72\00:51:17.09
And if you asked me: "Do I feel
like my life is prosperous? "
00:51:17.16\00:51:20.52
I would say "absolutely! "
00:51:20.72\00:51:22.23
And I love it and
wouldn't trade it for anything.
00:51:23.09\00:51:25.90
And so just being able
to say is that God says:
00:51:26.10\00:51:28.16
"I will prosper you... " what-
ever that means for His glory.
00:51:28.26\00:51:31.35
The next one is I
will experience security.
00:51:32.39\00:51:35.63
I love that.
00:51:37.24\00:51:38.61
I've been
insecure my whole life.
00:51:38.69\00:51:40.61
One time I was in the
middle of doing a presentation.
00:51:41.01\00:51:45.05
Everybody else had
Ph.D.'s and all kinds of stuff.
00:51:45.25\00:51:47.91
I don't have anything.
00:51:48.11\00:51:49.78
I'm honored that you
even let me come up and teach
00:51:50.08\00:51:53.59
'cause that's an
incredible thing.
00:51:53.79\00:51:55.16
But I don't have anything,
and I was being insecure
00:51:55.19\00:51:57.06
about that. And I asked
God. I said: "Where do I go
00:51:57.16\00:51:59.71
when I'm in the
midst of this insecurity?
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Where do I keep going? "
00:52:03.00\00:52:04.37
And He showed me
a time when my dad
00:52:04.40\00:52:09.28
was going to molest us kids
he would put us all together
00:52:09.48\00:52:13.09
and go get drunk
and then come back.
00:52:13.19\00:52:14.61
We would just
have to wait for him.
00:52:14.81\00:52:16.34
And everybody knew
what was going to happen
00:52:16.54\00:52:17.91
and we would wait.
00:52:17.94\00:52:19.31
And sometimes we would just
wait in the tub and just wait.
00:52:19.34\00:52:21.67
And I just felt at one point
00:52:21.97\00:52:24.07
that Jesus said: "Can I
take you out of the tub? "
00:52:24.27\00:52:28.96
You know, I just felt a
sense that His hand came down
00:52:29.26\00:52:32.29
and He said: "It's
time to get out of the tub.
00:52:32.49\00:52:34.59
You don't have to
go back there any more.
00:52:34.69\00:52:36.42
You're not going to
be injured any more.
00:52:36.72\00:52:39.29
I AM protecting you.
00:52:39.49\00:52:40.86
You are walking in this.
It's not the same any more. "
00:52:41.03\00:52:44.58
And I think that
as we get the gospel
00:52:44.78\00:52:46.82
and some people haven't
gone through that much damage
00:52:47.02\00:52:49.15
but some of us
have, and God says:
00:52:49.35\00:52:51.47
"You're not there
any more. Grab My hand
00:52:51.57\00:52:54.37
and stay with
this. Forgive them. "
00:52:54.57\00:52:57.60
And I got out of the tub.
I remember just in my mind
00:52:58.50\00:53:01.37
that I never
went back there again.
00:53:01.57\00:53:03.91
Like if you talk to
me now I just feel...
00:53:04.12\00:53:07.22
I don't feel like that
I'm all that or whatever but
00:53:07.36\00:53:10.81
I just don't crash and
burn as much as I used to
00:53:10.91\00:53:13.51
just because I think that
God's got my hand in His hand.
00:53:13.61\00:53:19.56
Just an amazing thing.
00:53:19.76\00:53:21.19
Six says: "I will
give you wisdom. "
00:53:21.59\00:53:24.08
I love that.
00:53:25.24\00:53:26.61
You'll gain favor from others.
00:53:27.75\00:53:29.86
If I'm in a relationship
with you and you know
00:53:30.16\00:53:33.17
if I mess up I'm
going to come back and say:
00:53:33.37\00:53:35.28
"Forgive me. " If you
mess up, I'm not going to
00:53:35.49\00:53:38.18
make it this huge deal.
I'm going to forgive you.
00:53:38.38\00:53:41.10
Do you know what I mean? You
just gain favor from each other
00:53:41.30\00:53:43.92
because people start to
be able to trust who you are.
00:53:44.12\00:53:46.42
I will experience
God's provision for my needs.
00:53:48.73\00:53:51.43
Seven, I love that: My
children will experience
00:53:51.63\00:53:54.08
God's blessings. I love that.
00:53:54.19\00:53:57.22
I will never be forgotten.
00:53:58.14\00:53:59.78
Through this whole thing
you know? Eternity comes...
00:54:01.01\00:54:04.99
all of that kind of stuff.
00:54:05.19\00:54:06.56
God says: "I think of you
more than the grains of sand
00:54:06.59\00:54:10.06
on the planet. "
00:54:10.26\00:54:12.14
I'm in the heart of God;
I'm in the thoughts of God.
00:54:12.84\00:54:15.36
I'm in the thoughts of
people around me that love me.
00:54:15.66\00:54:17.85
All of that kind of
stuff. There's something about
00:54:17.96\00:54:20.45
someone walking in the light
of God and the Spirit of God
00:54:20.65\00:54:23.33
is they won't be
forgotten. It's not the same.
00:54:23.53\00:54:26.18
And it's just like the
Bible just promises that.
00:54:26.38\00:54:28.73
And "You'll
have a sure reward. "
00:54:29.13\00:54:31.00
There's really
some incredible blessing
00:54:31.20\00:54:33.85
when we get the
forgiveness thing.
00:54:34.05\00:54:35.68
But what the Bible says:
"If you can't forgive them
00:54:35.88\00:54:38.77
I can't forgive you. "
00:54:38.97\00:54:41.65
It's really the
core of this whole thing.
00:54:41.85\00:54:45.15
I have a friend of mine
that wrote a book called
00:54:45.35\00:54:47.04
Every Heart's Cry.
00:54:47.14\00:54:48.51
And she says in
the Garden of Eden
00:54:48.70\00:54:50.77
we were disconnected. We
were disconnected from God.
00:54:52.12\00:54:54.71
Right? And then we were
disconnected from each other.
00:54:54.91\00:54:58.24
And the only way to
change that is for us to
00:54:59.32\00:55:02.16
receive the
forgiveness that God gives us
00:55:02.26\00:55:04.21
and reconnect with God
00:55:04.44\00:55:06.69
and then forgive each other
and reconnect with each other
00:55:06.89\00:55:10.08
and the whole great
controversy is dealt with.
00:55:10.38\00:55:13.34
Disconnect trashed us
00:55:14.34\00:55:16.52
and reconnection
is going to heal us.
00:55:16.82\00:55:19.78
And not
superficially. I can't do this
00:55:19.98\00:55:23.44
with just a mask on. I
can't do this and just pretend.
00:55:23.64\00:55:26.51
I have to ask God
with everything in me
00:55:26.71\00:55:29.58
"Teach me how to forgive. "
00:55:29.79\00:55:31.54
"Teach me not
to hold a grudge. "
00:55:31.74\00:55:33.42
"Teach me not to be
walking around with offense
00:55:33.62\00:55:37.44
and bitterness. " Because I want
to be an incredible woman of God
00:55:37.54\00:55:41.04
filled with love... and safe
00:55:41.24\00:55:43.28
and I know that you
want that for yourself.
00:55:43.38\00:55:45.94
I want to just say again
it was incredible to be here.
00:55:46.14\00:55:48.61
I love 3ABN.
Homecoming is great.
00:55:48.81\00:55:52.52
You guys have saved my life.
00:55:52.72\00:55:55.18
When I talk about the
family of God and the fact that
00:55:55.38\00:55:59.80
ever since I
walked into this ministry
00:56:00.00\00:56:03.59
that I have been loved by
you guys all over the world.
00:56:03.79\00:56:06.38
I just got back from
Australia and Kenya and Moscow
00:56:06.78\00:56:11.72
and Thailand and
all that kind of stuff
00:56:11.85\00:56:13.42
and everywhere I
go there's 3ABN family
00:56:13.52\00:56:15.54
that love and
support this ministry.
00:56:15.74\00:56:17.45
And when you love
and support this ministry
00:56:17.65\00:56:19.65
you love flaky people like me
that stand up for the first time
00:56:19.85\00:56:23.44
and say: "What
can I do for God? "
00:56:23.54\00:56:25.10
And so I just want to
say thank you for that.
00:56:25.30\00:56:27.78
And I want to ask you
today as you go through the day
00:56:27.98\00:56:31.86
at Camp Meeting and you
see these incredible speakers
00:56:32.06\00:56:35.00
that are here and you
hear the music that is here
00:56:35.20\00:56:37.19
is that think to
yourself: "Is there anybody
00:56:37.39\00:56:39.84
that I need to forgive? "
00:56:40.04\00:56:41.41
"Is there anybody
I need to let go of
00:56:41.47\00:56:43.38
and finally
surrender that to God? "
00:56:43.58\00:56:45.25
And if someone
comes to your mind,
00:56:45.45\00:56:47.35
do it. OK?
00:56:48.63\00:56:51.85
Amen. Thank you so much.
00:56:52.35\00:56:54.74
And always remember
that God is crazy about you.
00:56:55.04\00:56:58.83
Me too. And I just
want to say one more thing.
00:56:59.13\00:57:03.51
I really wouldn't
be here without you...
00:57:05.12\00:57:07.27
so thank you.
00:57:07.47\00:57:10.20