Welcome to 3ABN's Fall
Camp Meeting Homecoming 2009.
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Featuring inspired
messages from your 3ABN family
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along with
uplifting Christian music
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all to prepare your heart
for the coming of the Lord.
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I heard a song recently
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that I just fell in love with.
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It was written by Danny
Shelton and I've ask Danny
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if he would sing
it for us tonight
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and he has considered to do so.
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And the title of it is
"I give you all my praise".
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This is one of those
things sometimes in life
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when you going along
and maybe you hit a bump
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in the road that be
easy way of sign it, right.
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Some of you here a bump
now and then and sometimes
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you decide you know
I can either give up
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or I can keep going and
so one night I was sitting
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just week or so
ago and was sitting
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with the guitar late
at night and I said Lord
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I just give you all the praise
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and he kind of gave
me this little song.
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I hope I can do it for you now.
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All my praise, I
give you all my praise
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That's all I have to offer you
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I now build a
sanctuary deep within my heart
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And all my praise
I offer up to you.
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I love you Lord.
Oh! How I love you Lord
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I bear my heart and soul to you.
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I'm an empty broken vessel
with hurt and pain inside.
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Still all my
praise I offer up to you.
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Fill me Lord. Oh! Please
fill me Lord with your Holy
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Spirit fill me Lord.
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For I long for your anointing
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that I may work for you.
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Fill me Lord,
touch me Lord once Lord.
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All my praise I
gave you all my praise
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That's all I have to offer you
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I now build a
sanctuary deep within my heart
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And all my
praise, I offer up to you
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And all my
praise, I offer up to you
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All my praise to you.
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It's my privilege
tonight to introduce
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Pastor C.A
Murray and I don't know
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if he plays the guitar or not,
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but he wants one
here and here's one here.
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But C.A. Murray is
one of the best friends
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that I've ever had in
my life I consider him
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my brother and the
Lord, I consider him
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a spiritual mentor.
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I look up to him in
more ways than one some ways
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are obvious his taller
than me and but I looked up
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to him and I feel
that God has blessed
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not only me
personally, but the ministry of
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3 Angels Broadcasting
Network and in that sense
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is blessed many
many multitudes of people
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around the world are
blessed because of the
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ministry of
Pastor and author C.A.
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Murray and singer C.A.
Murray has a new project
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out and so at this
time it is my privilege
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brother C.A. Murray
come out and bless us.
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We have had a
wonderful sitting together
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and I'm thankful to
Danny for using his,
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thankful for those kind words.
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I feel very
prayed up my friend and
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Pastor John Lomacang
was among the first to pray
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for me this evening
and I return an favored him
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on yesterday's good one
your Pastor prays for you.
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It's been a long
day and yet there is
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a word from the Lord.
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I said I like to talk to
you for just a few moments
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on arguing with God.
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I want to tell you
how to argue with God.
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It will of necessity
be a very short sermon.
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In fact it maybe one
of the shortest sermons
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you've ever heard in fact
it is so short I will warn
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you when the sermon comes
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because though the
sermon is short the preamble
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is somewhat lengthy.
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So, I'll tell you
when we get to the sermon
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because we want to
talk just a few minutes
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about arguing with God.
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I should like you to
turn with me if you will
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to the book of Second Kings.
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I've been preaching
from First and Second Kings
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for better part of two years.
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There is much to be
found in that particular book.
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We will not read
from it just now.
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We will pick it up
just a little bit later,
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but I want you to be prepare,
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so put your finger
there or your tab there
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and hold on to it
for just a little bit
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because there
are one or two things
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we need to do with just
prior to going to the word.
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Second Kings, we'll
read the first several
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verses of that,
that very powerful book,
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Second Kings chapter
20, Second Kings chapter 20
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and we will consider shortly
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verses 1 through 6.
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Shall we pray? Heavenly father,
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we just ask now
for your presence
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and your power
because we need Jesus
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as never before.
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Yeah I was late not
only on this particular
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Saturday night, but in
the history of planet earth
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and all we want to be
ready when Jesus comes.
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Amen. So we call
upon you to speak to us
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and give us strength to
walk the road that leads
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to glory and we thank
you in Jesus name, amen.
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Amen. I should
like to ask a question
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It may seem
rhetorically, it is not.
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But, I want to ask
you is there anyone here
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who has ever argued with God?
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Be honest, if you have;
have you ever argued with God?
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The next question, did you win?
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And if you won, how
do you know that you won?
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Or you might say
well I got what I want,
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I got what I
wanted. Now that maybe the
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most salient
proof that you lost.
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Arguing with God;
if indeed you've argued
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with God you are
inferiorly rarefied air
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and good company.
Moses argued with God,
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Abraham argued with
God, David argued with God,
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most of the
prophets argued with God,
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William Miller argued with God,
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and Ellen White argued with God.
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Now, you maybe
among that group of
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people, who believe
that Christians never argue.
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Are you kidding?
Let me give you just a
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peak at one of the
most famous arguments in
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the New Testament.
Fought by two individuals
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who I have been to
know were Christians.
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It is found in
Acts chapter 13 verse 2,
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Acts 13 verse 2, the
Bible says in Acts 13
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verse 2 in fact let me
turn to it very quickly
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Acts chapter 13 and verse 2.
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Mathew, Mark Luke,
John, Acts 13 and verse 2
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and as they ministered
to the Lord, and fasted,
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the Holy Spirit said,
who said the Holy Spirit
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said now separate me
Barnabas and Saul for
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the work to which
I have called them.
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So, who called
them? Holy Spirit.
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Were they Christians? Oh yeah.
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Holy Spirit called
Barnabas call Saul to
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a special work.
Now let's look what
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happens just two
chapters later I mean
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chapter 15 verse
39, chapter 15 verse 39
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in fact to get the
whole story started
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verse 37, chapter 15 verse 37.
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Now Barnabas was
determined to take
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with them John called
Mark. Somebody is determined,
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but Paul insisted
that they should take,
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that they should
not take with them one
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who had departed
from them in Pamphylia
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and had not gone
with them to the work.
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So, Barnabas
wants him Paul does not.
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Now what do you
call determined when it
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meets insisted.
That's argument isn't it?
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Two men both
ordained by God have
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filled with the Holy
Spirit one determined
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he is gonna go, one
insisted no he ain't.
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Well, yes he is no he
not. Oh! Yeah yes he is no
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way not. He is,
he is not, he is not.
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I want him, I
don't. So, what happened,
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verse 39 then the
contention became so
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short, so what? Short. Umm! Umm!
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The contention became
so short that they parted
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from another and
so Barnabas took Mark
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and sailed to
Cyprus and Paul went the
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other way with Silas.
So, do Christians argue?
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Yes. Oh yeah! The
question is not if
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you're gonna argue.
The question is what
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you're gonna do when you argue.
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You see the burden is to
argue and still be christian.
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Amen. Amen. Bible
says be angry and sin not.
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So, it's not are you
going to get into an argument.
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The question is, are
you going to be a Christian?
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Why you argue? I'm
saying that a Christian
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fight ought to be better
that a non-Christian fight.
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A Christian
argument ought to be cleaner
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than a non-Christian argument.
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Non-Christians
argue, Christians argue,
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but there ought to
be some semblance of
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difference between
a christian argument
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and a
non-Christian argument because
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after the argument is over
things ought to get better.
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Amen. Now I have a
theology of arguing.
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To my mind there
are only two modalities
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for arguing as when I
say there are only two
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reasons for arguing,
there are many reasons
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why people argue,
but there are only two
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modalities, two modalities.
One people argue to get
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to the bottom of
the situation, amen.
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You have an
opinion, I have an opinion.
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If we're gonna get
the truth in light we're
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going to have to
juxtapose those opinions, we're
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gonna have to content
little bit to try to get
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the truth. So, the
first modality for arguing
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is trying to get
to the truth, amen.
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Amen. And if we're
gonna get to the truth
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sometime we got a
work added a little bit.
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Can you say amen?
Amen. The second modality for
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arguing is simply to win.
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Umm! There are
some people, who argue
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and they are arguing to win.
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They don't care about truth,
they don't care about right,
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they don't care about
wrong, they are in it to win it.
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And of course
your burden for winning
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predetermines the
tactics you are prepared to use.
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Amen. Amen. If you want to win
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real bad, you fight
real hard and sometimes
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you even fight
dirty. But, you don't care
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about truth you
care about winning.
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Write this down
and hold on to this
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because we are gonna
come back to it at the end
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of the sermon. Herman
and I have discussed this
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many times, she is sitting
right there she will tell
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you. It is my settle
belief that when two people
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argue your number one
job is to understand the
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other person's point of
view. That's your number
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one job why? Because
you already know your
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point of view, that's
why we are having this
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fight because my point
of view you, you forgive
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my perjured of English,
ain't your point of view.
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If they were the
same we wouldn't be here.
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So, your job is to
understand my point of
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view and my job is to
understand your point of
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view that's a
primary goal in any argument.
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Particularly,
when you are arguing
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with your spouse.
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Because just suppose,
just suppose your point
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of view is wrong, but
how do you know unless
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you, I got to find a
nice Christian word for shut
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up. Cease and
desist your delightness
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adverbial, long enough
to hear my point of view
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and I shut up long
enough to hear your point of
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view. That make sense
if you never get a word
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in I can understand
you, if I never get a word in
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you can understand
me. So, my first goal once
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we find out we've got a
disagreement is for both
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of us to listen long
enough to understand,
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where the other
person is coming from.
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We never gonna get to
resolution unless I hear
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you and you hear me make sense.
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And we got to watch
our mouth, see when you
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use words like
idiot, stupid, and fool that
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itigates against resolution.
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And anyway listen if he
is an idiot, stupid, fool
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what is that make
you, you married him.
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Should before judge
and said I will honor,
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love and obey to a depth
life partner, the idiots.
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So, we've got to
watch our mouth. Amen.
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Amen. James says a
little member tongue.
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Ellen White says this,
early writings page 119,
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if pride could be
put aside most arguments
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would be
settled in five minutes.
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If you could get out
of the way and put your
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pride down most
arguments would be settled in
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five minutes. We got
folks not speak to each
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other for years.
Amen. Can you remember what
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the original infection
was I just don't talk to her
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she don't talk to me.
Oh! Well we don't know,
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we just don't talk.
Husband and wife sleep on
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one almost fallen out
this side of the bed one
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fallen out that side of
the bed. You look at him
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into back of the car
through the back window,
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he is on this door
and she is on that door.
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And Ellen White says
we could put our pride
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aside five minutes
clear most arguments.
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Amen. Amen.
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Back in 1800s, I'm a
big, I'm big ship fan,
00:20:22.56\00:20:24.60
if you go in my office
I have a lot of sailing
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ships and the big sailing
ship fanatic, but back in
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1800 they, they,
they when they had 1700 or
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1800s, 17th, 18th,
19th centuries they had a
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whaling fleets that go
out from Long Island rise
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to live. Catch
whales in North Atlantic and
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sometimes these
whales were larger than the
00:20:41.00\00:20:42.66
ships that caught
them and so once the whale
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was harpooned by
their original harpoon they
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had to send a fellow out
in a little tiny skiff to
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actually attacks the
lines to the whale because
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many times they cut
the blubber from the whale
00:20:54.03\00:20:55.86
right there in the
ocean and it was the most
00:20:55.86\00:20:59.20
dangerous job. He
was called the monkey and
00:20:59.20\00:21:04.23
the line that held
him was called the monkey
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line was attached to
his waist and they put the
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strongest man on deck
to hold the other end of
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the line because it
was his job to go out and
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stand on the cartels
of the whale and actually
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attach the lines to hold
that whale still so it get
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pull into the ship and
begin to cut off the fat,
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but it was a
dangerous job because many times
00:21:23.13\00:21:25.26
the seas were rough,
the whale would roar and
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this fellow would
drown, because the fellow that
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was the attack that was
assigned to hold the line
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would just when the
person he just let go.
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But in 1800 about
1832 they decided to chain
00:21:37.66\00:21:43.36
that strongman to the
monkey. His waist to the
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monkey's waist. You
know after that they lost a
00:21:51.06\00:21:54.23
lot less men because
the strong man realize if he
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die, I die, you know,
it's the same way in our
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marriages, if she
dies, you die, if he dies,
00:22:06.06\00:22:15.36
you die. Christians
have to watch their tongue
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not only in your
home, but in your life.
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And so I say again a
Christian argument ought
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to be sweeter then a
non-Christian argument.
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Amen. Amen.
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But my question is
today tonight this evening
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can we argue with
God. Once God will has been
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revealed do you get
any wiggle room is there
00:22:50.73\00:22:53.20
any space in which you
can negotiate with God.
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Once God has
expressed his will, can you
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question that will?
Do you get any kind of
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wiggle room with God,
do you have to do it just
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like God says do it?
Can you, can you play with
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it, can you adjust it,
can you take 9/10 is there
00:23:10.90\00:23:14.00
anything you can do
short of the express will of
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God. Well let me ask
you several questions one.
00:23:16.50\00:23:20.33
Is there anyone
here, who thinks they are
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smarter than God?
We had somebody called
00:23:27.83\00:23:33.06
3ABN sometime ago
with a new wrinkle on
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face and the
response given was Jesus never
00:23:37.20\00:23:41.23
said that, it's not in
the Bible, it's it has,
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Jesus never uttered that,
it's just, it's just not like
00:23:44.43\00:23:46.80
Jesus and I've heard
some what Jesus didn't
00:23:46.80\00:23:48.13
have all the light. Wrong.
00:23:48.13\00:23:52.96
So is there anybody
here thinks that they are
00:23:54.43\00:23:55.70
smarter than God. Amen. Amen.
00:23:55.70\00:24:01.36
Is there anybody here
whose life is so good that
00:24:02.00\00:24:05.73
you couldn't use a
little divine help ever now
00:24:06.30\00:24:09.13
and again. Is
anybody here whose made a big
00:24:09.13\00:24:16.10
mistake in their
life. No, I'm talking about
00:24:16.46\00:24:20.30
stealing a slice of cake
at the potluck or wearing
00:24:20.30\00:24:23.90
stockings with runs
to, I'm talking about a big
00:24:23.90\00:24:26.96
mistake, bad mistake,
bad decision no were it
00:24:26.96\00:24:32.80
cleaned it up, no were
it sanitize it, just bad
00:24:33.20\00:24:36.60
anybody. As you look
at that mistake was that a
00:24:36.96\00:24:42.23
God mistake or a man mistake?
00:24:42.23\00:24:44.26
Man mistake. Is
there anyone here,
00:24:44.26\00:24:48.23
who feels that the
entrance of God into the
00:24:48.23\00:24:50.13
world is case
neutral? In another words,
00:24:50.13\00:24:51.93
world have been
pretty much been the same
00:24:52.46\00:24:53.83
with God or without
him or let's take it to a
00:24:53.83\00:24:58.36
person level. Is there
anybody here, who figures
00:24:58.36\00:25:00.80
you would pretty
much be here tonight doing
00:25:00.80\00:25:02.86
what you are
doing, knowing what your
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knowing, if God had
not been in your life?
00:25:05.53\00:25:07.93
So, then you all agree
that the insertion of God
00:25:11.26\00:25:15.00
into your life has
been a plus positive thing.
00:25:15.00\00:25:19.06
You won't be where
you are, you won't be who
00:25:20.03\00:25:22.23
you are, you won't
be what you are without
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God. Alright now let
me show you something
00:25:25.30\00:25:27.86
very interesting we
are in Second Kings chapter
00:25:27.86\00:25:29.20
20, correct Second
Kings chapter 20, by the way
00:25:29.20\00:25:31.36
this is not the sermon.
Yeah, this is just a little
00:25:31.36\00:25:37.03
Pastor ecclesiological
over dictum, just a little
00:25:37.03\00:25:39.53
ecclesiological
astrica, little gastroenteritis,
00:25:39.53\00:25:44.80
I'm sneezing at you
hoping you to catch up,
00:25:44.80\00:25:46.33
catch you virus. Amen.
00:25:46.33\00:25:49.10
So we are in Second
Kings, Seconds Kings
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chapter 20 verse 1
through 6. Try to go
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through fast times
with what we are familiar
00:25:58.26\00:25:59.90
with. Alright in
those days Hezekiah was sick
00:25:59.90\00:26:02.33
and near death you
got that? And Isaiah the
00:26:02.33\00:26:05.30
prophet son of Amos
went him and said thus
00:26:05.30\00:26:07.76
said the Lord set
your house in order for you
00:26:07.76\00:26:10.13
shall you're gonna
die and not live, now only
00:26:10.13\00:26:14.33
you're gonna die
you're not going to live.
00:26:14.33\00:26:16.20
Then he turned his
face toward the whale the
00:26:18.13\00:26:20.36
wall rather and pray
to Lord saying remember
00:26:20.36\00:26:23.30
oh! Lord I pray how I
walk before you in truth
00:26:23.30\00:26:27.76
with the loyal heart
and I've done what is good
00:26:28.33\00:26:30.83
in your site and
Hezekiah did what?
00:26:30.83\00:26:32.86
Wept bitterly and it
happened before Isaiah had
00:26:33.80\00:26:37.06
gone out of the middle
court that the word of the
00:26:39.83\00:26:40.80
Lord came to him
saying return and tell
00:26:40.80\00:26:42.46
Hezekiah the leader of
my people thus saith the
00:26:42.46\00:26:45.53
Lord God of David
your father, powerful
00:26:45.73\00:26:47.50
statement in his name
in itself and signing with
00:26:47.50\00:26:49.66
his own name. I've
heard your prayer, I've what
00:26:49.86\00:26:52.60
heard your prayer, I've
seen your tears surely I'll
00:26:53.73\00:26:58.83
do what? Gonna heal
you on the third day you
00:26:58.83\00:27:02.00
shall go up to the
house of Lord and I will add
00:27:02.00\00:27:05.80
to your days how
many years 15 years,
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15 years. God gave
Hezekiah his decision,
00:27:10.53\00:27:18.03
Hezekiah didn't like
it, so he said to God.
00:27:19.33\00:27:23.96
Hey God I'm on your
side don't you remember
00:27:25.20\00:27:29.70
I've kept your ways,
I've served your people,
00:27:30.80\00:27:32.86
I've done good the
best I can all of my life,
00:27:33.30\00:27:36.50
cried, turned his face
to the wall wept bitterly
00:27:36.90\00:27:42.13
and God changed
his mind. Amen. Amen.
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God changes his mind
in response to Hezekiah's
00:27:49.96\00:27:55.46
prayer. God gave
him 15 years pretty good
00:27:55.70\00:28:01.56
right, pretty good. He
won, God what he wanted
00:28:01.76\00:28:08.93
or did he. Well, I start
the Bible 3:4 itself let's
00:28:10.90\00:28:16.93
go over just 1 chapter
First Kings 21 and read
00:28:23.86\00:28:24.83
verse 1. Manasseh
was 12 years when he
00:28:24.83\00:28:31.40
became king and
he reined 55 years in
00:28:31.40\00:28:35.30
Jerusalem, his
mother's name was Hepsiba.
00:28:35.30\00:28:38.00
So, when was
Manasseh born alright.
00:28:38.60\00:28:40.63
He became king at the
death of this father he
00:28:42.00\00:28:44.36
was 12 years old and
he became king and we do
00:28:44.36\00:28:46.03
the math he was born
three years into that extra
00:28:49.30\00:28:50.30
15 years you got
that, so three after God
00:28:50.30\00:28:53.03
changed his mind this
child of God's changed
00:28:53.23\00:28:56.83
mind became king. Amen. Amen.
00:28:57.06\00:29:00.76
Alright, he became
king. Now let's jump down
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to verse 9, in verse
9 same chapter. But they
00:29:03.80\00:29:08.33
paid no attention.
We're looking in James,
00:29:08.33\00:29:12.13
and Manasseh seduce
them to do more evil than
00:29:12.56\00:29:16.50
the nations whom the
Lord had destroyed before
00:29:16.50\00:29:19.30
the children of Israel.
This is the child of God's
00:29:19.30\00:29:23.40
changed mind, the
bible is saying he move
00:29:23.70\00:29:27.73
Israel in toward sin
then the people who were
00:29:28.00\00:29:31.10
practicing sin, who
God used Israel to move out
00:29:31.10\00:29:34.86
you're listening to
me. Let's go on little bit
00:29:36.40\00:29:39.60
further verse 10 and
the Lord spoke to his
00:29:39.60\00:29:43.86
servant the prophet
saying because Manasseh
00:29:43.86\00:29:46.93
king of Judah has
done these abominations and
00:29:46.93\00:29:49.63
has acted more
wickedly then all the emirates,
00:29:49.63\00:29:52.36
who were before him
and also has made Judah
00:29:52.90\00:29:55.36
sinned with his idols
therefore thus saith at
00:29:55.36\00:29:58.50
the Lord God of Israel
behold I'm bringing such
00:29:58.50\00:30:01.50
a calamity upon
Jerusalem and Judah that
00:30:01.50\00:30:06.13
whoever hears of it
both his ears will tingling.
00:30:06.13\00:30:09.90
Now there is a
sermon in just that line.
00:30:11.03\00:30:12.50
God is saying because
this king has done this
00:30:14.13\00:30:16.23
thing because he has
turned my people to such
00:30:16.23\00:30:18.56
abomination and such
wickedness I'm going to
00:30:18.90\00:30:21.80
have to bring
something on Jerusalem that they
00:30:22.10\00:30:24.90
were never expect that
when the world is it they
00:30:24.90\00:30:27.63
will know that I'm God. Amen.
00:30:27.63\00:30:30.90
You know what did he
do? Well let's back up.
00:30:32.36\00:30:34.56
It's right there in
verse 21 times gets off,
00:30:36.10\00:30:38.33
let me just tell you,
you can read it for yourself,
00:30:38.33\00:30:40.43
witchcraft, sorcery,
astrology, demonology,
00:30:41.33\00:30:46.06
sex worship, homosexuality,
00:30:46.80\00:30:49.23
temple prostitution,
infanticide, idolatry,
00:30:49.90\00:30:53.70
seduction, sedition,
assassination, terrorism,
00:30:53.90\00:30:58.30
the obituary, cabal and
finally sacrifice of his
00:30:58.80\00:31:02.70
own children. Somehow
in his mind he thought
00:31:02.70\00:31:07.60
that God would be
pleased if he burned his
00:31:07.60\00:31:09.60
own child to death.
And so he tortures his own
00:31:09.60\00:31:13.36
children on the
altar of God as an act of
00:31:13.80\00:31:15.90
worship. He jails
and assassinates all his
00:31:16.23\00:31:21.60
descendents, worships
the devil, murders the
00:31:21.60\00:31:25.23
prophet Isaiah, who
serve the Lord for over 15
00:31:25.23\00:31:28.13
years and what a strange
is that at the end of his
00:31:28.13\00:31:35.43
life in his 70s he gives
his heart to the Lord and
00:31:35.43\00:31:41.86
God forgives him. Amen.
00:31:41.86\00:31:45.40
But during that 55 years
of reining, he set Israel
00:31:47.50\00:31:50.86
on a course from
which they never recover.
00:31:50.86\00:31:53.96
You look at the
destruction of the
00:31:55.36\00:31:56.40
southern kingdom of
Judah. You can trace the
00:31:56.40\00:31:59.40
end of Judah to the
beginning of the rein of
00:31:59.40\00:32:02.46
Manasseh. He got
saved the country was lost.
00:32:02.46\00:32:07.46
You see ladies and
gentleman sometimes we
00:32:08.86\00:32:10.36
can make decisions
and they don't get played
00:32:10.36\00:32:13.23
out in our lifetime.
We don't really suffer the
00:32:13.23\00:32:16.00
consequences of our
decisions, our families
00:32:16.00\00:32:18.86
do, our children do,
our parents do because we
00:32:18.86\00:32:24.86
didn't accept the
will of God. So, the damage
00:32:24.86\00:32:27.83
was done the county
was bankrupt and this king
00:32:27.83\00:32:34.06
Manasseh's this his son
was so evil that his own
00:32:34.06\00:32:39.96
servants took his
life after just two years.
00:32:39.96\00:32:42.53
As they we are not
taken in the other 55 years of
00:32:42.53\00:32:44.50
this. Hezekiah got
what he wanted ladies and
00:32:44.50\00:32:49.00
gentlemen, but he lost
what he had. His own son
00:32:49.00\00:32:54.30
was responsible for
destruction of Judah and
00:32:54.30\00:32:57.60
setting them on a
course from which they never
00:32:57.60\00:32:59.66
recovered you can
look at the seeds of the
00:32:59.66\00:33:02.23
Babylonian
captivities sown in the rein of
00:33:02.46\00:33:06.10
Manasseh. Do you
really think Hezekiah would
00:33:06.10\00:33:10.93
have argued with God
had he known what that
00:33:10.93\00:33:15.33
extra 15 years
would have brought.
00:33:15.33\00:33:18.06
Can you argue with
God? Perhaps why the
00:33:22.70\00:33:26.50
question is should
you argue with God?
00:33:26.50\00:33:30.83
By the way this is not
a sermon. Second Samuel
00:33:33.53\00:33:37.66
chapter 12, got to
go fast Second Samuel
00:33:37.66\00:33:41.86
chapter 12, gonna
pick up 14 to 22 Second
00:33:41.86\00:33:47.20
Samuel 12 verse 14 to
22, going to read fast I'm
00:33:47.20\00:33:52.90
in the new king
James Second Samuel chapter
00:33:52.90\00:33:54.40
12 verses 14 to 22,
However, because by this
00:33:54.40\00:33:57.60
deed you have given
great occasion to the
00:33:58.06\00:33:59.70
enemies of the LORD
to blaspheme, the child
00:33:59.70\00:34:03.30
which is born to
you shall surely die.
00:34:03.76\00:34:06.50
Another ethic from
God. And Nathan departed
00:34:06.70\00:34:09.90
to his house. And
the LORD struck the child
00:34:10.13\00:34:12.40
that Uriah's wife bare
to David, and it became
00:34:12.40\00:34:15.20
ill. David therefore
pleaded with God for the
00:34:15.20\00:34:17.80
child; and David
fasted, and went in, and lay all
00:34:17.80\00:34:20.43
night on the ground.
So, the elders of his house
00:34:20.43\00:34:22.36
arose, and went to him,
to raise him up from the
00:34:22.36\00:34:24.16
ground, but he would
not know what to eat food
00:34:24.16\00:34:26.10
of. He is laying on
the ground, he is fasting
00:34:26.10\00:34:27.76
worried about his
child. Then on the seventh
00:34:28.16\00:34:29.93
day, they came to the
pastor the child died.
00:34:29.93\00:34:31.66
And the servants of
David were afraid to tell
00:34:31.93\00:34:33.73
him that the child
was dead for they said,
00:34:33.73\00:34:36.10
indeed while the
child was alive, we spoke to
00:34:36.30\00:34:38.50
him and he would
not hear our voice.
00:34:38.50\00:34:40.80
How can we tell him
that the child is dead?
00:34:41.60\00:34:43.76
He may do some harm.
He may harm himself or
00:34:44.06\00:34:46.10
he may harm us.
When David saw that his
00:34:46.10\00:34:48.73
servants are
whispering, intelligent fellow,
00:34:48.93\00:34:50.70
David perceived
that the child was dead.
00:34:51.23\00:34:53.10
Therefore David
said to his servants,
00:34:53.86\00:34:55.23
Is the child dead?
And they said, He is dead.
00:34:55.23\00:34:57.63
So, David arose from
the ground, and washed,
00:34:57.63\00:34:59.60
and anointed himself,
and changed his clothes,
00:34:59.60\00:35:01.46
went into the house of the LORD,
00:35:01.46\00:35:02.43
and worshipped, when
he went to his own house
00:35:02.43\00:35:03.93
when requested that
they set food before him
00:35:03.93\00:35:06.30
and he did ate. And
the servant said to him.
00:35:06.30\00:35:08.10
What is this you have
done? You were fasting
00:35:08.46\00:35:10.83
and weep for the
child, while he was alive;
00:35:10.83\00:35:14.36
but when the child
dead, you arouse and eat
00:35:14.66\00:35:17.36
food. Sermon almost
here. When you have a story
00:35:17.36\00:35:26.13
that is so familiar at
least for me I tried to find
00:35:26.13\00:35:29.80
the back story what is
the story behind the story
00:35:29.80\00:35:33.13
and so I wondered
for many years about this
00:35:34.53\00:35:36.53
particular story this
particular story. My mind
00:35:36.53\00:35:41.90
works like this. How
could Bathsheba be so
00:35:41.90\00:35:46.20
close to the palace
that David could see her
00:35:46.20\00:35:50.30
bathing in evening
light. What were she doing
00:35:50.30\00:35:54.40
that close to the
palace you see because in Bible
00:35:54.40\00:35:57.00
times, I known of Bible
history to know that you
00:35:57.00\00:35:59.33
have what is called
higher article zoning.
00:35:59.33\00:36:01.70
In another words
people who live near the
00:36:01.70\00:36:04.60
palace have business
with the palace, just like
00:36:04.60\00:36:08.40
that with us today,
poor people tend to live with
00:36:08.40\00:36:10.66
poor people, middle
class people tend to live
00:36:10.66\00:36:12.73
with middle class
people, rich people tend to
00:36:12.73\00:36:14.46
live with rich
people. When you go to
00:36:14.46\00:36:16.70
Washington DC all of
those buildings around
00:36:16.93\00:36:19.10
the White House are
government buildings.
00:36:19.10\00:36:20.66
Well like the same
way back in Israel's time.
00:36:20.66\00:36:22.43
David is walking
on the roofers palace.
00:36:23.43\00:36:25.06
How did he get to
see Bathsheba in fading
00:36:26.30\00:36:29.66
evening light. She
must have lived near the
00:36:29.66\00:36:32.80
palace, so my mind
says what was she doing
00:36:32.80\00:36:35.76
that close to the
palace. So, I began to do some
00:36:35.76\00:36:37.96
research and as I
researched every page I'm
00:36:37.96\00:36:40.80
turned made David
sin even worst. How could
00:36:41.03\00:36:45.16
David see Bathsheba?
Well, she lived near the
00:36:45.16\00:36:47.43
palace number 1,
Bathsheba's father was a
00:36:47.43\00:36:53.60
fellow by the name of
Eliam route is really fast
00:36:53.60\00:36:55.60
stick with me he
has mentioned in Second
00:36:55.60\00:36:58.03
Samuel chapter 23
verse 34 Eliam is mentioned
00:36:58.03\00:37:01.20
as one of David's
mighty man. He is one of
00:37:01.20\00:37:04.40
David's mighty man
to be a mighty man means
00:37:04.40\00:37:08.03
you have to kill
several people in battle.
00:37:08.03\00:37:09.70
You had to be good
with the sword, you had to
00:37:09.93\00:37:11.50
be honest, strong,
brave, true, and courageous.
00:37:11.50\00:37:14.66
David's mighty men
became his praetorian
00:37:15.90\00:37:18.90
guard, in another
words they were responsible
00:37:18.90\00:37:21.10
for keeping him alive.
So, Bathsheba's dad was
00:37:21.33\00:37:25.30
one of David's 30
hand picked body guards are
00:37:25.30\00:37:29.46
you listening to me?
Alright, so her father
00:37:29.46\00:37:33.23
is one of David's
mighty man. Her husband the
00:37:33.53\00:37:37.36
Bible says backed up
by the spirit of prophecy
00:37:37.36\00:37:39.80
was one of David's
most loyal soldiers.
00:37:40.10\00:37:43.06
He prove that over and
over again because when
00:37:43.33\00:37:44.96
he was brought home
from the front instead of
00:37:44.96\00:37:47.53
going to be with his
wife he said I'm not gonna
00:37:47.53\00:37:49.16
enjoy the commits of
my own home while the
00:37:49.36\00:37:51.30
armies of Israel
sleeping in tents loyal man who
00:37:51.30\00:37:55.10
loved his God. Now
these things are good
00:37:55.10\00:37:58.33
enough, but did I day
say nail in the coffin was
00:37:58.56\00:38:01.93
this one. Her grandfather
was the fellow by the
00:38:01.93\00:38:07.16
name of
Ahithophel you know that name
00:38:10.83\00:38:11.80
Ahithophel.
Ahithophel was David's personal
00:38:11.80\00:38:15.10
counselor. David
didn't make a move without
00:38:15.56\00:38:19.26
talking to Ahithophel
every thing that David
00:38:19.50\00:38:22.76
did, he ran by
Ahithophel. So, Ahithophel had
00:38:22.76\00:38:26.46
to be on 27/7 call he
had to live right next to the
00:38:26.46\00:38:30.23
palace because
anytime David needed him he
00:38:30.50\00:38:33.23
had to be right
there where you had several
00:38:33.23\00:38:35.40
generations living
together so I suspect
00:38:35.60\00:38:37.43
Ahithophel, Eliam,
Isaiah and David and
00:38:37.73\00:38:41.96
Bathsheba all lived
and has together right next
00:38:41.96\00:38:44.80
to the palace. Now,
what did they think of
00:38:44.80\00:38:48.26
Ahithophel? Let's go
to Second Samuel 16:23,
00:38:48.26\00:38:50.50
Second Samuel
chapter 16 verse 23, Second
00:38:51.40\00:38:55.53
Samuel 16:23, shows
a kind of mind set that
00:38:55.53\00:39:01.90
was concerning
Ahithophel. Now the advice of
00:39:01.90\00:39:04.90
Ahithophel, which he
gave in those days was as
00:39:05.13\00:39:08.90
one who inquired
at the auricle of God.
00:39:08.90\00:39:12.16
So, taken to
Ahithophel in the minds of David
00:39:14.16\00:39:17.20
and his co-hosts was
like getting advice from
00:39:17.20\00:39:20.33
God himself.
When Ahithophel spoke
00:39:20.33\00:39:23.36
everybody listened,
are you listening to me.
00:39:24.06\00:39:26.16
Ahithophel was
honored, he was a talk to,
00:39:26.73\00:39:31.06
he was counseled with,
he was right there from
00:39:31.30\00:39:34.30
right there with
David, I rather suspect that
00:39:35.20\00:39:38.46
David didn't ask
his advice about his
00:39:38.46\00:39:40.60
granddaughter. But my
point is Satan couldn't
00:39:40.60\00:39:46.06
have move David to
have an affair with a worst
00:39:46.06\00:39:50.06
person then Bathsheba
couldn't he. It would be
00:39:50.06\00:39:54.60
like George Bush or
Barack Obama trying to
00:39:54.60\00:39:57.73
have an affair with
Nancy Pelosi or Condalisa
00:39:57.73\00:40:03.00
Rice. I mean good
night David did you think
00:40:03.00\00:40:06.13
nobody would notice.
Granted the Bible says
00:40:06.33\00:40:14.00
she was beautiful
very beautiful, but she was
00:40:14.33\00:40:18.56
beautiful and
married and well connected.
00:40:18.80\00:40:24.30
Bathsheba was no
backstreet baby mama
00:40:24.50\00:40:27.26
because of her
standing she was easily one of
00:40:29.46\00:40:31.93
the most high
profile woman in the entire
00:40:31.93\00:40:34.50
kingdom. There was
no way that was going to
00:40:34.50\00:40:36.93
be secret. Satan
couldn't have picked a worst
00:40:36.93\00:40:42.90
person for David to
cast his eyes upon beautiful
00:40:42.90\00:40:46.50
and married and well
connected and you know
00:40:46.50\00:40:51.00
the story. Lust
abuse of power, a one night
00:40:51.00\00:40:57.80
stand, inflagranti
delicto adultery. In James
00:40:57.80\00:41:05.66
chapter 1 verse 15
says then after desire has
00:41:05.66\00:41:09.46
conceived and gives
birth to sin and sin
00:41:09.46\00:41:13.00
wanted to fully grown
gives birth to death and
00:41:13.00\00:41:18.60
because David saw
something he had no right
00:41:18.60\00:41:21.00
to see desired something
he had no right to want
00:41:21.00\00:41:24.86
was given something
he had no right to take a
00:41:25.80\00:41:29.36
life was conceived
that night and so was death.
00:41:29.36\00:41:33.33
And a good man and a
loyal soldier had to die
00:41:35.40\00:41:39.76
to cover up a sin and
the Bible says death bring
00:41:41.36\00:41:46.26
it for death. God said
in Second Samuel chapter
00:41:46.26\00:41:51.56
12 verse 13 David God
has taken away your sin,
00:41:51.56\00:41:56.40
I forgiven you, but
because you dug my name
00:41:58.10\00:42:02.70
made me a laughing stock
00:42:02.70\00:42:03.66
before this people,
your child is going to die.
00:42:07.16\00:42:10.60
And what was
David's response same as
00:42:15.00\00:42:18.30
Hezekiah's
response. He wept, he cry,
00:42:18.30\00:42:22.26
he prayed, he begged
that's normal. When you
00:42:22.63\00:42:27.80
love a child what is not
normal is his response to
00:42:27.80\00:42:34.66
the response. Now is
the sermon. Let's found the
00:42:34.66\00:42:40.96
Second Samuel
chapter 12 verse 19 to 21,
00:42:40.96\00:42:44.73
Second Samuel 12, 19 to 21.
00:42:44.73\00:42:45.70
When David saw his
servants whispering,
00:43:00.30\00:43:02.00
he perceived that the
child was dead therefore
00:43:03.06\00:43:06.16
David said to his
servants, Is the child dead?
00:43:06.16\00:43:08.20
And they said, He is
dead. So, David arose from
00:43:08.20\00:43:11.63
the ground, and
washed, and anointed himself,
00:43:11.63\00:43:13.50
and changed his
clothes, and went into the
00:43:13.50\00:43:15.60
house of the LORD,
and worshipped then he
00:43:15.60\00:43:18.63
went to his own
house, when he requested he
00:43:18.63\00:43:21.30
has had food
before them and ate.
00:43:21.30\00:43:23.16
Then a servant said to
him, what is this that you
00:43:24.46\00:43:27.30
have done? What
are you doing? You have
00:43:27.30\00:43:33.96
fasted and wept for
the child, while he was
00:43:33.96\00:43:37.53
alive; but when the
child dead you arose and ate
00:43:37.53\00:43:44.26
food. What are you
doing? And he said while
00:43:44.26\00:43:52.86
the child was alive,
I fasted and wept for I
00:43:52.86\00:43:58.53
sake who can tell
whether the Lord will be
00:43:58.53\00:44:04.76
gracious to me
that the child may live,
00:44:04.76\00:44:08.96
but now he is
dead why should I fast,
00:44:10.36\00:44:14.50
can I bring him back
again, I shall go to him,
00:44:18.63\00:44:23.36
but he shall not
return to me. David makes an
00:44:25.80\00:44:30.80
incredibly powerful
point. David is saying God
00:44:30.80\00:44:39.00
has shown me his will.
It is now my job to work
00:44:40.66\00:44:49.53
in the will of
God. You see ladies and
00:44:50.50\00:44:55.70
gentlemen our job,
our duty to God and
00:44:55.70\00:45:00.76
ourselves is to accept
and follow God's will and
00:45:00.76\00:45:07.96
way particularly in
these last days. Amen.
00:45:07.96\00:45:11.80
Even if it
makes no sense to you.
00:45:12.90\00:45:17.90
Amen. Our job is to
follow God wherever he lives,
00:45:17.90\00:45:25.46
the secret is trust in
God ladies and gentlemen.
00:45:26.70\00:45:29.06
The secret is surrender.
I dare say no Christian
00:45:30.26\00:45:33.73
will ever be content
until he makes a full
00:45:33.73\00:45:36.86
surrender to God.
You wonder why some
00:45:37.10\00:45:41.30
church members are so
miserable. You got some
00:45:41.30\00:45:47.13
folk, who really love
the Lord it shows all over
00:45:47.13\00:45:49.13
their faces and you
got some folk, who are just
00:45:49.13\00:45:52.46
biting time they are
miserable. They enters
00:45:53.00\00:45:57.60
every Sabbath
miserable. You know what I mean?
00:45:57.60\00:46:02.03
How you doing? Oh! Jesus.
00:46:03.40\00:46:06.70
Miserable, no blessings,
no joy, singing out of
00:46:11.10\00:46:15.93
the Saturday night, I hate focus
00:46:15.93\00:46:17.23
sing out this Saturday.
00:46:17.23\00:46:18.20
Miserable,
miserable why because you are
00:46:23.33\00:46:26.60
trying to whole valid
passports in two countries
00:46:26.60\00:46:28.90
cannot be done you got
to surrender one or you
00:46:32.70\00:46:36.20
gonna be miserable, the
worst christian I've ever
00:46:36.20\00:46:38.76
seen are those who
trying to serve the Lord and
00:46:38.76\00:46:40.80
said cannot be
done. You got to make full
00:46:40.80\00:46:45.66
surrender, you got to
trust him. no back seat
00:46:45.96\00:46:52.13
driving. Let Jesus
get behind a will then you
00:46:52.13\00:46:58.13
want to tell him how
to drive, oh! Jesus make a
00:46:58.13\00:47:01.30
left, Jesus slow down,
oh! little fast pass him
00:47:01.30\00:47:05.80
Jesus. Can we take a
smoother row with him,
00:47:05.80\00:47:13.03
have the shocks
on his car to bumping
00:47:13.03\00:47:15.33
and a crux the nexus of
the Christian experience
00:47:19.70\00:47:22.66
is trusting in God
regardless availability.
00:47:24.03\00:47:30.63
Not questioning him,
but once you knows the
00:47:32.33\00:47:35.76
will of God to
follow unhesitatingly and
00:47:35.76\00:47:39.40
unquestioningly. And
in his last days of secret
00:47:39.63\00:47:44.90
of our success is going
to be trusting in God for
00:47:44.90\00:47:49.93
our very lie. In
fact your life done your
00:47:49.93\00:47:53.73
Christian life
doesn't really begin till you
00:47:53.73\00:47:56.70
trust in Jesus. Amen.
00:47:56.70\00:47:58.70
You can't argue with
God for several reasons.
00:48:00.40\00:48:03.26
One you can't see tomorrow.
00:48:04.50\00:48:07.20
God knows what is
gonna happen tomorrow you
00:48:11.30\00:48:15.73
don't so you can't
argue with God because you
00:48:16.20\00:48:20.93
can't see tomorrow let
alone control tomorrow.
00:48:20.93\00:48:24.26
Secondly you can
argue with God because you
00:48:27.43\00:48:31.76
cannot determine the
long range consequences
00:48:32.06\00:48:35.26
of your action.
Once the young Pastor
00:48:35.50\00:48:42.23
Halloween bought a
Datsun 280Z same as I had
00:48:43.10\00:48:48.66
in my first
evangelistic crusade feeling
00:48:48.66\00:48:50.63
particularly close to
the Lord. I said while I'm
00:48:50.63\00:48:56.80
single and a young
Pastor I'm get me a sports
00:48:56.80\00:48:58.76
car so I bought one
blue man I think with fast
00:48:58.76\00:49:02.76
$1200 in tickets, paid
$700 a month for shows.
00:49:03.93\00:49:17.50
Say you gonna go
with time you cannot
00:49:20.76\00:49:26.46
determine the
consequences of your actions.
00:49:26.46\00:49:29.30
All Hezekiah did he
just wanted to live,
00:49:29.76\00:49:32.83
he didn't know he
was gonna aside the worst
00:49:33.60\00:49:35.70
king in a history of
that country. David saw little
00:49:35.70\00:49:42.43
flesh and no idea
that was going to lead to
00:49:42.66\00:49:47.20
adultery, murder,
rape, incest, years later his
00:49:47.20\00:49:51.73
son Ammon rapes his
daughter Tamar. David
00:49:51.73\00:49:54.00
can't say a thing
because he killed a man to get
00:49:54.00\00:49:56.06
his wife and so since
he doesn't do anything
00:49:56.06\00:49:59.76
Absalom murders
Amnon, Joab murders
00:50:01.60\00:50:03.66
Absalom, Ahithophel
plots against David then
00:50:03.86\00:50:06.36
kills himself all
because David couldn't control
00:50:06.36\00:50:09.50
himself. You don't
know the long range action
00:50:09.50\00:50:12.53
consequences of
your actions. How can we
00:50:13.06\00:50:16.03
think to argue with
God. You don't know what
00:50:16.03\00:50:19.80
God knows. You know
my father's old school
00:50:19.80\00:50:22.60
just before he would
get the belt out he would
00:50:22.60\00:50:25.40
say, boy you don't know nothing.
00:50:25.40\00:50:28.20
And I could hear God
say that to us sometimes
00:50:32.53\00:50:34.43
you don't know
nothing, you don't know what I
00:50:35.70\00:50:38.66
know. You can't see
what I see, so how can you
00:50:38.66\00:50:41.93
argue with me. I
know what's best for you,
00:50:41.93\00:50:45.33
you see true
religion comes ladies and
00:50:45.33\00:50:47.43
gentlemen when you
are willing to trust God
00:50:47.43\00:50:49.33
with your money,
your time, your life,
00:50:49.33\00:50:51.26
your wife, your
health, your car, your home
00:50:51.26\00:50:53.53
everything you have
and once God has given
00:50:54.86\00:50:59.73
you his will for you
to stand there and say God
00:50:59.73\00:51:03.40
would ever you want
that's what I gave you.
00:51:03.40\00:51:05.46
Remember that's at the
very beginning, the very
00:51:07.70\00:51:09.83
beginning when you
have a disagreement what's
00:51:09.83\00:51:13.50
your job? What's
your job? To totally
00:51:13.50\00:51:18.80
understand the other
person's point of view
00:51:19.00\00:51:22.80
didn't I said that as
the premise for everything I
00:51:23.43\00:51:25.66
have said. Before
you disagree with God you
00:51:25.66\00:51:30.20
got to totally
understand God's point of view
00:51:30.20\00:51:32.90
and when you totally
familiarize yourself with
00:51:34.36\00:51:36.93
God's point of
view I guarantee you,
00:51:37.16\00:51:39.83
you'll be on God's side. Amen.
00:51:39.83\00:51:42.56
The reason we have
arguments with God is
00:51:44.26\00:51:47.56
because we haven't
taken enough time to
00:51:47.56\00:51:50.10
familiarize ourselves
with God's point of view,
00:51:50.10\00:51:53.66
heaven point of view.
I know what I think my
00:51:54.16\00:52:01.63
job is to find out
what is God think and I dare
00:52:01.63\00:52:05.20
say when you find out
what God thinks you'll
00:52:05.20\00:52:06.80
think like God
thinks. Like my dear departed
00:52:06.80\00:52:12.76
dad boy you don't
know nothing, I got to know
00:52:12.76\00:52:18.23
and you can argue
with God until you know
00:52:19.76\00:52:22.53
what God knows and
when you know what God
00:52:22.53\00:52:25.70
knows you won't
argue with God. Isaiah 55:8
00:52:25.70\00:52:31.16
my thoughts are not
your thoughts, my way is
00:52:31.66\00:52:33.10
not your ways,
higher is yours or mines.
00:52:33.10\00:52:34.80
First Corinthians
13:12 we see through a glass
00:52:36.90\00:52:39.20
darkly. I note you
looking that, God knows see
00:52:39.40\00:52:45.33
you got to follow.
Ladies and gentlemen in
00:52:45.33\00:52:49.10
these last days there
is nothing you can trust,
00:52:49.10\00:52:53.33
nothing you can't
even trust yourself, can't,
00:52:55.50\00:53:00.36
you got to trust Jesus. Amen.
00:53:02.20\00:53:04.26
And your trust in
Jesus will be tested,
00:53:04.90\00:53:08.06
your metal will be
tested everything about you
00:53:08.06\00:53:11.96
will be tested you
will go through fiery trial.
00:53:11.96\00:53:14.70
The Bible says think
it not strange concerning
00:53:14.96\00:53:19.73
the fiery trial, which
is to try you. So, you're
00:53:19.73\00:53:23.60
gonna have to lean on
Jesus like never before
00:53:23.60\00:53:26.50
and even when it
doesn't make sense. You know
00:53:27.96\00:53:29.90
really it the truth is
this you never know Jesus is
00:53:29.90\00:53:33.40
all you need until
Jesus is all you got and some
00:53:33.40\00:53:39.36
of us are gonna to
get strip down, strip down
00:53:39.36\00:53:43.33
and all you going to
have is Jesus and at that
00:53:44.00\00:53:47.10
point you will
realize all I ever needed was
00:53:47.10\00:53:51.16
Jesus, Amen. All I
ever wanted was Jesus.
00:53:51.16\00:53:57.43
Ladies and gentlemen,
I guarantee it's gonna
00:53:59.00\00:54:00.46
come, we can't
argue with God. Amen.
00:54:00.46\00:54:04.70
How dare we argue
with God. In fact,
00:54:04.70\00:54:08.36
our salvation hinges
upon our total surrender
00:54:08.36\00:54:13.56
and trust to God. The
question is never been
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can we trust God, you
kidding? The question is
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can God trust us,
can God lean on us?
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Will we be there when
God's needs us in a few
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hours many of us will
be going home, we'll get
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in our cars, buses,
motor homes and we'll ahead
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back to various
places and God is looking for
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you to carry his
light wherever you go can he
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trust you? Are you
finished arguing with him?
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When God calls you
gonna say here am I send
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me, take my money,
take my time, take my
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talent, take my all
and use it, I'm not gonna
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argue with you
anymore, I'm gonna serve you.
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Someone said to me
just a couple of weeks ago,
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I've got some
money in the bank and I'm
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wondering if I should
give it to 3ABN and I'm
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waiting for God to tell
me. I said I'm the voice
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of God give it up.
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And I told him don't
argue with God you do
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what God says to you.
Well, God is making that
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same call to you could
be your money, could be
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your time, could be
your talent, could be all of
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above, but God is
saying stop arguing,
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start following, start
surrendering and you'll be
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the happiest
people in the world.
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Amen. The question is
not can you argue with God,
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yeah you can. Question
is should you argue with
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God, no you
shouldn't because God knows
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yesterday, today and
forever and his got that
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waiting for you.
Amen. Amen. Shall we pray.
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Heavenly father we
call upon you now to keep
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us, it's too late to
argue with you, too late
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to remonstrate with
you, too late to dicker and
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negotiate with you. We
are sitting here with our
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heads bowed and eyes
closed saying Lord we
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surrender all to you.
Take what we have and use
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it for service. Bless
each of our lives and this
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ministry that you have erected.
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