Amen.
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Oh, good evening, ASI.
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Now that's what
I'm used to. Thank you.
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It's really nice to be
here at another ASI convention.
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Tonight we started
journey, a journey to discover
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how God is using
your sacrificial offerings
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to further His Word
and hasten His soon coming.
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So we're gonna learn a
little bit tonight about
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a couple of the ministries
that are in your booklet.
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And tonight standing beside me
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is Chance from
the NAPS organization.
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Chance, tell me what,
what is NAPS stand for?
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Well, NAPS stands for
the National Association
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for the
Prevention of Starvation,
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not only physical starvation
but also spiritual starvation.
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So we're a group of
students, voluntary missionaries
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from Oakwood University
in Huntsville, Alabama.
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Now we go around the world,
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we do a lot of
medical relief program,
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we do evangelism program
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and especially
in Southern Africa
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also in the United
States and of course on Friday
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we talk more a little
bit on some of the work
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that have been doing
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with the Youth of
Jesus program over the years.
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Now, you're going to be doing
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something a
little bit different than
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what you've done in the past
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with this particular project.
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Tell us a little bit about that.
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Well, this is a project
that we really appreciate ASI
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for partnering
with us about its called
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The Good Life Wellness
Center and this is gonna be
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a missionary
outpost center as well
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where we provide for you know,
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people who are in
the south of Alabama,
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we'll call it Deep
South or the Black Belt,
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you know, these are
some of the poorest counties
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in all of the United States.
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They lead the
nation in health problems
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also education
is among the lowest
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in all of the
whole United States.
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And so we want to be able
to do something about that.
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How is that you came to
this particular places that
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in you said Sawyerville
is where it's located?
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How did you
identify that city as well?
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Well, actually that
was very interested.
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At our annual board meeting
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Pastor Humphrey,
Auldwin Humphrey,
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he is actually the
chairman of the NAPS board
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and also he served on
the South Central Conference
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as the executive secretary.
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And so he's been challenging us
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you know, in
school he did some project
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on the southern work
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which is Ellen
White's commission for us
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to reach you know, in the south.
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And so we had
kind of neglected it
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for a little bit
and then you know,
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about eight months ago
Dr. Paul in a staff meeting
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we're like, you know what guys,
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let's just start, let's
make us start somewhere.
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And so that's
where the journey began
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and here we are now
to where we are today.
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So you're
starting in Sawyerville
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and so what is happening there?
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Well, it's exciting
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what's going on in
Sawyerville right now.
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Every week NAPS
group goes to the area,
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we work there, we do a
lot of health programs,
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so right now we
meet in the needs
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of the community
there but however,
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each Sunday the students there,
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all of the NAPS students
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who volunteer on
that particular week
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and they will go down
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and they build,
they build this building,
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we're gonna see some
pictures in a little bit
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but they do a lot of building,
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they meet the
needs of the community.
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There's a lady
there called Mrs. Queenie,
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they help her you know,
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in health
reduction issues, helping her
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to also get more
physically fit and so forth.
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So that was just a entry point
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where we're meeting
the needs of the community,
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assessing what's going on.
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And so there's
another clinic also
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which is about 45
minutes from Sawyerville
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in Gainesville
and that clinic there,
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Dr. Mala Hardnett, every Friday,
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she takes time off of
her busy practice as a doctor
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and she goes
through the community there
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and she provides
free medical care
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to those in the community.
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So the emphasis there would be
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as we're meeting the
needs of those area there,
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once their lifestyle center
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becomes active
we're going to be able
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to have those people bridge
over into the wellness center.
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Now how did you find
the location in Gainesville?
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That location
actually came about
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because there's a federation,
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there we call the Federation
of Southern Cooperatives,
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this been there for many years
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so it's like a community group
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where farmers came
together back in the today
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and so this building had--
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it hasn't been
used for about 40 years
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and so as Dr. Paul
was going into the area
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and so forth, we're able to
negotiate our work with them
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and help them
repair the building
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and bring it up to speed
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and so that's where we
use the building every Friday.
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So you're collaborating
with community entities
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to server the community?
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That's exactly right.
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Exciting, that's
really wonderful.
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Now, tell me a little
bit about the students
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who were in school
and coming down on days
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that they should be studying
to do things for the community.
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How does that work?
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Well, that's one of the things
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I love about
NAPS is the commitment
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of our volunteer
student missionaries.
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So these are
people who are committed
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they already in
classes and so forth
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but yet they are so
committed that every weekend
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they just take
the time off to go.
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And what we've noticed that
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they really don't get
behind in their studies
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and matter of fact some of them
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once they start
working and serving others
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we find that some of
their grades even go up.
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And there's a particular
group of people called,
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we call them the YOD
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which is the Year
of Dedication that
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students take a
year off of their studies
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and they go out
and serve the Lord
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in the United States
and then they go overseas
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for a spring
break mission as well.
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And some of them,
they're even here tonight.
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So let's take a look at
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what kind of
progress has been made so far.
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Well, if you
look at the pictures
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this is how it came about.
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We have been blessed to
have 110 acres in the area
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and it's fully paid for,
we thank the Lord for that.
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And these are
some of the young men
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as you can see
here on the screen
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that they are actually
helping to clear the land
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and next picture
you will see that
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you know, these are the boards,
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the material that we
were able to purchase,
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other people give
their donations and help.
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And you can see
again NAPS young men
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are going in to the
area, these are two young men
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who are very
powerful in this project here.
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We have David Moise and
we have also Wilson Henry,
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he's a theology major
but he's actually the one
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who has been
there with the pluming
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and these young men,
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they learn to do all
of this work themselves.
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So they do the
pluming, the electrical work
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in that area as well.
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Actually the year before
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they were on the
Year of Dedication
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team number seven,
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so Dr. Paul
actually encouraged them,
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motivated them to learn
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how to do pluming
and wiring and so forth.
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Next picture, as you can see
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this is the building here,
it's over 6,000 square feet
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and so this is
just the starting.
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We're gonna be doing
evangelism program here as well
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where we train self
supporting medical missionary,
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even bring in maybe
some people from Africa over
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so they can be
able to get trained
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and go back out and share.
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And this is the last picture,
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it's already up to
the roof all summer,
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the young men have been
laboring diligently in the area
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where its hot, it's
very, very hot in the area
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but they've been laboring there
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doing a lot of
work trying to get us.
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So now all we have to do now
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for this
upcoming school term now
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is to work on the interior with
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you know, the
pluming, electrical
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and other things like that.
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That's really
exciting. Thank you.
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I'm so glad that
we have opportunity
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to advance the cause,
the work through NAPS.
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Thank you very much, Chance.
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And just one
thing, if you want to hear
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more about NAPS you can come
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to the booth number
923 and also visit us
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online napsoc.org, thank you.
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Thank you.
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Coming to join me now is
a person with the same name
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as someone you heard before.
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Jason, well, not
part of the name.
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Jason Fournier, Jason is the son
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of Frank Fournier our president.
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And Jason, conducts
his work in his ministry
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in Africa at
Kibidula, where is it located
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and exactly
what is it all about?
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Kibidula is in the
eastern part of Africa
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in the country of Tanzania
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which is about half
way or just below Kenya.
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And what do you do there?
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What's your role there?
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I'm the director of Kibidula
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and basically I
oversee everything
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that goes on at the place.
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So you receive all the
blame and all the credit?
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I guess so.
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So what kind of
services or programs
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do you provide at Kibidula?
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Well, at Kibidula we have
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several different
programs going on.
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We have a primary
school with about 90 children
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learning all the
subjects in English
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and we also have a
school of agriculture
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which is for children
who dropped out of school,
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they then come to our
place for a two year course
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and in that course
we then teach them,
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basically the basics of life,
tools to have a successful life
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and also the goal is to
reach them with the gospel.
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So we're reaching them
with, yeah, the gospel and--
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Kind of helping them
through the education
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of agriculture and
those different tools.
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And carpentry and
sowing and English
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and as many things
as we can give them
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to have a successful life.
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So and they don't
just walk away with tools,
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they walk away with the gospel
and some of those individuals
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have actually given their
lives to Christ in baptism?
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Actually,
almost all are students
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every year end
up being baptized.
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Oh, praise the Lord.
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And so you have another school,
the school of evangelism.
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That's correct.
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We run a school of
evangelism, two sessions a year,
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we have four months each session
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where we get students
from all over Tanzania
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and they learn principles
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or methods in
spreading the gospel
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and reaching souls for Christ.
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And you mentioned that
there are lot of baptisms
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and so what
number of baptisms occur
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like every year for instance?
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We have at least
300 baptisms every year
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as a result of our work
or outreach at Kibidula.
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Oh, praise the
God. That's wonderful.
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Let's see, you
also talked to me about,
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you actually you're
in the print work, too.
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What do you do in publishing?
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Well, we don't
print books ourselves
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but we translate
books into Swahili
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and we also have books
written by Swahili authors
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and they-- well,
after the editing process
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we send the books to
Korea to be translated
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and then we import
container loads full
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of Swahili books to sell
through the colporteur system.
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So our books are actually sold
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by all the
colporteurs around Tanzania.
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And you said that,
so this work at Kibidula
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with the literature
is actually more than
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what the church provides or--
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Well, we work in
conjunction with the church
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but we produce
probably a major portion
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or at least half of
all the Swahili books
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that are sold in
Tanzania, the Adventist books.
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Now you are also
partnering with another ministry
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and that happens
that has been supported
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and it is supported by
ASI, the one day church.
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You've built a couple of
churches there in Tanzania.
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At Kibidula we've been blessed
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to be a recipient of
the one day church program
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and we've built,
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I think up-to-date
close to 200 churches.
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Two hundred
churches, just from your staff
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at Kibidula and
other volunteers?
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Yes, just our group at
Kibidula going out and building.
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That's incredible.
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Thank you so much
for that effort there.
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And we'll be hearing a lot
more about the one day church
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and more one day structures
later in this weekend.
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Tell me a little bit
about a particular vegetable.
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I understand that
you're into guacamole.
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We're just about up
to our necks in guacamole
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if you want to say.
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At Kibidula the soil is
not very good for most crops
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but we found over the
years of trailing there
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one thing that grows
excellent is avocados.
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So we are in the process
of growing or making orchids
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of avocados with
intend that they will support
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the work of the
gospel in Tanzania.
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Okay, wonderful.
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And this is I think,
where our offerings come in
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because in order
to work those fields
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you explain to me it's
a pretty tedious process
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to work on avocado plants.
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Well, up to now we've
done all the work by hands.
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We've about 1,000
trees planted so far
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and you know dig the holes
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and now we have to do
all the mowing the orchids
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and we're planting more orchids
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and it's growing
beyond our capacity
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to be able to do
everything just by hand.
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So with our help we can
get a tractor for Kibidula.
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That's right.
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Actually last year's offering
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provided the money for a tractor
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and it was shipped
beginning of this year
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and arrived
recently at Kibidula.
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Oh, wonderful.
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And that's a
picture of the tractor
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actually mowing between
the avocado trees at Kibidula.
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Now you talk to
me a little bit about
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some of the individuals
who are baptized as a result.
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Well, it's just a short story.
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Recently I was speaking
with one of our missionaries
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who, I forgot to mention
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we have about 30
some lay missionaries
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doing work in
un-entered areas of Tanzania,
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many of these are Muslim areas
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and the one of our missionaries
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they baptized the
daughter of a Muslim
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and the father was so
angered by that, that he came
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and attacked our
missionary with a machete
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with the
intention of killing him.
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Fortunately the
weather was cool,
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he was wearing a big coat
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and I think with
the blessing of God
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when the machete hit
him the coat saved him
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and he was actually
not seriously injured
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and so the Lord
blessed him like that, yeah.
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Well, we were so grateful
for the blessings of the Lord
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and His protection.
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And thank you for
what Kibidula is doing
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to advance the gospel.
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You will find out
Kibidula's where you want to go.
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Thank you very much.
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This is the best part of ASI.
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And we have some more
for you, that's good news.
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I have with me
here Dr. Naren James
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and he is a medical professional
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who is doing gospel ministry.
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Actually he's not a pastor,
he's a medical physician.
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You have a practice in Kentucky
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and you operate,
what two clinics?
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Yeah, two clinics
called Bluegrass clinic.
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Okay, so you're very busy.
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Very busy.
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Okay, so how long
have you been in ASI?
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Twelve years now,
since the year 2000.
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Twelve years,
okay in those 12 years
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how has your
practice, medical practice
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changed to a
medical missionary practice?
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Well, ASI has been such
a fundamental part of that
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when I arrived here,
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you said, thinking of my
practice is my profession
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and church is something else.
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Over time having
come to ASI the seminars
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and the events have inspired me
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to look at my
practice differently.
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I look at patients differently.
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As children of God,
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they are to
receive message from Him,
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even as I minister
to their physical needs.
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Right.
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Now, you're very, very
busy and I've visited you
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and you are very busy and
having such a busy practice
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how can you find
the time to incorporate
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evangelism into your practice?
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It's just like you find a time
for two or three meals a day,
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however, you come
in, I mean you eat.
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Basically I make it a priority
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and so we make it a
priority, in our practice
00:19:04.45\00:19:06.73
we for the past 12 years
since we've been in practice
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we start with a devotional
time every Monday morning
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with all of our staff
that's totally volunteered
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but it's paid for
their time to come to it.
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And then of course we
find time to integrate prayer
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into our practice
with our patience.
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So it's very simple
but very straight forward.
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Okay, now you've
made a little video
00:19:21.66\00:19:24.85
to encourage other physicians
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to incorporate
evangelism into their practice.
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Yes.
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So maybe we can see that now.
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Excellent, let's look at it.
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Bluegrass Clinic,
my name is Naren James
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and I'm a family physician
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and medical
director of this clinic.
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Here at Bluegrass clinic
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we've taken
seriously the injunction
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of the mastered
great physician himself
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as he mentioned in John 10:10,
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"The thief comes to steal
and to kill or to destroy,
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but I've come that
they may have life,
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and have it more abundantly."
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We're also quite aware
that we are at the end of time
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and the end of time
only a few lines of work
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will be left standing
00:20:00.48\00:20:01.77
and one of those will
be medical missionary work
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and that'll involve
more than just trained
00:20:03.54\00:20:04.98
health professional
like myself or yourself,
00:20:05.01\00:20:07.49
He'll involve us
working along with pastors
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and lay members of the church
00:20:09.76\00:20:11.50
to achieve the ultimate goal
00:20:11.53\00:20:12.58
of helping each
individual to come
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to a saving personal
relationship with Jesus Christ.
00:20:14.90\00:20:18.26
The doctor came in
and give me my weight
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and I've said you
know, it has to change.
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He just didn't want to be
social around people too much.
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When I started the
health classes at the time
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I didn't think
that it would be for me.
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At one point I didn't
even care if I lived or died.
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I used boom to get
me through the day.
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Most of the time
they don't really want
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so much medical advice
as they want more emotional
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and spiritual advice,
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you find that
many of the problems
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that people deal with
have more of a spiritual basis.
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When he said about
Sabbath word of prayer
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it's kind of shock to me
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because I never,
never witnessed there.
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Dr. James has just brought
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his patients to
the meetings here.
00:21:06.90\00:21:08.83
So many of them,
almost all of the attendees,
00:21:08.86\00:21:11.81
the visitors who
come to the church here
00:21:11.84\00:21:14.81
are patients of Dr. James.
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We work together and
I think that's crucial.
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There is a bomb in Gilead,
there is a physician there.
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God has just gave His
ministry for the pastor
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as he does for the physician,
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that they must
come from the nature.
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Amen.
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Now, you know,
we know this council
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we've heard it before
and one other things that
00:21:43.45\00:21:45.15
you said was interesting is that
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the medical missionary work
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will be the last
work that we can do.
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So it's very important
00:21:50.89\00:21:51.94
for all the health
professionals to take that up.
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What advice would you give them
00:21:55.71\00:21:57.45
and how they can get started?
00:21:57.48\00:21:59.53
Well, health
professional certainly
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the Adventist
Medical Evangelism Network,
00:22:00.70\00:22:02.32
they have a booth
here in the 600 row,
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I don't remember the exact booth
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but beyond that of course
00:22:05.91\00:22:08.07
individual lay members in
the church can be trained up
00:22:08.10\00:22:10.17
by health professionals
to be a part of it, so--
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So you mean the ministry that
you're talking about is AMEN?
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That's right, Adventist
Medical Evangelism Network.
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Okay, and there
they can get resources
00:22:19.01\00:22:20.94
and training and videos
on how they can incorporate--
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Exactly, and we also
doing annual conference,
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we have a journal report out
called the medical evangelism.
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So they can
visit us at amensda.org
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Okay, wonderful.
Thank you so much.
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Thank you, Leasa.
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Next we have a very
unique ministry in our church
00:22:35.64\00:22:39.39
and I'd like to call up Jeff.
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Jeff, I worked with
him in Tampa, Florida.
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Jeff, what is
your unique ministry?
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Well I work with reaching
out to the Jewish people.
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Okay, and how do
you reach out to them?
00:22:52.55\00:22:54.94
We reach out in
various different ways.
00:22:54.97\00:22:56.94
We have unique literature
00:22:56.97\00:22:58.87
and we have unique
buildings, congregations
00:22:58.90\00:23:01.86
or house and buildings
that look like Jewish temples.
00:23:01.89\00:23:05.88
And the services inside
are also conducted in a way
00:23:05.91\00:23:09.24
that makes it
very Jewish friendly.
00:23:09.27\00:23:11.86
Okay, now you
brought some slides with you.
00:23:11.89\00:23:14.48
Okay, let's go through them.
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Okay.
00:23:15.66\00:23:17.25
The first one would
be some of the literature
00:23:17.28\00:23:19.05
that we have and
then the second one
00:23:19.08\00:23:23.84
is of one of the
buildings that we have
00:23:23.87\00:23:25.69
and so you can see it
looks like a synagogue
00:23:25.72\00:23:27.15
and there we are
celebrating Hanukkah.
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And then the
inside is, little bit
00:23:29.59\00:23:31.80
what the inside of that
particular synagogue looks like
00:23:31.83\00:23:34.31
and so our
services are again conducted
00:23:34.34\00:23:36.96
very much like a
traditional synagogue.
00:23:36.99\00:23:40.00
Okay.
00:23:40.03\00:23:41.06
Now, why-- what led
you to this ministry?
00:23:41.09\00:23:44.11
Well, there is
some wonderful quotes
00:23:44.14\00:23:45.86
one out of Acts the Apostles,
00:23:45.89\00:23:48.23
that says in the
closing proclamation,
00:23:48.26\00:23:51.33
"God expect His messengers
00:23:51.36\00:23:53.08
to take particular
interest in the Jewish people.
00:23:53.11\00:23:57.40
Among the Jewish people are
some who like Saul of Tarsus
00:23:57.43\00:24:01.34
and these will
proclaim with wonderful power,
00:24:01.37\00:24:04.08
the law of God.
00:24:04.11\00:24:05.82
We must make larger plans,
00:24:05.85\00:24:08.06
let there be
special efforts made
00:24:08.09\00:24:10.32
for the enlightenment
of the Jewish people
00:24:10.35\00:24:12.77
for among them the
Lord has mighty men
00:24:12.80\00:24:15.20
who'll proclaim
the truth with power."
00:24:15.23\00:24:16.82
Amen.
00:24:16.85\00:24:18.19
Now the special
effort that we're to make,
00:24:18.22\00:24:21.23
there is a right
way and a wrong way
00:24:21.26\00:24:23.98
and I work with you in
your Tampa ministry there,
00:24:24.01\00:24:29.18
when you know, we're interested
in following this council
00:24:29.21\00:24:32.69
but what is the mistake that
we as non-Jewish people make
00:24:32.72\00:24:37.59
when trying to out reach.
00:24:37.62\00:24:39.43
Right, often its
very eternal love
00:24:39.46\00:24:41.32
you know, people
have love for people
00:24:41.35\00:24:43.32
and want to help
people and share with them,
00:24:43.35\00:24:45.76
want to bless them,
00:24:45.79\00:24:47.46
the knowledge of
God and the Bible
00:24:47.49\00:24:49.61
but we often want to do it
00:24:49.64\00:24:50.89
in a way that is
comfortable to us
00:24:50.92\00:24:53.23
and bring them into our culture
00:24:53.26\00:24:54.91
and into our way
and the Jewish culture
00:24:54.94\00:24:57.95
although may not
recognize the Jewish person
00:24:57.98\00:25:00.85
from someone else out in America
00:25:00.88\00:25:03.30
but the culture is
still so much different,
00:25:03.33\00:25:05.57
especially when we get
into the religious circles.
00:25:05.60\00:25:08.02
And so the
terminology is different
00:25:08.05\00:25:10.01
and just so much
about it is different
00:25:10.04\00:25:12.51
that it's like a totally
different foreign language,
00:25:12.54\00:25:15.20
even though we'll speak English.
00:25:15.23\00:25:17.14
Okay, so if there's a wrong way,
00:25:17.17\00:25:18.62
then there is a right way.
00:25:18.65\00:25:19.72
Correct. So what
is the right way?
00:25:19.75\00:25:21.11
Well, the right way
00:25:21.14\00:25:22.19
is to get to know
some of the terminology
00:25:22.22\00:25:25.06
and some of the
culture issues that are helpful
00:25:25.09\00:25:27.71
and continue to
love and demonstrate love
00:25:27.74\00:25:31.29
and start with love
00:25:31.32\00:25:32.35
and start with to get
to theological issues,
00:25:32.38\00:25:35.57
talk on issues that are common
00:25:35.60\00:25:37.97
between us in the Jewish people
00:25:38.00\00:25:40.41
and relate in that
way, certain I hope--
00:25:40.44\00:25:42.41
I mean we could
do this whole seminar
00:25:42.44\00:25:44.08
and it's one of the
things we do, we go around
00:25:44.11\00:25:45.54
and give seminars at
congregations to share
00:25:45.57\00:25:48.26
and teach how to
share with Jewish people.
00:25:48.29\00:25:52.71
And that's one of the reasons
00:25:52.74\00:25:53.80
we have the congregations
in totally different format.
00:25:53.83\00:25:56.65
So as we bring them in
00:25:56.68\00:25:57.71
they are used to
that type of setting.
00:25:57.74\00:26:00.18
Okay, so do you
have resources that
00:26:00.21\00:26:02.17
we can find or
how can we find these?
00:26:02.20\00:26:05.54
Yeah, advent
source has produced a book
00:26:05.57\00:26:07.45
called Reaching and
Winning your Jewish Friends.
00:26:07.48\00:26:10.41
And that teaches
us how to interact--
00:26:10.44\00:26:13.48
The right terminology.
00:26:13.51\00:26:14.66
The right terminology--
The right motivation.
00:26:14.69\00:26:16.12
Right. That's right.
00:26:16.15\00:26:17.23
And to learn a little
bit about the traditions
00:26:17.26\00:26:18.99
and the lifecycles like
00:26:19.02\00:26:20.94
what type of gift
do I give to person
00:26:20.97\00:26:23.10
that I work with
that just had a child.
00:26:23.13\00:26:24.74
Okay.
00:26:24.77\00:26:25.81
Or what do I do if
their parent just died?
00:26:25.84\00:26:28.27
Or if their son's
having a bar mitzvah
00:26:28.30\00:26:29.91
or daughter is
having a bat mitzvah.
00:26:29.94\00:26:31.80
You know what will
be appropriate things
00:26:31.83\00:26:32.95
and that's all
covered in that book.
00:26:32.98\00:26:34.65
Okay, now you work at
the North American division.
00:26:34.68\00:26:36.76
Correct.
00:26:36.79\00:26:37.89
And what are you
doing within the division
00:26:37.92\00:26:40.01
and what are your future plans?
00:26:40.04\00:26:41.67
Well, in the division alone
we have over 20 congregations,
00:26:41.70\00:26:45.54
not all of them have
their own buildings yet.
00:26:45.57\00:26:48.31
But that we have
20 congregations,
00:26:48.34\00:26:50.32
we have Shalom Adventure
Magazine, it's a web magazine
00:26:50.35\00:26:55.37
which is designed to
again reach out to them
00:26:55.40\00:26:58.26
where they are in their homes
00:26:58.29\00:27:00.05
and to be able
to share with them
00:27:00.08\00:27:02.31
different
articles, religious articles
00:27:02.34\00:27:04.42
as well as common interests,
00:27:04.45\00:27:06.35
health and
archaeology in Israel.
00:27:06.38\00:27:10.37
And so that's developing
more, more to reach out to them
00:27:10.40\00:27:13.09
and reach them
where they are at.
00:27:13.12\00:27:14.28
Okay, now do you have
Bible study or set of studies
00:27:14.31\00:27:18.16
that we can get to
share with our friends?
00:27:18.19\00:27:20.87
Yes, we do have a
couple different studies.
00:27:20.90\00:27:22.22
We have Shema
Israel, it's a Bible study
00:27:22.25\00:27:24.66
and we have Jewish discoveries
which is a set of Bible studies
00:27:24.69\00:27:28.10
that also covers
the traditions in again,
00:27:28.13\00:27:32.66
their format
covers Bible doctrines
00:27:32.69\00:27:34.44
as we understand them
00:27:34.47\00:27:36.03
but does it in a
Jewish friendly way.
00:27:36.06\00:27:37.88
Okay, now those of us
00:27:37.91\00:27:39.12
who really want to
reach out to a Jewish friend
00:27:39.15\00:27:41.47
sometimes are intimidated
00:27:41.50\00:27:43.56
you know, because of lack
of knowledge for one thing
00:27:43.59\00:27:45.54
but also--
00:27:45.57\00:27:47.24
Because there is a perception
that it's very difficult.
00:27:47.27\00:27:52.71
Right, right.
00:27:52.74\00:27:53.81
And it's not so
difficult, its just different
00:27:53.84\00:27:55.53
and so just
learning the differences.
00:27:55.56\00:27:57.30
We also have a
ministry where we train people
00:27:57.33\00:27:59.10
to lead congregations
or working congregations
00:27:59.13\00:28:01.26
to Shalom learning center.
00:28:01.29\00:28:02.47
Okay, and where is that located?
00:28:02.50\00:28:04.97
It's actually, what
we do is the people come
00:28:05.00\00:28:07.58
and visit the
different congregations,
00:28:07.61\00:28:09.31
so it's kind of traveling
couple of different weekends
00:28:09.34\00:28:11.44
through out the year, you know,
00:28:11.47\00:28:12.60
it's like a home
study and continue that way.
00:28:12.63\00:28:14.06
So if we want you to
come and train at our church,
00:28:14.09\00:28:16.27
how do we contact you?
00:28:16.30\00:28:18.32
Well, I guess you can contact me
00:28:18.35\00:28:19.48
or and then I'll just
give the, and then I'll--
00:28:19.51\00:28:21.85
Okay, do you have a booth here?
00:28:21.88\00:28:23.19
We do have a
booth here. Yeah, 552.
00:28:23.22\00:28:25.65
Just go around the fifth aisle,
00:28:25.68\00:28:27.12
straight in the middle
all the way to the end,
00:28:27.15\00:28:28.62
we are at the end of the world.
00:28:28.65\00:28:30.15
We are at the very end,
right against the wall there.
00:28:30.18\00:28:32.12
So just come all
the way to the end
00:28:32.15\00:28:33.23
and we'll give you
the information on that.
00:28:33.26\00:28:34.77
Okay, wonderful.
00:28:34.80\00:28:36.35
Now, before we go,
00:28:36.38\00:28:38.01
do you have a testimony
that you can share with us?
00:28:38.04\00:28:39.94
I do, there is a lady
00:28:39.97\00:28:41.16
who just, just a few weeks ago,
00:28:41.19\00:28:43.98
she got little
dissatisfied with Jesus
00:28:44.01\00:28:47.82
and very active in their
congregation stuff with longing
00:28:47.85\00:28:49.90
for something more Holy
Spirit was working on her heart
00:28:49.93\00:28:52.57
and she, a friend
invited her to sing at church
00:28:52.60\00:28:56.82
and she went to
the church service
00:28:56.85\00:28:59.46
and was impressed and
the people are friendly
00:28:59.49\00:29:00.95
and all like
that but she's so long
00:29:00.98\00:29:02.10
for the
Jewishness of her culture
00:29:02.13\00:29:04.07
and so she found us online
00:29:04.10\00:29:05.47
and she began doing our
Bible studies on our webpage,
00:29:05.50\00:29:08.34
at jewishheritage.net
00:29:08.37\00:29:10.16
and then came to our service
00:29:10.19\00:29:12.71
and then that week
did the next Bible study
00:29:12.74\00:29:15.20
and accepted the Lord
00:29:15.23\00:29:16.83
and sent out an
email to all her friends.
00:29:16.86\00:29:20.01
On next thing
that we're working on
00:29:20.04\00:29:21.38
in reaching New York City,
00:29:21.41\00:29:23.34
with a division
that's going to focus on
00:29:23.37\00:29:24.92
New York City for 2013
00:29:24.95\00:29:27.04
so we want to start a
health ministry there.
00:29:27.07\00:29:29.33
We have a program coming
on 3ABN reaching your roots
00:29:29.36\00:29:32.29
or returning to your
roots, back to your roots.
00:29:32.32\00:29:34.28
Wonderful.
00:29:34.31\00:29:35.34
Well, thank you so much.
00:29:35.37\00:29:36.40
Thank you, Leasa.
00:29:36.43\00:29:37.53
And we'll be praying for you.
00:29:37.56\00:29:39.15
Thank you very much, God bless.
00:29:39.18\00:29:41.12
Next we have a,
00:29:41.15\00:29:43.06
you know, we've got a variety,
00:29:43.09\00:29:44.39
we've got a ministry, we
had a medical professional
00:29:44.42\00:29:46.68
next we have a business
00:29:46.71\00:29:48.94
but it's not an
ordinary business.
00:29:48.97\00:29:50.97
And Dirci, you are not new to us
00:29:51.00\00:29:53.46
but your son I don't
think he has ever been up here.
00:29:53.49\00:29:56.87
Yeah, we are not new to ASI.
00:29:56.90\00:30:00.71
Okay, well, how long
have you been in ASI?
00:30:00.74\00:30:04.08
2004, it's been a while, yes.
00:30:04.11\00:30:06.65
So your name is Dirci Marquart
00:30:06.68\00:30:09.29
and introduce this young man.
00:30:09.32\00:30:11.90
I'm Junior Seidi.
00:30:11.93\00:30:13.49
Junior Seidi. This is your son?
00:30:13.52\00:30:14.55
Yes.
00:30:14.58\00:30:15.62
Okay, and you work
together in this business?
00:30:15.65\00:30:17.28
Yes.
00:30:17.31\00:30:18.46
Now, we just heard that
00:30:18.49\00:30:21.17
this is coming
to the close of time
00:30:21.20\00:30:23.40
we can't do business as usual.
00:30:23.43\00:30:25.63
So how are you not
doing business as usual?
00:30:25.66\00:30:29.57
Well, we continue to do as usual
00:30:29.60\00:30:31.89
in order to
support out ministry.
00:30:31.92\00:30:33.75
Our dream is to continue
mission serve and its work
00:30:33.78\00:30:38.06
but we need to do
our regular business
00:30:38.09\00:30:40.49
in order to support it.
00:30:40.52\00:30:41.59
Okay, maybe we should establish
what your regular business is.
00:30:41.62\00:30:45.99
We build granite countertops.
00:30:46.02\00:30:50.15
You build what
kind of countertops?
00:30:50.18\00:30:51.23
Granite, stone.
00:30:51.26\00:30:52.84
Granite counter tops, okay.
00:30:52.87\00:30:54.62
Yes, we have a
granite counter top business
00:30:54.65\00:30:56.44
in the Frederick
area of Maryland.
00:30:56.47\00:30:58.52
And that's our, you
know, pay our bills everyday.
00:30:58.55\00:31:01.41
Okay, now, that's not all
you do with your business.
00:31:01.44\00:31:06.55
No, our business
actually has this ministry
00:31:06.58\00:31:10.16
which is called
MissionServ International
00:31:10.19\00:31:12.16
and we have been doing
this for the last 10 years.
00:31:12.19\00:31:15.51
Before we joined ASI
we already doing this work
00:31:15.54\00:31:20.50
with poor communities in Brazil
00:31:20.53\00:31:22.39
where we are from and building
00:31:22.42\00:31:26.94
different types of
training facilities--
00:31:26.97\00:31:31.79
What kind of training?
00:31:31.82\00:31:34.06
Community training,
health, we did also evangelism,
00:31:34.09\00:31:40.70
we even had twice ASI training
00:31:40.73\00:31:43.62
with the DVD
program which is excellent.
00:31:43.65\00:31:45.97
Yeah, we trained
like 1,500 people
00:31:46.00\00:31:48.67
there in that same area.
00:31:48.70\00:31:49.96
Okay, wonderful.
00:31:49.99\00:31:51.08
So have you heard the
results from those trainees?
00:31:51.11\00:31:53.43
Oh, yes.
00:31:53.46\00:31:55.14
Well, the result really is that
00:31:55.17\00:31:57.18
the church is
growing so much there
00:31:57.21\00:31:59.27
that we decide to
start to build churches now
00:31:59.30\00:32:01.64
so that's what
we're doing right now.
00:32:01.67\00:32:04.15
Okay, now I understand that
you have an exciting testimony.
00:32:04.18\00:32:09.01
Actually I do, I
think we all have been hit
00:32:09.04\00:32:11.64
a little bit from the economy,
we specifically have done that.
00:32:11.67\00:32:15.71
In the building
trade. In the building trade.
00:32:15.74\00:32:18.46
And we actually had to move
00:32:18.49\00:32:19.97
from one building
to another building,
00:32:20.00\00:32:21.72
we had the opportunity
to share in the marketplace,
00:32:21.75\00:32:25.12
you know, the faith that we have
00:32:25.15\00:32:26.49
and God has been
extremely blessed,
00:32:26.52\00:32:29.47
He has been blessing
us throughout the years.
00:32:29.50\00:32:32.70
And we actually
had the opportunity
00:32:32.73\00:32:34.85
to meet our new landlord that
00:32:34.88\00:32:36.86
we had extremely a
very wealthy business man
00:32:36.89\00:32:41.62
in the Frederick area
and we actually were talking
00:32:41.65\00:32:44.28
about him or to
him, he's not Christian,
00:32:44.31\00:32:46.76
he doesn't do any
church or anything like that.
00:32:46.79\00:32:49.39
So he found out that
we're going to do a mission trip
00:32:49.42\00:32:52.90
but it was only
a family activity.
00:32:52.93\00:32:55.25
It was supposed to be our kids,
00:32:55.28\00:32:56.65
my wife you know, my--
00:32:56.68\00:32:58.11
it was a direct
family mission trip
00:32:58.14\00:32:59.40
that we actually were doing.
00:32:59.43\00:33:00.46
Okay.
00:33:00.49\00:33:01.57
He decided that he
wanted to go with us,
00:33:01.60\00:33:03.26
I really thought it was a
joke, he was playing with me.
00:33:03.29\00:33:05.65
Oh, wow.
00:33:05.68\00:33:06.71
This man is a big guy.
00:33:06.74\00:33:08.15
He's very large and
very excited and everything
00:33:08.18\00:33:11.00
but I didn't think he was
gonna come to Brazil with us.
00:33:11.03\00:33:12.74
Did you tell him where he,
yeah, we are just listening?
00:33:12.77\00:33:14.56
Well, he did come to Brazil
00:33:14.59\00:33:16.20
believe it or
not and he actually--
00:33:16.23\00:33:17.33
And he brought the whole family.
00:33:17.36\00:33:18.54
He did bring his
son and his wife.
00:33:18.57\00:33:20.56
Well, the Holy
Spirit was working on him.
00:33:20.59\00:33:22.57
It was, Holy Spirit
works amazing things.
00:33:22.60\00:33:25.34
And so he did come down with us
00:33:25.37\00:33:27.07
and we had this interlocking
building concept that
00:33:27.10\00:33:30.38
we've been here ASI many
years before showing espousing
00:33:30.41\00:33:34.09
but and he comes down
and looks at this thing
00:33:34.12\00:33:38.94
and he gets, he is so impressed
00:33:38.97\00:33:41.11
and surprised by the
fact that my two boys
00:33:41.14\00:33:44.20
being able to
build the structure
00:33:44.23\00:33:46.22
that he told me
when we got back to US
00:33:46.25\00:33:49.03
that he wanted
actually to help us
00:33:49.06\00:33:51.58
and push that forward.
00:33:51.61\00:33:53.25
Okay, and how would he help you?
00:33:53.28\00:33:55.10
Well, he actually decided that,
00:33:55.13\00:33:56.66
one of my goals and my dreams
00:33:56.69\00:33:57.92
was to actually
have a training facility
00:33:57.95\00:34:00.47
with our building
concept here in the US
00:34:00.50\00:34:03.13
and he actually gave us an
area that we could do that.
00:34:03.16\00:34:06.91
Land? Or building?
00:34:06.94\00:34:09.49
The actual land area,
00:34:09.52\00:34:10.58
we're gonna be doing that
in Frederick this next year.
00:34:10.61\00:34:13.80
At the same time
he also help us fund
00:34:13.83\00:34:15.66
the actual money for
automating the machines.
00:34:15.69\00:34:20.00
Amen.
00:34:20.03\00:34:21.11
So, and the most
amazing thing was that
00:34:21.14\00:34:23.92
the last three months ago
00:34:23.95\00:34:25.87
we were able to
build our first church
00:34:25.90\00:34:30.21
done with totally
construction rubble.
00:34:30.24\00:34:33.59
It was build out of trash.
00:34:33.62\00:34:36.01
So we went from trash into
a church now that you have,
00:34:36.04\00:34:40.20
you know, 40
members being able to--
00:34:40.23\00:34:42.85
Make turn with that, the roof.
00:34:42.88\00:34:44.87
In the Frederick area?
00:34:44.90\00:34:46.15
No, this is in Brazil.
00:34:46.18\00:34:47.21
Oh, in Brazil, okay.
00:34:47.24\00:34:48.47
Okay, so he came down with you,
00:34:48.50\00:34:51.38
he saw what you were
doing, got all excited,
00:34:51.41\00:34:54.52
now you so have
contract with him.
00:34:54.55\00:34:57.02
Yes, yes.
00:34:57.05\00:34:58.08
Okay, so what's happening there?
00:34:58.11\00:35:00.07
Well, he's helping
us through this project
00:35:00.10\00:35:02.34
and every once
and while he comes
00:35:02.37\00:35:04.38
and ask us a little
about our faith and what we do.
00:35:04.41\00:35:07.05
And we slowly and we're
able to actually show that
00:35:07.08\00:35:12.40
and I believe he really
likes and wants to be help
00:35:12.43\00:35:16.50
as much as
possible in the future.
00:35:16.53\00:35:17.94
Its interesting that
he really got involved
00:35:17.97\00:35:20.41
and now he doesn't
want to stay only in Brazil,
00:35:20.44\00:35:24.12
he said what we have
here is for the whole world.
00:35:24.15\00:35:27.57
There are so many
other organizations
00:35:27.60\00:35:29.07
needing that as well.
00:35:29.10\00:35:30.86
So our next stage is
to train a group in Haiti
00:35:30.89\00:35:36.17
and then it's
Africa the next one that
00:35:36.20\00:35:39.06
we are lining up for training.
00:35:39.09\00:35:41.14
So you are sharing
Christ in your marketplace.
00:35:41.17\00:35:44.94
Certainly.
00:35:44.97\00:35:46.05
And your marketplace
is the building trade
00:35:46.08\00:35:48.97
but you involved your landlord
00:35:49.00\00:35:51.94
and he went on a
mission trip with you.
00:35:51.97\00:35:53.58
Okay, what other plans
00:35:53.61\00:35:55.20
do you have to share
Christ in your marketplace?
00:35:55.23\00:35:58.32
Well, we really
want to continue this,
00:35:58.35\00:35:59.99
we call this
project now Project Hope
00:36:00.02\00:36:02.62
from trash into hope
that's our motto now.
00:36:02.65\00:36:07.21
Okay, so
recycling is a big thing.
00:36:07.24\00:36:09.17
Yes, because our machine
00:36:09.20\00:36:11.32
now crushes the
rubble from construction
00:36:11.35\00:36:15.05
and that's what we use
to build our churches now.
00:36:15.08\00:36:18.94
Okay, now I'm kind of confused.
00:36:18.97\00:36:21.71
You sell granite counters.
00:36:21.74\00:36:23.50
That's correct.
00:36:23.53\00:36:24.79
But now you're recycling trash.
00:36:24.82\00:36:28.95
Well, unfortunately
00:36:28.98\00:36:31.06
we don't make
money in doing that,
00:36:31.09\00:36:32.53
we make money
doing the countertops.
00:36:32.56\00:36:33.86
Okay.
00:36:33.89\00:36:34.92
Our goal and our future
is to be able to do that
00:36:34.95\00:36:36.95
and actually multiply that,
have the same training facility
00:36:36.98\00:36:40.46
and the same
ability to take this trash
00:36:40.49\00:36:43.32
and make it into churches
00:36:43.35\00:36:44.74
and structures
and stuff like that.
00:36:44.77\00:36:46.55
It's pretty amazing.
00:36:46.58\00:36:47.65
We'll be next year in Orlando
00:36:47.68\00:36:49.44
and you'll be able to
see there what we're doing.
00:36:49.47\00:36:51.72
Okay, well, wonderful.
00:36:51.75\00:36:52.90
Now, do you have a booth here?
00:36:52.93\00:36:53.99
No, no? Not yet.
00:36:54.02\00:36:55.96
No, not this year.
00:36:55.99\00:36:57.14
Okay, so now, we
have business people here
00:36:57.17\00:37:01.48
and maybe they're thinking
00:37:01.51\00:37:03.02
how can I turn my
business into a ministry?
00:37:03.05\00:37:07.52
Do you have any advice?
00:37:07.55\00:37:10.49
Well, first of
all trust the Lord.
00:37:10.52\00:37:13.35
God has opened doors for us
00:37:13.38\00:37:15.05
and He will open to everybody
that's willing to work.
00:37:15.08\00:37:18.74
There is no doubt about it.
00:37:18.77\00:37:20.52
We have seen God blessing
us and helping us through out.
00:37:20.55\00:37:25.71
If we're willing certainly
the Lord will bless us.
00:37:25.74\00:37:28.72
I'm sorry, I want to say,
00:37:28.75\00:37:29.91
if that is exactly what it is.
00:37:29.94\00:37:31.50
You got to trust.
00:37:31.53\00:37:32.97
God has an opportunity
for you to do His work.
00:37:33.00\00:37:36.58
He needs to use you
00:37:36.61\00:37:38.06
and He's not gonna let you down.
00:37:38.09\00:37:39.86
So it doesn't
matter for super talented
00:37:39.89\00:37:42.24
or super charismatic,
00:37:42.27\00:37:44.10
we just have to
have an open heart.
00:37:44.13\00:37:45.38
True. That's exactly--
00:37:45.41\00:37:46.44
So that's the first requirement?
00:37:46.47\00:37:47.52
Yes.
00:37:47.55\00:37:48.58
And then God can
do amazing things.
00:37:48.61\00:37:49.83
Sure.
00:37:49.86\00:37:50.89
Just like He's used you.
00:37:50.92\00:37:51.95
Thank you so much.
00:37:51.98\00:37:53.09
Thank you. Thank you so much.
00:37:53.12\00:37:54.33
Okay, our last person
tonight is from Poland.
00:37:54.36\00:37:59.66
Actually there's two of
them, they are brothers.
00:37:59.69\00:38:02.04
And I have the opportunity
to work with one of your wives
00:38:02.07\00:38:07.61
but we can talk about
that a little bit later.
00:38:07.64\00:38:09.73
So tell us what your names
are and what your ministry is?
00:38:09.76\00:38:14.05
Springs of Life
Foundation from Poland.
00:38:14.08\00:38:16.04
I'm Wiktor Kuczek.
00:38:16.07\00:38:17.79
And I'm Robert Kuczek.
00:38:17.82\00:38:19.57
Okay, so Wiktor and Robert,
00:38:19.60\00:38:21.12
brothers, right.
00:38:21.15\00:38:23.08
Okay, and how long have
you been doing this ministry?
00:38:23.11\00:38:26.10
We have been in operation
00:38:26.13\00:38:27.30
for the last 25
year-- for 21 years,
00:38:27.33\00:38:30.25
so we just hit
our 21st anniversary
00:38:30.28\00:38:32.77
just a few months ago.
00:38:32.80\00:38:33.87
Just a few minutes ago?
00:38:33.90\00:38:35.51
Few months ago.
00:38:35.54\00:38:36.61
Oh, few months ago, okay.
00:38:36.64\00:38:38.06
I've thought, wow, you
keep time right to the minute.
00:38:38.09\00:38:41.09
That's pretty impressive.
00:38:41.12\00:38:42.97
Okay, so what are--
00:38:43.00\00:38:45.14
you've been in
ministry for 21 years,
00:38:45.17\00:38:47.29
is there anything new happening?
00:38:47.32\00:38:49.35
Yes, when you are
in publishing ministry
00:38:49.38\00:38:52.10
it's heard not to be involved
00:38:52.13\00:38:53.47
with the Great
Controversy project.
00:38:53.50\00:38:55.37
So in Poland we have
following the success
00:38:55.40\00:38:59.21
from 12 years ago when
the Great Controversy book
00:38:59.24\00:39:02.12
became the fourth best
selling book in our country
00:39:02.15\00:39:05.54
and we've sold
230,000 copies at that time.
00:39:05.57\00:39:09.69
We decided to do it again
00:39:09.72\00:39:11.79
and we have reformatted our book
00:39:11.82\00:39:14.19
to match the low
price that's possible
00:39:14.22\00:39:17.58
since the prices in
Poland are going up.
00:39:17.61\00:39:19.26
Show it to them.
00:39:19.29\00:39:20.75
Yes, so this is
copy of our new book.
00:39:20.78\00:39:23.39
We have also put the
book in the digital format
00:39:23.42\00:39:25.91
and I have with me a CD,
00:39:25.94\00:39:28.68
we have made
130,000 copies of this CD's
00:39:28.71\00:39:33.26
and we have also
designed a special--
00:39:33.29\00:39:34.68
So this is an audio book?
00:39:34.71\00:39:35.76
This is audio, yes.
00:39:35.79\00:39:37.30
We have also,
created a special webpage
00:39:37.33\00:39:40.94
called the greatcontroversy.pl
00:39:40.97\00:39:43.93
and we have the
audio and the digital
00:39:43.96\00:39:47.15
and the regular
book available for people
00:39:47.18\00:39:49.57
who want to buy the book.
00:39:49.60\00:39:51.61
And of course we
didn't have as many hits
00:39:51.64\00:39:54.79
for this webpage as we wanted
00:39:54.82\00:39:58.07
so the Lord find the better way
00:39:58.10\00:40:00.60
of bringing this
message from the book to people.
00:40:00.63\00:40:04.97
Now you could find
the book on the webpage
00:40:05.00\00:40:08.10
of the famous
catholic television station,
00:40:08.13\00:40:13.19
which is amazing.
00:40:13.22\00:40:15.18
So, okay. The book
is Great Controversy.
00:40:15.21\00:40:18.96
Yes.
00:40:18.99\00:40:20.06
And it is now on sale
at a catholic website.
00:40:20.09\00:40:24.96
It's actually free
on catholic website.
00:40:24.99\00:40:26.59
Oh, free. Okay.
00:40:26.62\00:40:29.35
So how do you track how
many you are sending out,
00:40:29.38\00:40:32.22
they're ordering out from you?
00:40:32.25\00:40:34.24
Well, that's why we
don't get so many orders.
00:40:34.27\00:40:36.55
Most people like
the catholic webpage.
00:40:36.58\00:40:39.29
I see.
00:40:39.32\00:40:40.85
Okay, well, praise the Lord.
00:40:40.88\00:40:42.33
He'll send His message out.
00:40:42.36\00:40:44.11
Okay, now Wiktor,
your wife is a physician.
00:40:44.14\00:40:48.21
Yes.
00:40:48.24\00:40:49.50
And she came to Eden
Valley last year, was it?
00:40:49.53\00:40:52.61
Three years ago.
00:40:52.64\00:40:53.85
Okay, and she wanted to
know how we treated cancer.
00:40:53.88\00:40:58.88
Yes.
00:40:58.91\00:41:00.12
Since she came-- she went back,
00:41:00.15\00:41:01.95
what has she been doing?
00:41:01.98\00:41:04.11
Well, we were praying
for a new lifestyle center.
00:41:04.14\00:41:08.35
We wanted to build a
one and actually a year ago
00:41:08.38\00:41:11.75
we have been
distributing newsletter
00:41:11.78\00:41:14.49
here on ASI trying to find--
00:41:14.52\00:41:17.90
trying to raise
the money for this.
00:41:17.93\00:41:19.68
But we were able to raise
00:41:19.71\00:41:21.84
less than one
percent of what we needed.
00:41:21.87\00:41:24.72
So we could not go with
this progress-- with this plan.
00:41:24.75\00:41:27.17
So, were you pretty discouraged?
00:41:27.20\00:41:29.42
Well, no, we kept praying.
00:41:29.45\00:41:30.76
Okay, you had faith?
00:41:30.79\00:41:32.22
Yes.
00:41:32.25\00:41:33.83
So how did the
Lord show a better way?
00:41:33.86\00:41:37.86
Yes, this is actually a miracle.
00:41:37.89\00:41:41.67
A year ago right
after we return from ASI
00:41:41.70\00:41:45.61
we have a New start program
00:41:45.64\00:41:47.24
and on this new
start program came a man.
00:41:47.27\00:41:50.93
A man who has been actually
opposing Adventist church
00:41:50.96\00:41:55.56
for many, many years
00:41:55.59\00:41:56.95
and he came because
of the health problems
00:41:56.98\00:41:59.79
and he has been counseled
that he will find a solution.
00:41:59.82\00:42:03.52
After the program, he
liked the program quite well
00:42:03.55\00:42:06.83
and he offered us
his brand new built
00:42:06.86\00:42:11.12
big building for
the Newstart program.
00:42:11.15\00:42:14.09
Okay, this is the building here.
00:42:14.12\00:42:15.25
This is the building,
you can see it on the screen
00:42:15.28\00:42:17.99
it's a much better building
that we were planned to build.
00:42:18.02\00:42:21.26
Yes, I have to ask
you the building that
00:42:21.29\00:42:23.67
you were planning on building,
00:42:23.70\00:42:27.09
what is the
difference between the sizes?
00:42:27.12\00:42:29.32
This building is about
three times bigger in the size
00:42:29.35\00:42:32.52
and it costs probably four times
00:42:32.55\00:42:35.12
more than we were planning.
00:42:35.15\00:42:36.51
So you were dreaming too
small and the Lord said no.
00:42:36.54\00:42:39.43
Yes.
00:42:39.46\00:42:40.72
Okay, so now this
building, is it finished?
00:42:40.75\00:42:44.08
This building
is almost finished,
00:42:44.11\00:42:46.25
now these are something things
00:42:46.28\00:42:47.65
that are not
finished in this building,
00:42:47.68\00:42:49.24
actually right now we
have only eight rooms available
00:42:49.27\00:42:52.97
while after the
finishing of the building
00:42:53.00\00:42:54.81
we could have 16 rooms
00:42:54.84\00:42:56.75
plus we could
have some other things,
00:42:56.78\00:42:58.98
the bigger kitchen
and like we planned
00:42:59.01\00:43:01.01
that it's not present now.
00:43:01.04\00:43:03.13
Okay, so but it's not finished
but I know Garzina your wife,
00:43:03.16\00:43:06.72
she really wanted
to start a program.
00:43:06.75\00:43:09.78
So was she able to?
00:43:09.81\00:43:10.89
Yes, we have sat with
that owner of this building
00:43:10.92\00:43:14.15
and we calculated
what is the most needed
00:43:14.18\00:43:17.80
in order to start
the small programs
00:43:17.83\00:43:21.86
and so we came
up with the number
00:43:21.89\00:43:24.27
and we have long to
disbanded to this owner
00:43:24.30\00:43:27.86
and he was able to
finish this part of the building
00:43:27.89\00:43:31.13
so we could start the program.
00:43:31.16\00:43:32.93
And so we did have
two programs in this year.
00:43:32.96\00:43:37.76
And we have just
finished on the Monday
00:43:37.79\00:43:40.85
the second program
00:43:40.88\00:43:41.92
and the both programs were full,
00:43:41.95\00:43:43.89
all eight rooms were busy
over 20 people on each program.
00:43:43.92\00:43:48.67
Okay, now Poland
is a catholic country,
00:43:48.70\00:43:52.07
is that correct?
00:43:52.10\00:43:53.13
Yes. Okay.
00:43:53.16\00:43:54.27
So the gospel ministry
really is an opening ledge,
00:43:54.30\00:43:59.25
it is the right
arm of the gospel,
00:43:59.28\00:44:00.96
can you share
with us a testimony
00:44:00.99\00:44:02.81
of how that has helped somebody
that has come to your program?
00:44:02.84\00:44:08.94
Well, sure.
00:44:08.97\00:44:10.80
Could I have the next picture?
00:44:10.83\00:44:13.61
I don't know.
Okay, the next picture.
00:44:13.64\00:44:14.81
Next picture, the
picture, the last picture
00:44:14.84\00:44:18.22
and the one before
the last on the screen.
00:44:18.25\00:44:20.86
I don't know if
this we can have it
00:44:20.89\00:44:22.66
but there was a lady
00:44:22.69\00:44:24.23
that we were
measuring the blood pressure.
00:44:24.26\00:44:26.97
Okay.
00:44:27.00\00:44:28.07
And this lady have
come to the program
00:44:28.10\00:44:29.76
this year as well
00:44:29.79\00:44:32.37
but she came for the
first time couple years ago
00:44:32.40\00:44:36.09
and she came from the
very wealthy family in Poland
00:44:36.12\00:44:40.72
and-- but they
have some problems
00:44:40.75\00:44:46.86
and she was very exhausted
because of this problems
00:44:46.89\00:44:50.26
and so she came for this program
00:44:50.29\00:44:51.75
and at the program she
got, she liked the program
00:44:51.78\00:44:55.82
so much that the same year
she came for another program
00:44:55.85\00:45:00.33
and the same year
for another program.
00:45:00.36\00:45:01.86
Okay, so three times.
00:45:01.89\00:45:02.94
Three times, yes.
00:45:02.97\00:45:04.02
And next year it
was, I think two years ago
00:45:04.05\00:45:08.69
she has been
baptized at our church.
00:45:08.72\00:45:11.04
Not on only this year later
her husband was baptized also
00:45:11.07\00:45:17.94
and their
daughter has been baptized.
00:45:17.97\00:45:20.03
So all family
almost has been baptized.
00:45:20.06\00:45:24.58
God is doing amazing
things around the world
00:45:24.61\00:45:27.50
and tonight you
have heard a business,
00:45:27.53\00:45:30.61
ministry, a medical evangelist
00:45:30.64\00:45:33.85
and medical missionary ministry
00:45:33.88\00:45:36.88
and all of us can be involved
if we just have an open heart.
00:45:36.91\00:45:40.34
Amen.
00:45:40.37\00:45:41.81
Thank you so much
and God bless you.
00:45:41.84\00:45:44.98
God bless you.
00:45:45.01\00:45:46.96
The timeless theme
00:46:15.21\00:46:18.76
Earth and Heaven will pass away
00:46:18.79\00:46:26.04
It's not a dream
00:46:26.07\00:46:29.18
God will make all
things new that day
00:46:29.21\00:46:37.10
Gone is the curse
00:46:37.13\00:46:41.21
From which I stumbled and fell
00:46:41.24\00:46:46.83
Evil is banished
00:46:46.86\00:46:51.34
To eternal hell
00:46:51.37\00:46:56.41
No more night
00:46:59.51\00:47:04.74
No more pain
00:47:04.77\00:47:09.85
No more tears
00:47:09.88\00:47:14.42
Never crying again
00:47:14.45\00:47:20.17
Praises to
00:47:20.20\00:47:24.97
The great "I AM"
00:47:25.00\00:47:29.08
We will live
00:47:29.11\00:47:31.99
In the light of the risen Lamb
00:47:32.02\00:47:38.88
See all around
00:47:47.23\00:47:50.03
Now the nations bow down to sing
00:47:50.06\00:47:57.86
The only sound, are the praises
00:47:57.89\00:48:03.49
To Christ our King
00:48:03.52\00:48:08.98
Slowly the names
00:48:09.01\00:48:13.68
From the book are read
00:48:13.71\00:48:18.27
I know the King there's
00:48:18.30\00:48:23.09
No need to dread
00:48:23.12\00:48:30.76
No more night
00:48:30.79\00:48:35.53
No more pain
00:48:35.56\00:48:40.33
No more tears
00:48:40.36\00:48:44.93
Never crying again
00:48:44.96\00:48:50.11
Praises to
00:48:50.14\00:48:54.89
The great "I AM"
00:48:54.92\00:48:59.15
We will live
00:48:59.18\00:49:01.72
In the light of the risen Lamb
00:49:01.75\00:49:08.95
See over there it's a mansion
00:49:10.98\00:49:16.11
Prepared for me
00:49:16.14\00:49:20.37
Where I will live
00:49:20.40\00:49:23.07
With my savior eternally
00:49:23.10\00:49:28.86
No more night
00:49:33.11\00:49:37.98
No more pain
00:49:38.01\00:49:42.85
No more tears
00:49:42.88\00:49:47.19
Never crying again
00:49:47.22\00:49:52.04
And praises to
00:49:52.07\00:49:56.67
The great "I AM"
00:49:56.70\00:50:00.89
We will live
00:50:00.92\00:50:03.53
In the light of the risen Lamb
00:50:03.56\00:50:10.50
We will live
00:50:54.59\00:50:57.56
In the light of the risen Lamb
00:50:57.59\00:51:04.56
The Lamb
00:51:10.81\00:51:18.78