Every year we
get the opportunity
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to renew this relationship
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between ASI and
Adventist Review.
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You know it's hard to
get as much creditability
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in the
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
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as is it is with
the Adventist Review
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that has existed
almost longer than
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the Seventh-day Adventist
Church has been as in existence.
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You know, tonight I have
with me Bill Knott the editor
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and executive publisher
of the Adventist Review
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and tell me Bill
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I know what an amazing
privilege it is for ASI
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to have the Adventist Review
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have a special edition
come out that features ASI.
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I know what we get
out of the publication
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and that what we get out
of the amazing viewer ship
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that happens but
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what exactly does the
Adventist Review get out of it.
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We get to partner
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with one of the most
dynamic organizations
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in the
Seventh-day Adventist Church,
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that's what we
get out of it. Amen.
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Our opportunity each
year to put this message
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in front of the members
of ASI and all the viewers
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who come from around the world
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to see what's
happening at this convention.
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It's an opportunity to
spread the message of Jesus
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in a compelling
way with a partner
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that's out there in the
marketplace doing the work,
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that's the best kind of
partnership for us. Amen.
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And isn't that
why we're all here
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to spread the good
news of the gospel.
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Now, I have noticed here
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on the front of
the Adventist Review,
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it says what
happened to the lost?
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Is-- I can't help but notice
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that this is obviously featuring
reaching those lost souls
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and this particularly
has a special interest to me.
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How many of you guys out there
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know someone
have a family member,
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any one in your
present life right now
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that is not
walking with the Lord?
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Raise your hand.
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Almost every single one of us.
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So why, Bill, did
you choose this topic
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for this special ASI edition?
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Well, if you look at who
wrote that cover article,
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he is going to be
speaking to you on Sabbath,
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Shawn Boonstra and
I have gotten to know
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each other well in
the last several years
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and Shawn has been
talking with me about this issue
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and it began to be
burning in my heart,
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what are we
saying about the lost?
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We frequently talk about
the success of our programs
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and the
importance of our committees
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and the size of our ministries
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but is that what
heaven is talking about?
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In fact Shawn will be
telling you on Sabbath
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to focus again on those
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that heaven is
most passionate about.
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This whole issue is focused on
renewing our focus on the lost.
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In fact, there is
even a piece in their
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called reclaiming the territory
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about some entity
called Little Lights Studios
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and a figure name Scotty.
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You guys all need to read
that article, just kidding.
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No, you really should.
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It is so important for
us to reach out to those
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that are in our own midst that,
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you know, our brothers
and sisters and family members
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and I know for a fact
that I'm standing here today
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because a friend of
mine reached out to me
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so definitely this
has a huge impact on me.
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Now, tell me, Bill,
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there is so many
religious magazines out there
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and there is a lot that focus
on various different aspects.
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What is it about
the Adventist Review
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that is unique or
special or different?
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This magazine has always been
about some of the very simple
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but very powerful ideas.
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The second coming of Jesus,
the truth of the seventh day,
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his ministry in
the heavenly sanctuary,
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those ideas have
been foundational
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for this magazine
for 163 years now.
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And that connection makes us
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unique among all
religious publications
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because we are continuing
to tell that same story,
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communicate that same
message and we are discovering
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that wherever the gospel is
shared it does have results.
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For those of you who
come up and talk with us
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about what this
magazine means in your life,
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it's very gratifying.
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But I want to see it
get out to even more people,
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more of those who will
come back into God's church
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because of the
message of this magazine.
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Amen, so, Bill, what is
that you want everybody in here
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who has had a magazine
placed on their chairs to do?
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Oh, of course, a
publisher would always like it
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if you subscribe
but more importantly
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this publisher would like
you to start thinking about
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the people who are not
walking with Jesus in your life.
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I would like you
to read the articles
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in this particular edition,
the online edition is free,
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unlocked for the next ten days.
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Go to adventistreview.org
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and you can read
everything in here as well
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and send your friends to it,
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take the opportunity to
pray about your commitment
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to those not walking with Jesus.
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The spirit is going
to lay on your heart
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a burden and a responsibility
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that will also be
the joy of your life.
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Amen, amen.
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Bill, I look
forward to all of you guys
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reading every
article that's in here
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and taking this home
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and learning
these precious truths
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of how we can all labor together
here to win as many souls
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and bring them up to the
kingdom of heaven as possible.
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Thank you. Thank you.
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Good evening ASI.
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I bring you greetings
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from your fellow
members in Europe.
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In Europe we have
currently about 1,000 members,
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scattered through 19
chapters and 23 countries.
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So we bring you these greetings
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from many
languages and cultures.
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Our president
couldn't be with us this year
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as he has been many years,
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so he asked me to
represent ASI for him with you.
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ASI has been blessed in
Europe. Thank God for that.
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Amen. Amen.
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It's very active and
indifferent from some years ago.
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We have many activities going on
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and especially we
have diverse activities
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in different countries.
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And we are also very glad
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and thankful
that North America has
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supported the GYC
project in Europe.
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Thank you for that.
Praise the Lord for this.
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And specifically
they are youth active.
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I want to share with you
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something that
I lived last week,
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actually last weekend.
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Last weekend I
came from a visit,
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visiting the Youth
for Jesus in Portugal.
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All though a smaller project,
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we have there a
team of 20 people
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and one story
impressed me very much
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that I want to share with you.
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A young guy that
was there participating
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knew the church in
a very particular way.
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He was at a class and
at the end of the class,
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one of his fellow students
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started talking about
the soon return of Jesus.
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But the way that he described,
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he told me that
somehow it didn't,
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you know, it didn't match
what he could imagine of it.
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So he went home, got a Bible
and start studying it himself.
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And he found out that
Jesus will really soon return.
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So he started a
research in the internet
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and started seeing
some YouTube videos
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of Alejandro Bullón.
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Probably you
some of you know him,
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he is evangelist
in South America.
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He was so impressed
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that he sent an
email to Alejandro Bullón
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asking him how can I know more
about the soon return of Jesus.
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So he put him in
contact with the local church
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and making the story short,
he was baptized a year ago
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and he was there participating
in Youth for Jesus.
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You see so God has many ways
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and this active member
is now impressing others
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to study the Bible.
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In that group 45
people were especially touched
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to receive Bible studies.
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So these 45 people
from that small town
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are now enrolled
for Bible studies.
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Thank God for
that, we praise the Lord.
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Now I also
wanted to share with you
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and make you an appeal,
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because Europe is so active
that want you to participate
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and that is about
the ASI 2013 Convention.
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It's going to be
held in July next year
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and I'm going to ask you
have an image of Portugal
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that's a typical tower of
the Portuguese discoverers
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that went through the world
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and Mark Finley is
going to be with us.
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He is going to
be from 3rd of July
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to the 6th of July 2013 in
a very special town or city
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the second
largest city in Portugal
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that has a long story, history.
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So if you want to
see history in Europe,
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just go to ASI Europe 2013.
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It is a very special
place as you can see.
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It's 19 century
building of 1854,
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full of history and
this city particularly is,
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was founded in
the third century,
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so you can see there
is a lot of things to see.
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I strongly urge
you to participate
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in ASI Europe, why not?
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You had been here many times,
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some of you why not
just a catch a plane
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and go to Europe
and participate actively
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also with your fellow members
from many different countries,
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last year because our convention
is held every two years
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we had
participants of 25 countries.
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So probably we are going to
have lot of Americans next year
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because you have a direct
flight from New York to Porto
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the city in Portugal
where it is going to be held.
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So make plans.
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It's a good opportunity
for you to know Europe
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and participate
with your fellow members
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at ASI Convention 2013.
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Thank you very much
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and continue to pray
for God to act in Europe.
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We have one more or one tonight,
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wonderful, exciting,
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motivating testimony from GYC
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and how they have
utilized or will utilize funds
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that we will
provide in our offering,
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that you will provide
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and so I'm really
excited to have them share.
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So come just a little bit closer
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and so tell me what is your name
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and what role
do you serve in GYC
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and tell us what GYC stands for.
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My name is Natasha Nebblett,
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I'm the Vice
President of Logistics for GYC
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and GYC stands for
Generation Youth Christ.
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It's an acronym for a
generation of young people
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that are excited
about Christ's soon return.
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My name is Alonna Smith
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and I'm serving as
a Treasurer for GYC.
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My name is Joshua Nebblett
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and I'm serving as the GYC
Director of European Affairs.
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The Director of
European Affairs?
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That's right.
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How old are you? I'm 23.
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Do you have a Job?
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Well, that was my
job for a little while,
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I'm also a student and do couple
of other things as well but.
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That's amazing. Yeah.
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I like, so I have to
give him some credit,
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the Director for
European Affairs, all right.
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It's actually a
polished, it's a very fancy term
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probably for Secretary of
Europe Business as well so.
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Okay, all right.
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Well, Mr. Director,
can you please tell us
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a little bit about
what happened for GYC Europe
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since you would
be expert on that?
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Absolutely so probably most
of you are familiar with GYC,
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it's a North
American based youth movement
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that holds an annual
conference every year.
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And every year
we had a delegation,
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certain young people from
Europe that have come over
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and attended our conference.
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Now there are
young people in Europe
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that are
passionate about the gospel,
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that are passionate
about youth movement
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and want to see something
like GYC happen in Europe.
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And so every
year they would come
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to our conference
here in North America.
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And every year the leadership
of GYC would meet with them
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and there was always this thing
when can GYC come to Europe?
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We want GYC in Europe
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because though
there is young people
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that are inspired
about that message,
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about youth movement in
Europe, it's very difficult
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for many of the Europeans
to get over here, of course
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because plane tickets
are very expensive, etcetera.
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So they really want
GYC to come to Europe
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and I believe it was a
year and six months ago,
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approximately our
president Justin McNeilus,
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he went to Europe and he
met with certain young people
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that were there in Europe
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and kind of that's
where the whole thing
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really got off the ground.
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And since then we had--
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there has been a lot of
planning that went into place.
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We actually held our
GYC Europe Conference,
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just a few weeks ago July 20-24
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and that was
held in Linz, Austria.
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It was really
an inspiring event.
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So all of you were in Austria
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along with other GYC
young people. That's right.
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So how do you, Alonna tell us
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how do you plan
an event like that,
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inter continent in a
whole another continent.
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Did you guys
just skype and email
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and you guys all
planned that event there?
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Yes, in fact I don't
know what we would have done
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without digital
technology for sure,
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but it's difficult planning
a conference in United States,
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when I actually
understand the language.
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But, to do something in Europe
'cause of lot of challenges
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but it was a huge blessing
because youth from Europe
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teamed up with our
team in the Untied States
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and we really formed one
team which made this happen.
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And so it was a great blessing
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and I of course is
helping with some logistic staff
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and that teamed up
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with the person who spoke German
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so it worked out really good
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and it was amazing to see
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how a team of young people
from North America and Europe
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just literally
we formed one team,
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it was amazing.
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For those who may
not have been blessed
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that you attended GYC Convention
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and, Joshua, can you
share little bit about
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some of features of
the GYC Europe Convention?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It was shaped very similarly
to GYC here in North America
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if any of you
have attended there.
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It started on a
Friday and went till Tuesday,
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GYC it started actually--
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it's actually somewhat
similarly shapes to how ASI is.
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We have, you know,
our plenary session
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in the morning and
evening and in the afternoons
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we have breakout
sessions or seminars,
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where the young
people were able to go
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and attend individual tracks
that they were interested in
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whether it would be,
you know, health evangelism
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if they had a burden to
go back to their countries
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and to hold tough evangelism
or you know public speaking,
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whatever it may be there
is always different tracks
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that the young
people could go to
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and attend those seminars
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and get specific
hands on training.
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We had many other things
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including one of the
highlights of GYC Europe
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which is always a
highlight also here in
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we have our conventions in
United States is evangelism,
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we have outreach every year.
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And on Sabbath
afternoon when we were in Linz,
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all of the young people went
out into the streets of Linz
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and handed out
literature offered,
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the Bible study cards, it was
really a powerful experience.
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That sounds incredible.
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Natasha, tell us
something, why is it significant
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that young people
would hold the conference
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of that nature in Europe?
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Well, one of the things that
makes it incredibly significant
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is it you look at
the spiritual condition
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of the European
continent for one.
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Secularism,
humanism and postmodernism
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are all having a
heyday over there
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and if we look
around the United States
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and we think that,
you know, postmodernism
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and secularism and
humanism are rough here,
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they are even
more rough over there.
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So explain
secularism, what's the big deal
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that it's so
embedded there in Europe?
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Well, secularism I
think is really born out of
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when Europe came
through the Dark Ages,
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the picture that they had of God
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that was shown them
during the Dark Ages
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really turned Europe off.
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And so now God has been
pushed back out of society,
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He is not loved
as a general rule,
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He is viewed very poorly
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and most people
have turned away from Him
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and decided there
isn't a God at all.
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And so, in Europe where
some of the first countries
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that decided that atheism
was their official religion
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and this is the
culture that we are going into
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and the people in general
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are turning away
from any concept of God,
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whatsoever to
like humans can do,
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what we can get
out of this world,
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what advantages we
have right here now
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because this is all
we have in their minds.
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And so to have
this conference come in
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where we are
excited about Bible study,
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where we're are excited
about prayer was groundbreaking
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and it was beautiful.
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Now, Joshua, you were telling
me there was another reason
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why it was pretty significant
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that this was
being held in Europe,
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conducted by young
people, why is that?
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Yeah, absolutely, why
because in Europe there is--
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because of the
culture of Europe,
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it's been very difficult
for the grassroots movement,
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for young people as individuals
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Seventh-day
Adventist young people
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that are
interested in working for God
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its been difficult for
them to start a youth movement
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like GYC here in the US.
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Like you know in North America
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we have so many
grassroots ministries.
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I mean ASI is made
of all of those, right?
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Of layman their
understanding up on Europe
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it's more, it's been difficult
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because of the
culture for that to happen.
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So, GYC it was a
landmark occasion
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in the sense that
it was young people
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putting on this confidence
and so GYC came in cooperation,
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you know, with some very
talented European young people
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as well as Alonna
was referring you before.
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We came together and
we held this conference
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and it was amazing,
was absolutely amazing.
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Now, since we
have shared with you
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a little bit of a
picture and words.
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Let's look at a few
pictures you can see exactly
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what may have taken place. Okay.
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So, what's happening here?
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All right so this is the
picture of the congregation,
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there was about, in
this picture there is about
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1,700 people sitting there.
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We had actually registered
about 2,300 on Sabbath,
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we had 1,700 people
come to the meetings.
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Let's go to the next slide.
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Yeah, we had actually
47 countries represented.
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Here you see the attendees
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that are getting
ready to go on outreach.
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And next, oh.
Yeah, this is actually-
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You had a camp out. We did.
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Some of the attendees obviously
are coming from countries
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where it's difficult to afford
even travel to get to Austria.
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So we offered
accommodations as you see
00:22:08.06\00:22:10.26
where they could stay for
much more economical prices
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and many of the
attendees chose to do this.
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Okay and next?
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This is translation
with that many countries
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coming together, those many.
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I don't even know
how many languages
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total we had represented.
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But we had a massive
amount of translation going on.
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The meetings
were held in English
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because that is the
most common language.
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But as you can see here,
these are translation booths,
00:22:35.69\00:22:39.99
all those young people in there,
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very dedicated, very
talented young people
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that translated via they
were speaking to a microphone
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and that would be
translated to the earpiece
00:22:48.00\00:22:50.59
of the people
sitting in the congregations.
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Those were the major languages
00:22:52.67\00:22:54.25
such as German,
French, Spanish etc.
00:22:54.28\00:22:58.13
we also had a
lot of smaller groups
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from countries
where there was many be
00:23:01.80\00:23:03.09
only five
representing that language
00:23:03.12\00:23:05.58
and for them we did
whisper translation.
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I love that whisper translation.
00:23:07.76\00:23:10.03
We did whisper translation
where they would sit in
00:23:10.06\00:23:11.96
with someone who could translate
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would sit like
amongst their group
00:23:13.52\00:23:15.41
and would whisper the meanings.
00:23:15.44\00:23:17.91
They were such-- God
poured out His Spirit.
00:23:17.94\00:23:20.08
We would praise
specifically for the translators
00:23:20.11\00:23:22.00
because they were the ones
communicating the messages.
00:23:22.03\00:23:24.18
They had to
translate David Asscherick
00:23:24.21\00:23:26.09
which was a real
challenge, but they did.
00:23:26.12\00:23:29.64
We were so, so thankful.
00:23:29.67\00:23:30.79
You can put that on
speed dial, I'm sure.
00:23:30.82\00:23:33.48
All right, let's get
into some experiences.
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Share with us a little
bit, Alonna, about Macedonia?
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Yeah, we had some
attendees that were coming
00:23:38.68\00:23:40.39
from some rather
obscure parts of Europe,
00:23:40.42\00:23:42.88
Macedonia was one of them.
00:23:42.91\00:23:44.07
We found a young
person who was able to come
00:23:44.10\00:23:46.22
and we actually
achieved a sponsorship for him
00:23:46.25\00:23:49.22
because he was
unable to afford it.
00:23:49.25\00:23:50.84
So week before GYC
he decides to come,
00:23:50.87\00:23:53.49
we put the funding in place.
00:23:53.52\00:23:55.03
So he arrives and on
the train right there
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he managed to witness
to 10 different people
00:23:58.50\00:24:01.21
and so he came all
excited just after GYC
00:24:01.24\00:24:04.03
and talked to me and
said, you wont believe this
00:24:04.06\00:24:06.24
but I know this was a divine
appointment for me to come here
00:24:06.27\00:24:08.95
just because of
who I met on the train
00:24:08.98\00:24:11.30
and he is going
back now to Macedonia
00:24:11.33\00:24:13.10
to share with all his friends
00:24:13.13\00:24:14.45
and other young
people about GYC.
00:24:14.48\00:24:16.59
Oh, that's excellent.
00:24:16.62\00:24:17.65
Natasha, tell us about
the cook in the kitchen?
00:24:17.68\00:24:20.21
The cook in the kitchen.
00:24:20.24\00:24:21.27
Well, besides the
tents that we had,
00:24:21.30\00:24:24.37
we did have hotels
for people to stay in
00:24:24.40\00:24:26.36
and in the main host hotel,
00:24:26.39\00:24:29.85
they would feed the attendees
breakfast within the hotel
00:24:29.88\00:24:32.85
kind of what we would
call a continental breakfast
00:24:32.88\00:24:35.08
but on much larger scale.
00:24:35.11\00:24:36.93
And so like
hundreds of young people
00:24:36.96\00:24:39.72
would be coming in here
every morning for breakfast
00:24:39.75\00:24:41.67
and they were all
smiling, they were happy
00:24:41.70\00:24:43.92
and so the cooks and the waiters
00:24:43.95\00:24:45.97
and waitresses would be
like you know, who are you,
00:24:46.00\00:24:47.75
what are you doing here?
00:24:47.78\00:24:49.01
You all look so
happy, you are all smiling.
00:24:49.04\00:24:50.92
We got so many
comments of that nature.
00:24:50.95\00:24:52.83
Anyway one of the
cooks after observing
00:24:52.86\00:24:56.30
ended up asking
for Bible studies
00:24:56.33\00:24:58.95
and he is already
receiving Bible studies,
00:24:58.98\00:25:01.50
the last morning he was
00:25:01.53\00:25:03.62
one of the logistics
people was telling him,
00:25:03.65\00:25:05.37
we are going to have so
and so give you Bible studies
00:25:05.40\00:25:07.61
and he is like,
oh that is wonderful,
00:25:07.64\00:25:09.08
that is so
wonderful, thank you so much.
00:25:09.11\00:25:11.25
And we were so
excited that this person
00:25:11.28\00:25:13.77
who didn't even
really wasn't an Adventist,
00:25:13.80\00:25:16.17
wasn't anything, he observed us
00:25:16.20\00:25:18.00
and after
watching the young people
00:25:18.03\00:25:20.13
that were there,
he actually attended
00:25:20.16\00:25:21.91
some of the evening meetings
00:25:21.94\00:25:23.78
and then he
requested Bible studies.
00:25:23.81\00:25:25.07
Incredible, incredible.
00:25:25.10\00:25:26.61
Now, we only have a
couple of minutes left.
00:25:26.64\00:25:28.11
I want to move off of Europe
00:25:28.14\00:25:29.47
to find out
what's happening now?
00:25:29.50\00:25:31.89
What are the plans
for GYC in the future?
00:25:31.92\00:25:34.31
Okay, well of course, we
have our annual conference,
00:25:34.34\00:25:36.82
so we are having our
conference in Seattle this year.
00:25:36.85\00:25:39.52
Seattle, Washington December
8 through January 1, 2013.
00:25:39.55\00:25:44.76
This year it's a
little bit different,
00:25:44.79\00:25:45.98
normally we run our conferences
Wednesday through Sunday,
00:25:46.01\00:25:48.99
but because of this
year where Christmas falls,
00:25:49.02\00:25:51.07
we moved our conference
through Friday through Tuesday.
00:25:51.10\00:25:53.82
So, it starts Friday
night then it moves on to--
00:25:53.85\00:25:56.66
ends Tuesday morning.
00:25:56.69\00:25:57.72
Wow, I'm sure
that someone might here
00:25:57.75\00:26:00.51
might you want to go to GYC.
00:26:00.54\00:26:02.34
We would love to have them.
00:26:02.37\00:26:03.40
There is something
else that GYC is doing.
00:26:03.43\00:26:04.79
It's not just
holding conferences
00:26:04.82\00:26:06.50
but you have some mission work
and outreach that's happening.
00:26:06.53\00:26:10.64
Alonna, tell us about
00:26:10.67\00:26:11.84
what's happening
here in the United States?
00:26:11.87\00:26:13.88
Yeah, here in the United States
00:26:13.91\00:26:14.99
exciting things
are happening as well.
00:26:15.02\00:26:16.63
Charleston, West Virginia,
we were invited to come there
00:26:16.66\00:26:19.62
and hold a brief training
00:26:19.65\00:26:21.24
to help mobilize
the young people there.
00:26:21.27\00:26:23.55
To make a long story short,
00:26:23.58\00:26:24.61
now they are
knocking on every door
00:26:24.64\00:26:25.86
in Charleston, West Virginia.
00:26:25.89\00:26:27.93
And there is a
mission in Tanzania?
00:26:27.96\00:26:30.42
Even as we speak we
had two mission trips
00:26:30.45\00:26:33.22
in Tanzania this
year that GYC organized.
00:26:33.25\00:26:36.47
One happened in June
00:26:36.50\00:26:37.53
and one is
happening as we speak here,
00:26:37.56\00:26:39.16
they are in a very, very
difficult to reach portion
00:26:39.19\00:26:42.48
of Tanzania where
there is a lot of resistance.
00:26:42.51\00:26:44.14
Keep them in your prayers there
00:26:44.17\00:26:45.29
they are right now
holding evangelistic series
00:26:45.32\00:26:47.01
and the Lord is blessing.
00:26:47.04\00:26:48.34
Wonderful. We're so excited.
00:26:48.37\00:26:49.69
And the last
word for the Director
00:26:49.72\00:26:52.29
of European Affairs.
00:26:52.32\00:26:53.80
If people want more information
and hear more of these stories,
00:26:53.83\00:26:56.66
is there a booth
in the exhibit hall?
00:26:56.69\00:26:59.94
Yeah,
absolutely there is a booth
00:26:59.97\00:27:01.29
and unfortunately I
don't know the number
00:27:01.32\00:27:03.89
but you can go to,
or you can go into there
00:27:03.92\00:27:06.18
and see if you
can find the GYC booth
00:27:06.21\00:27:08.46
and if you can't do that,
then you can visit us online
00:27:08.49\00:27:11.03
at gycweb.org or gyceurope.org.
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Excellent, thank you
very much young people.
00:27:15.89\00:27:21.32
GYC is truly an
international organization.
00:27:21.35\00:27:24.99
God using people
all over the world
00:27:25.02\00:27:28.03
to accomplish his mission
00:27:28.06\00:27:30.55
for those who are
willing to follow.
00:27:30.58\00:27:33.30
And our next
interview is an example of that.
00:27:33.33\00:27:37.90
Sandra Silva, who
well, where are you from?
00:27:37.93\00:27:43.14
I'm actually from Canada.
00:27:43.17\00:27:44.79
Right now? Right now.
00:27:44.82\00:27:45.85
And your parents are the ones
00:27:45.88\00:27:47.72
who are spearheading
this mission project.
00:27:47.75\00:27:51.26
Where are they from?
00:27:51.29\00:27:52.47
My parents are
actually from Portugal.
00:27:52.50\00:27:54.37
Okay. Yes.
00:27:54.40\00:27:55.43
And where is the project?
00:27:55.46\00:27:57.72
The project is
actually in Costa Rica.
00:27:57.75\00:28:00.13
Okay, so it truly is an
international type project.
00:28:00.16\00:28:03.99
May be you can tell us name
00:28:04.02\00:28:05.05
since I'll sure, I'm sure
that I will stumble over it.
00:28:05.08\00:28:08.68
Well the name
is Vista Los Suenos
00:28:08.71\00:28:11.44
Lifestyle Solutions and Spa.
00:28:11.47\00:28:14.25
Okay, and it's a ministry
that is largely overlooked.
00:28:14.28\00:28:20.38
What is the
ministry and what is it,
00:28:20.41\00:28:22.55
just tell us just
a little bit about
00:28:22.58\00:28:24.02
what you are planning to do?
00:28:24.05\00:28:25.35
Okay, well the
ministry is basically
00:28:25.38\00:28:29.15
looking to reach
out to the very wealthy.
00:28:29.18\00:28:32.03
We will be doing a
lifestyle spa and solutions,
00:28:32.06\00:28:36.05
we will teach
life style education,
00:28:36.08\00:28:39.04
teach people how to
have improved health
00:28:39.07\00:28:41.74
but most of all how to
know Jesus, the great physician.
00:28:41.77\00:28:46.21
Tell us just a little bit about
how you started with this idea.
00:28:46.24\00:28:52.64
How did you get where you are at
00:28:52.67\00:28:54.89
and how far long are you?
00:28:54.92\00:28:56.25
Okay, well you
can see on the website
00:28:56.28\00:28:58.98
for example Los Suenos
00:28:59.01\00:29:01.51
it's a beautiful
resort a five star resort
00:29:01.54\00:29:05.38
and it's a place where my
parents had a condo and I just.
00:29:05.41\00:29:08.94
We have some pictures
in fact of where it's at,
00:29:08.97\00:29:11.19
so perhaps we could
show some of those too.
00:29:11.22\00:29:14.26
It's basically
located you will see there
00:29:14.29\00:29:16.98
just near Jaco
beach about nine and half
00:29:17.01\00:29:19.90
from San Jose there
in the Pacific Ocean.
00:29:19.93\00:29:23.56
It's a beautiful resort,
00:29:23.59\00:29:25.43
has the only international
marina in Costa Rica
00:29:25.46\00:29:29.44
and basically it's really
to reach out to the wealthy.
00:29:29.47\00:29:33.48
And one day I just
woke up from a dream
00:29:33.51\00:29:36.60
and the dream was
that my dad was building
00:29:36.63\00:29:39.74
two houses on this piece of land
00:29:39.77\00:29:41.95
going up this hill and mountain
00:29:41.98\00:29:44.21
and it was on the left hand side
00:29:44.24\00:29:45.80
and I remember calling
my parents that morning
00:29:45.83\00:29:49.08
and saying mom,
dad, I had this dream
00:29:49.11\00:29:51.95
that you building two
houses on this piece of land
00:29:51.98\00:29:55.47
and I described it.
00:29:55.50\00:29:57.78
My dad said Sandra
how do you know that today
00:29:57.81\00:30:00.51
I'm to sign papers to buy
exactly what you described.
00:30:00.54\00:30:04.46
And my dad wasn't a member
00:30:04.49\00:30:06.74
of the Seventh-day
Adventist Church at that time
00:30:06.77\00:30:08.64
but praise God he is now. Amen.
00:30:08.67\00:30:10.75
And he is, and I just said
daddy got must be in it, amen.
00:30:10.78\00:30:15.91
And sure enough God then let us
00:30:15.94\00:30:18.87
to build there right after.
00:30:18.90\00:30:20.37
Three years
later got another dream
00:30:20.40\00:30:21.96
saying build on
the mountain, Sandra.
00:30:21.99\00:30:23.77
It's time to reach
out to those people. Amen.
00:30:23.80\00:30:27.39
So, let's back
up just a little bit
00:30:27.42\00:30:29.61
you said your dad wasn't
an Adventist then what was he?
00:30:29.64\00:30:34.76
What denomination was he?
00:30:34.79\00:30:35.82
He was Catholic,
have being Portuguese.
00:30:35.85\00:30:38.10
And so how about,
00:30:38.13\00:30:39.90
we are not
talking about Adventist
00:30:39.93\00:30:41.77
for a long period of time,
00:30:41.80\00:30:43.06
how long has he
been an Adventist?
00:30:43.09\00:30:44.78
He is been an
Adventist for just over 4 years.
00:30:44.81\00:30:47.45
Okay, and so this
is a lifestyle centre
00:30:47.48\00:30:52.07
that is designed to
appeal to those who are wealthy.
00:30:52.10\00:30:56.19
Tell us some stories?
00:30:56.22\00:30:57.78
Well exciting,
there is a gentleman
00:30:57.81\00:31:00.19
on top of the mountain there,
00:31:00.22\00:31:02.12
said to my mom and dad Mr. Silva
00:31:02.15\00:31:04.47
we want to take
you to our beach house
00:31:04.50\00:31:07.46
in another part of Coast
Rica and I'm bring my chef
00:31:07.49\00:31:10.22
and he is going to do
a weekend meal for you
00:31:10.25\00:31:12.00
and I'm bringing my
wife and come along.
00:31:12.03\00:31:14.57
And my parents
had that opportunity
00:31:14.60\00:31:16.67
while they were there my
mom began to share about my life
00:31:16.70\00:31:19.86
and my walk with God
and how God answers prayers.
00:31:19.89\00:31:23.31
And the lady said you
know, I don't know God
00:31:23.34\00:31:26.30
but can you pray for my children
00:31:26.33\00:31:28.98
and you know it just
began relationship building,
00:31:29.01\00:31:31.95
you know building relationships
00:31:31.98\00:31:33.44
that these
individuals might know Jesus
00:31:33.47\00:31:35.30
and we started
Bible studies there
00:31:35.33\00:31:37.01
and we do hope to plant a
church there as well. Amen.
00:31:37.04\00:31:41.35
Sandra, your parents,
this is kind of a new thing
00:31:41.38\00:31:45.99
and so you don't
have a website yet
00:31:46.02\00:31:48.66
and you don't have a booth here
00:31:48.69\00:31:52.32
but there are heading toward
membership as ASI members.
00:31:52.35\00:31:56.68
How can we contact you
00:31:56.71\00:31:58.33
if we want to get
more information? Yes.
00:31:58.36\00:32:02.24
Well they heard about
the story very recently
00:32:02.27\00:32:04.63
and so we didn't have
all the information to give,
00:32:04.66\00:32:07.26
but I'll give you my email
00:32:07.29\00:32:10.11
which is ssilva@albertasta.org
00:32:10.14\00:32:15.84
that's ssilva@albertasta.org
00:32:15.87\00:32:19.87
and then we hope to
have a website out soon
00:32:19.90\00:32:23.77
with Vista Los Suenos, the
Lifestyle Solutions and Spa.
00:32:23.80\00:32:28.27
Okay, we actually
have a one more minute
00:32:28.30\00:32:31.54
little bit over a minute
if you have another story.
00:32:31.57\00:32:33.32
Do you have a
quick story for us?
00:32:33.35\00:32:34.50
Well, I just
share how God can use
00:32:34.53\00:32:36.14
any one to give
Bible studies. Good.
00:32:36.17\00:32:38.02
I remember my mom
sings Sandra come prepared,
00:32:38.05\00:32:40.40
we have so many Bible studies,
00:32:40.43\00:32:42.00
I go walking and I
meet all these people
00:32:42.03\00:32:45.08
and so we started
to study the Bible
00:32:45.11\00:32:46.93
with a lady who
was from even Brazil
00:32:46.96\00:32:50.78
and then she went off
and the maid came to see us.
00:32:50.81\00:32:53.15
She said will
you teach me as well.
00:32:53.18\00:32:55.92
You know, I have been listening
00:32:55.95\00:32:57.69
and so we
continued in Bible studies
00:32:57.72\00:32:59.64
and I had to leave
00:32:59.67\00:33:01.23
because I could
only be there for a month
00:33:01.26\00:33:03.49
and I was praying
Lord what do I do?
00:33:03.52\00:33:05.34
And God said Sandra
give them over to your mom,
00:33:05.37\00:33:08.29
let her give the Bible studies.
00:33:08.32\00:33:10.69
And so I ran to my mom,
00:33:10.72\00:33:12.25
I said mom see it's
easy you can do this,
00:33:12.28\00:33:15.71
you know, and most
importantly God is with you.
00:33:15.74\00:33:18.67
And my mom said, but
Sandra I don't speak Spanish,
00:33:18.70\00:33:21.70
I speak Portuguese.
00:33:21.73\00:33:23.46
I said, mom it's so close
00:33:23.49\00:33:25.00
I know the Holy
Spirit will help you
00:33:25.03\00:33:27.54
and indeed God is able to,
00:33:27.57\00:33:29.46
my mom had never
given Bible studies before
00:33:29.49\00:33:31.82
but she was able
to give Bible studies
00:33:31.85\00:33:33.55
and continue to correspond
with these individuals,
00:33:33.58\00:33:35.86
praise God. Amen.
00:33:35.89\00:33:37.44
So, once again give
us the email address.
00:33:37.47\00:33:40.22
Again the email is
ssilva@albertasta.org
00:33:40.25\00:33:46.67
Sandra, it's been a
pleasure talking to you
00:33:46.70\00:33:48.39
and we wish you God's blessing
00:33:48.42\00:33:50.05
and we will keep
you on our prayers too.
00:33:50.08\00:33:51.69
Thank you, thank you.
00:33:51.72\00:33:53.38
God is able to use people
00:33:53.41\00:33:55.31
no matter what
position they may hold.
00:33:55.34\00:33:58.56
You don't have to be a pastor,
00:33:58.59\00:33:59.88
you don't have to be someone
00:33:59.91\00:34:01.99
who has been trained
necessarily in evangelism,
00:34:02.02\00:34:04.90
all you have to be is willing
and that kind of leaves us
00:34:04.93\00:34:09.08
to our next
members in action segment
00:34:09.11\00:34:12.16
and that's about a church plant.
00:34:12.19\00:34:14.78
I have here with me this evening
00:34:14.81\00:34:17.60
Steven Grabiner and Jay Anders.
00:34:17.63\00:34:20.09
May be you could
tell us very quickly,
00:34:20.12\00:34:21.80
and I know some of
you know are known here
00:34:21.83\00:34:24.57
but just quickly
tell us what you do
00:34:24.60\00:34:27.88
and then we will go from there.
00:34:27.91\00:34:29.91
I work with Outpost
Centers International,
00:34:29.94\00:34:32.06
a mission
organization. Good, and Jay?
00:34:32.09\00:34:34.94
I am electrical engineer
and I work for Mesa Associates
00:34:34.97\00:34:37.40
in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
00:34:37.43\00:34:38.74
Okay, now you-- this
is an exciting story.
00:34:38.77\00:34:43.57
You have just begun
00:34:43.60\00:34:45.61
or it's been now very
shortly a church plant.
00:34:45.64\00:34:49.29
Where did you go
to church before?
00:34:49.32\00:34:51.15
We used to attend a
church in Collegedale,
00:34:51.18\00:34:53.47
Tennessee called McDonald Road
00:34:53.50\00:34:55.46
and any one knows Collegedale
00:34:55.49\00:34:57.61
so the amount of
Adventist universities there,
00:34:57.64\00:34:59.48
there is lots of
churches. That's right.
00:34:59.51\00:35:01.31
So it's pretty
easy to go to church
00:35:01.34\00:35:02.93
and just fade
into the furniture.
00:35:02.96\00:35:06.44
Yeah, and then, Jay, tell us,
00:35:06.47\00:35:10.71
how did you kind of get the idea
00:35:10.74\00:35:12.04
that you wanted
to, you're thinking,
00:35:12.07\00:35:13.21
may be we could start a church.
00:35:13.24\00:35:16.08
I guess a lot of us
did talked about it,
00:35:16.11\00:35:18.12
several of us had gone
to Sabbath school together
00:35:18.15\00:35:20.42
and one spring
after this camp meeting,
00:35:20.45\00:35:23.16
we were all just sitting
around, kind a, got the idea,
00:35:23.19\00:35:25.65
let's do this, let's
start a church plant.
00:35:25.68\00:35:28.31
So from there, we just started
looking at some possibilities,
00:35:28.34\00:35:30.96
you know, were in the area
00:35:30.99\00:35:33.35
and we looked at, like Steven
has alluded to in Chattanooga,
00:35:33.38\00:35:36.80
Collegedale area,
there's a lot of churches.
00:35:36.83\00:35:39.24
But as we start
putting punch pins on the map,
00:35:39.27\00:35:41.36
we noticed that in East
Ridge, there was nothing.
00:35:41.39\00:35:44.31
So from there, we thought,
00:35:44.34\00:35:45.37
well lets' just look
and explore the idea,
00:35:45.40\00:35:47.32
doing a church plant
in East Ridge, Tennessee.
00:35:47.35\00:35:49.70
Okay, so what East Ridge
00:35:49.73\00:35:51.89
and you began your
little group, began where?
00:35:51.92\00:35:57.46
What facility were
you using to start with?
00:35:57.49\00:36:00.31
Well, we began
looking for locations,
00:36:00.34\00:36:02.99
we considered a
spot on the main drag,
00:36:03.02\00:36:05.48
which is really
small but fortunately,
00:36:05.51\00:36:07.75
'Church of God' wasn't it?
00:36:07.78\00:36:08.99
They opened their doors to us,
00:36:09.02\00:36:10.42
that was the
first church we rented,
00:36:10.45\00:36:12.72
then we outgrew that,
00:36:12.75\00:36:14.58
and then the Methodist church
opened up their doors to us
00:36:14.61\00:36:17.16
and we rented
that for a while. Okay.
00:36:17.19\00:36:19.32
So we brought the
Seventh Adventist church
00:36:19.35\00:36:21.20
into other churches as well.
00:36:21.23\00:36:23.83
Now, tell us some stories,
you have some amazing stories
00:36:23.86\00:36:27.61
or things that have happened
00:36:27.64\00:36:29.40
very recently
with this church plan.
00:36:29.43\00:36:32.32
Yeah, before we do that, may be,
00:36:32.35\00:36:34.01
we could just share a
little about our transition
00:36:34.04\00:36:35.81
from our Methodist
church to where we are now.
00:36:35.84\00:36:37.87
Jay, you want to share it.
00:36:37.90\00:36:38.93
In fact I was going to ask you
about the building, go ahead.
00:36:38.96\00:36:40.63
Okay, yeah, like Steven said,
00:36:40.66\00:36:43.36
we started off we were in our
second facility meeting there
00:36:43.39\00:36:47.28
and slowly outgrowing it.
00:36:47.31\00:36:49.20
And a friend of
mine who is a realtor,
00:36:49.23\00:36:51.29
she'd never sold a church
before and never sold a home
00:36:51.32\00:36:54.71
in East Ridge,
Tennessee actually.
00:36:54.74\00:36:56.27
She worked up in
another part of town.
00:36:56.30\00:36:58.07
She called me up and said, Jay,
00:36:58.10\00:36:59.48
God has given me
your church to sale,
00:36:59.51\00:37:02.70
because her husband
worked for me, I was like what.
00:37:02.73\00:37:05.42
It's a long series of events,
but through God's providence
00:37:05.45\00:37:09.15
and the
dedication of our members,
00:37:09.18\00:37:11.02
we are actually able
to-- we set some goals.
00:37:11.05\00:37:13.52
We have to raise
50% of the money,
00:37:13.55\00:37:15.73
we were able to do that.
00:37:15.76\00:37:17.86
Things fell in place over
and about a three month interval
00:37:17.89\00:37:20.36
finally we ended up
buying to purchase a church
00:37:20.39\00:37:23.45
that was in for
closure in East Ridge.
00:37:23.48\00:37:25.38
I would say that right now,
again go to God's providence,
00:37:25.41\00:37:28.60
the dedication of the members,
that church is now paid off,
00:37:28.63\00:37:32.22
and we are in a middle
of a renovation program,
00:37:32.25\00:37:35.02
that's again being
totally done by capital
00:37:35.05\00:37:37.40
which was raised,
no debt incurred. Amen.
00:37:37.43\00:37:39.58
So that's kind of an
unusual thing isn't it,
00:37:39.61\00:37:42.56
100% pledges and 100% paid off
00:37:42.59\00:37:45.29
and what it's
amazing, really it is.
00:37:45.32\00:37:46.52
I think it sort of
really amazing about it,
00:37:46.55\00:37:48.55
is it's total lay led church.
00:37:48.58\00:37:50.43
We have no pastor assigned
00:37:50.46\00:37:52.44
to the church
from the conference,
00:37:52.47\00:37:53.61
everyone there
has a paid position.
00:37:53.64\00:37:56.36
They're paid job
that they go and do,
00:37:56.39\00:37:58.25
but then all of our,
every thing in the church
00:37:58.28\00:38:00.39
is all done by the lay members.
00:38:00.42\00:38:01.78
Right now we
have about 170 members
00:38:01.81\00:38:04.16
attending the church.
00:38:04.19\00:38:05.40
Okay, let me get it straight,
you are not a pastor. No.
00:38:05.43\00:38:09.36
But you-what do they call
in now that missional pastor.
00:38:09.39\00:38:12.80
In Georgia-Cumberland Conference
they call him missional pastor.
00:38:12.83\00:38:15.56
Okay, and you have
had a formal training
00:38:15.59\00:38:18.33
in that though. No.
00:38:18.36\00:38:19.75
Bible worker training?
00:38:19.78\00:38:21.79
Engineering and
business training.
00:38:21.82\00:38:23.48
So what you are is
willing to follow wherever God--
00:38:23.51\00:38:27.06
Yeah, I mean that's,
00:38:27.09\00:38:28.53
that's everybody
in the church. Yeah.
00:38:28.56\00:38:30.28
Everybody there,
we all have skills,
00:38:30.31\00:38:32.61
we bring it and you
know it's interesting
00:38:32.64\00:38:34.32
that this past
week, I was up here
00:38:34.35\00:38:35.97
and we needed
some work to get gone.
00:38:36.00\00:38:37.78
I just sent an email out
00:38:37.81\00:38:39.19
and I did that to
send a second email out.
00:38:39.22\00:38:40.93
And said, we
would need some help
00:38:40.96\00:38:42.09
with this
painting of the church.
00:38:42.12\00:38:43.86
Over 27 people showed up
to help with the painting.
00:38:43.89\00:38:47.17
Last week, we had some--
I mean we went door to door,
00:38:47.20\00:38:50.59
and we had like a 103 folks
00:38:50.62\00:38:52.54
that went out door
to door in East Ridge,
00:38:52.57\00:38:54.59
knocking the door
generating Bible studies.
00:38:54.62\00:38:56.82
Right now we have over 4,
00:38:56.85\00:38:58.13
no over 30 Bible
studies actively engaged
00:38:58.16\00:39:00.46
all being done by the
members of the church.
00:39:00.49\00:39:02.78
So it's just
people, giving time.
00:39:02.81\00:39:04.69
People made themselves available
00:39:04.72\00:39:06.83
and God just blessing
greatly there in East Ridge.
00:39:06.86\00:39:08.84
May be we should talk
about the Kurten family.
00:39:08.87\00:39:10.83
But it's just part of the DNA,
00:39:10.86\00:39:12.72
if somebody wants to
join the church. Amen.
00:39:12.75\00:39:14.91
The bar for the
church membership
00:39:14.94\00:39:17.56
in addition to believing,
00:39:17.59\00:39:18.62
what the
Seventh-day Adventist believe
00:39:18.65\00:39:19.70
is that you have to be
involved in the congregation.
00:39:19.73\00:39:23.09
And we are very
upfront with that,
00:39:23.12\00:39:24.68
you want to come and
be part of this church,
00:39:24.71\00:39:26.30
expect to be involved.
00:39:26.33\00:39:27.84
And it's really
exciting as Jay said to see,
00:39:27.87\00:39:30.16
everybody with full time jobs,
00:39:30.19\00:39:31.62
carrying the
responsibilities of the church.
00:39:31.65\00:39:33.14
So you are not
looking for people
00:39:33.17\00:39:34.37
who just want to occupy
00:39:34.40\00:39:35.57
the same 18 inches
of lumber every week.
00:39:35.60\00:39:37.34
You are interested in
people being involved in it.
00:39:37.37\00:39:39.47
Okay, tell us some stories.
00:39:39.50\00:39:40.72
So the third Sabbath,
that we are in the church
00:39:40.75\00:39:44.20
that we were first renting.
00:39:44.23\00:39:46.01
After church, we walked
down and people are talking
00:39:46.04\00:39:47.88
and this woman walked
up, her name is Laura.
00:39:47.91\00:39:49.91
She had a
couple of kids with her
00:39:49.94\00:39:50.97
and she said,
what's going on here,
00:39:51.00\00:39:52.85
is there a
wedding or is this church.
00:39:52.88\00:39:55.26
And we said, no,
actually this is a church.
00:39:55.29\00:39:57.20
And she would take her children
to the school right next door
00:39:57.23\00:40:00.92
for just to play
on the play ground
00:40:00.95\00:40:02.93
on Sabbath Saturday mornings.
00:40:02.96\00:40:04.91
And she said,
when I was a teenager,
00:40:04.94\00:40:07.25
I heard about the Sabbath.
00:40:07.28\00:40:09.09
And ever since that time
00:40:09.12\00:40:10.59
I've been looking for a
Sabbath keeping church to go to.
00:40:10.62\00:40:14.34
Third week we were there,
someone from the community
00:40:14.37\00:40:16.49
just works up,
walks up next Sabbath,
00:40:16.52\00:40:18.67
she was there with
her three children,
00:40:18.70\00:40:21.02
then her husband started coming,
00:40:21.05\00:40:22.74
and at this point, she's
been baptized, her husband
00:40:22.77\00:40:25.28
and the two older
children had been baptized
00:40:25.31\00:40:27.48
and are active
members in the church. Amen.
00:40:27.51\00:40:30.53
Here we have another individual,
00:40:30.56\00:40:32.19
and again there are so
many people from East Ridge
00:40:32.22\00:40:34.39
that are joining the church
are members of the church.
00:40:34.42\00:40:36.73
Another individual Matt,
he started attending with us
00:40:36.76\00:40:40.69
and did profession of
faith and joined the church,
00:40:40.72\00:40:44.77
has been there
recently attending
00:40:44.80\00:40:47.01
and he called me
earlier this week
00:40:47.04\00:40:49.35
and said he wanted to--
00:40:49.38\00:40:50.71
he's going to
enroll in the SALT program
00:40:50.74\00:40:52.66
at Southern Adventist University
00:40:52.69\00:40:54.45
and wants to become
active as a Bible worker.
00:40:54.48\00:40:57.17
He said, I was in
the mess of this church,
00:40:57.20\00:40:58.82
but now he's joined
the Adventist church,
00:40:58.85\00:41:00.38
he lives in East
Ridge, spent his--
00:41:00.41\00:41:02.76
mom and dad have been there
living there for over 30 years
00:41:02.79\00:41:05.35
so, again we are just really
growing there in East Ridge
00:41:05.38\00:41:08.35
with these folks
want to be involved.
00:41:08.38\00:41:10.30
Last word is,
anybody can really do this.
00:41:10.33\00:41:14.90
You don't have to be a pastor,
00:41:14.93\00:41:16.50
you don't have
to be an evangelist.
00:41:16.53\00:41:18.34
You can do this,
is that the last word.
00:41:18.37\00:41:20.95
And it's really a
matter of priorities.
00:41:20.98\00:41:22.80
As Jay and I were talking,
everybody in our group is busy,
00:41:22.83\00:41:26.31
but you do what you
really think is most important.
00:41:26.34\00:41:28.88
That's right. And, so
yes, people can be involved.
00:41:28.91\00:41:31.71
Gentleman thank you
for sharing with us--
00:41:31.74\00:41:32.84
Thank you for letting us share.
00:41:32.87\00:41:33.90
God is blessing
on you too. Thanks.
00:41:33.93\00:41:35.36
Lots of exciting members
00:41:40.71\00:41:42.33
and action stories
tonight, aren't there?
00:41:42.36\00:41:44.89
It's so good to be at
ASI, where we can talk about
00:41:44.92\00:41:47.05
what we are doing to
share Christ in the marketplace.
00:41:47.08\00:41:49.27
This evening I have with me,
00:41:49.30\00:41:50.49
Chuck Hegley who
is from Project Patch.
00:41:50.52\00:41:53.52
Now, Chuck, how long
have you've been involved
00:41:53.55\00:41:55.79
in the ministry
of Project Patch.
00:41:55.82\00:41:57.89
I've been working full
time at Project Patch since 19--
00:41:57.92\00:42:01.25
excuse me, 1994 is when I
married Tom Sanford's daughter,
00:42:01.28\00:42:05.03
but 2005 is when
finally God dragged me in
00:42:05.06\00:42:07.96
and I started
working there full time.
00:42:07.99\00:42:09.90
So you married into the family
and then God kind of sucked you
00:42:09.93\00:42:13.19
into the
ministry a bit at a time.
00:42:13.22\00:42:14.98
Exactly. Okay.
00:42:15.01\00:42:16.50
Tell us what is the
mission of Project Patch?
00:42:16.53\00:42:20.04
The mission, I like to
think the mission of God
00:42:20.07\00:42:23.25
that He's given Project Patch
is to restore trouble teens.
00:42:23.28\00:42:26.48
Those teens that are
falling through the cracks
00:42:26.51\00:42:28.39
and also to build
stronger families,
00:42:28.42\00:42:30.52
to really be that
protection for their teen.
00:42:30.55\00:42:33.78
Now we've heard about
Project Patch through the years
00:42:33.81\00:42:36.59
and tell us about the work
00:42:36.62\00:42:38.50
that you are
doing with the youth,
00:42:38.53\00:42:40.06
it's on your
Idaho campus, right.
00:42:40.09\00:42:41.96
Correct, since 1993, we've had
this beautiful campus in Idaho,
00:42:41.99\00:42:46.02
right on the Payette River,
just an amazing place for kids,
00:42:46.05\00:42:49.24
ages 12 through 18 come
and spent a year with us,
00:42:49.27\00:42:52.43
learn better ways
to manage their life
00:42:52.46\00:42:54.01
through group counseling,
individual counseling.
00:42:54.04\00:42:56.77
They attend in a
credited high school,
00:42:56.80\00:42:58.70
they do outdoor
therapy, indoor therapy,
00:42:58.73\00:43:00.94
they learn responsibility,
they learn to respect.
00:43:00.97\00:43:03.39
And over all that they learn
00:43:03.42\00:43:04.73
that God's got a
plan for their lives.
00:43:04.76\00:43:06.69
And so our chaplain and
staff work with them closely
00:43:06.72\00:43:08.95
to help them discover
that God loves them deeply
00:43:08.98\00:43:11.44
and that they can trust
him fully with their lives.
00:43:11.47\00:43:13.86
Wow, and so how
many young people
00:43:13.89\00:43:16.07
are you helping at a
time there at Project Patch?
00:43:16.10\00:43:18.73
We help 36 kids, 18 boys,
18 girls, kept separately.
00:43:18.76\00:43:25.00
So you keep them
separated there for a little bit
00:43:25.03\00:43:27.78
and but you help them
to mature in that process.
00:43:27.81\00:43:30.71
Now I know that Project Patch
00:43:30.74\00:43:33.24
just kind of launched
on another track here,
00:43:33.27\00:43:35.39
with the second part
of your mission statement
00:43:35.42\00:43:37.63
and that is not only
to help the troubled youth
00:43:37.66\00:43:40.26
but to help the whole family.
00:43:40.29\00:43:42.27
Tell us how God
has lead in that way?
00:43:42.30\00:43:44.54
It's been frustrating for years
00:43:44.57\00:43:46.06
to see a child
coming to our program
00:43:46.09\00:43:48.60
and to recognize
that we could have moved
00:43:48.63\00:43:50.52
back in their
lives a couple of years.
00:43:50.55\00:43:52.67
If we could have equipped
00:43:52.70\00:43:53.73
the family with
some basic skills,
00:43:53.76\00:43:55.21
or if we could've
given them some encouragement
00:43:55.24\00:43:57.53
to keep moving forward,
00:43:57.56\00:43:58.59
that they had been a good chance
00:43:58.62\00:43:59.77
that they wouldn't
have to go through this
00:43:59.80\00:44:01.03
self destroying relationship,
destroying behavior
00:44:01.06\00:44:03.44
that took him
to our youth ranch.
00:44:03.47\00:44:04.87
And so we long for a way to
get into their lives earlier
00:44:04.90\00:44:08.04
and God's given us
a chance to do that
00:44:08.07\00:44:09.65
through our family center.
00:44:09.68\00:44:11.20
Now you say a family center,
00:44:11.23\00:44:12.85
tell me a little
about this family center.
00:44:12.88\00:44:15.63
Five hundred acres,
about two hours, these-
00:44:15.66\00:44:18.32
Right, I think we've
some pictures, right?
00:44:18.35\00:44:19.89
Yeah, we've got some pictures
we're showing the background,
00:44:19.92\00:44:21.83
an amazing place, that just,
00:44:21.86\00:44:23.91
as you drive on to our campus,
it takes your breathe away,
00:44:23.94\00:44:26.96
that's the view of Mount
Adams, just a priceless view.
00:44:26.99\00:44:30.30
We tell people if this was
in other parts of the country,
00:44:30.33\00:44:32.56
it would be a national park.
00:44:32.59\00:44:34.32
We have a 70-foot
water fall in our property.
00:44:34.35\00:44:36.63
We've got canyon views.
00:44:36.66\00:44:38.86
We got a ropes course
at 10,000 square foot lodge
00:44:38.89\00:44:41.86
with meeting
rooms, private motel,
00:44:41.89\00:44:43.89
hotel type rooms
for the families.
00:44:43.92\00:44:46.11
We have four
cabins, we have RV size,
00:44:46.14\00:44:48.46
we have trails,
00:44:48.49\00:44:50.25
and most of all
we've got a place
00:44:50.28\00:44:51.70
that God has given us to
serve families that's safe,
00:44:51.73\00:44:55.69
that's beautiful and
that they can feel like
00:44:55.72\00:44:58.45
they can be themselves and grow.
00:44:58.48\00:45:01.85
So actually you
bring these families
00:45:01.88\00:45:03.35
into this relaxed
kind of a resort setting.
00:45:03.38\00:45:06.75
And tell us about what happens
00:45:06.78\00:45:08.54
when you bring a family in there
00:45:08.57\00:45:10.00
and how long are the
sessions and how do you do that?
00:45:10.03\00:45:13.20
Families are busy
and so we have about
00:45:13.23\00:45:15.97
four days with each family
00:45:16.00\00:45:18.37
to really give them as
much as encouragement as we can,
00:45:18.40\00:45:20.53
so we don't spend that time
with them, blaming each other,
00:45:20.56\00:45:23.15
we don't spend that
time with them looking back
00:45:23.18\00:45:25.07
and pointing at each other.
00:45:25.10\00:45:26.14
What we do is we
equip them with skills.
00:45:26.17\00:45:28.43
First of all, what are the
personalities in our family?
00:45:28.46\00:45:31.01
How are we the same,
how are we different.
00:45:31.04\00:45:33.22
Give them that information
how can we communicate better?
00:45:33.25\00:45:35.87
How can we communicate in ways
00:45:35.90\00:45:37.28
that really helps
to get understanding?
00:45:37.31\00:45:39.48
Once we learn
how to communicate,
00:45:39.51\00:45:40.73
how can we solve
some of our conflict?
00:45:40.76\00:45:43.65
And then most of all,
00:45:43.68\00:45:44.71
one of the most
important things families,
00:45:44.74\00:45:45.97
what do we value?
00:45:46.00\00:45:48.13
What are our
shared family values,
00:45:48.16\00:45:49.77
how do we protect these things?
00:45:49.80\00:45:52.05
And then what sort of things
00:45:52.08\00:45:53.36
can we encourage
the family to grow in
00:45:53.39\00:45:55.15
and it's not a
bunch of sitting around,
00:45:55.18\00:45:56.89
who wants to sit
around on a vacation.
00:45:56.92\00:45:59.09
It's ropes courses,
it's activities, it's playing
00:45:59.12\00:46:02.31
and families really
enjoy that process of learning.
00:46:02.34\00:46:05.43
So as you're bringing the
families into this setting
00:46:05.46\00:46:07.75
and they are spending
these four days with you.
00:46:07.78\00:46:10.41
About how many
families have you helped
00:46:10.44\00:46:12.77
in this kind of setting?
00:46:12.80\00:46:14.31
We just opened a
facility last summer,
00:46:14.34\00:46:16.60
which is one of those
things that we say, please God,
00:46:16.63\00:46:18.53
don't make us do
this during a recession.
00:46:18.56\00:46:20.86
And so it's been a
scary time to do it
00:46:20.89\00:46:22.26
but God's led families into us,
00:46:22.29\00:46:23.98
we've been able to
with a limited budget
00:46:24.01\00:46:26.26
for advertising we
have been able to help
00:46:26.29\00:46:27.84
about 20 families now.
00:46:27.87\00:46:29.87
And how many come at a time?
00:46:29.90\00:46:31.71
We can, house,
we've got 8 motel rooms
00:46:31.74\00:46:34.46
we got another 4 cabins
00:46:34.49\00:46:36.33
and most sessions
are about 4 to 7 families
00:46:36.36\00:46:38.51
depending on the
size of the family.
00:46:38.54\00:46:40.11
And not only there,
00:46:40.14\00:46:41.20
and the family
interacting with each other
00:46:41.23\00:46:42.82
but they are interacting
between families as well.
00:46:42.85\00:46:45.68
You know one of the
things that Satan does is,
00:46:45.71\00:46:47.63
he isolates families.
00:46:47.66\00:46:49.28
He makes them feel like
they are the only family
00:46:49.31\00:46:51.22
that doesn't quite feel close.
00:46:51.25\00:46:53.26
They go to church
and they look around
00:46:53.29\00:46:54.63
and all the other
families have it together
00:46:54.66\00:46:56.34
but their family
tends to argue and fight,
00:46:56.37\00:46:58.89
their family
can't even figure out,
00:46:58.92\00:47:00.25
where to go to eat
without having this trauma.
00:47:00.28\00:47:03.61
And so having families together,
00:47:03.64\00:47:05.14
they share that experience,
00:47:05.17\00:47:06.33
know that they can struggle
with some of the same things,
00:47:06.36\00:47:08.31
it's just an
amazing gift to them.
00:47:08.34\00:47:10.89
And so we have the parents
together part of the time,
00:47:10.92\00:47:12.66
we have the kids
together part of the time,
00:47:12.69\00:47:14.60
and they discover
that they're not alone
00:47:14.63\00:47:16.54
and most of all they know that
00:47:16.57\00:47:17.91
God isn't
embarrassed about them,
00:47:17.94\00:47:19.73
He is willing to get into
their lives and help them.
00:47:19.76\00:47:22.83
Now I know that in the process
of helping these families,
00:47:22.86\00:47:25.63
you probably have a
few stories to share.
00:47:25.66\00:47:27.74
Share with us a story
about a family that has come
00:47:27.77\00:47:30.65
and somehow their life has been
00:47:30.68\00:47:32.46
really impacted by being there.
00:47:32.49\00:47:34.77
Yeah, we had a family that
just didn't quite feel close.
00:47:34.80\00:47:38.28
They were going to
transition of kids getting older
00:47:38.31\00:47:40.54
and they knew
that they're having
00:47:40.57\00:47:41.61
a few more
fights than they wanted,
00:47:41.64\00:47:42.93
that they were
struggling finding unity.
00:47:42.96\00:47:45.15
And so they came to our site
00:47:45.18\00:47:47.37
and over those 4
days they had with us,
00:47:47.40\00:47:51.47
their daughter
who is a teenager,
00:47:51.50\00:47:53.79
felt safer and safer and
safer and finally revealed
00:47:53.82\00:47:56.77
that she'd been
actively planning her suicide.
00:47:56.80\00:47:58.93
Oh, wow.
00:47:58.96\00:47:59.99
On the outside she
was smiles and calmness
00:48:00.02\00:48:02.11
but on the inside
there was incredible pain.
00:48:02.14\00:48:05.78
And the neat thing about it was,
00:48:05.81\00:48:07.08
with our
therapist that are on staff
00:48:07.11\00:48:08.55
and with other
caring adults there,
00:48:08.58\00:48:10.34
they were able to get
her the help that she needs
00:48:10.37\00:48:11.91
and she is doing
great with her family now.
00:48:11.94\00:48:14.37
I imagine that family is
very grateful for the services
00:48:14.40\00:48:17.64
that you offer
there at Project Patch
00:48:17.67\00:48:19.78
and working with the families.
00:48:19.81\00:48:21.36
Exactly, and for us
we believe wholeheartedly
00:48:21.39\00:48:24.17
in John 10:10,
00:48:24.20\00:48:25.74
that there is a thief out there
00:48:25.77\00:48:26.96
to steal the
lives of young people
00:48:26.99\00:48:28.37
that destroy families
and for us the privilege
00:48:28.40\00:48:30.92
of seeing abundant
life where there was before
00:48:30.95\00:48:33.07
only loss is
amazing gift for us.
00:48:33.10\00:48:36.68
May be there is a
family here tonight
00:48:36.71\00:48:38.05
that needs to contact you
00:48:38.08\00:48:39.17
for your services
or knows a family.
00:48:39.20\00:48:41.42
What's your booth number?
00:48:41.45\00:48:42.48
Yeah, our booth number is 549
00:48:42.51\00:48:44.45
or you can find
us on our website
00:48:44.48\00:48:45.82
which is www.projectpatch.org.
00:48:45.85\00:48:48.91
I want you to be
convinced tonight
00:48:48.94\00:48:50.85
that God cares deeply for you
and your families and your kids.
00:48:50.88\00:48:54.40
He's chasing with
a relentless heart
00:48:54.43\00:48:56.84
to bring healing and
that as Patch we will do
00:48:56.87\00:48:59.64
what we can to serve and it
is our privilege to do that.
00:48:59.67\00:49:03.51
Thank you for
being with us tonight.
00:49:03.54\00:49:04.85
Thank you. I appreciate it.
00:49:04.88\00:49:07.96
Our next interview this evening
00:49:07.99\00:49:09.48
from members in
action is the Rodgers family,
00:49:09.51\00:49:15.34
Cary and Elene Rodgers,
00:49:15.37\00:49:18.25
coming to us
from North Carolina.
00:49:18.28\00:49:21.69
Now, Cary and
Elene have a ministry,
00:49:21.72\00:49:24.61
that is called Pathway to Peace.
00:49:24.64\00:49:28.08
Now Pathway to Peace has been
in existence for a few years,
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Cary, how long have
you been in ministry?
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I've been in
ministry for 10 years now
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full time and I'm
loving it. Praise the Lord.
00:49:34.51\00:49:36.62
How did God get you
into ministry anyway?
00:49:36.65\00:49:39.34
I mean it's a long
story, it goes out of tragedy.
00:49:39.37\00:49:41.33
We lost a loved one of ours,
actually we had still birth
00:49:41.36\00:49:45.38
and Lord actually
got us into radio,
00:49:45.41\00:49:47.94
because we want to
give back to the Lord.
00:49:47.97\00:49:50.22
So we say, Lord, we want
to do 10 programs for you
00:49:50.25\00:49:52.40
and then actually
lead from 10 programs
00:49:52.43\00:49:54.39
to actually going on
to 30 radio stations.
00:49:54.42\00:49:57.72
So God used
your personal tragedy
00:49:57.75\00:50:00.32
to help heal other people
00:50:00.35\00:50:02.27
and in the process
brought you some healing.
00:50:02.30\00:50:04.08
I would get Bible studies,
00:50:04.11\00:50:05.45
testimonies and
things like that.
00:50:05.48\00:50:07.20
It's amazing how God
works, isn't it? Amen.
00:50:07.23\00:50:09.59
That's what Isaiah 58 says,
00:50:09.62\00:50:11.71
"As we help others,
God uses that to help us."
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Amen, amen.
00:50:14.22\00:50:15.25
Well, we can
testify to that, can't we?
00:50:15.28\00:50:17.43
So you've been involved in
ministry for about 10 years,
00:50:17.46\00:50:19.84
but God didn't leave you
00:50:19.87\00:50:21.01
just with dabbling
in radio a little bit.
00:50:21.04\00:50:23.41
Tell us how, what happened?
00:50:23.44\00:50:24.58
It's amazing because
God expanded the vision.
00:50:24.61\00:50:27.13
We did radio for a while
00:50:27.16\00:50:28.37
and then Lord made
it very clear to me,
00:50:28.40\00:50:29.97
I said, one day
I was out walking,
00:50:30.00\00:50:31.67
I said, Lord, I want
to be part of the 144,000.
00:50:31.70\00:50:34.25
I want to see you
when you come. Amen.
00:50:34.28\00:50:36.48
And he said,
something that surprised me.
00:50:36.51\00:50:38.71
He said, Cary you need
to get your health right.
00:50:38.74\00:50:40.77
I said what? I said
Lord, I am a vegetarian.
00:50:40.80\00:50:44.28
But then I eat
chips and junk food
00:50:44.31\00:50:47.87
and things like that and
I literally fell on my knees
00:50:47.90\00:50:49.81
I said, Lord I don't
know how to do it, teach me.
00:50:49.84\00:50:52.58
And two days
later, the Lord got me
00:50:52.61\00:50:54.82
to a program at the
church, I didn't know it existed
00:50:54.85\00:50:57.92
but at the church the
pastor talk about health
00:50:57.95\00:50:59.86
and how we can get
healthy and things like that
00:50:59.89\00:51:01.81
and taught us about
the plant based diet.
00:51:01.84\00:51:04.69
And I also lost a lot of weight
00:51:04.72\00:51:05.84
and the Lord did some
amazing things with that.
00:51:05.87\00:51:08.55
So God is leading you now,
He takes you through this radio
00:51:08.58\00:51:12.94
and tuning up your
health and-- Right.
00:51:12.97\00:51:15.51
And step-- the next step?
00:51:15.54\00:51:17.38
The next step, after
we expanded the radio,
00:51:17.41\00:51:19.99
the Lord said, now I want you
00:51:20.02\00:51:21.15
to add the health
ministry to your ministry.
00:51:21.18\00:51:24.31
The Bible and health,
that's effective ministry.
00:51:24.34\00:51:26.08
So God gets you
healthy and then He said,
00:51:26.11\00:51:27.78
now I want you to
minister to others.
00:51:27.81\00:51:28.86
Exactly. Amen.
00:51:28.89\00:51:30.14
But the amazing
thing as He said,
00:51:30.17\00:51:31.36
I want you to start a
lifestyle health retreat,
00:51:31.39\00:51:33.68
and I want you to also
to start a college of Bible
00:51:33.71\00:51:35.92
and health evangelism.
00:51:35.95\00:51:37.31
And I said, wow,
this is a big plan
00:51:37.34\00:51:38.74
and at that time, we didn't
have much resources at all.
00:51:38.77\00:51:41.33
We are staying in a one bedroom
00:51:41.36\00:51:45.44
actually, my
whole family at a time,
00:51:45.47\00:51:47.25
because most of the money
went to the radio stations
00:51:47.28\00:51:49.93
and God gave us
the vision to do this,
00:51:49.96\00:51:53.10
and I said, okay
Lord, let's just do it,
00:51:53.13\00:51:54.61
I've just learned to say yes.
00:51:54.64\00:51:56.66
And so God took your humbleness
00:51:56.69\00:51:59.68
and said we're going to
do something. That's right.
00:51:59.71\00:52:02.00
So what has He done with that?
00:52:02.03\00:52:03.22
Well, He actually did it.
00:52:03.25\00:52:04.48
I mean, we
actually went from Michigan,
00:52:04.51\00:52:06.10
we were on mission at the
time and actually he sent us
00:52:06.13\00:52:08.44
all the way down
to North Carolina.
00:52:08.47\00:52:10.90
And to just land there,
00:52:10.93\00:52:12.52
he said, I just want
to send you to this place.
00:52:12.55\00:52:15.03
We landed not knowing
00:52:15.06\00:52:16.44
he said, I want you
to get lifestyle center,
00:52:16.47\00:52:18.27
that takes
property, it takes land,
00:52:18.30\00:52:20.07
but he said I want
you to get started.
00:52:20.10\00:52:21.20
So we just packed our
car, drove down there,
00:52:21.23\00:52:24.56
he opened up a
place for an apartment,
00:52:24.59\00:52:26.48
and as soon as we got
there about a few weeks later,
00:52:26.51\00:52:28.98
the Lord opened up doors,
00:52:29.01\00:52:31.25
we can actually
minister to children,
00:52:31.28\00:52:32.97
with Bible and health.
00:52:33.00\00:52:34.12
And then we were able to
minister to various churches
00:52:34.15\00:52:36.37
in there with Bible and health,
00:52:36.40\00:52:37.50
and I didn't know a whole lot
but I just knew a little bit,
00:52:37.53\00:52:40.13
what I've learned in the
past about the NEWSTART program
00:52:40.16\00:52:43.69
and I implemented
that NEWSTART program
00:52:43.72\00:52:45.33
and people were, it
was to change thier lives,
00:52:45.36\00:52:47.36
there's change in my life.
00:52:47.39\00:52:48.62
So then God gave you
some property to go with that.
00:52:48.65\00:52:51.92
It wasn't that, but
the story is a long story
00:52:51.95\00:52:56.39
but the Lord did
it, matter of fact,
00:52:56.42\00:52:58.02
we got there
about two years later,
00:52:58.05\00:52:59.37
he opened up the way
for a 40-acres of property
00:52:59.40\00:53:02.05
with two houses
and a cabin on it
00:53:02.08\00:53:04.42
with a beautiful
lake pond there in it.
00:53:04.45\00:53:07.51
And that's the
amazing story in itself
00:53:07.54\00:53:09.23
but don't have
time to go through it.
00:53:09.26\00:53:10.76
You come to our
booth if you want to come
00:53:10.79\00:53:12.46
and listen about that
story but it's amazing
00:53:12.49\00:53:15.15
because I could tell you
God is real in His last days,
00:53:15.18\00:53:18.14
no doubt about it.
00:53:18.17\00:53:19.25
And I am nobody special at all.
00:53:19.28\00:53:21.26
I am just a regular
plain old lay person.
00:53:21.29\00:53:24.84
But you are willing
to step out in faith.
00:53:24.87\00:53:26.82
I have to, if God says
do it, we got to do it.
00:53:26.85\00:53:29.03
So you have this
lifestyle center now
00:53:29.06\00:53:31.81
in this property
that God has supplied
00:53:31.84\00:53:34.04
and you're ministering there.
00:53:34.07\00:53:35.71
And I know that
during this process,
00:53:35.74\00:53:37.78
lives are being changed. Amen.
00:53:37.81\00:53:40.00
We have a few stories tonight,
00:53:40.03\00:53:41.89
just a little testimony about
how lives are being changed,
00:53:41.92\00:53:44.10
we're going to play that now,
00:53:44.13\00:53:45.45
and just watch and
see the testimonies
00:53:45.48\00:53:47.60
that lives are
being affected. Amen.
00:53:47.63\00:53:49.44
I got to learn
how to cook God's way,
00:53:52.55\00:53:56.34
using seeds, nuts,
berries, fresh vegetables
00:53:56.37\00:54:01.43
and fruits, healthy
eating and I just loved it.
00:54:01.46\00:54:05.65
Got to learn some new recipes,
00:54:05.68\00:54:07.99
so I'm excited to
take some of those home.
00:54:08.02\00:54:09.64
How do you feel? I feel great.
00:54:09.67\00:54:12.34
I feel like I'm
on the way to return.
00:54:12.37\00:54:15.76
I've lost 45 pounds.
00:54:15.79\00:54:18.47
We really thoroughly enjoyed it.
00:54:18.50\00:54:21.11
And if you can come,
00:54:21.14\00:54:22.34
and tell some ideas
and tell them to come
00:54:22.37\00:54:24.11
because this is a
life changing experience.
00:54:24.14\00:54:25.85
I never realized that the things
that I was eating as I did,
00:54:25.88\00:54:29.42
that was killing
me and making me sick.
00:54:29.45\00:54:31.87
This experience, this week,
00:54:31.90\00:54:33.83
I guess we could
call it a retreat
00:54:33.86\00:54:35.70
has changed our lives forever.
00:54:35.73\00:54:37.96
A new start, new beginning.
00:54:37.99\00:54:39.72
And this was a
new beginning for us.
00:54:39.75\00:54:42.24
Why are you so good?
00:54:42.27\00:54:44.00
Well, I just got healthy
food and we learn about Jesus.
00:54:44.03\00:54:50.39
Oh, man he said it right,
00:54:50.42\00:54:51.64
healthy food and
learn about Jesus.
00:54:51.67\00:54:53.75
And the summer camp has
been about the Ten Commandments,
00:54:53.78\00:54:55.80
have you learned
anything. Yes I have.
00:54:55.83\00:54:58.41
Why don't you
tell some of the things
00:54:58.44\00:54:59.47
that you've learned.
00:54:59.50\00:55:00.68
I learned about how you should
00:55:00.71\00:55:04.02
control your
anger and worship God.
00:55:04.05\00:55:07.18
And why you
like your Bible class
00:55:07.21\00:55:08.41
so much, why
you like it so much.
00:55:08.44\00:55:09.62
Because they teach
about Jesus and what is sin?
00:55:09.65\00:55:14.10
Right, so, what is sin?
00:55:14.13\00:55:15.68
Sin is God's,
flesh breaking God's law.
00:55:15.71\00:55:20.12
There you guess they're learning
something, kids learning.
00:55:20.15\00:55:22.16
You gonna come out
a all around ministry.
00:55:22.19\00:55:25.24
You got to know how
to develop industry.
00:55:25.27\00:55:27.55
You gonna learn how
to work in the industry.
00:55:27.58\00:55:29.75
You gonna learn
how to set up churches.
00:55:29.78\00:55:32.40
You gonna learn how to
do evangelistic meetings
00:55:32.43\00:55:35.62
and to do Bible work.
00:55:35.65\00:55:37.16
You will learn a
whole lot of things.
00:55:37.19\00:55:38.95
What I'm gonna to
do with the things
00:55:38.98\00:55:40.71
I've learned here
at Pathway to Peace is
00:55:40.74\00:55:43.71
take it to the community,
take it to the dark counties,
00:55:43.74\00:55:48.55
preach teaching and heal,
00:55:48.58\00:55:50.21
effectively the
gospel of Jesus Christ.
00:55:50.24\00:55:54.52
So exciting
things are happening,
00:55:54.55\00:55:56.84
their lives are being changed,
00:55:56.87\00:55:58.64
I know ministry doesn't
happen in the vacuum though,
00:55:58.67\00:56:01.07
and that the
ministry still has projects
00:56:01.10\00:56:02.88
and things going on in needs.
00:56:02.91\00:56:05.64
Elene, tell us about
what's happening right now?
00:56:05.67\00:56:08.46
Our greatest need right now is
00:56:08.49\00:56:10.15
more of the Holy
Spirit's power to do His work
00:56:10.18\00:56:12.81
because it's for His
glory and He does do it.
00:56:12.84\00:56:15.52
We just completed
00:56:15.55\00:56:16.72
a preliminary copy
of the Ten Commandments
00:56:16.75\00:56:19.28
and a scripture
children scripture songs.
00:56:19.31\00:56:21.22
We were looking for
children scripture songs
00:56:21.25\00:56:23.93
for our own kids,
00:56:23.96\00:56:24.99
something that was of
the King James Version
00:56:25.02\00:56:27.02
directly verbatim from the Bible
00:56:27.05\00:56:28.54
and we couldn't find
something that we really like,
00:56:28.57\00:56:30.29
but the Lord,
said well you do it.
00:56:30.32\00:56:32.58
And the Holy Spirit worked
through us to do this project.
00:56:32.61\00:56:37.80
Do you your
booth here at ASI? Yes.
00:56:37.83\00:56:39.55
what's your number? 1026.
00:56:39.58\00:56:41.79
Come see this
folks at booth 1026
00:56:41.82\00:56:43.79
and enjoy some
more of that story.
00:56:43.82\00:56:45.89
Thank you tonight. Thank you.
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